Chris Cuomo
Appearances
PBD Podcast
Trump Gaza, USAID Waste EXPOSED, FCC Investigates George Soros w/ Chris Cuomo | PBD Podcast | Ep. 545
But it's also not car and driver. It's the New York Times, and there is a conflict.
PBD Podcast
Trump Gaza, USAID Waste EXPOSED, FCC Investigates George Soros w/ Chris Cuomo | PBD Podcast | Ep. 545
Car and Driver magazine, who cares if you subscribe? There's no agenda. You subscribe to the New York Times, there's a conflict.
PBD Podcast
Trump Gaza, USAID Waste EXPOSED, FCC Investigates George Soros w/ Chris Cuomo | PBD Podcast | Ep. 545
And you know which party cares about that more?
PBD Podcast
Trump Gaza, USAID Waste EXPOSED, FCC Investigates George Soros w/ Chris Cuomo | PBD Podcast | Ep. 545
Neither. Neither give a damn. They never cut spending on their watch.
PBD Podcast
Trump Gaza, USAID Waste EXPOSED, FCC Investigates George Soros w/ Chris Cuomo | PBD Podcast | Ep. 545
You hope they do that? I hope they keep doing it. I have a feeling. Why would they stop doing it? Because something else will become more important. And there'll be the Iran nuclear deal. It'll be what's happening in Ukraine. And then people stop covering it. They stop paying attention. You stop hearing about it.
PBD Podcast
Trump Gaza, USAID Waste EXPOSED, FCC Investigates George Soros w/ Chris Cuomo | PBD Podcast | Ep. 545
It's not true about Stiller or Penn. Penn has an organization that he started called CORE. which is kind of like the Red Cross that does amazing work in Haiti and other distressed areas. It is a relief organization. That's what the money was tied to. And they have done a lot of work with displaced people in Poland and in Ukraine. So these guys aren't the problem, photo ops aside.
PBD Podcast
Trump Gaza, USAID Waste EXPOSED, FCC Investigates George Soros w/ Chris Cuomo | PBD Podcast | Ep. 545
So that's the problem. That's the problem with the conflict is that – You can have problems with headlines. I mean, headlines are all disingenuous, right? I mean, they almost never reflect what you'll find halfway down a story. That's the problem with balance and media and judging your outlets.
PBD Podcast
Trump Gaza, USAID Waste EXPOSED, FCC Investigates George Soros w/ Chris Cuomo | PBD Podcast | Ep. 545
And now they create it in a conflict, and that's what they have to deal with because now the suspicion has a reasonable basis. Nobody has any problem with cutting waste, fraud, and abuse. Literally, the acronym WFA is part of everybody's political science handbook in messaging. They just say WFA, and you know they mean waste, fraud, and abuse. It just never really happens.
PBD Podcast
Trump Gaza, USAID Waste EXPOSED, FCC Investigates George Soros w/ Chris Cuomo | PBD Podcast | Ep. 545
And I have no problem with this list of things. If you don't like them, that's fine. But the idea that this is the big nut Everything that they've listed so far from USAID is less than half a percent of its budget. So that's why Marco Rubio came out and said, hey, USAID matters. There's certain things that equate with soft power. But, you know, even this time, he wants more control over this.
PBD Podcast
Trump Gaza, USAID Waste EXPOSED, FCC Investigates George Soros w/ Chris Cuomo | PBD Podcast | Ep. 545
He doesn't want Elon to just shut USAID because as secretary of state, you want the power of some money for soft power. So, you know, I think you just got to be careful about the extremes. But the concept of let's go through it and let the people, you know, feel and let political judgments be made. No one's going to have a problem.
PBD Podcast
Trump Gaza, USAID Waste EXPOSED, FCC Investigates George Soros w/ Chris Cuomo | PBD Podcast | Ep. 545
Because Elon works for the Republicans. If Biden had done this with Bill Gates, Republicans would be going crazy. Vinny, there is an immutable truth here that everybody has to get their hands around. If you think one party is better than the other when it comes to playing to advantage, then you are being sold by the game.
PBD Podcast
Trump Gaza, USAID Waste EXPOSED, FCC Investigates George Soros w/ Chris Cuomo | PBD Podcast | Ep. 545
The hole we'd be going in would be done.
PBD Podcast
Trump Gaza, USAID Waste EXPOSED, FCC Investigates George Soros w/ Chris Cuomo | PBD Podcast | Ep. 545
I don't know, but you guys would be very upset. I know that much.
PBD Podcast
Trump Gaza, USAID Waste EXPOSED, FCC Investigates George Soros w/ Chris Cuomo | PBD Podcast | Ep. 545
How come the Epstein files aren't one of the things that are being exposed, by the way, along with JFK and Bobby Kennedy and Dr. King's deaths? How come they're not releasing Epstein?
PBD Podcast
Trump Gaza, USAID Waste EXPOSED, FCC Investigates George Soros w/ Chris Cuomo | PBD Podcast | Ep. 545
They're going one at a time.
PBD Podcast
Trump Gaza, USAID Waste EXPOSED, FCC Investigates George Soros w/ Chris Cuomo | PBD Podcast | Ep. 545
I think people make choices about what matters to them and what doesn't matter to them. And I don't disagree. I'm not being skeptical of it because, look, my problem with skepticism is it's the lowest form of intelligence. So you now have to take a couple more steps. Is Gates right that millions could die? It's a possibility. It's not a probability. Why?
PBD Podcast
Trump Gaza, USAID Waste EXPOSED, FCC Investigates George Soros w/ Chris Cuomo | PBD Podcast | Ep. 545
Because you're doing the things with the mosquito nets and the AIDS and the malaria and all these different things that fall under USAID. I get it. Things could be worse in situations. The mistake is making it like there's a right and a wrong. There's a preference. And they are legitimate political questions. And if Trump wants to go through this, fine. How Musk does it is worthy of scrutiny.
PBD Podcast
Trump Gaza, USAID Waste EXPOSED, FCC Investigates George Soros w/ Chris Cuomo | PBD Podcast | Ep. 545
The first thing that should have happened that didn't happen, that would have been very helpful... Musk should have done personally what he's doing with these agencies. What money do you get from the government? What are your relationships? What information are you accessing? And what does that mean to your businesses? That's my only concern about Elon is I don't want him. I don't know him.
PBD Podcast
Trump Gaza, USAID Waste EXPOSED, FCC Investigates George Soros w/ Chris Cuomo | PBD Podcast | Ep. 545
I'm not judging him. But you're giving a private citizen access to information. and dynamics when they are in the business of information and those same dynamics. That's all. So I just think he has to be transparent.
PBD Podcast
Trump Gaza, USAID Waste EXPOSED, FCC Investigates George Soros w/ Chris Cuomo | PBD Podcast | Ep. 545
Because they lost to somebody they thought they were told. Democrats were told they were going to win. And people get really angry. I disagree.
PBD Podcast
Trump Gaza, USAID Waste EXPOSED, FCC Investigates George Soros w/ Chris Cuomo | PBD Podcast | Ep. 545
I have no idea. I doesn't it's not a relevant metric to me. The metric would be go through it line by line. Yeah. And then prove me wrong, because I think that Democrats and Republicans have contributed to their budget since 1961. So you're going to have to look at it and you can go through it. And I don't have any problem with any of that. Yeah. I do think, look, there's always politics at play.
PBD Podcast
Trump Gaza, USAID Waste EXPOSED, FCC Investigates George Soros w/ Chris Cuomo | PBD Podcast | Ep. 545
The idea that, you know, Trump was there 2016, 2020. OK, what? There was no waste, fraud and abuse there at USAID. So the idea that this is new.
PBD Podcast
Trump Gaza, USAID Waste EXPOSED, FCC Investigates George Soros w/ Chris Cuomo | PBD Podcast | Ep. 545
He went in there saying he was going to drain the swamp. He was going to do exactly what he's doing now.
PBD Podcast
Trump Gaza, USAID Waste EXPOSED, FCC Investigates George Soros w/ Chris Cuomo | PBD Podcast | Ep. 545
So Stephen A. said something great on Bill Maher the other day. The truth is rarely easy for everybody to hear. He said, for all of these people trying to wonder how you could vote for someone like Donald Trump, change the question. The question is, what does it tell you that more people in America saw Donald Trump, for all we know about him, as closer to normal than the Democrats?
PBD Podcast
Trump Gaza, USAID Waste EXPOSED, FCC Investigates George Soros w/ Chris Cuomo | PBD Podcast | Ep. 545
That's the question you have to be asking. And once you ask that, a lot of things start to be very clear to you. This issue, OK, what's the strength of this issue? It is a common sense vibe, not just for girl dads. You know, I mean, you and I are girl dads, but I don't think you have to be. You don't want somebody like you or like me playing against a female. OK, that's a no brainer.
PBD Podcast
Trump Gaza, USAID Waste EXPOSED, FCC Investigates George Soros w/ Chris Cuomo | PBD Podcast | Ep. 545
The Democrats miss that because of what? The nuances of the issue. You have a better chance of being struck by lightning than playing against a transgender female athlete. That this is a very bullied class of people and the last thing they need is more pressure on them as being a problem. Those are fair points, but they don't remove the common sense aspect of what this is.
PBD Podcast
Trump Gaza, USAID Waste EXPOSED, FCC Investigates George Soros w/ Chris Cuomo | PBD Podcast | Ep. 545
And if it happens so rarely, then don't worry about the prohibition then. Because you're not really affecting that many people anyway. So you might as well do what seems to be common sense to the majority of the country. That's what this issue is about. And the left found itself in a dynamic that we've seen the right in also. This is the problem with the binary system.
PBD Podcast
Trump Gaza, USAID Waste EXPOSED, FCC Investigates George Soros w/ Chris Cuomo | PBD Podcast | Ep. 545
They are co-opted by their fringe. radicals that fight their own culture wars their own way, which is not that everything is okay. If somebody wants it, it's okay. Okay, that's America. No, that's not what I'm saying, Pat. You have to say it the same way. You have to believe it the way they want you to believe it.
PBD Podcast
Trump Gaza, USAID Waste EXPOSED, FCC Investigates George Soros w/ Chris Cuomo | PBD Podcast | Ep. 545
You have to let your kids use the vocabulary and the ideas that these people want for themselves. You have to use it also. If they want to be called something, you have to say that. And your kids have to be taught that. That's where the left lost the country, was that you do not do this in this country. You do you, I do me.
PBD Podcast
Trump Gaza, USAID Waste EXPOSED, FCC Investigates George Soros w/ Chris Cuomo | PBD Podcast | Ep. 545
That ends as soon as what you do for you becomes what I have to do for me. That's where they lost the narrative. And we saw that with canceling. So if I were to question this, look, you know how many times I've said this? You don't want somebody my size playing against your 16-year-old girl. And people come, show me somebody your size doing it. I don't have to show you.
PBD Podcast
Trump Gaza, USAID Waste EXPOSED, FCC Investigates George Soros w/ Chris Cuomo | PBD Podcast | Ep. 545
I'm telling you, you don't want that. So to the extent that it's possible, you don't want it. You're a bigot. Why am I a bigot? Because you're basically saying that all trans females are your size. No, I'm not. I don't know that any are my size. I'm saying that as a possibility, it's something that you should rule out. It offends common sense. No, you're putting your mores on these other people.
PBD Podcast
Trump Gaza, USAID Waste EXPOSED, FCC Investigates George Soros w/ Chris Cuomo | PBD Podcast | Ep. 545
You're judging. You should be canceled. You shouldn't be in your position. It happened immediately. That's why their numbers are where they are. That's the answer for the left. The question is, how do they get back to what makes sense?
PBD Podcast
Trump Gaza, USAID Waste EXPOSED, FCC Investigates George Soros w/ Chris Cuomo | PBD Podcast | Ep. 545
The party doesn't even resemble his party. Trump's base was Mario Cuomo's base.
PBD Podcast
Trump Gaza, USAID Waste EXPOSED, FCC Investigates George Soros w/ Chris Cuomo | PBD Podcast | Ep. 545
So the theory, the argument for Democrats with Pop, okay? What was Pop? He was you. Not even, right? Because you were born somewhere else. Pop was first-generation American, not seen as white. Pop got described a lot of the ways that you deal with when people start exposing you, right? Well, he's an ethnic. He's swarthy. You know, he's an other, right? I'm a white guy, okay? My father wasn't.
PBD Podcast
Trump Gaza, USAID Waste EXPOSED, FCC Investigates George Soros w/ Chris Cuomo | PBD Podcast | Ep. 545
So he was speaking for people like that. They say we're not good enough. They say we don't belong. They say that they get to tell us how to be and who we are and that we don't get to succeed or fail on our own merits. I'm going to fight them. He was the original anti-elitist. When my father found out I was being recruited, I wanted to go to an Ivy League school. He was so disappointed.
PBD Podcast
Trump Gaza, USAID Waste EXPOSED, FCC Investigates George Soros w/ Chris Cuomo | PBD Podcast | Ep. 545
He was only disappointed that much one other time in my life. which was when I decided to leave the law and finance and go into the media. His joke was, why can't you do something that matters more to society, like sell crack? That was his feeling when I went into the media. But when I wanted to go to an Ivy League school, he was like, do you know what they think of me?
PBD Podcast
Trump Gaza, USAID Waste EXPOSED, FCC Investigates George Soros w/ Chris Cuomo | PBD Podcast | Ep. 545
Do you know what those people thought about me? And that was his sell to people. I know they think you're not good enough. They're wrong. And their rules will not apply to all of us. That was the sell, the working man. What was the union about? Civil liberties. And what is the government keeping us from? That was his sell. And it was what was his tagline?
PBD Podcast
Trump Gaza, USAID Waste EXPOSED, FCC Investigates George Soros w/ Chris Cuomo | PBD Podcast | Ep. 545
All the government you need, but only the government you need. That was his tagline. What is it now? It's welcome to the freak show. The Democrats flipped their narrative to, hey, this culture war keeps beating us. So let's have our own version of it, which is inclusion, acceptance. And anybody who doesn't want to include and accept as we do, we'll get rid of.
PBD Podcast
Trump Gaza, USAID Waste EXPOSED, FCC Investigates George Soros w/ Chris Cuomo | PBD Podcast | Ep. 545
And that's why their numbers are where they are. The AOC mentality. Look, I'm not a straight hater on AOC. I respect success. She's built a real following for herself. There's no question. You got to respect that. She's got passion and she's got purpose. But this is politics. And her calling Musk an idiot.
PBD Podcast
Trump Gaza, USAID Waste EXPOSED, FCC Investigates George Soros w/ Chris Cuomo | PBD Podcast | Ep. 545
Look. It's I know their numbers are very underwater. And again, it makes sense. By the way, nobody's doing well. Republicans just had an historic victory that nobody thought would happen. They're underwater. Trump has better numbers. Let's see where he is in five months. You know, he's at 46. He could easily be at 42, which is where most presidents are.
PBD Podcast
Trump Gaza, USAID Waste EXPOSED, FCC Investigates George Soros w/ Chris Cuomo | PBD Podcast | Ep. 545
So but within that structure, what do we see? OK, they lost this election by like this much, but they never lose the popular vote. It's very rare.
