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Chris Wright

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All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

Well, happy to do that, and I just want to say again thanks to the All In for pulling together this amazing team.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

Yes.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

And Hill and Valley, too.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

Thanks, Christian.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

When we look back on this day, when historians look back on the challenge of our times, which is like the summit called winning the AI arms race, I think one of the things they're going to conclude is that the reason why the United States won the AI arms race was because of President Trump.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

And I'm not saying that as a political statement.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

I'm saying that the policy of the Trump administration is more energy fast and an understanding of how important it is for the AI arms race.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

And so with that, as you've just outlined, we've got a huge challenge ahead of us.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

You know, China is deploying everything.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

I mean, they added 94 gigawatts of coal last year, one gigawatt to Denver.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

Over 60% of their power is still coming from coal.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

They're just pouring

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

pouring that on.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

The Wall Street Journal ran an article yesterday talking about what a great job that China was doing with EVs and with solar.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

I read the whole article.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

They never mentioned coal.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

It's two-thirds of their electrical power.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

And so then, just by definition, I mean two-thirds of the EV cars in China should have a bumper sticker that says powered by coal.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

So they are, this is a, we're in a race of our lifetime.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

They're also doing nuclear, they're doing hydro, they've got no permitting issues.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

I mean, they build a hydro dam, it'd be like the equivalent of us putting a dam on the Grand Canyon, what they're doing on the Yangtze.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

So we've got real competition.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

We can lead in technology, but we haven't been leading on electric production.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

So the National Energy Dominance Council, part of the job that Chris and I have, is helping through cut red tape, produce more electricity, whether it's hydro, geothermal, nuclear,

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

And of course, LNG, natural gas, is a key part of this.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

And then bringing back coal and making sure that we stop shutting down base load in America has been a key part of what we're doing.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

I was going to say, I mean, the one thing that's already happened, if people are interested in nuclear, which doesn't help us in the near-term race that we're in.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

The near-term race, as Chris said, is going to be won by us getting natural gas power online and stop shutting stuff down.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

But President Trump signed four executive orders on nuclear about six weeks ago.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

And there's been a flood of capital, fresh capital coming in.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

We've got a bunch of venture capital going towards nuclear.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

you know over over close to a dozen different uh smr startups uh there's a lot of interest going on in that field chris's work with the national labs redirecting that i mean nuclear's got a future but it's it's not the thing we need in the next 24 months right now that's got to keep moving ahead president trump's executive board has helped that but we've got to get focused on getting more power right now

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

Well, I wouldn't say if, again, back to the immediate need right now, we need more power and we need power for factories that are producing AI, like using Jensen's word.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

which I think everybody should stop saying data centers, because a data center, if you have a data center the way America thinks about them, you're processing a shopping claim, it helps the seller, the buyer, and maybe a third party.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

If you're processing a healthcare claim, it's a provider, a payer, and a patient.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

But in AI, it's general purpose technology.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

We're actually literally manufacturing every day over and over more intelligence.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

And so that's different.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

It's not data centers.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

It's AI factories.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

And we've taken a look at NEDC at the supply chain.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

If any of you are trying to build an AI factory and you need power and you haven't talked to Chris and I and our team inside the White House at the National Energy Dominance Council,

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

You need to come and talk to us, because we're mapping out, talking to everybody in the industry.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

We're a neutral party, but we're saying, here's where the shortages are.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

We've talked about things like the Defense Production Act.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

We've talked to companies that are producing turbines.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

Everything we're doing, we say, hey, you've got to amp up, because some of these people are sleeping on the sidelines, and they don't think there's going to be real demand.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

And we're saying, if anything, the demand is underestimated.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

So we're trying to jack up the supply into the supply chain.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

But please contact us.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

We're there.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

Think of us not, we're not a group that writes papers.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

We're a group that helps people.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

We help people build projects.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

That's what we do.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

AI factory.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

AI factory.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

Well, it's a fabulous question, Christian, and I'm so bullish on the U.S.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

economy, because as our friend Scott, who was just on here before us, but I mean, you take the combination of lower taxes,

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

dramatically lower regulation, accelerated permitting time.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

Just accelerating permitting, there could be a trillion to a trillion and a half dollars stuck in this two to four year federal government permitting thing.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

We accelerate that expenditure of capital.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

The on-shoring, the greatest economic developer in history bringing foreign direct investment back to the United States, President Trump with these tariffs,

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

What did we announce in Pittsburgh?

