Chris Hall
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Davini and Tyler were asleep in the back seat. For some reason, Tyler always sits behind his mom, and Davini always sits behind me. They've done it their whole life. I don't know why. We were on the toll road headed north. We could see the lights of San Diego.
Davini and Tyler were asleep in the back seat. For some reason, Tyler always sits behind his mom, and Davini always sits behind me. They've done it their whole life. I don't know why. We were on the toll road headed north. We could see the lights of San Diego.
Once they realized there was no race car on the trailer, left the trailer there and took us further up in the mountains.
Once they realized there was no race car on the trailer, left the trailer there and took us further up in the mountains.
The police car turned on their lights, the red and blue lights and siren, and I looked back and I said, crap, Deb, we're getting pulled over.
The police car turned on their lights, the red and blue lights and siren, and I looked back and I said, crap, Deb, we're getting pulled over.
Davinia and I got over there as close to them as we could. As Davinia got down in the ditch, I got down and tried to get on top of her as best I could to cover her body with my body.
Davinia and I got over there as close to them as we could. As Davinia got down in the ditch, I got down and tried to get on top of her as best I could to cover her body with my body.
It seemed like a long time and nothing had happened. And it seemed like it got real quiet.
It seemed like a long time and nothing had happened. And it seemed like it got real quiet.
Deborah kept saying, keep your head down, keep your head down. And I looked around, and everybody was gone. And the truck was gone. The four of us gave each other a big hug, and I remember Debra and I telling the kids, we're sorry, we're gonna get you out of here.
Deborah kept saying, keep your head down, keep your head down. And I looked around, and everybody was gone. And the truck was gone. The four of us gave each other a big hug, and I remember Debra and I telling the kids, we're sorry, we're gonna get you out of here.
We had no cell phone, no nothing, and we had no clue where we were, no sense of north, south, east, or west, no sense of direction because of the fog.
We had no cell phone, no nothing, and we had no clue where we were, no sense of north, south, east, or west, no sense of direction because of the fog.
And I said, we got to sit and listen for the ocean. I knew as long as we could find the ocean, we could find our way to help and find our way home. And we started walking.
And I said, we got to sit and listen for the ocean. I knew as long as we could find the ocean, we could find our way to help and find our way home. And we started walking.
Deb said, there's a house. I see a light. And she wanted to start walking towards the house, and I didn't think it was a good idea.
Deb said, there's a house. I see a light. And she wanted to start walking towards the house, and I didn't think it was a good idea.
Just getting reports of shots fired at Santana High School in Santee.
Just getting reports of shots fired at Santana High School in Santee.
And he put a gun straight to my forehead right here. Told me to get back in the truck.
And he put a gun straight to my forehead right here. Told me to get back in the truck.
She went from a little girl that was innocent to seemed like she grew up to an adult right then and there.
She went from a little girl that was innocent to seemed like she grew up to an adult right then and there.
We heard some dogs barking. And Deb said, there's dogs, there's a house, I see a light.
We heard some dogs barking. And Deb said, there's dogs, there's a house, I see a light.
Tyler absolutely stood up and shared the burden. He definitely looked after and watched out for his mom and his sister as best he could. We crossed the toll road, not realizing it was the toll road. Got into this housing area, and we yelled for help, and we rang bells, and we banged on doors, and nobody would help us.
Tyler absolutely stood up and shared the burden. He definitely looked after and watched out for his mom and his sister as best he could. We crossed the toll road, not realizing it was the toll road. Got into this housing area, and we yelled for help, and we rang bells, and we banged on doors, and nobody would help us.
When we walked up to the first customs agent, we told him who we were, what had happened to us.
When we walked up to the first customs agent, we told him who we were, what had happened to us.
And we said, we don't have any ID or anything. We need a bathroom. We need a phone. We need water. And said, there's a bathroom and a phone at McDonald's across the street. He didn't seem to really care.
And we said, we don't have any ID or anything. We need a bathroom. We need a phone. We need water. And said, there's a bathroom and a phone at McDonald's across the street. He didn't seem to really care.
I looked in the mirror and could see probably eight, 10 guys.
I looked in the mirror and could see probably eight, 10 guys.
We left. They let us leave. We went to the McDonald's like they told us. We didn't know where else to go.