PBD Podcast
Trump Gaza, USAID Waste EXPOSED, FCC Investigates George Soros w/ Chris Cuomo | PBD Podcast | Ep. 545
The issues that they campaigned on to win are, are in the major population centers that minorities are disadvantaged by Republican policies, that the working class are disadvantaged by Republican fiscal policies, and that Trump is crazy.
PBD Podcast
Trump Gaza, USAID Waste EXPOSED, FCC Investigates George Soros w/ Chris Cuomo | PBD Podcast | Ep. 545
and that you have a brand of conservatives that are radical Christian, and if they're not Christian, they're just radical conservative that is bad for America as a place for everyone. Those are their three big spots.
PBD Podcast
Trump Gaza, USAID Waste EXPOSED, FCC Investigates George Soros w/ Chris Cuomo | PBD Podcast | Ep. 545
Well, they just lost this. But look, look at the House. They lost by one seat. So obviously they're winning campaigns. Right. Right. They're winning campaigns. You have a Senate advantage. This was supposedly historic. Trump says he has the biggest mandate ever. OK, you adjust for hyperbole. He's got a three seat advantage in the Senate. It's nowhere near a historic margin.
PBD Podcast
Trump Gaza, USAID Waste EXPOSED, FCC Investigates George Soros w/ Chris Cuomo | PBD Podcast | Ep. 545
He has like a one or two seat, depending on how you look at it, advantage in the House. So the idea that, well, the Democrats are losing everything all the time, we're not seeing, except at the state level. You look at governorships and state houses, the Democrats have been getting their clocks cleaned. Why? Because what they say doesn't match what they do. And that's their problem.
PBD Podcast
Trump Gaza, USAID Waste EXPOSED, FCC Investigates George Soros w/ Chris Cuomo | PBD Podcast | Ep. 545
They are not for the working man. They're not for regular families. They are for small percentage niche cultural agendas.
PBD Podcast
Trump Gaza, USAID Waste EXPOSED, FCC Investigates George Soros w/ Chris Cuomo | PBD Podcast | Ep. 545
I don't think there'll be any transaction where any of these people are in. First 100 days. No.
PBD Podcast
Trump Gaza, USAID Waste EXPOSED, FCC Investigates George Soros w/ Chris Cuomo | PBD Podcast | Ep. 545
I get it. I just don't get the America thing. This is a niche issue. It was used very well in the campaign. It is a common sense issue. I don't disagree with your rationale. I'm just saying the idea that this is why people voted, I don't think so. I think it was more of a feel issue.
PBD Podcast
Trump Gaza, USAID Waste EXPOSED, FCC Investigates George Soros w/ Chris Cuomo | PBD Podcast | Ep. 545
Make people feel that you're not really in touch with me. I care about the economy. I care about immigration. Those are my two big ones. Foreign, depends on what we're talking about. This is a feel issue. I don't think we're on the same page. I care about other things more, but this makes me feel like you're not getting me. And that matters in politics.
PBD Podcast
Trump Gaza, USAID Waste EXPOSED, FCC Investigates George Soros w/ Chris Cuomo | PBD Podcast | Ep. 545
I'm just saying the idea that this is like the 1965 Voter Rights Act, I don't think that that's what it is. You don't have the numbers of people expressing this reality That would make it something where you have to do something about it right away. I'm not arguing with the rationale. I get it. I get what the concern is. I'm just saying I see it as more political than practical.
PBD Podcast
Trump Gaza, USAID Waste EXPOSED, FCC Investigates George Soros w/ Chris Cuomo | PBD Podcast | Ep. 545
I don't know that it's banned, but I don't think there'll be a transaction.
PBD Podcast
Trump Gaza, USAID Waste EXPOSED, FCC Investigates George Soros w/ Chris Cuomo | PBD Podcast | Ep. 545
That is a much, much better argument for you guys to be making. Immigration is the biggest failure for Democrats since the New Deal.
PBD Podcast
Trump Gaza, USAID Waste EXPOSED, FCC Investigates George Soros w/ Chris Cuomo | PBD Podcast | Ep. 545
First of all, as with people saying, let's judge what Trump has done since he's gotten in office. Why aren't eggs more less expensive? That's not fair. What are Democrats selling right now? Nothing. They're reeling. I'm still getting emails on my phone this moment from Kamala Harris, the fight fund. So they have not moved forward.
PBD Podcast
Trump Gaza, USAID Waste EXPOSED, FCC Investigates George Soros w/ Chris Cuomo | PBD Podcast | Ep. 545
OK, they are in a paroxysm of pain and self-doubt and blaming in-house USAID money. These people took in billions of dollars. They don't know where it went. And now they're asking me for more? I mean, look, everybody, I get the Trump ones. I get all of them. But my point is, they're not selling anything right now. They're figuring it out.
PBD Podcast
Trump Gaza, USAID Waste EXPOSED, FCC Investigates George Soros w/ Chris Cuomo | PBD Podcast | Ep. 545
That's not an unusual place to be after you got knocked out.
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Trump Gaza, USAID Waste EXPOSED, FCC Investigates George Soros w/ Chris Cuomo | PBD Podcast | Ep. 545
It opens up with her going, I missed the bowl.
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Trump Gaza, USAID Waste EXPOSED, FCC Investigates George Soros w/ Chris Cuomo | PBD Podcast | Ep. 545
My problem with that story from the beginning was, you edit every interview. You edit every interview. I've edited every interview I've ever done with Trump, unless it was live. Why? Because that's what you do. You have a certain amount of time. You're trying to fit it in.
PBD Podcast
Trump Gaza, USAID Waste EXPOSED, FCC Investigates George Soros w/ Chris Cuomo | PBD Podcast | Ep. 545
Everybody knows you're not allowed to do that.
PBD Podcast
Trump Gaza, USAID Waste EXPOSED, FCC Investigates George Soros w/ Chris Cuomo | PBD Podcast | Ep. 545
And here's the standard. It's subjective, but here's the standard. So I ask you, how are you doing? You say, good, but the other day, and then you go down a road. I have to use the beginning of the answer. What you can do is then edit within that answer something that makes a different editorial point that you want to make. That's okay.
PBD Podcast
Trump Gaza, USAID Waste EXPOSED, FCC Investigates George Soros w/ Chris Cuomo | PBD Podcast | Ep. 545
There is an argument here that that's not what was done, and by 60 minutes of all people to be in this position is really embarrassing, and it is a clear indication. 60 minutes isn't what it was anymore, okay? They don't have people who are recognized as the best in the business, doing the job on issues that are topical, and everybody wants to be there. It's just another media product now.
PBD Podcast
Trump Gaza, USAID Waste EXPOSED, FCC Investigates George Soros w/ Chris Cuomo | PBD Podcast | Ep. 545
It's not what it was. And they have things to answer for here. And the silence shouldn't be acceptable. Just like it shouldn't be acceptable for anybody else. When they ask them their questions, you get a no comment. They're not explaining it. And that's on them.
PBD Podcast
Trump Gaza, USAID Waste EXPOSED, FCC Investigates George Soros w/ Chris Cuomo | PBD Podcast | Ep. 545
The far left.
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Trump Gaza, USAID Waste EXPOSED, FCC Investigates George Soros w/ Chris Cuomo | PBD Podcast | Ep. 545
I think she moved, like they all do, right? Well, this was weird, because it was an artificial process. Pre-election. Pre-election, she was left far left. And then, you know, she does what a lot of politicians do. She moves to where she needs to be to win that particular thing. So when she was running for Attorney General in California... She was saying one kind of thing about law and order.
PBD Podcast
Trump Gaza, USAID Waste EXPOSED, FCC Investigates George Soros w/ Chris Cuomo | PBD Podcast | Ep. 545
Then when you want to be on the national stage as senator, you say something else about law and order. That's typical politics. But they are absolutely co-opted, or they have been, by their left fringe. And they have to deal with it and figure out what they want to do.
PBD Podcast
Trump Gaza, USAID Waste EXPOSED, FCC Investigates George Soros w/ Chris Cuomo | PBD Podcast | Ep. 545
There's no need. There's a difference between being anti-diversity of type and what you force on people. There's a very stark difference. And Democrats or anybody, you're not going to be successful in American politics if you think in any way you get to tell people what to think or how to feel. Of course. You will lose.
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Trump Gaza, USAID Waste EXPOSED, FCC Investigates George Soros w/ Chris Cuomo | PBD Podcast | Ep. 545
Although I don't think people, I don't think women see themselves as pro-abortion.
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Trump Gaza, USAID Waste EXPOSED, FCC Investigates George Soros w/ Chris Cuomo | PBD Podcast | Ep. 545
2%.
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Trump Gaza, USAID Waste EXPOSED, FCC Investigates George Soros w/ Chris Cuomo | PBD Podcast | Ep. 545
No, I'm saying that trust is at an all-time low. And that's why my point was that Republicans, after an historic victory that wasn't supposed to be able to happen, they're still underwater. Why? The American people are very disenchanted with the two-party system.
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Trump Gaza, USAID Waste EXPOSED, FCC Investigates George Soros w/ Chris Cuomo | PBD Podcast | Ep. 545
He is. But by the way, that's not historically. But hold on.
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Trump Gaza, USAID Waste EXPOSED, FCC Investigates George Soros w/ Chris Cuomo | PBD Podcast | Ep. 545
They're not the same. I'm saying look at them in context. The president is where most are when they just win. OK, so it's not out of the ordinary. Are the Democrats down lower than ordinarily? Yes, for good reason. What are they going to do about it? I have no idea. Well, I'm in the business of watching and making sense as we go. But the idea of why are they so low, I think it makes perfect sense.
PBD Podcast
Trump Gaza, USAID Waste EXPOSED, FCC Investigates George Soros w/ Chris Cuomo | PBD Podcast | Ep. 545
And I think you're basically articulating it. I think that what are they going to do about it? I don't know.
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Trump Gaza, USAID Waste EXPOSED, FCC Investigates George Soros w/ Chris Cuomo | PBD Podcast | Ep. 545
Like one of my relatives.
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Trump Gaza, USAID Waste EXPOSED, FCC Investigates George Soros w/ Chris Cuomo | PBD Podcast | Ep. 545
Yes.
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Trump Gaza, USAID Waste EXPOSED, FCC Investigates George Soros w/ Chris Cuomo | PBD Podcast | Ep. 545
There's no question that, again, like I said about 15 minutes ago, the left went way too far. on what they wanted to describe as normal, and what they wanted to insist everybody else must agree with. And that's where they lost the country.
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Trump Gaza, USAID Waste EXPOSED, FCC Investigates George Soros w/ Chris Cuomo | PBD Podcast | Ep. 545
And look, I hope that that's true for another reason, by the way. What else did we see in this election that we've never seen before? More people voted as independent than did as Democrat, almost as many as Republican. That is your no longer black swan. People are sick of the parties. You know who else is sick of the parties? President Donald John Trump. He is not really pro-Republican.
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Trump Gaza, USAID Waste EXPOSED, FCC Investigates George Soros w/ Chris Cuomo | PBD Podcast | Ep. 545
You hear him talk about Republicans, Very rare. I agree. So that's the best hope for us.
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Trump Gaza, USAID Waste EXPOSED, FCC Investigates George Soros w/ Chris Cuomo | PBD Podcast | Ep. 545
I think he is damn close, certainly in our lifetime.
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Trump Gaza, USAID Waste EXPOSED, FCC Investigates George Soros w/ Chris Cuomo | PBD Podcast | Ep. 545
I think that you've had a couple. I think that if you looked at Clinton, Clinton could have made a case. I don't disagree. Of being in either party. It was a different kind of case. He wasn't an outrage guy.
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Trump Gaza, USAID Waste EXPOSED, FCC Investigates George Soros w/ Chris Cuomo | PBD Podcast | Ep. 545
Yeah. So I think that most people have fallen along that line, which is why they used to get so much done. There wasn't that much daylight between them.
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Trump Gaza, USAID Waste EXPOSED, FCC Investigates George Soros w/ Chris Cuomo | PBD Podcast | Ep. 545
Okay, well, no, she definitely just signed an order that she is going to halt specific funding that is under her purview, obviously, for sanctuary cities pending a review of what they're doing and why they are sanctuary cities. And this is a very intelligent position.
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Trump Gaza, USAID Waste EXPOSED, FCC Investigates George Soros w/ Chris Cuomo | PBD Podcast | Ep. 545
Very intelligent position for her. The way she worded it shows why she was, of course, compared to Matt Gaetz, you know, she was going to be a much easier course of choice. But there's an intelligence to her position. She's not saying it even the way Holman is. She knows, you know, she's a good lawyer, Pam Bondi. She knows why Sanctuary City started. They didn't start as what they are right now.
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Trump Gaza, USAID Waste EXPOSED, FCC Investigates George Soros w/ Chris Cuomo | PBD Podcast | Ep. 545
So municipalities were getting jammed up because ICE wasn't funded or staffed in a way to do the job they were supposed to do. So what would happen is you would get these illegal entrants, okay, and you'd be holding them for a really long time because ICE couldn't get it together to come and get them. And these municipalities started getting sued.
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Trump Gaza, USAID Waste EXPOSED, FCC Investigates George Soros w/ Chris Cuomo | PBD Podcast | Ep. 545
And they were losing because they were holding people too long. And that was the birth of it. What it has become is an open hostility towards the existing policy. They're going to lose. And you cannot stop, a state can't stop a federal law from being executed. So if the federal law is we're coming to get them, and it is now, then you can't say no.
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Trump Gaza, USAID Waste EXPOSED, FCC Investigates George Soros w/ Chris Cuomo | PBD Podcast | Ep. 545
And if you do, you're going to lose your federal funding. You're going to lose in court. And this is a no-brainer, and Bondi is doing it the right way. She's not just doing it blanket across the board. She's going to say, I'm going to look at each one of them. We'll see why they're doing what they're doing, and then we'll proceed.
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I mean, I kind of forced the invitation. Did you go? I kept saying, I want to go. I want to go. No, I'm working on it now, because what I don't want is what I saw with Dr. Phil, OK? No disrespect to Dr. Phil. That's not what it's about. But I'm not going there as a propagandist for ICE raids. I want to show the reality over time.
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of what they're dealing with, where they're going, what they're getting. And I think it would be really helpful to the American people. And NewsNation is willing to invest. And I think there's a bigger production to be done here of allowing transparency. Because what's going to happen is you're going to be hearing stories.
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Murphy's playing on something that's not a bad game, which is you're also going to sweep up the wrong people. You're going to people who entered here illegally, but they've done everything right since then. And that is not the threat to the country that was being initially articulated. That'll happen. But I don't want this to be a one-off every time where an exception is being made the rule.
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And I think the more transparency there is, the more fair an assessment the American people have.
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Yes, but here's the thing. And this is why they've been a little slow coming out with their numbers. Where they're going to get people, it's not like they're doing what I thought they were going to do, which is the police tell us this is where the MS-13 guys are hanging out. This is where they live. We know where they are. We just don't go after them because it's like a big deal. Yeah.
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And that's what they're doing. They're going to a place and they're getting people who are also there with other illegal entrants. So they're getting like eight people when they were looking for one specifically. What do you mean they're there with other illegal entrants?
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They're illegal themselves. They're all illegal.
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Yeah, they live there. They work there. They're hanging out there. Whatever it is.