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

$15 trillion.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

That's coming back.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

So with AI, software has always been the one thing that's extended human capability more than any other in our lifetimes.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

And now with AI, it's just a massive multiplier of that.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

But to make the factory happen, we're going to have an explosion in jobs in the trades.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

I mean, you're going to be able to skip college, go directly into develop a trade.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

You don't make $150,000, $120,000 to start in my home state.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

And again, and for people that are spending money on site selection, I'll tell you one thing.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

You want to build it faster, go to where the stranded gas is.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

Build your power plant there.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

Build the AI factory next to it.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

You don't have to permit a transmission line.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

You don't have to permit a pipeline.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

Those are the two things.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

Linear infrastructure has been weaponized by the people that are opposed to energy development in this country.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

They weaponized the blocking of those things.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

I say pipeline.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

You say protest.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

100%.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

So go to the same place and co-locate.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

President Trump himself has said in speeches, we're going to let you operate off the grid.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

We can build all this stuff and keep rates for electricity for small businesses, consumers down because we've got to add to the supply.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

But, you know, which if you're going to go to where the gas is, there's sweet places to go.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

The Marcellus, the Permian or the Bakken.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

And you can save tens of millions hiring site selection guys.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

Go find the people with stranded gas and get going.

The Ben Shapiro Show
Ep. 2171 - Who Shot JFK?

What you're going to see is tariffs on U.S. exports come down across the world. President Trump's message has been free and fair trade, reciprocal trade. I'm talking to foreign leaders all the time, and they want two key things. They want to buy more American products. I'm talking to them mostly about energy. And they want to invest more dollars in the United States.

The Ben Shapiro Show
Ep. 2171 - Who Shot JFK?

What you're going to see is tariffs on U.S. exports come down across the world. President Trump's message has been free and fair trade, reciprocal trade. I'm talking to foreign leaders all the time, and they want two key things. They want to buy more American products. I'm talking to them mostly about energy. And they want to invest more dollars in the United States.

The Ben Shapiro Show
Ep. 2171 - Who Shot JFK?

What you're going to see is tariffs on U.S. exports come down across the world. President Trump's message has been free and fair trade, reciprocal trade. I'm talking to foreign leaders all the time, and they want two key things. They want to buy more American products. I'm talking to them mostly about energy. And they want to invest more dollars in the United States.

VINCE
DOGE Uncovers More Corruption Than We Ever Thought Possible (Ep. 2418)

People who are driving policy, the media, politicians, they've never bothered to learn anything about climate change. And they don't seem to appreciate at all that the cost and affordability of energy... is simply intimate to human well-being. It always has, everywhere and always.

VINCE
DOGE Uncovers More Corruption Than We Ever Thought Possible (Ep. 2418)

People who are driving policy, the media, politicians, they've never bothered to learn anything about climate change. And they don't seem to appreciate at all that the cost and affordability of energy... is simply intimate to human well-being. It always has, everywhere and always.

VINCE
DOGE Uncovers More Corruption Than We Ever Thought Possible (Ep. 2418)

People who are driving policy, the media, politicians, they've never bothered to learn anything about climate change. And they don't seem to appreciate at all that the cost and affordability of energy... is simply intimate to human well-being. It always has, everywhere and always.

VINCE
DOGE Uncovers More Corruption Than We Ever Thought Possible (Ep. 2418)

So these two ignorances about the importance of energy and about real facts about climate change are driving just a massively destructive movement. Not just destructive to the economic well-being of humans, But I speak in schools. It's turning people away from science.

VINCE
DOGE Uncovers More Corruption Than We Ever Thought Possible (Ep. 2418)

So these two ignorances about the importance of energy and about real facts about climate change are driving just a massively destructive movement. Not just destructive to the economic well-being of humans, But I speak in schools. It's turning people away from science.

VINCE
DOGE Uncovers More Corruption Than We Ever Thought Possible (Ep. 2418)

So these two ignorances about the importance of energy and about real facts about climate change are driving just a massively destructive movement. Not just destructive to the economic well-being of humans, But I speak in schools. It's turning people away from science.

VINCE
DOGE Uncovers More Corruption Than We Ever Thought Possible (Ep. 2418)

And I mean science, this process of questioning and challenging, not the science, this sort of top-down mandates that justify what people want to do anyway.

VINCE
DOGE Uncovers More Corruption Than We Ever Thought Possible (Ep. 2418)

And I mean science, this process of questioning and challenging, not the science, this sort of top-down mandates that justify what people want to do anyway.

VINCE
DOGE Uncovers More Corruption Than We Ever Thought Possible (Ep. 2418)

And I mean science, this process of questioning and challenging, not the science, this sort of top-down mandates that justify what people want to do anyway.