We left. They let us leave. We went to the McDonald's like they told us. We didn't know where else to go.
They were all dressed the same in a kind of a military type.
They were all dressed the same in a kind of a military type.
I remember getting home, just being thrilled to be home, happy to be around our dogs, but still worried because they had our driver's license, they had our address, they knew who we were.
I remember getting home, just being thrilled to be home, happy to be around our dogs, but still worried because they had our driver's license, they had our address, they knew who we were.
Sleep? We don't sleep anymore. A couple hours here, a couple hours there. We don't get a peaceful night's sleep.
Sleep? We don't sleep anymore. A couple hours here, a couple hours there. We don't get a peaceful night's sleep.
Tyler kind of went into his own little locked himself away kind of thing.
Tyler kind of went into his own little locked himself away kind of thing.
I felt responsible for bringing him to Mexico and I felt like I put him in that situation. Even if I had one gun, there were still eight to ten guys with guns. No matter how I look at this in different directions, the outcome would have been way worse than what it was.
I felt responsible for bringing him to Mexico and I felt like I put him in that situation. Even if I had one gun, there were still eight to ten guys with guns. No matter how I look at this in different directions, the outcome would have been way worse than what it was.
I guess what I did was right because my family's alive and nobody was hurt. but in my mind it sure seems like I could have done something different.
I guess what I did was right because my family's alive and nobody was hurt. but in my mind it sure seems like I could have done something different.
We bought a boat. We all go to the river together. That's our new place to go, I guess. We just had our 25th anniversary. We took our kids to Hawaii for their first time.
We bought a boat. We all go to the river together. That's our new place to go, I guess. We just had our 25th anniversary. We took our kids to Hawaii for their first time.
Even Tyler still talks about the happy times. Still talks about his favorite burrito shop.
Even Tyler still talks about the happy times. Still talks about his favorite burrito shop.
And know we've lost Mexico and we won't go back and just leave it at that.
And know we've lost Mexico and we won't go back and just leave it at that.
There was nobody to turn to, nobody to call, nowhere to go.
There was nobody to turn to, nobody to call, nowhere to go.
This took place in November of 2007. We went down for the Baja 1000. It was Tyler's, it was gonna be his 16th birthday.
This took place in November of 2007. We went down for the Baja 1000. It was Tyler's, it was gonna be his 16th birthday.
We would just go and have fun. You didn't have to care. You went down and relaxed on the beach. It was always warm.
We would just go and have fun. You didn't have to care. You went down and relaxed on the beach. It was always warm.
We were pulling big travel trailers so we weren't driving nearly as fast as anybody else.
We were pulling big travel trailers so we weren't driving nearly as fast as anybody else.
I was tired. I was like, you know what? We're not that far from home. We're just going to keep going home.
I was tired. I was like, you know what? We're not that far from home. We're just going to keep going home.
Deborah had to sit up and pretend like everything was OK. I remember her crying and trying to reach back and hold Tyler's hand.
Deborah had to sit up and pretend like everything was OK. I remember her crying and trying to reach back and hold Tyler's hand.
We begged him, just please let our kids go. Just let the kids go. Debra and I didn't care what happened to us.
We begged him, just please let our kids go. Just let the kids go. Debra and I didn't care what happened to us.
They just laughed at us and said, shut up about your kids.
They just laughed at us and said, shut up about your kids.
And then he started driving and the cars followed us.
And then he started driving and the cars followed us.
I was absolutely worried about them being raped. Don't think I've ever felt that helpless in my life.
I was absolutely worried about them being raped. Don't think I've ever felt that helpless in my life.
My only thought was to tell her I'm so sorry and to try and protect her as best I could.
My only thought was to tell her I'm so sorry and to try and protect her as best I could.
Davini and Tyler were asleep in the back seat. For some reason, Tyler always sits behind his mom, and Davini always sits behind me. They've done it their whole life. I don't know why. We were on the toll road headed north. We could see the lights of San Diego.
Once they realized there was no race car on the trailer, left the trailer there and took us further up in the mountains.
The police car turned on their lights, the red and blue lights and siren, and I looked back and I said, crap, Deb, we're getting pulled over.