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I get it. I get it. But the idea of what the law is is pretty clear. The idea of whether everybody is the same within that bucket is not true. For instance, Dreamers. I only feel complete compassion for this group of people
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who have, through no will of their own, have been put in a position where they are not able to succeed or fail on their own merits in this country because of their designation as Dreamers. Trump agrees with that. He was going to do it as a one-off in his first term, and the Republicans wouldn't let him, if you'll remember. Why?
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Because they had givebacks that they wanted, chain migration and other things. The dreamer should be taken care of and taken out of this equation. And the fact that it's not is just ugly politics.
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He says, you know what it is? He says, it's a secret test, future looks bright. I was like, no, I don't think it is. I think Pat's just trying to be optimistic. He goes, exactly. If anybody looks at my shirt and says future looks bright and has a problem with it, he goes, they're an Americant. Ha! And I was thinking about it, and I was like, well, that is true. What would be your problem with it?
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DACA has a specific legal definition.
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Future looks bright. That's right. Why don't you want the future to look bright?
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You can't spend your way out of the problem. And it is a great, if misleading, statistic that we pay the most and we get the least. There are a lot of problems with the cost structure, and that is also state by state.
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It's misleading in that the reason it is expensive is because what goes into government funding in the first place. If you look at the funding, it's not that the kid gets $9,000 a year. It's that the system of what the unions have to – what the unions get out of it. and what all the staffing is, and the transportation, and the physical plants.
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There's all this other stuff that goes in it that's all very expensive in America. So that's not why you're failing. Why you're failing is very complicated. Getting rid of the DOE isn't going to necessarily automatically make things better because the states will have more control. Milton Friedman was very good on this. Get rid of the Department of Education.
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He would say yes, but then when you asked him for the rationale, he would wind up really just, it's about scaling. And again, these are political choices. Can Trump do it alone? No, that's easy. That's Article I, Section 8 of the Constitution. If Congress funds it, Congress controls its existence. So you need Congress to get rid of a government agency.
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Oh, just like any other law. You don't need a supermajority or anything like that. But you need a congressional act. But that's not the point. He doesn't have to get rid of it to gut it. So he could get rid of it. He could scale it down, but he cannot eliminate an agency. And that's okay, because that's not really the debate we're having. That's the debate they'll make.
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That's what Roe is doing, whom I also think is a fair broker, and I love having him on my show. But it's not about him overtaking constitutional power. That's not where we are. It's about how do you do this better? And everybody knows, look, I'll tell you what a taxpayer wouldn't argue with, okay?
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I'm going to raise your taxes and we're going to have kids in school longer than anybody else in the world. And we're going to have the school day longer. We're going to feed them differently. We're going to educate them. We're going to exercise them. And we're going to do all these things that aren't getting done by families in this country anymore.
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I don't think taxpayers would have the same kind of problem that they do right now because it's about the return on investment. All these kids are failing in the schools. Why? Because the standards have sunk. They're dealing with all these things that aren't education related. And there is no real incentive to succeed for any of these places. Nobody gets punished if their kids don't do well.
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So you can do it without getting rid of the DOE. You can keep the parts that work and you get rid of the parts that don't. And these are political judgments. The president can do a lot of it on his own. If he can't, then he turns to his party. and says, this is what I want.
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I don't think they're going to get rid of the entire agency. But again, you don't have to to make the kinds of changes that are being discussed.
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Yeah. But this has existed for a long time. And we have a culture of accommodation, not of excellence. One of the reasons you guys have been able to distinguish yourselves is that Pat is so results focused and oriented. You do not have that in our culture in a lot of places, specifically within our systems. You don't have it. You don't have it in our government.
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You don't have it in our education system.
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Look, I mean, I don't think these are new arguments. The question gets into, well, how do you change it? And the biggest thing in politics that people don't want to touch, you will not hear, whether it's Trump, I don't care who the politician is, no one's going to say, You know, Pat, your kids aren't doing well. You're not getting it done as a parent. How much phone time you letting them have?
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How much do you make your kid read every night? Well, I got to work. I got to do this. No, I understand. But, you know, it's on you. Your kid is a reflection of your efforts. You're not going to hear anybody say that. You're not going to hear anybody say that. Why? Because you're not voting for me now. So our politics is about giving somebody an excuse for their own behavior.
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And, you know, oh, we don't we spend too much money if we spent less and we did it differently or the states had more control. If you don't raise your kids right, it doesn't matter what school they're going to. I've had my kid, my oldest kid went to what some think anecdotally, to your point, is the best high school in the country. OK, Trinity in New York City, private school.
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I'm telling you, as somebody who watched her go through that school from K to 12, okay, she's only going to do as well as we make her do. She was blessed with a good brain. What she's going to make of it is about what her mother insisted on every freaking night and in the fights that we had over this stupid thing. And the best thing a school has ever done for me?
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Was what my public school in Sag Harbor did of Long Island of making you not allowed to have this phone in school. My kid has changed academically because the environment has changed. She doesn't have to compete with her friends about this distraction machine. And that is something that a school can do. But otherwise, it's on parents. You know, we're trying to absent them from this.
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It's not fair. We are on the same page on the responsibility where it's at. I mean, look at your kids. Look how you are with them. What do you think? It's just genetics that they're doing what they're doing at this young age? You're making it happen for them.
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Have you watched this generation watch a movie at home?
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They watch the movie and they're on the phone. At the same time. And if you say, do you not like the movie? Do you want me to pick another one up? Oh, no, no, I like this. Nothing's happening right now in the movie. I said, what are you talking about? The movie is happening. That's what's happening. No, nothing's happening when something happens.
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I'm telling you, I know our parents were the same way with the TV, the boob tube. Nothing like this. Nothing like this. And the research is all over the place, but we don't deal with it. Why? Because it's hard.
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No social media until 16. That should be the national law. Well, what did DeSantis impose here?
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Social media, yeah.
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Whatever he did is good. I don't even know. I haven't heard of it. But anything, I'm telling you, if I could go back in time and fight one fight, And when? I would have never given my kids a smartphone. What age did you give them a phone? Whatever they wanted it. Whenever the other kids started getting it. And it got younger and younger with each kid. Do you remember what age?
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Bella didn't get it until she was 13 or something like that. Mario was probably then going to be like 12 because she had it. Cha-Cha was going to be like 11 because her friends had it. And you lose because you're weak and you want it easy. And you want to pick your fights. And it's a mistake.
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You're right. And the less and less I go on, you know, Pat was joking around with me when I came in saying, hey, you look good today. I'm telling you, I have made a conscious decision. Now, my timing's not great because social media is more relevant in our world than it ever has been in media. But I have made a conscious decision to not be on it as often. And I've seen the change in my search.
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My search thing is now dominated by car restorations and changing shoes on horses and dealing with problems with cows. I could be a farrier. I watched so many videos about how to deal with ulcers on cow hooves. Why? Because I am making a conscious effort. I'm doing homework all day for my shows.
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But I'm telling you, the more I disengage from what's happening on social media, the happier I become.
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I have not read it.
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I have this book. I have not read it. Somebody just sent it to me. You will not be able to put it down.
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And you see parents adjusting. These new groups, you probably see them here a lot in Florida. Remember when we used to have the girls wear the promise rings and I'm not going to have sex until this age or whatever it was?
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There are kids now who are agreeing not until high school or something like that as middle schoolers where we're all going to stay with flip phones or we're all going to not have social media as a group, as a team until this age. And it's a great way to counter something that you cannot convince me
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I have a huge problem with people who have a problem with it.
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I moved it out of the way. Yeah, you did. Nah, nah, nah.
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He pulled it out.
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He's got that restriction.
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People are making the point. that he is subservient to Israel. That's what they're trying to do. And look, again, you can feel that way. We have never had an American president, and Bibi admitted it on the stage, that he feels more supported by Trump than ever before. That's right.
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He pulled it out from under him.
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Of course. I don't think anybody knew Trump was going to be saying that. It wasn't what was written for him. He had just said the language where he's like, everybody's going to have to be part of this thing and doing it. And then he says it. I'm supposed to have his hostage envoy, who's his Middle East envoy, come on my show right after this. I get a call. Really sorry.
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I got to go into an emergency meeting. I got to go. I got to go in. I can't talk to you right now. I have nothing to say about this. This is what Trump does. OK, now, what I don't like about it is and I got killed for this last night and that's OK.
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Anybody who heard this, and certainly anybody in my business, knows that Trump was going off the cuff and saying something that was never going to be official U.S. policy. But everybody played it to advantage. On Fox, they started saying what a good idea this is. And then on MSNBC, you got Joy Reid, who's in outrage. This is ethnic cleansing.
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Both of these entities knew that Trump was just riffing. Right. But it works for their agendas. And that's the problem with our whole dialogue. God forbid you say anything that shakes it up and makes something happen and you get attacked from both sides. I don't see Trump as the problem on this one. Yes, he said something that nobody wants.
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Levitt came out right away and said, no boots on the ground and we're not paying for it. Well, that's not what he suggested. Yeah, I know. But that's the difference between official statement and when he's just pushing the envelope and rough it.
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There have been problems with the population.
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Look, that was the message that Trump articulated before he started riffing. And now I'm told after the fact that the motivation here was the Arab community has to step up. They call the Palestinians brothers all the time until it's time to pay or to play. And if they don't step up, it's 100% true.
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If they don't step up and pay for, you don't want them in your country, you think you have enough, that's fine. Pay, because there's no reason for America to pay for it. And look, what also doesn't work, and this won't be as popular, Israel being in control of that as an occupied territory doesn't work.
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So you need an international consortium there to make it work until it can establish itself as a standalone entity. And if Trump provokes that through this, then fine.
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But the idea that America is going to put boots on the ground, there's going to be ethnic cleansing, you're not allowed to come back, I think all of that is just to motivate left and right in proving which one is worse, and it's not the reality.
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Now, pause for one second. Everybody watching right now, remember what Tom just said is a fact, and it's probably the most important part of the story, and here's why. The next time any major media outlet plays a no comment as a tacit admission of guilt, remember they refuse to comment themselves. This happens all the time in the media where they'll come to you. They give you no time to respond.
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PBD, it turns out we hear that you're eating babies. And you're like, wait, this is the stupidest thing I've ever heard. Sorry, I got to go to print. I need to hear from you by 3 o'clock. And they play no comment as if PBD has something to hide. They did the same thing when they were asked a question. So just remember that. When someone says no comment, it doesn't mean that they're guilty.
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And outlets like Politico, like the New York Times, it's also involved in this story. I don't know why they're getting a pass. They do this all the time. So just be aware, as a critical thinking citizen, when they play no comment as a tacit admission, they did the same thing.
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Nothing other than what's being said now, and they're reinvestigating it. It certainly doesn't look good. I don't think it's why Shapiro wasn't picked.
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It was Harris' pick.
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Who brought Walls to Harris? Yes. The DNC and a couple of Harris' Biden crossover advisors, when they were looking at the map of where they needed somebody, they were trying to get a Midwestern vibe, but it was a makeup choice. It was Shapiro. Shapiro was the obvious choice. He was the best choice.
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Well, no, because the story could have come out anyway. Look, I think that she didn't pick him because he had a couple of negatives. One, he's better than she is, okay? He's better on his feet. He's not even close. He's a better messenger. The other thing is, he's a Jew, and he's a Jew who was aggressively pro-Israel during a time that the far left part
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of the Democratic Party was decidedly against it. And now, as a basic sell proposition, you are offering America a black woman and a Jewish guy. And those are not minority groups that have absolutely killed it in the electoral process nationwide. And I think it was too much for Democrats to swallow, and I think it made Harris' people nervous. So they didn't pick him.
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I thought it would have been a special moment of a first, like,
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Because the office made a determination that it was something that it doesn't look like it was. So why would you do something like that?
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Yeah. I don't think that this is his big problem. But, you know, the Democrats misplayed it. I'm not saying that it would have made a difference in the outcome. This was a grievance election.
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And they own the status quo, but he is a capable guy.
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Are disagreeers?
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And I like how they believe they can punish me with their reviews. Is that what they do? Yeah.
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They are coming to disagree about something that they either perceive I would support or they want to see whether or not I support something that they obviously don't like. And they're often very engaging. That's why I get back to them so fast. And I do like that in the... It's only a handful of occasions where I knew I was giving this person an answer that they did not want to hear.
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And I knew they were going to ding me with the review. Yeah. And sometimes I'll answer him back and be like, you dinged me with the review, you punk.
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For Politico. You're dovetailing a little bit with what Schellenberger has been talking about with some other coordination that he found between government funding and the CIA and the media, which is very cloudy at this point. The problem with this story when it came out, and I believe it was most likely leaked by the Doge guys because of who broke it, you don't see...
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He's looked like that since he was 16. If he's paying my bills, I think he looks just fine.
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He gave us free speech, and now he's cleaning up the government. Musk did not give you free speech. He bought it. For us. Natural rights gave you free speech. What do you mean natural? And the Constitution codified them. You know what I mean. He is pushing what he likes on a platform that he bought, which is his prerogative. Soros is a little bit of a boogeyman.
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There are a lot of people with a lot of money that inject their will on our politics. Now, today, we call them oligarchs. It's not new. It's why I did what I did at the political conventions. The people with the money push the agendas. It is very rare that you hear any Republican or any Democrat come out with policies that wind up hurting them.
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Even their fair share shit that they say on the left never winds up manifesting itself in any real reason. You could not like what Soros funds. That's fine. Correlation isn't causation with this radio thing. I don't think it was rammed in at the end so Odyssey could be like a big player in the election. I think that this was a bad move.
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I think it's likely illegal for them to do what they're doing on the radio station. And it's certainly a bad look for the radio station, KCBS, in that market. But there are a lot of guys who put their money in it. We've never seen anybody do what Elon's doing. That's why I think he's got to be careful to make sure he does everything in a way that's beyond reproach.
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And he doesn't make it easy for people to take down his efficiency efforts. But telling people where the authorities are is a really stupid thing to do. Really stupid.
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Trump Gaza, USAID Waste EXPOSED, FCC Investigates George Soros w/ Chris Cuomo | PBD Podcast | Ep. 545
Because you're hindering prosecution. You are obstructing justice by definition.
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Trump Gaza, USAID Waste EXPOSED, FCC Investigates George Soros w/ Chris Cuomo | PBD Podcast | Ep. 545
far-right podcasters breaking a lot of news, right? And they all came out at once with this story, so somebody probably leaked it to them. It was leaked as a USAID story, and it isn't. Most overwhelmingly, the money does not come from USAID.
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Trump Gaza, USAID Waste EXPOSED, FCC Investigates George Soros w/ Chris Cuomo | PBD Podcast | Ep. 545
Right, but it is. So they came out heavy on USAID. Why? Because that's the narrative that they wanted to run, right? And that's what was leaked to them. That's the problem with not being an accountable media organization, is that you'll just take what you're fed. But There is two legitimate questions here. There are two legitimate questions.
PBD Podcast
Trump Gaza, USAID Waste EXPOSED, FCC Investigates George Soros w/ Chris Cuomo | PBD Podcast | Ep. 545
Well, the question is why they're going up, what the enticement is. I would like to see Doge take on the military-industrial complex. And this is the first time we've had a Republican environment where they're open to it. Usually the Pentagon has been sacrosanct for them.
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Trump Gaza, USAID Waste EXPOSED, FCC Investigates George Soros w/ Chris Cuomo | PBD Podcast | Ep. 545
You can take the high-end estimate with trans people in the military is somewhere between 2,000 and 15,000, depending on whose number you want.
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Trump Gaza, USAID Waste EXPOSED, FCC Investigates George Soros w/ Chris Cuomo | PBD Podcast | Ep. 545
You have over 2 million people. I don't think that's the issue. But the idea of what are you doing with your defense department and what are you funding and why are you funding it, I can't think of an agency that needs it more than that one does.
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Trump Gaza, USAID Waste EXPOSED, FCC Investigates George Soros w/ Chris Cuomo | PBD Podcast | Ep. 545
It's hard to find special operators these days, which is really the majority of our presence and what we're doing, who don't believe that you're about 20 years past due when we needed to completely shift what our military does. So now, why are you starting somewhere else? Well, I think you want some early wins. And you want where it's manageable and there's going to be less pushback.
PBD Podcast
Trump Gaza, USAID Waste EXPOSED, FCC Investigates George Soros w/ Chris Cuomo | PBD Podcast | Ep. 545
Can you imagine if President Trump, let's not see Elon Musk because he's too easy to push back again. The guy hasn't even been vetted, let alone have that kind of authority. But if Trump says, I want to go line by line in the Defense Department and DOD, Pentagon, all of it. And I really want to cut things. And I'm not just talking about $300 toilets.
PBD Podcast
Trump Gaza, USAID Waste EXPOSED, FCC Investigates George Soros w/ Chris Cuomo | PBD Podcast | Ep. 545
I think that there would be a lot of Republican pushback. And the question is, well, then establishment Republican pushback or Republican pushback? Members of Congress whose constituencies eat from that trough heavily. And you know who else is going to come into play? The oligarchs, the real ones, the guys who get the real big contracts, which are defense contractors.
PBD Podcast
Trump Gaza, USAID Waste EXPOSED, FCC Investigates George Soros w/ Chris Cuomo | PBD Podcast | Ep. 545
And they're going to come in and say no. And that's a really interesting fight. I don't have a problem with that. I know, but we're also not having to do it. You know what I mean? That's a lot of money, a lot of power.
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Trump Gaza, USAID Waste EXPOSED, FCC Investigates George Soros w/ Chris Cuomo | PBD Podcast | Ep. 545
It's where we're farthest behind, and we live this all the time. We have real, easy hacking access. People take down our companies, our platforms all the time. And it is the most ignored thing. I mean, just think about it. If guys went to a railway station, they went to Amtrak, and they took over Penn Station, it would be a national story for three days.
PBD Podcast
Trump Gaza, USAID Waste EXPOSED, FCC Investigates George Soros w/ Chris Cuomo | PBD Podcast | Ep. 545
One is, should taxpayer dollars be going to any outlet for any reason? OK, because of the inherent conflict that Tom is bringing up. And I think that's a legitimate question. And it's a little surprising. I've never heard of this before. There's a second question though. Congress funds a lot of regional and local media. A lot of outlets are dying, right?
PBD Podcast
Trump Gaza, USAID Waste EXPOSED, FCC Investigates George Soros w/ Chris Cuomo | PBD Podcast | Ep. 545
It would be a huge thing, and everybody would have to die, right? They take it offline on a regular basis. China takes our power grid offline in different areas on a regular basis. And we never even talk about it. And then the only pushback, well, we do the same stuff to them. I don't care what we do to anybody else in this context. So it's a real conversation to have.
PBD Podcast
Trump Gaza, USAID Waste EXPOSED, FCC Investigates George Soros w/ Chris Cuomo | PBD Podcast | Ep. 545
I don't know that it gets had. I think you start with USAID for a reason. It's easy pickings. It's low fruit. This would be a real fight.
PBD Podcast
Trump Gaza, USAID Waste EXPOSED, FCC Investigates George Soros w/ Chris Cuomo | PBD Podcast | Ep. 545
I Ain't No Senator's Son. That song, when they wrote it in the 60s, is applicable today. I Ain't No Senator's Son. Who was it? Creedence Clearwater Revival?
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Trump Gaza, USAID Waste EXPOSED, FCC Investigates George Soros w/ Chris Cuomo | PBD Podcast | Ep. 545
I think that this has always been an us and them situation. I think if you talk to the men and women in the military, they'd be the first ones who would want to see the agencies that control their existence reviewed. And again, but it's a really hard fight. And you've got to think. Right now, and again, this is not a criticism, okay?
PBD Podcast
Trump Gaza, USAID Waste EXPOSED, FCC Investigates George Soros w/ Chris Cuomo | PBD Podcast | Ep. 545
You would be foolish to begin an administration taking on fights you may not win. That's silly. Build up some momentum, get some cachet that you can get things done. Smart.
PBD Podcast
Trump Gaza, USAID Waste EXPOSED, FCC Investigates George Soros w/ Chris Cuomo | PBD Podcast | Ep. 545
That's his choice. I think he has made a mistake ignoring News Nation. I don't care if he does an interview with me or not. But ignoring an outfit that oversamples to independents who are the fastest growing part of the electorate doesn't make any sense.
PBD Podcast
Trump Gaza, USAID Waste EXPOSED, FCC Investigates George Soros w/ Chris Cuomo | PBD Podcast | Ep. 545
Well done, Cuomo.
PBD Podcast
Trump Gaza, USAID Waste EXPOSED, FCC Investigates George Soros w/ Chris Cuomo | PBD Podcast | Ep. 545
I'd give him the shake hug. You know, when I first met him, he used to not shake hands. And I totally get it, man. You're around as many people as he is. You know, you'd be sick all the time shaking everybody's hand. But now, you know, he'd get the shake hug. You know, somebody gives you that kind of opportunity. You should show them respect. Also, I'm just that way.
PBD Podcast
Trump Gaza, USAID Waste EXPOSED, FCC Investigates George Soros w/ Chris Cuomo | PBD Podcast | Ep. 545
I get told that every once in a while when people see us or I'm hugging and saying hello to you. They'll be like, oh, wow, you really like that Pat guy. I'm like, well, that's what I do when I like somebody.
PBD Podcast
Trump Gaza, USAID Waste EXPOSED, FCC Investigates George Soros w/ Chris Cuomo | PBD Podcast | Ep. 545
I feel like he would absolutely dislocate my knee in about 18 seconds.
PBD Podcast
Trump Gaza, USAID Waste EXPOSED, FCC Investigates George Soros w/ Chris Cuomo | PBD Podcast | Ep. 545
You're going to go high.
PBD Podcast
Trump Gaza, USAID Waste EXPOSED, FCC Investigates George Soros w/ Chris Cuomo | PBD Podcast | Ep. 545
Local news is struggling in a lot of places, especially in print. There's a lot of subsidies. Is that a good use of taxpayer dollars? That's a harder question for me. It's easy to say, should you be giving the New York Times money? It's different if you're talking about the Topeka, Kansas Register newspaper. Why would you give them money, though?
PBD Podcast
Trump Gaza, USAID Waste EXPOSED, FCC Investigates George Soros w/ Chris Cuomo | PBD Podcast | Ep. 545
But I'm saying we haven't heard that story yet.
PBD Podcast
Trump Gaza, USAID Waste EXPOSED, FCC Investigates George Soros w/ Chris Cuomo | PBD Podcast | Ep. 545
Do you see anything that isn't a conspiracy?
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Trump Gaza, USAID Waste EXPOSED, FCC Investigates George Soros w/ Chris Cuomo | PBD Podcast | Ep. 545
I know you wouldn't because it would be self-owning.
PBD Podcast
Trump Gaza, USAID Waste EXPOSED, FCC Investigates George Soros w/ Chris Cuomo | PBD Podcast | Ep. 545
But he's not exactly a rock for brains. I think he sees some things.
PBD Podcast
Trump Gaza, USAID Waste EXPOSED, FCC Investigates George Soros w/ Chris Cuomo | PBD Podcast | Ep. 545
I have no idea. I'm a Bills fan. I do not think that the refs are why the Bills lost the game. You're a Bills fan? Yeah. I feel horrible for you. You know how to spell Bills? They won against Baltimore. You know how they spell Bills these days?
PBD Podcast
Trump Gaza, USAID Waste EXPOSED, FCC Investigates George Soros w/ Chris Cuomo | PBD Podcast | Ep. 545
Listen, I am also a Jets fan, so the Bills are like high cotton for me. But I'll tell you what. They won against the Ravens because a tight end dropped a pass. They lost against the Chiefs because a tight end dropped the pass. So that's football. I have never seen in the modern era a running back dominate the way Saquon Barkley does. Supposedly, you're not able to run in the NFL anymore.
PBD Podcast
Trump Gaza, USAID Waste EXPOSED, FCC Investigates George Soros w/ Chris Cuomo | PBD Podcast | Ep. 545
In the public interest of information and news that you want to inform citizenry and that these outlets are going to close down. There's going to be there will be fewer outlets. There'll be more driven by agendas. And we want to make sure that there's a robust free media, even if that means there has to be some supporting of smaller outlets that wouldn't survive in the marketplace.
PBD Podcast
Trump Gaza, USAID Waste EXPOSED, FCC Investigates George Soros w/ Chris Cuomo | PBD Podcast | Ep. 545
And I mean, what this guy is doing is amazing. I am not impressed by the Chiefs run defense. I think Jalen Hurts is good. I believe the Eagles are going to win. I don't know the score. I'm not good enough. But I do not believe that they're going to lose because of Pfizer and Taylor Swift.
PBD Podcast
Trump Gaza, USAID Waste EXPOSED, FCC Investigates George Soros w/ Chris Cuomo | PBD Podcast | Ep. 545
There are bad calls all the time.
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Trump Gaza, USAID Waste EXPOSED, FCC Investigates George Soros w/ Chris Cuomo | PBD Podcast | Ep. 545
They used to say the same thing about Jordan.
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Trump Gaza, USAID Waste EXPOSED, FCC Investigates George Soros w/ Chris Cuomo | PBD Podcast | Ep. 545
And Brady. But go ahead. Let me see this one. This is actually a funny one, too.
PBD Podcast
Trump Gaza, USAID Waste EXPOSED, FCC Investigates George Soros w/ Chris Cuomo | PBD Podcast | Ep. 545
He's cool, though. Don't you want this reporter to get punched in the face?
PBD Podcast
Trump Gaza, USAID Waste EXPOSED, FCC Investigates George Soros w/ Chris Cuomo | PBD Podcast | Ep. 545
Wouldn't you like if he just got up and did what Jim Everett did to Rome? Say it one more time. Oh, Chris Everett.
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Trump Gaza, USAID Waste EXPOSED, FCC Investigates George Soros w/ Chris Cuomo | PBD Podcast | Ep. 545
I don't know that they're going to get every close call. And look, I should be saying this, what you guys are saying, because the bill's lost, right? But I'm just saying, if you get to a game where you're down to the end and you're given this team a last drive, then you're asking to lose. That's true. You know, win so that there is no doubt.
PBD Podcast
Trump Gaza, USAID Waste EXPOSED, FCC Investigates George Soros w/ Chris Cuomo | PBD Podcast | Ep. 545
So what happens if Philadelphia wins 50-10? If Philadelphia wins 50-10, does Vinny come on here with me next week and say, see, they had to make it so obvious because... Of course, because of the Pfizer vaccine.
PBD Podcast
Trump Gaza, USAID Waste EXPOSED, FCC Investigates George Soros w/ Chris Cuomo | PBD Podcast | Ep. 545
That's the argument.
PBD Podcast
Trump Gaza, USAID Waste EXPOSED, FCC Investigates George Soros w/ Chris Cuomo | PBD Podcast | Ep. 545
You can argue that we are living proof right now that you don't need to do it this way anymore. Again, it's a political question, not a legal question. And I think that the media has evolved in a way where everybody has immediate access to information and they have their own microphone.
PBD Podcast
Trump Gaza, USAID Waste EXPOSED, FCC Investigates George Soros w/ Chris Cuomo | PBD Podcast | Ep. 545
So maybe the situation has changed and it's time to look at it because every dollar you save is a deliverable on what the promise of the last campaign was.
PBD Podcast
Trump Gaza, USAID Waste EXPOSED, FCC Investigates George Soros w/ Chris Cuomo | PBD Podcast | Ep. 545
Yeah, mostly HHS.
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Trump Gaza, USAID Waste EXPOSED, FCC Investigates George Soros w/ Chris Cuomo | PBD Podcast | Ep. 545
So I did a little research on this. They have an energy, a special, they have a special product that has like deeper experts and stuff. But here's the problem. Congress buys subscriptions also, Pat. But they do like a subscription that you can go in and everybody uses the same code for the New York Times so that all members of Congress can get access to these different media outlets.
PBD Podcast
Trump Gaza, USAID Waste EXPOSED, FCC Investigates George Soros w/ Chris Cuomo | PBD Podcast | Ep. 545
I don't have so much of a problem with that. They want to subscribe to Valuetainment so that everybody can see what's going on here. That's cool. They should be informed about what's happening in significant places. It's when you allow it on an individual basis, you wind up netting up these costs.
PBD Podcast
Trump Gaza, USAID Waste EXPOSED, FCC Investigates George Soros w/ Chris Cuomo | PBD Podcast | Ep. 545
And now you have like 937, as we were talking about earlier, your own audit, people getting separate subscriptions. That's when it gets expensive.
PBD Podcast
Trump Gaza, USAID Waste EXPOSED, FCC Investigates George Soros w/ Chris Cuomo | PBD Podcast | Ep. 545
Yeah.
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“They Want CHAOS In The Streets"– Ron Paul On Empire Collapse, Censorship & The WAR On Liberty | PBD Podcast | Ep . 565
And obviously anybody who doesn't like what you say but judges it as a function of a lack of intelligence doesn't know anything about you. I don't make that mistake. You're a smart guy. You know he's term limited. How do you think he gets another term?
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“They Want CHAOS In The Streets"– Ron Paul On Empire Collapse, Censorship & The WAR On Liberty | PBD Podcast | Ep . 565
All right, well, so you're talking about litigating this issue, because I don't want people to listen to our interview and say, Bannon's cooking up an insurrection. Bannon is cooking up—you know what I mean? I want people to get a straight take on where your head is. What are you suggesting?
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And it was really important to me when Andrew decided he was going to run that I had to go to them and say, I work for you. What do you want me to do on this? Do you want me to? I offered. Do you want me to take a leave for the pendency of the campaign? I'm not running the campaign. I'm not part of the campaign. That's not going to happen.
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But if you think, you know, I haven't lived through this before, I don't want to hurt News Nation. What you're doing is so important, way more important than me. Do you want that? Now, obviously, they said no. You're being silly and traumatized. But that was helpful also. So can Andrew win?
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Tucker and Chris Cuomo Debate JFK/Epstein Files, DOGE, Joe Rogan, NATO, Transgenderism, and DEI
Es ist nicht einfach zu tun, aber News Nation hat mich in meinem Leben ein Glück genannt. Ich wusste es nicht an der Zeit. So my brother is running for mayor. My bosses, and of course they had the benefit of going to school on what happened with me at CNN. But the embrace, the willingness and acceptance of, wow, this is great for your family. This is great for your brother.
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Well, let's defend Eric Adams, shall we? I have.