Davinia and I got over there as close to them as we could. As Davinia got down in the ditch, I got down and tried to get on top of her as best I could to cover her body with my body.
It seemed like a long time and nothing had happened. And it seemed like it got real quiet.
Deborah kept saying, keep your head down, keep your head down. And I looked around, and everybody was gone. And the truck was gone. The four of us gave each other a big hug, and I remember Debra and I telling the kids, we're sorry, we're gonna get you out of here.
We had no cell phone, no nothing, and we had no clue where we were, no sense of north, south, east, or west, no sense of direction because of the fog.
And I said, we got to sit and listen for the ocean. I knew as long as we could find the ocean, we could find our way to help and find our way home. And we started walking.
Deb said, there's a house. I see a light. And she wanted to start walking towards the house, and I didn't think it was a good idea.
Just getting reports of shots fired at Santana High School in Santee.
And he put a gun straight to my forehead right here. Told me to get back in the truck.
She went from a little girl that was innocent to seemed like she grew up to an adult right then and there.
We heard some dogs barking. And Deb said, there's dogs, there's a house, I see a light.
Tyler absolutely stood up and shared the burden. He definitely looked after and watched out for his mom and his sister as best he could. We crossed the toll road, not realizing it was the toll road. Got into this housing area, and we yelled for help, and we rang bells, and we banged on doors, and nobody would help us.
When we walked up to the first customs agent, we told him who we were, what had happened to us.
And we said, we don't have any ID or anything. We need a bathroom. We need a phone. We need water. And said, there's a bathroom and a phone at McDonald's across the street. He didn't seem to really care.
I looked in the mirror and could see probably eight, 10 guys.
We left. They let us leave. We went to the McDonald's like they told us. We didn't know where else to go.
They were all dressed the same in a kind of a military type.
I remember getting home, just being thrilled to be home, happy to be around our dogs, but still worried because they had our driver's license, they had our address, they knew who we were.
Sleep? We don't sleep anymore. A couple hours here, a couple hours there. We don't get a peaceful night's sleep.
Tyler kind of went into his own little locked himself away kind of thing.
I felt responsible for bringing him to Mexico and I felt like I put him in that situation. Even if I had one gun, there were still eight to ten guys with guns. No matter how I look at this in different directions, the outcome would have been way worse than what it was.
I guess what I did was right because my family's alive and nobody was hurt. but in my mind it sure seems like I could have done something different.
We bought a boat. We all go to the river together. That's our new place to go, I guess. We just had our 25th anniversary. We took our kids to Hawaii for their first time.
Even Tyler still talks about the happy times. Still talks about his favorite burrito shop.
And know we've lost Mexico and we won't go back and just leave it at that.
There was nobody to turn to, nobody to call, nowhere to go.
This took place in November of 2007. We went down for the Baja 1000. It was Tyler's, it was gonna be his 16th birthday.
We would just go and have fun. You didn't have to care. You went down and relaxed on the beach. It was always warm.
We were pulling big travel trailers so we weren't driving nearly as fast as anybody else.
I was tired. I was like, you know what? We're not that far from home. We're just going to keep going home.
Deborah had to sit up and pretend like everything was OK. I remember her crying and trying to reach back and hold Tyler's hand.
We begged him, just please let our kids go. Just let the kids go. Debra and I didn't care what happened to us.
They just laughed at us and said, shut up about your kids.
And then he started driving and the cars followed us.
I was absolutely worried about them being raped. Don't think I've ever felt that helpless in my life.
My only thought was to tell her I'm so sorry and to try and protect her as best I could.
So during the day, they killed the bacteria faster. But if we removed components of the neutrophil's circadian clock... That removed their ability to kill the bacteria faster because the neutrophils didn't know that it was daytime.
So during the day, they killed the bacteria faster. But if we removed components of the neutrophil's circadian clock... That removed their ability to kill the bacteria faster because the neutrophils didn't know that it was daytime.
On NPR's ThruLine. Witnesses were ending up dead.
On NPR's ThruLine. Witnesses were ending up dead.
So during the day, they killed the bacteria faster. But if we removed components of the neutrophil's circadian clock... That removed their ability to kill the bacteria faster because the neutrophils didn't know that it was daytime.
On NPR's ThruLine. Witnesses were ending up dead.