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Tucker and Chris Cuomo Debate JFK/Epstein Files, DOGE, Joe Rogan, NATO, Transgenderism, and DEI
Dann verliert er. Und du signierst für das, wenn du dich dazu entscheidest. Will ich, dass er gewinnt? Natürlich. Er ist mein Bruder. Ich wähle nicht mal in New York City. Das ist für mich eine Familie. Aber du musst nur googeln. I believe the indictment against Eric Adams was weak sauce. Yeah. And yes, I heard much, much later that they had more. They never put it out.
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An indictment is already just probable cause. It's the lowest layer of a prosecutorial instrument.
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Tucker and Chris Cuomo Debate JFK/Epstein Files, DOGE, Joe Rogan, NATO, Transgenderism, and DEI
And they charged him, but they should have brought out whatever they said they had.
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Tucker and Chris Cuomo Debate JFK/Epstein Files, DOGE, Joe Rogan, NATO, Transgenderism, and DEI
I believed it was weak sauce. Now, other people disagreed with me, that's fine. But I didn't know my brother was doing anything politically when I started my coverage of Mayor Adams. And I believe Trump's deal with him is not fair to Eric Adams. Should have pardoned him or dismissed the charges. It does seem a little like a leash. Und ich denke nicht, dass es fair ist.
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Tucker and Chris Cuomo Debate JFK/Epstein Files, DOGE, Joe Rogan, NATO, Transgenderism, and DEI
Also, du weißt, deine Kritik, deine Analyse von Hey, ich denke, er sollte andere Dinge machen. Mein Ansatz darauf ist okay, und die Verteidiger werden das entscheiden. Aber der Kerl hat den größten Gorilla der Welt, der ihn starrt, als ob er Essen ist. Und er soll sich auf seinen Job konzentrieren?
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Tucker and Chris Cuomo Debate JFK/Epstein Files, DOGE, Joe Rogan, NATO, Transgenderism, and DEI
You like it. You're going to attack it, but now that you like it, you've thought about it.
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Tucker and Chris Cuomo Debate JFK/Epstein Files, DOGE, Joe Rogan, NATO, Transgenderism, and DEI
Look, we both know the city very well, right? New Yorkers deserve their reputation. It's a tough place. Und es ist ein Ort, wo die Regeln etwas bedeuten müssen. Es sind zu viele Leute in zu kleinem Raum, um irgendetwas chaotisch zu haben. Ein bisschen Problem bricht in dieser Stadt wirklich schnell auf. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 Dinge passieren im Subway. Es sind etwa 5.000 Dinge passiert im Subway.
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Tucker and Chris Cuomo Debate JFK/Epstein Files, DOGE, Joe Rogan, NATO, Transgenderism, and DEI
Das Gefühl... becomes magnified. So, having grown up, right? I mean, I'm born and bred. I remember life in the 70s. And that's how people talk Heute. Ich denke, ich könnte einen Fall machen, dass es statistisch nicht die 70er-Jahre ist, in vielen verschiedenen Wegen, für das Bessere. Aber das ist, wie sie sich fühlen. Und ich habe nicht gehört, dass ich das gesprochen habe.
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Tucker and Chris Cuomo Debate JFK/Epstein Files, DOGE, Joe Rogan, NATO, Transgenderism, and DEI
We're excited for you guys. I like... I thought it was like a test, you know, that if I seemed okay about that, they'd be like, aha, we knew it. And the difference, the change of one conversation of them saying, well, we're with you, we support you. And I said, well, I'm going to just tell the audience, though, I'm not going to cover the race, obviously, because I'd have a conflict.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker and Chris Cuomo Debate JFK/Epstein Files, DOGE, Joe Rogan, NATO, Transgenderism, and DEI
Ich habe die Leute auf dem Subway nicht gesehen, wie ich es jetzt mache, ohne dass sie in ihren Zwanzigern sind und deshalb nicht möglich sind, von ihrem Bildschirm zu schauen, weil sie von diesen Geräten komplett zerstört worden sind. Jeder schaut jetzt auf den Subway. Wenn du auf der Straße gehst, sind deine Augen auf. People have their hands out. Just like it was when it was in the 70s.
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Tucker and Chris Cuomo Debate JFK/Epstein Files, DOGE, Joe Rogan, NATO, Transgenderism, and DEI
I remember people were afraid. When you say you're going to the city, people talk to you like you need to have a plan. And that's corrosive. It hurts property values. It hurts the corporate interest in being there. So New York is a place that uniquely needs to have that sense that things are under control. And that is not an easy job. Not an easy job. Well, it just takes a fascist.
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Tucker and Chris Cuomo Debate JFK/Epstein Files, DOGE, Joe Rogan, NATO, Transgenderism, and DEI
It's true.
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Tucker and Chris Cuomo Debate JFK/Epstein Files, DOGE, Joe Rogan, NATO, Transgenderism, and DEI
LaGuardia is the number one airport. It's my brother's signature achievement. LaGuardia is the number one airport in the country.
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I agree. But the reason I come at you about saying you need a fascist.
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Tucker and Chris Cuomo Debate JFK/Epstein Files, DOGE, Joe Rogan, NATO, Transgenderism, and DEI
That's why I'm here, Tuck.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker and Chris Cuomo Debate JFK/Epstein Files, DOGE, Joe Rogan, NATO, Transgenderism, and DEI
Yes, but here's the difference, and I know what you mean. What I'm saying is this, and it's worth examining right now with what people are worried about with the Trump administration, is... Es muss größer sein als du. Das Problem mit FAS ist, es geht nicht um dich. Es geht nicht um Trump. Es geht nicht um den Bürgermeister von New York City. Es gibt ein System. Es gibt Institutionen.
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Tucker and Chris Cuomo Debate JFK/Epstein Files, DOGE, Joe Rogan, NATO, Transgenderism, and DEI
Es gibt Gesetz und Ordnung. Und du musst darin arbeiten. Und du musst stolz sein, dass du diese Dinge für die richtigen Leute die richtige Art und Weise arbeitest. Aber es kann nicht größer werden. Das für den Einzelnen.
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Tucker and Chris Cuomo Debate JFK/Epstein Files, DOGE, Joe Rogan, NATO, Transgenderism, and DEI
Look, I think there are a lot of people who feel that way. And I could explain it away. There are a lot of things that would be really hard to control that are at play in New York City. But it doesn't really matter at the end of the day. It's how people feel. And look, I listen to my brother very carefully about this. As someone other than his kids, I mean, there's nobody...
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Tucker and Chris Cuomo Debate JFK/Epstein Files, DOGE, Joe Rogan, NATO, Transgenderism, and DEI
dass Andrew mehr zutrifft als ich. Andrew hat mich geboren. Er ist nicht nur mein Bruder. Er ist 13 Jahre älter als ich. Alles, worauf ich interessiert bin, sind seine Hobbys und Attribute. Denn er hat mir all diese Dinge beigebracht. Mein Vater war so verantwortlich für den öffentlichen Dienst, dass er viel weg war, als ich jung war. Er war in Albany. Und wir waren in Queens. Also, Andrew...
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Tucker and Chris Cuomo Debate JFK/Epstein Files, DOGE, Joe Rogan, NATO, Transgenderism, and DEI
And they were like, yeah, duh, they know that. If you feel like you have to say it, say it. And I realized, wow, they really believe in what I'm doing here and supporting me. I love that. And so there's just a really profound gratitude.
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Tucker and Chris Cuomo Debate JFK/Epstein Files, DOGE, Joe Rogan, NATO, Transgenderism, and DEI
Er hat mir gezeigt, wie man einen Ball schießen kann, wie man einen Motorrad fahren kann, wie man sich schießen kann, wie man sich verteidigen kann. Er hat mir gezeigt, warum man für seine Familie da ist und wie. Er hat mir gezeigt, warum man den Fahrrad sauber halten muss und wie man mit den Fahrrädern arbeitet. All diese Dinge, wie man Fisch, wie man Böden macht, all diese Dinge war mein Bruder.
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Tucker and Chris Cuomo Debate JFK/Epstein Files, DOGE, Joe Rogan, NATO, Transgenderism, and DEI
Also bin ich wirklich, wirklich an ihm und seinem Wohlbefinden verbunden. Und wenn du jemanden hörst, den du liebst und kümmerst, sagst du, Hey, I think I'm going to go run for office again. I've got to serve. I know why that sounds great to New Yorkers, but to me it's, you want more of that? That is the dirtiest, most unfair, savage business in the world. Es gibt keine Chance.
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Tucker and Chris Cuomo Debate JFK/Epstein Files, DOGE, Joe Rogan, NATO, Transgenderism, and DEI
Es ist, als würde er mir sagen, er wolle einen Komodo-Dragon kämpfen. Weißt du, was ich meine? Es ist so, hey, ich muss wirklich das tun. Du wirst bluten. Sie werden aktiv versuchen, dich zu schaden. Mit keinem Blick auf die Merite. Und wir nennen es das Spiel. Aber es ist wie Thunderdome. Also als jemand, der ihn liebt. Why would I be excited about him wanting to expose himself? Of course not.
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But look, when I hear him, it's like, you know, I almost tear up because it's so much like my father. My father used to describe public service. You know, my father hated that I went into the media, by the way. I'm sure my therapist could have like a whole field.
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I don't even open that box of chocolates with my therapist because I know I'd be paying for the rest of my life about just explaining that. But his problem with it was, why do you want to be part of of a group that just criticizes people who are trying to get things done when you could actually be trying to get something done. And that's why he believes in public service. Andrew is the same thing.
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He skips right past the price. Ich kann es nie überstehen. Ich würde nicht sagen, dass ich 100 Tucker Carlsons auf meinem Arsch schütteln werde, wie ein Hühnchen jeden Tag. Das wird nicht passieren. Ich werde es nicht beheben. Ich will sie immer kämpfen. Und er geht direkt über all diese Ideen, was er in dieser Kapazität tun könnte und was tun muss. Und ich bin so, ja, aber... Und? Und?
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So, I gotta support him.
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Tucker and Chris Cuomo Debate JFK/Epstein Files, DOGE, Joe Rogan, NATO, Transgenderism, and DEI
I would just want somebody else to deal with it.
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No. Because it's, look, it's such a hellscape right now. Look what works in politics. If I'm running against you for anything, okay? Die Strategie ist einfach. Wir müssen ihn zerstören. Was können wir auf ihn finden? Eigentlich funktioniert das nicht, weil Trump jetzt Präsident ist. Well, that is true. He did overcome.
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But he is he is a unicorn. Also, he is the true Teflon Don.
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That's what I was going to say, is that I think that he's more of a symptom than he is a cause. People... Die Wahlmessage war... You guys are focusing on things that don't matter to us the way you want them to. And what does matter to us doesn't matter enough to you. And what they saw in Trump were two main things. One, the personification of this.
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That you are trying to destroy this guy on a basis that we are not really okay with. And the second thing is that he wants to disrupt all the things that we believe... need disruption.
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Und dann, wie ein Jahr später, wie, oh, warte, du sprachst mit deinem Bruder, du bist verabschiedet. Ja. Es ist zu falsch. dann werde ich es sein. Und das ist passiert. Und ich habe es akzeptiert. Ich blöde CNN nicht. Das waren wirklich nur zwei Leute, die Entscheidungen über mein Leben gemacht haben. Nicht die Organisation. Ich vermisse die Leute. Ich wünsche dem Ort gut. Das ist alles wahr.
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And his views between the cancel culture and different cultural wars, as we call them, Donald Trump, for whatever you want to say about him negatively, approximated normal to the American voters more than the Democrats did.
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I can explain it to you very easily. It's readily apparent. And look, we saw the same mistake
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on display when the president addressed congress okay that is not a time for you to be obnoxious if he wants to be obnoxious fine you are there at a respect for the office there are rules of decorum in that place i believe there should be rules of decorum in all places in media and politics but there aren't but there are there and they willfully and wantedly abuse them
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to make a point that they are against Trump. And it was a bad look for the Democrats. What is it an extension of? Wir als Demokraten, sie werden dir sagen, wir resistieren, wer er abwarten will und was er zerstören will. Wie was? Trans sind eine unique Minorität in diesem Land. Sie sind einzigartig getarget. Sie brauchen Schutz. Wir werden sie schützen.
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Okay, aber dieser bestimmte Aspekt des Problems. Männer meiner Größe, die entscheiden, Frauen zu werden und gegen meine Tochter in der Hochschule zu spielen, das ist nicht das, was Sie von oder gegen sie schützen müssen. Das ist etwas, was nicht Sinn macht. Nein, wir müssen auf die Purity der Ursache der Schutz dieser Minoritätsgruppe halten. Ja, aber Sie schützen sie nicht.
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Sie schützen die Leute, die gegen sie spielen, weil sie 230 Kilo sind. Ja, das passiert fast nie. Aber wenn es einmal passiert, ist es etwas, was nie passieren musste. The purity test, the absolutist nature of binary politics, that if you are for something, you have to be all in on it beyond any conception of reason. That's what we're dealing with in our politics. That's what that is.
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It is a perversion of live and let live.
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It doesn't have to be a lie. In the interest of live and let live, which is a signature American freedom, or should be, you don't want these people to live the way they want to live. You are infringing on their rights. We will protect them. Now, Ich verstehe die politische Philosophie dahinter.
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Aber sobald es in einen Raum eingetreten ist, in dem die Leute, die du sagst, die du versuchst zu schützen, jetzt ein Problem für eine andere Gruppe sind, die auch Schutz benötigt, nämlich diese Kinder. Sie klickten nicht in den Allgemeinen Sinn.
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Es ist ein leichter legaler und moralischer Hintergang, dass die Regierung nicht in der Geschäftsordnung der Art sein sollte. Das ist einfach. Es gibt viele Dinge, die die Regierung tun sollte, die nicht notwendig sind. Ich glaube, das ist eine Abwechslung darauf, wie die Leute ihre eigenen Körper wählen und wie sie sie verwenden. Ich glaube an reproduktive Rechte. Ich denke, es ist ein Recht.
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Aber ich habe eine Verbindung mit News Nation und diesen Leuten, wo ich Angst habe, für sie zu blühen. Ich bin gespannt, dass ich es jeden Tag auf die Linie stelle. Irgendwo in der Welt. Weil...
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Jedoch sehe ich die Gay-Akzeptanz etwas anders. the difference of a generation from our kids to us is it's much safer to say that you're gay now than it was. You used to get beat up. You used to get ostracized. You used to get excluded. That happens less now. It still happens, but it happens less. Is there also... Eine kulturelle Formation, die wir sehen, wie in Amerika.
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Alles geht in diese großen Schwierigkeiten in verschiedene Richtungen. Immer Reaktion-Formation. Sind wir mehr gay-freundlich in unserer Kultur, aggressiv so, assertiv so, als wir waren, als wir growing up waren? Ja. Kann das es mehr attraktiv machen für junge Menschen, die sich anstrengen und versuchen, sich selbst herauszufinden? Vielleicht.
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Und das ist, warum ich mich erinnere, als ich in der Schule war, gab es viele Menschen, die in der Schule gay waren, die nachher nicht gay waren. Nun, viele von ihnen waren gay in der Schule und gay nachher. Aber ich denke, es gibt etwas zu experimentieren und bestimmte Menschen spielen mit Identität.
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Aber Sie haben nicht bemerkt, als Sie Ihre Kinder geboren haben, dass es bestimmte Kinder gäbe, bei denen Sie dachten, dass diese Kinder gay werden?
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I think that two things can be true. You can have that it's easier to be accepted today. Ich sage nicht, dass es das Gleiche ist. Ich glaube immer noch, dass es, wenn Menschen gay sind, der Hauptbeschreibung für sie ist. Wobei du und ich uns nicht identifizieren. Oh, Tucker Carlson, du kennst ihn, er ist ein straighter Typ. Aber wenn du gay bist, wirst du immer noch so genannt.
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Aber ich denke, zwei Dinge können gleichzeitig passieren, dass es eine Kultur der Verschwörung gibt. Let's say in a guided or misguided sense of acceptance. And I think it is safer for people to come out now than it was a generation ago.
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Wegen meiner Ausbringung und meiner Bedeutung, wenn ich weiß, dass du da bist für mich, wenn du es nicht brauchst, ist es nicht unbedingt, weißt du, es gibt viele große Namen, die du in den Medien gerade holen kannst.
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Look, it is a very persuasive argument. I don't know. It certainly hasn't been my experience in my kids' schools, public and private, that I felt that they were being indoctrinated. They didn't have Pride Week or Pride Month or Pride celebrations. I don't remember it specifically, but even if they did, let's say they did. I can't prove that right now, but let's say they did. Yeah.
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Das ist für mich nicht die gleiche Sache wie Indoktrinierung. Ich habe keine Probleme mit Jugendlichen und Kindern, die zu verschiedenen Glaubenssystemen und verschiedenen Wegen und verschiedenen Kulturen ausgewogen sind. Ich habe keine Probleme mit Toleranz. Nun, Indoktrinierung ist eine andere Arbeit.
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Well, Pride Week doesn't have to be children, right? When you have the, you know, the St. Patrick's Day parade, it's not making people be Irish. I totally agree.
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Ja, ich stimme 100% zu.
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Für NewsNation, die mir die Chance gegeben hat, es zu lassen und mich zu unterstützen, und mich zu unterstützen, wenn Andrew entscheidet, dass er im öffentlichen Service sein muss, du kannst keinen Preis drauflegen, ich könnte nie genug dankbar sein. Also, von einem Jahr her bis heute, I now know that. And there is something comforting about that. It's an ugly business. It's an ugly time.
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Nein, ich habe, ich habe dich. Ich weiß nicht, was dich interessiert. Ich sage, ihr Arbeit ist es, Kinder sicher zu halten, was bedeutet, wenn mein Kind gay ist, kann dein Kind ihn nicht schlagen. Das ist die Rolle der Schule, das ist die Rolle des Gesetzes. Die Leute müssen leben können und frei und sicher sein. Es ist anders, als wenn du mein Kind beibringen würdest, dass er gay ist.
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Wenn das passiert, wäre es natürlich ein Problem.
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You know, the idea of the deep state to me is a convenience more than it is a reality. It's a boogeyman. Why don't they put it out? Because institutions protect themselves, Tucker, as we both know. Really? And there is clearly information in those files that are going to make the CIA look bad. Just the CIA? Well, whatever.
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I mean, let's... Well, I don't know because I haven't seen it. Okay, so here's... But it could be the FBI, it could be the CIA.
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All the wrong things are being rewarded. But I'm in the right place for me.
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So, here's what I know. First of all, I don't believe that the CIA has been completely discredited. I believe in the institutions. They have to be checked. You know, the media used to be in the business of checking the institutions. Now we're in the business of, like, defending them tacitly because we have a president that attacks them all the time. But... So Mike Pompeo gets in there.
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He's in charge of the CIA. Trump says, I'm releasing the files, okay? Somebody says something to Mike Pompeo that he then goes to the President of the United States and says, you can't release these things. And Trump acknowledges it. Now, do I believe that Trump did it under threat? No. I think that Trump just decided that whatever he was being told... Made sense.
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Look, I don't disagree with the... What the hell is that? I don't know, but it's not just that, right? Now we get this weird story about the Epstein files. Like, who even cares? You know what I mean? I want it released. I believe in transparency. I think it's the route to trust. And it's not just because I'm in the media. It's just common sense. But A.G.
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Bondi, I don't have any reason to be anti-A.G. Bondi. And she says she's going to release the files. And I don't even care that they released them to their pod people. I mean, I thought that was stupid, but I mean, that's fine. They want to do what they do it. They're playing to preference. Okay. Jetzt, dann gibt es eine Geschichte über die New York FBI, die alle File erzielt haben.
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Wir werden ihn haben, wir werden diesen Jungen schießen, der supposierlich bei den meisten Händen ein ziemlich solider Kerl ist, den sie verabschiedet haben. Wo sind die File? Wo sind sie? Und weil ich dachte, Trump war der Antidot zu diesem. Und für mich ist der Herzschlag bereits gekommen und weg. UFOs für mich. ist der beste Beispiel für das, was Sie auswählen.
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Wie, you know, things are going to change and we're going to do this and da da da. After we learned that someone under his control now, right, because he's the head of the FBI, in that office that's under him, why wasn't he there? Why didn't he go there and say, give me the files? Give them to me. Weren't you just saying the deep state's not real? I don't know.
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I don't believe in the deep state as a boogeyman. But look, they're his guys. I'm just saying, why didn't he go there and say, give me the files?
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are uniquely qualified to get this answer, because one of us can call the President of the United States right now and ask him. And the other one is me. So why don't you know?
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So why don't you expose that person, first of all, so we can start chasing after her.
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Tom Cotton?
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Weil wenn du weißt, dass Tom Cotton gesagt hat, du kannst diesen Menschen nicht wählen, weil... Das ist korrekt. Und dann bist du nicht zu ihm gekommen und hast herausgefunden, warum?
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I'm not sure that he'll do an interview with me. With you? I'm waiting. You are like the spirit animal of that administration.
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Nirgendwo in deiner Leben. Es ist Teil der Politik und der Medien. Sie sind sicherlich verbunden, wenn nicht verheiratet. Und ich denke, dass die größte Frustration, die du und ich beide wissen, es gibt viele tolle Männer und Frauen, die den Job für die richtigen Gründe machen.
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Now I think you're part of the deep state.
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That's what they would do, is make me think that it exists. But you're not sure because it's actually you.
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But look, the president knows we just had an election where he was hammering on these things. And even with UAPs or UFOs, whatever terminology you want, we couldn't get more information. These things are all over the place. Sure, some are helicopters, some are fixed wing. Okay, not all of them. And they don't know. Of course they know. They spent hundreds of millions of dollars on the programs.
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And then we get all our hopes up. Right? The media loves mocking News Nation about this because they think that, oh, Cuomo thinks they're little green men in the basement of some building. No, I don't. It's about knowing that we spend hundreds of millions of dollars and use special operators to do things that you won't tell us about.
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And at a minimum, you should say, well, here's why we won't tell you. So what are they? That's exactly right. But what are they, do you think? I don't know what the fuck they are. The point is that they know and they won't tell us things. And I think it is anathema to democracy.
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He campaigned on it. It was supposed to be a no-brainer. And then they put out exactly what the Biden Organization... No, I'm aware of that.
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Well, again, these are your people. Why don't you talk to them? They love you.
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Flying over military bases. Shutting them down. Shutting down military. Yeah, and you don't shoot them down and then figure out what it was.
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Or do you have the arrogance to believe that you don't have to tell me?
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And that dichotomy, let's call it, that paradox, is really... Well, it's hypocrisy. Yes, and it's really dangerous. And look, unfortunately, it works so well, you know? If I were to cover you in any situation... und einen positiven Einfluss darauf stellen. Das ist ein Puff-Piece. Es ist schwach. Cuomo hat sich verblüfft. Er wurde von diesem fremden, lüftigen Lächeln erhoben.
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I don't know. I don't either. Look, this is the problem with the vacuum of information, right? Is that you then start speculating about why they won't just tell you these things.
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I have a conspiracy theory about it. I'm not so sure anymore. So we love the word patriot. Okay. We love it. We love to say that we're patriots. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know anymore. When I look at the Trump administration, I'm not accusing anybody of anything treasonous. I'm just saying there seems to be a lot of currency these days in destroying things.
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And I've never seen a president in our lifetime say that everything in government is bad. Trump is the only president, even his speech, which I thought was well written and well delivered for what he wanted to try to achieve, which is, hey, I got a lot of balls in the air. Forget about me promising what would happen day one. Stuff's going to get worse before it gets better.
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Kind of vibe, which I get why he wanted that speech, given what's happening in the polls. But Justice doesn't work. The elections don't work. Wall Street is corrupt. None of the institutions of government can do everything. All the tax dollars are wasted. It's like I keep getting the same message from them and Musk to me. Ich glaube, der Mann ist ein Genie. Er hat unglaubliche Dinge gemacht.
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Er weiß nicht, dass die föderale Judiziarie die Exekutive beurteilen kann. Er weiß nicht, dass die Social Security, der Trust Fund, nicht Teil unserer Debtstruktur ist. I can't believe a genius doesn't know these things. So then why would he be messaging this way? Unless he doesn't want people to like the justice system. He doesn't like people to want social security.
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He doesn't want them to believe that government can do anything. And I don't understand that as a political message from a guy who's in charge of everything now. And what is underlying it in terms of your real ambition?
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37?
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Well, get the spending down has to be in the budgeting process. To me, it's a penny-wise-pound-foolish notion. I'm okay with getting rid of waste, fraud and abuse. You and I grew up. listening to both parties argue, when the other one was in power, that there was all this waste, fraud and abuse. And you had to curtail it. And I know it's true. It's always been true.
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Nobody has ever looked for it and failed to find it. I'm okay with them doing that. But I'll tell you what. If they had called up Carlson and Cuomo and said, would you guys like to serve your country and see what you can find in terms of waste, fraud and abuse? And we said, yes. I'll tell you what we wouldn't do. Is...
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going off half-cocked every day about what we were finding when we weren't sure. We would not do that. We would have immediately come to an agreement. Yeah, we'd probably get... Let's look, let's find stuff, okay? And then we're going to go to Congress and we're going to say, look at all this shit we found. And because we don't trust them, we would then go public with it as well at the same time.
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Und wenn ich dann sage, ich habe mit Tucker gesessen und als ich es wusste, hat der Teufel gespawnt. Oh, das war ein hart hängendes Piece. Er kam wirklich hin.
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I'm fine with it working. I want it to work. I feel like he's working against his own goals by getting things wrong all the time.
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Die Kommodität ist die Negativität. Wenn du ein hartes Journalist sein willst, dann sagst du lieber etwas Negatives über jemanden. Es ist eine Proxy für Insight.
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And he just happened to start with the agency that's investigating him.
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This was before anything happened. Look, I'm just saying, you and I wouldn't have picked an agency that was looking into one of us without letting people know that. I'm not even aware of that.
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So do you believe that the answer is to change the institutions, to destroy the institutions? What do you think the answer is?
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That's why we have to make our kids travel, because everybody thinks America is the worst place in the world until you go somewhere else. Dude, yes.
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That's why I'm a little worried about all the bashing of our institutions. Reform? Sure. Do it better? Do it differently? Do it less? Do it more? Whatever it is? Sure. But the idea that... There is no more justice in America. I don't believe that. All the elections are rigged. I don't believe that. You know, we can't function. It's demonstrably false.
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Und ich dachte mir, ich kümmere mich nicht. Na, schau, du bist in einer einzigen Position, richtig? Weil, erstens, du hast keinen Boss. Zweitens, die Medien sind bereits nicht dein Freund. Du denkst das nicht. Also musst du niemanden beeindrucken.
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So making things better is fine if you have the ideas and the wherewithal to make it happen. But what I'm sensing from this administration is it's all broken, tear it all down. And that's easy to say. Aber ich weiß nicht, ob es gut ist. Es ist eigentlich einfach zu tun.
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Wir hatten eine oppressive Kraft. Interessant ist, und das ist etwas, was ich sehr aufmerksam bin, um es Ihnen zu erklären. So I get fired and I'm watching the Ukraine war. And it was personally maddening to me because I had not covered a conflict since I got involved in the business. So I'm watching. The whole country is behind Ukraine. When did you get fired? Right there, like 2021.
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When did I get fired? So right when the Ukraine war broke out, I was fired and it was a real reinforcer to me about how much I had lost. But anyway, I was much more concerned about what was happening in Ukraine. So everyone's on board. There are blue and yellow ribbons all over my neighborhood. I was not on board at all. Well, the country was. The Republicans were and the Democrats were.
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And I kept hearing, boy, you know, it's like they're kind of like us. They're fighting against this oppressor and trying to shut it off so they can be their own way and get away from the kleptocracy and everything else. Und dann hat Trump das schlechte Telefonanruf mit Zelensky und führt zu einem Anruf, das ich dachte, war ein kompletter Wartezeit. Sie werden ihn nie wieder entfernen.
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Und es ist eine politische Operation, also wusste ich nicht, warum sie es gemacht haben. Aber das ist ihre Wahl. Sie sind ihre Weg gegangen. Dann kommt Biden rein. Jeder macht immer noch das, was er gemacht hat, um die Ukraine zu helfen. Biden macht es langsam, gibt ihnen nicht das, was sie brauchten. Der falsche Art von Ambivalenz.
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Jetzt kommt Trump zurück und plötzlich sagen alle Leute, die die Ukraine auf der rechten Seite favorieren, dass es eine Kleptokratie ist und Zelenskyy ein schlechter Typ ist. Und Putin... You know, not so bad. Russia, not so bad. Their concerns about NATO, pretty justified. It's really NATO and America that has done the wrong thing here and forced Russia's hand.
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And Ukraine and Zelensky kind of did too and they're really dirty and they're stealing all our money and selling all our stuff. I don't believe any of it. And I hear it all the time. You are a big purveyor of this and I want to understand it. How did everything change this way?
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You can do whatever you want to do. And there's a lot of freedom in that. And of course, there are challenges of you having to support yourself and find opportunities and build your own infrastructure. There's a lot of entrepreneurial stuff that you and I never had to deal with before. That's for sure. So you can just have a conversation with him. Because...
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What does bad even mean? Russia bad means they are consistently invested in what's bad for America. Putin is a constant... Well, they certainly are now.
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was wrong, what they did. And Ukraine did not start that war. The whole thing was wrong.
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But NATO isn't inherently an enemy. It is to protect against. the illegal and wrongful annexation of sovereigns.
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They're not sovereign. Ukraine is a sovereign, as you know. In what way? Russia had put a puppet in. There was a democratic revolution there that Zelensky wound up winning that election, second round of voting. That was to remove the Russian puppet who went back with a lot of money into Russia. No, you're...
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Die Medien wissen nicht, was sie mit digitalen und unabhängigen Medien zu tun haben. Der Instinkt war es, es zu verschulden. Oh, natürlich. But now that we're realizing in our society, and I'm very excited about it, power is shifting back to people and from institutions. And that's really uncomfortable for some people.
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No, but I'm saying Maidan Square was a reaction to a Russian puppet regime in that country. That's what they were against.
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But we don't have nuclear weapons on the border. The only nuclear weapon... Well, really? So NATO doesn't have... In Ukraine? No. Okay. Their concern was... And Ukraine used to have a lot of nukes and they agreed to get rid of them on the basis of protection from Russia. Those were Soviet nukes.
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Es ist schrecklich, was wir gemacht haben. Und das war für sie ein weiteres Problem. Ich war in der Ukraine, als die russischen Separatisten das Flugzeug der Malaysianer Airlines zerstörten, darüber lachen, die Körper nicht zurückbekommen lassen würden. Es war das ganze Ding. Putin hat einen Jungen namens Borowski installiert, der wohl der Bundespräsident von Donetsk war.
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I think the Democrats are in a weird place where they seem like, which is such anathema as Mario Cuomo's kid, he was so anti-establishment, but they seem pro-establishment, defenders of the status quo. And I think that's a really dangerous place to be right now, because I think power is shifting towards being disruptive of institutions and Vielen Dank.
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Es war alles Bullshit, weil das Putin ist. Also wollten sie Hilfe. Sie wollten sauber bleiben. Amerika hat ihnen mit dem geholfen. Und jetzt plötzlich ist Zelensky ein Verbrecher. They're stealing all our money. They're selling all our weapons to Mexican cartels. None of these things are true. Well, that is true. Why? No, it is not true.
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Give me the point of it and then we can talk in particular.
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Zelenskyy würde sagen, er wurde demokratisch ausgewählt.
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I don't know. We just went through the same thing in this country. Sounds like dictatorship, by the way. No, but he's not a dictator. Then by what authority does he rule Ukraine? So here's how. He was elected, and now, under their constitution, he does have the ability to stall elections and operate under martial law during the conflict.
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He doesn't want an election. You're from a political family. It's the same thing with Israel right now. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay.
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I don't know that it's about lying about it. I don't agree that those are facts. You don't believe that the Ukrainian military...
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Well, first of all, you would have to substantiate, you know, who it is that you knew because...
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You cannot substantiate a claim on the basis of mere suspicion. It's not mere suspicion! I know something! Ich glaube, dass du das denkst. Was ich sage, ist, dass ich sage, dass du weißt, dass sie es sagen. Du weißt nicht, ob sie es gemacht haben. Und ich werde dir sagen, warum ich bescheuert bin. Weil die Missilien, die Russland diese Bilder ausgab, waren aus dem Jahr 2014.
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Und sie hatten damals nicht mal Javelins. So the idea that Ukraine could have been selling weapons that were taken from a different time as an obvious ploy by Russia to make them look bad is to me propaganda and not proof that they did it. Are you texting while I'm having a conversation with you?
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Tucker, I'm not saying you're lying. I'm saying I'm disagreeing that it's a fact that the military there is spending weapons that they very much need to Mexican cartels. Why does Mexico's cartels need to get weapons from Ukraine when they get them across our border with straw buyers all the time?
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I mean, to me, it doesn't even make sense from a practicality standpoint, but it seems like... Straw buyers?
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Small arms, you know, small arms you can buy anywhere. No, no, no, I'm talking about weapons systems. But this is not documented stuff, and it seems to want to smear Ukraine and make them the bad guy and make Russia the good guy.
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I don't want you to expose a source.
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What I'm saying is, look, people do bad things with money that we give them.
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And you think Zelensky is a bad guy who's a dictator?
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And why hasn't it been documented?
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Look, my point is not to frustrate you, Tucker. It's to understand this mentality of framing Ukraine and Zelensky as the bad guy.
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But also, people are realizing that they can reach out and get different versions of events and takes on things in a way that they couldn't before. And I think that's really exciting and the media doesn't know what to do with it.
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U.S. military is not in the ground. Yes, there are. Look, I know that there are... What are you talking about? They're not actively fighting Russian forces.
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We have bio labs. And we're about to have more of a footprint because the mineral deal will put American companies on the ground in those areas that are right now war zones.
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Like, why are we doing this? So do you believe that we should just back out of what we're doing there now and let Russia take it? Russia take it?
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See, I saw it the other way, which is we thought Russia was going to roll over Ukraine and they have been unable to really move the line.
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See, I feel that the division... Ist Forst in this country that to me it seems pretty basic that Russia can't have Ukraine because it doesn't stop. What are we going to do? It doesn't stop it.
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I don't say that it's a fact because we are not fighting in earnest in that country.
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Well, I don't know that Russia is fighting for its life.
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Like, actually, what are our options? The options are what President Trump is doing right now, which is to try to get the parties to the table and draw a line in the sand and make a deal. That's the only option I see. I don't see any other options. But I'd love to hear what they are. No. I mean, there's never any other option. Unless you want to actively fight... and take territory and occupy.
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Who's going to actively fight? There are no Ukrainians left. Well, look, both sides are manpower poor, right? You know the stories about Russia emptying the prisons. Russia has 100 million more people.
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100 million more people. But have you ever heard of us emptying out the prisons? Why does he have to do that? He's in a desperate place.
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The point is... You think Putin is concerned about his popularity in a place where he kills all of his opponents on a regular basis?
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Really? When he completely engineers the outcome of everything that happens in the country?
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First of all... You know how lousy life is there for people, right? And not just because of the economic sanctions right now. It just has been. Have you been there recently? Recently, no.
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Ja, sicherlich Rogan. Aber alle von ihnen.
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Oh, me too.
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But there's a reason he made that deal with North Korea to have their people backing him up on the battle lines.
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Sie ist Serious XM. Sie war Fox, wie Sie wissen. Sie arbeitete nicht für sie bei NBC, was wirklich keine Überraschung war, dass jemand da war. Being a network anchor, being a storyteller, being a host that is accommodative of broad audiences that are looking to be inoffensive. That's a very different skill set that she clearly was going to struggle with. So I wasn't surprised by that.
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Do you really think that America was putting the full force of its might into that situation? Short of nuclear conflict, yes. Zelenskyy has done nothing but complain about us not giving them what they needed. We gave them like high Mars, everything we're giving them. I mean, you know, because you've been studying the situation.
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I've been there twice during the conflict and it's like World War I level warfare there. So it's not like we're using our most, now they're using drones from like retail.
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They were digging trenches. Yeah, now there's been an infusion of drone technology that they're using.
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But you don't think that's true for Russia, that they don't look really weak because they couldn't roll over Ukraine? They said it would be done in three days.
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It's bombing residential areas. It's going after infrastructure where they know civilians are. So it's not like they're holding out.
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So, it gives me no particular joy to say this, but you were right. Well, okay. Don't get used to it. It's the last time you'll hear it in this conversation. Du hast gesagt, gib dir Zeit, verabschiede dich von dem, was du tust, und schaue nicht nach der Aufmerksamkeit, wo du warst. Ja. Und das war wirklich gute Hinweise.
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But it's not a debate. I'm just saying that it seems that the line has shifted and now Ukraine is the bad guy.
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But she's SiriusXM. Now Rogan is Spotify. But he built that all himself.
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I think that you're headed in the right direction now, because I believe that... If you support the war, go pay for it, go fight it. That complaint that the wealthy and powerful are feeding off the rest of us, I think is the one untapped reservoir of populist sentiment in this country. I don't think we're allowed to say that.
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Well, we have a system where the corporations get to do whatever they want with the money that they make. And they get to work the system to pay as little as possible into the rest of us. They still pay more. And obviously the taxes are paid more by the wealthy than by those who aren't wealthy, but we find ways around it.
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Und die Regierung subsidiert dann diese gleichen Unternehmen, obwohl sie ihre eigenen Arbeiter nicht kümmern. Und ich denke, dass die Powerful die Möglichkeit haben, unsere Regierung zu leverieren, ist die Hauptwaffe, die wir haben müssen. Also haben Sie, sagen wir mal, Walmart ist ein großartiges Beispiel.
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Sie haben mehr von ihren Leuten auf Snap als Prozent, ihre Arbeiter, als irgendeine andere Firma. Yet they're making a lot of money. And then what would we say? Well, they're allowed to give it to their shareholders. That's capitalism. Oh, but we, Tucker Carlson and Chris Cuomo, have to subsidize your workers. I think that that's the main fight. Now, obviously, it's not Ukraine.
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But what I'm saying is rich people imposing their will on the US government to do what they want for them. is a real thing.
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And not just Walmart, it's all of them.
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Well, it's capitalism.
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Wir haben auf ihn Sanktionen gesetzt. Ja, das ist das neue Wort in der amerikanischen Vernachlässigkeit. Und ich bin okay damit.
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In der gleichen Weise. All the tech bros, which I think is a really benign and casual label for these guys, he's doing everything that we're supposed to be worried about happening in this society right now. And again, I'm not anti-Elon Musk. I'm not. I think he's a genius. And I just... I think that there are things that are happening right now.
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What do you mean you're against immigration?
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We are presently realizing... So there was that big wave of deals that you and I missed in the podcast space, where people were just throwing money to have a footprint in it, right? Rogan was the biggest of those deals, right? But... Then it went away. And when I got into it, I'm all self-financed. Because, well, I was damaged goods.
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It's how we've populated the country.
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I'm really worried about it. Look, I understand that you're worried about it and I understand why you would be, right?
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No, it's not preached to me.
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But not the last 20. Not the last 20. I don't think you can look at immigration as an unprecedented bad in America. It is America. Otherwise, you don't have one. Not at this scale.
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But even if you wanted to look at the people, even if you want to say there are 15 million people who aren't supposed to be here, they all came in illegally. Okay. One, you see how easier it is to say that than to do something about it, right? Because he was going to come in and round them all up. But it's an unsolvable problem.
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Well, the question is, is it a problem or is it a challenge and it is a mixed bag? You have 7 million open jobs in the country that are necessary. What does that tell you? You don't have enough people to fill them. Okay. So that means that the 15 million people haven't taken everybody's jobs and saturated the market.
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It's a legitimate political question.
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Well, it's not that they're subsidizing not to work. Why are you subsidizing them at all? Because that's what I'm saying. It's a political decision. They decided to do that. You could decide not to do that. Now, they don't get Social Security benefits. Very often you'll hear... Well, they're young people.
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But you have a third of... And again, these are all rough estimates, because your point about tracking, we don't do this well here either. You have a third, let's say, maybe close to a half of illegal entrants working in this country whose employers pay into Social Security for them. No, I know all these numbers. They do not get any of the benefits of that.
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Right, so we should be grateful to the Haitians. No, no, no, not grateful. But you gotta see it as a mixed bag. It's not they are a little demon seed running around.
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But people weren't looking to just throw money at a podcast because no one was making money on those deals. It was like relearning the Howard Stern lesson. That they paid him all that money at SiriusXM. And it's like, you know, what was the yield? Now... Different people are starting to buy up podcasts that are traditional media companies.
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Now hopefully there's, again, an equilibrium that is achieved over time, but... You don't think Trump made a boogeyman of illegal entrants in this country by saying they're the bad hombres, they're all bringing the murders. You know that the crime rate among that population isn't the same as the native population. A single crime by an illegal alien is unacceptable.
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Illegal immigration is unacceptable.
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Das ist nur ein Fakt. Aber es gibt auch viele Minderheiten im Militär. Man könnte auch sagen, dass das eine ihrer letzten Wege zur Equality ist.
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Aber die meisten der Leidenschaftsklasse sind diese Leute.
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And they are the seed capital behind the private equity behind those organizations are starting to buy up these properties.
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So you don't understand what it is to be American anymore? Will you tell me? We've got 350 million people here. What unites them? The opportunity. What opportunity? Economic opportunity? Opportunity to live a life of your own making, to succeed or fail on your own merits.
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Es wurde zerstört. War es zerstört, als Frauen das Votieren gegeben haben? Of course not. In the 60s. So it's been 60 years. So the point is, look, I get that. I get what the frustration with DEI was. I understand.
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And anyone who did was called a racist. Listen, I get the cancel culture concerns. It's not cancel culture. It's like fundamental, dude. Since we don't have that. No, I'm saying being called racist for saying what you just said is a function of cancel culture. It's unfair. But what I'm saying is this. You didn't have minorities being given the opportunities because they were minorities.
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That was something that America wanted to correct because it is the opposite of equality. And it was the same with women. And that's what you should be trying to do. Not to the exclusion of anyone else, not to the exclusion of merit, but you don't want people held back because of who or what they are.
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They're not controlled. Yes. Now, I struggle with that a little bit. That absolutely can be true. And again, Taibbi, Schellenberger, okay? Yeah. But I don't dismiss, and Barry Weiss, I don't like leaving her out. Free Press is a really cool thing that she's building there.
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I mean, that's kind of what it is. There is a little bit of who and how the system gets worked, but... I would disagree that it has been destroyed. I would disagree that because you still have whites in dominant positions everywhere that you can measure.
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And when you see... of what diversity does to them.
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I'm not referring to that study, but I remember what you're talking about. There's no study that shows hiring people on the basis of skin color makes a company more effective. Not on the basis of skin color. It's that you remove the restriction.
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That you won't hire them as often because of their skin color.
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And I like that she's able to do something that I never saw at a news organization before, which is, she's decidedly pro-Israel, okay? She's Jewish, and beyond her own cultural and religious affinity, she has an ideological one. And she owns it and she's out there for it. You may disagree. That's okay.
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You're ignoring the impact of the Trump administration, which has been... Well, it's been six weeks. I know, but I'm saying, you strip it out, you'll see what happens. I don't think diversity is our problem. And standardized testing, I don't have a problem with it.
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I'm not saying you did. I'm stating it as a proposition. What I'm saying is that the testing assumes equal starting points. If you and I are both going to take a standardized test right now in an area that I am prepared for and you're not, dann werden wir nicht das Gleiche tun. Dann bitte vorbereiten. Ich meine, ich weiß nicht, was zu sagen ist. Was ist eine bessere Art, das zu tun?
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Ich sage nicht, dass es eine bessere Art ist. Ich sage, dass ich kein Problem mit Standardisiertem Testen habe. Ich habe kein Problem mit SATs und Leuten, die sie benutzen, um in Bildungsinstitutionen zu kommen. Ich habe kein Problem damit. Ich sage, dass man auch offen zu der Realität sein muss, dass die Kinder nicht das Gleiche auf dem Test machen werden, wenn einer eine gute Bildung hat und
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But you know, whereas what the world that you and I grew up in media wise, they had all these opinions, but you'd never know it. You know what I mean? You'd have to glean it from what you saw on camera. Nobody ever came out and said it, you know, that we think that this is right. We think this is wrong. Very, very rarely. So what I like about it is.
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I don't think the point is... I don't think you have to do it that way, is what I'm saying. And I understand... If I can't get into college, if two people apply to college...
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Das ist genau richtig. Was mich interessiert an dem Fall ist, dass es nicht weiße Menschen waren. It was Asian people who were saying that they were being discriminated against.
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So I'm for free speech because I'm against slavery. But it's also it's not a coincidence that people of color, specifically African-American, are at a different socioeconomic level, given how they were introduced to the country. Right? Because race is completely fabricated. There is no such thing as race. We made it up. I don't even know what you're talking about.
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You cut open a black guy and a white guy, their genetics are the same. We made race. We made race. We made it. We made it a thing. Just because you look different doesn't mean you're a different species. So we created it. No one's saying anyone's a different species. I'm not saying that you are. I think we may be getting into science still too deep. I'm saying the science is very simple.
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She created race.
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Of course genetics is real. Genetics is everything. What I'm saying is that race... So genetics is everything, but race is fake.
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Irisch und Italiener sind unterschiedliche Kulturen, richtig? Aber sie sind die gleichen Menschen. Sie sind einfach unterschiedliche Kulturen. Sie sprechen unterschiedliche Wege, essen unterschiedliche Dinge.
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I doubt it.
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I believe that there's space for all of it, okay? When I got into this business 25 years ago, they told me, you know network news is dead, right? The number one show on television is World News Tonight. So the idea that it's dead, it's not dead, it's just changing and there's stratification. But I do think there's a challenge afoot.
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So what you're saying doesn't make any sense at all. But that doesn't mean it's genetic. It's just where people decide to be.
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I know, but I'm saying that having... And neither is height or eye color or IQ. Having more redheads in Italy is not just about genetics. It's about where people populate. Right? Like you could take a huge, like look at Sicily, right? Look at the history of Sicily. When North Africa winds up being there, right?
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And in power, you wind up having that mixed into the chemistry of everybody who's Sicilian. Because genetics are real.
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But race as a thing, we created.
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Well, Slavery war ein Zeitpunkt, in dem es eine ziemlich heftige christliche Influenz gab.
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You don't want to create differences. You want to create similarities. Well, there are differences, but you want to find commonalities. Yes, and I think that, look, that's what the land of opportunity is all about.
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People in every different platform have to reconnect with their constituency. Trust is at an all-time low with every kind of institution. Now, within that is a burden for the media, but also an opportunity. That's why I'm so excited that I may have been in the wrong place at other phases in my career, but I'm in the right place right now, because News Nation is like one...
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Fuck you, actually. I get all the metaphysical aspects of it. It's the core of it. But what I'm saying is, when you discover that women aren't given the opportunities because they're women, or blacks aren't given opportunities because they're black, in America, that's something that we see as corrective.
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And our politics. I mean, look, the Trump administration, which I think is a very interesting aspect about our conversation. Think about it. You and I have sat together, I don't know how long, if it goes past like that, but... We haven't even talked about anything in the news, really.
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And I love it, but I'm saying that's the beauty, right? That's the beauty of the forum, of the freedom, of what we're able to do here, which you would never be able to do just by time, let alone by subject inclination. We are very divided. And we are divided in ways that I haven't experienced before. I agree. Und ich denke, dass eine große Teil davon ist, dass es funktioniert.
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Es funktioniert für Menschen, die Macht wollen und um Macht zu behalten. Die Dividende verkauft diese Tage. Und vielleicht hat es immer geklappt. Und deshalb wissen wir, was ein Demagog ist. Aber es gibt keinen positiven Gegensatz, den die Griechen uns gegeben haben. Es ist einfach, auf die Menschen zu spielen. Aber wenn ich die Trump-Administration sehe, kam er rein. Fomenting division.
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And I thought it was a very tricky sell for him because if what I hear about him is true, which is he wanted to win again because of legacy mode and be remembered is great. You can't be great as a divider. There's no American figure in our history who was great because they were a divider.
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Pebble on the beach at a time of, hey, everybody's going crazy about this. Not us. Tariffs are kind of scary and they can hurt prices. But Trump does this and he's looking to get something done. Let's not microanalyze him saying tariffs like this is definitely going to happen this way forever. And let's see what happens. News Nation, we're allowed to do that. Most outlets have to pick a side.
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I can't think of anything that the administration is telling us is good and works in our society. Well, let me put it this way.
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Ich denke, du solltest es sein.
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You shouldn't just be ashamed because of how people see you.
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I agree. And I also, look, I also agree that we're seeing things that we haven't seen in ways. Some of it is because we have reach, right? Because we have so much more media now and ability for things to be seen technologically. But we also do have und einen wachsenden Niveau der Aufmerksamkeit von destruktiven und negativen Ideen.
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Was mich bedroht hat, und mein großer Witz ist, Gott sei Dank gab es noch einen 9-11. Would we come together? I want to say yes. I don't know. Certainly I know how President Trump would handle it. And it would not be the way President Bush did.
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Tariffs. Best thing, like Fox News. Tariffs are great. We can't wait. This is gonna be great. It's gonna unleash the economy. Get rid of the income tax. MSNBC. This is the worst. It's gonna crush the economy. You gotta have a take. You gotta have a side. NewsNation ist in der Lage, die Independent-Mentale zu harnessen. Es gibt ein Plus und ein Minus daran, richtig?
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And yet, here's a counterfactual. What do we see happening in Europe right now that isn't happening here? Them having huge numbers of Muslims from different ethnic extracts in that part of the globe coming into societies, not assimilating. I agree. That's certainly what the French are dealing with and what the UK is dealing with to a little bit of a lesser extent. In America...
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Yes, we're farther away, but it hasn't happened. Muslims come into this country. It's one of two countries on the face of the planet that have more Jews than Muslims. It probably won't stay that way. But when they come into this country, they assimilate. And we don't do what the French allowed, which is to have them all living together and separate from the rest of the society.
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America is about assimilation.
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Oh, ja. Aber was wollten meine Großeltern? Be American. Exactly. No, but that's exactly right. Speak the language. Be American. They were discouraged from speaking Italian, except in the house, because my grandparents didn't speak English. Exactly.
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Do you believe directionally this administration is going the right way?
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Und wir werden es hier sehen, richtig? Es wird ein bisschen Aufmerksamkeit geben, richtig? Und ich liebe diesen Raum. Es ist schwieriger, es ist viel schwieriger, als zu sagen, ich hasse Trump oder Trump wurde von Jehova gesendet. Sie wissen, das sind viel einfacher Positionen. But I believe in the potential.
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That seems like suicidal to me. I think it is. I think that the biggest question and look, I don't have the answer. But the biggest question is how to unify, how to take your fingers and make them into a fist. Yes. Zwei Monate nach 9-11. Ich habe mich 11 Tage nach 9-11 engagiert, weil ich 9-11 hatte. Weil ich die Bedeutung des Lebens bemerkt habe. Und ich dachte, das würde immer passieren.
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Ich dachte, es wäre das neue Normal. Ich dachte das auch. Und meine Schwester hat die eine schlechte Entscheidung gemacht, die sie gemacht hat, seit ich sie kennengelernt habe, und das war, dass sie mich verheiratet hat. War das ein schwieriger Fall? Oh yeah, if it hadn't been 9-11, she would have never said yes. You leveraged a terror attack to win it.
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She could get out of it now on the basis of impossibility of contract because of duress. So when I saw, like for me, like even like a January 6th to me was, we don't all come down on the side of what is right and wrong collectively anymore. You know, that when George Floyd happened. People going down the streets in protest, they're going to be angry, they're going to say angry things.
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It's not going to be peaceful in terms of speech. Okay. Destroying buildings, and that's okay. Taking over cities, and that's okay. Not okay. We should have all felt that way. We always had until that point.
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January 6th. You don't do that. You don't go busting into the Capitol. Everybody should have been on the same page. Instead, it was, well, what about George Floyd and the Black Lives Matter stuff? That type of discontinuity is very unsettling to me. We all know what's right and wrong. auf sehr grossen Niveaus, okay?
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Und wenn du diese Dinge für Vorteile ignorierst, beginnst du, in eine gefährliche Situation zu kommen. Ich weiß nicht, ob wir das tun.
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Richtig, aber hier ist die Unterschiede. Und in Bezug auf, was es ist, Amerika zu sein. What is our national religion?
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It is the law. The law is our natural religion. Religion is a set of rules, right? You have faith, you have faith, I have faith, I choose to have faith. I can't prove there's a basis of my faith, but I choose it. Religion ist eine Reihe von Regeln. Unsere Reihe von Regeln ist das Gesetz. Das ist das, was dich in diesem Land verbindet. Das ist, weshalb es so wichtig ist.
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Das ist, weshalb Politiker es so viel lieben, wie sie es tun. Weil sie wissen, dass es die essentielle Farbe ist, dass du Gerechtigkeit unter dem Gesetz hast. Also, Abortion, reproduktive Rechte, wie auch immer du es nennen willst. Du kannst es fühlen, wie auch immer du es fühlen willst. Ich kann es fühlen, wie auch immer ich es fühlen möchte. Then we have the law.
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Right now the law is, you decide state by state. Okay? It is the first reversal of a right in our lifetime. Where a right had been recognized and then removed. That was very politically destabilizing, I thought. Turned out not to be in the election. Turned out, it wasn't the midterms. I mean, no, we had the Volstead Act.
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You had a right to run for president.
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That is different than... Because it doesn't have an organized, screechy, unhappy lady lobby. No, no, no. How many terms you have as president is... It's guaranteed under the Constitution.
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I agree.
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But you can amend the Constitution. Well, that's what I'm saying.
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Das ist verrückt. I'm just saying there are plenty of states... That is a more generous assessment to people who believe in reproductive rights than the law had been on Roe v. Wade.
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So, I mean... Late-term abortions are almost not a thing. They happen incredibly infrequently.
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No, but I'm saying that statistically, the idea that we had to focus on late-term abortion was pure politics.
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But what about human rights? What about natural rights that are bestowed by God that aren't supposed to be infringed on by men? Isn't one of those the control and sanctity of your own body?
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I don't think that's, I mean, I'm not the Yale Law School graduate here, but I'm not, I would... They don't teach you about God-given rights in law school because that's... That's our founding document is God-given rights. But that's not a secular understanding. Okay.
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The Constitution does not mention God. The Declaration of Independence does. Oh, sure, but that's not our operative document. The Constitution is. And our Constitution does not mention God. Nothing is predicated on God except the separation of church and state. We don't identify... So how are the rights in the Bill of Rights, how are the rights... Articulated. Explained.
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As a function of the collection. Especially the Bill of Rights, which you just referred to, because they sent it out to the states and the states came back with their recommendations. We say they're God-given, but the problem with that is you live in a secular society. So what if somebody doesn't believe in God? Do they not have rights? Of course they do. Of course they do.
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They're attached by the collective.
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Hier ist, mit dem ich kämpfe. Unsere Jurisprudenz hat sich in die gegenseitige Richtung gewechselt als unsere Kultur. Unsere Kultur hat sich ein wenig mehr mit dem, was die Leute sprechen, interessiert. Das ist Kanzelkultur, sensorisch. Die Gesetzgebung hat sich geändert.
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Wenn man sich an Szaplinski in der 1920er, 1940er-Jurisprudenz anschaut, sagten sie an der Supreme Court-Level, dass die Erste Amendment nicht für Tucker Carlson geschaffen wurde, um herauszufinden, wie man so dumm wie möglich zu Chris Cuomo sagen kann und sich davon verteidigen kann.
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Nein, ich bin da, um es zu sagen.
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Und dann gab es das Wort-Fighting-Doktrin, das heißt, hey, Tucker Carlson kann auf Chris Cuomo aufstehen und etwas über seine Mutter sagen und erwarten, dass er nicht einen Schluck in den Nase bekommt. Und dann haben sie es noch mehr aufgewandelt. Und dann haben sie gesagt, naja, man kann nicht, äh, sagen, Feuer in einem kräftigen Theater.
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Ja, man kann es wahrscheinlich unter der Supreme Court-Law. Es gibt einen neuen Test, ob es sinnvoll ist, Gewalt zu erzeugen. So they kept expanding the rights. So the First Amendment, jurisprudentially, from the Supreme Court, has been getting broader and broader. And I wonder if it has come with a culture cost.
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And I don't like to look at Mike Tyson as any kind of philosophical basis, but he said once... Social Media has made people forget that sometimes what comes out of your mouth is going to get you punched in the face. That's right.
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Meine Bossen sind sehr besorgt, dass du Agendas erweckst, die du nicht erklärst. Me or one? Me. You know what I mean? If you come to News Nation, then yes, you too. But right now, it's, you know, hey, look, if you feel that way, you better say it. Don't just stack your show with guests that are all on one side of something and then pretend you're fair. Don't do that. Yeah, be transparent.
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And I do wonder these days, maybe it's the angry old man in me coming out, but do you think we've gone too far in allowing things to be okay to be said, not as political thought, but as invective, as insults, and how people are allowed to treat each other now. And if I do anything about it, if you do anything about it, You're the one in trouble.
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I saw something happen. People are going to get angry at me about this. But by the way, I think that as much as this is remarkable for people, I don't care about why people are interested in you and I talking to each other. I know it's part of the solution. And it doesn't matter.
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People can listen to this and think everything that we both just said is completely a waste of the time that they spent watching it. I'm okay with that. Ich weiß immer noch, dass es ein Teil davon ist. Denn wenn wir zwei verschiedene Orte arbeiteten, hätten wir das niemals tun können. Und ein Teil davon, dass wir in diesen Orten arbeiteten, war, dass wir uns gegenseitig verteidigen.
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Und du warst viel besser daran, als ich war, übrigens. Ich bin wirklich ein Arschloch, tief unten. Es ist nicht so tief. Aber was ich sage, ist, dass ich weiß, dass wir das nicht tun sollen. Und wir sind einige der Einzigen, die das tun. Und ich freue mich auf dich und respektiere dich dafür. Ich liege in einem Ort, an dem ich gerne in die Sommerzeit gehen würde. Und es gibt Maga-Hats überall.
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Ein Mann in einem Maga-Hat ist ein wenig trank, ein wenig davon, und kommt mit jemandem rein, der keinen Maga-Hat hat. Und schließlich schmackt der Mann ohne den Maga-Hat den Mann auf den Kopf. Der Mann wird wütend und schmackt den Mann, der ihn auf den Kopf geschmackt hat.
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Tucker and Chris Cuomo Debate JFK/Epstein Files, DOGE, Joe Rogan, NATO, Transgenderism, and DEI
Um, die Polizisten kommen, die Maga-Hack-Mann verabschieden, weil er den anderen Mann im Gesicht geschlagen hat und es waren all diese anderen Leute da. Und ich war going to talk about it on the show and didn't, because I realized that what I was going to say was not embracing of the law. aber für mich fühlte es sich so aus, als ob etwas richtig in der Situation wäre.
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Tucker and Chris Cuomo Debate JFK/Epstein Files, DOGE, Joe Rogan, NATO, Transgenderism, and DEI
Und ich habe es nie wirklich herausgefunden. Ich könnte 100 verschiedene Argumente geben, was richtig ist und was falsch ist. Aber wie ich fühle, ist, als der Kerl den Hat von der anderen Person aus dem Kopf schmackte, Es scheint mir zu sein, dass es nicht mehr falsch war als der Kerl, der ihn zerstört hat. Es sah nicht so aus, als hätte er hohe Grundlage. Du hast den Kopf des Kerls ausgeschlagen.
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Tucker and Chris Cuomo Debate JFK/Epstein Files, DOGE, Joe Rogan, NATO, Transgenderism, and DEI
Vorher war es so. Und es gab viel Schleimhaut, die zurück und zurück ging. Er zerstört den Kopf. Der Kerl zerstört ihn. Er hat ihn nicht mit einem 2x4 geschlagen. Aber er hat ihn geschlagen. Er hat ihn geöffnet. Er blutete. Und jeder, mit dem ich gesprochen habe, würde sagen, komm schon, Chris, du kannst das nicht machen. Warum? Because it's the law. Okay, why is it the law?
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Tucker and Chris Cuomo Debate JFK/Epstein Files, DOGE, Joe Rogan, NATO, Transgenderism, and DEI
Because we want to enforce civilization. But we're not that civilized.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker and Chris Cuomo Debate JFK/Epstein Files, DOGE, Joe Rogan, NATO, Transgenderism, and DEI
We give ourselves too much credit for civility, especially in America. Everything we embrace is violent and aggressive. Why does everybody like The Rock? Because he's a great actor? No, it's that symbology of what he represents as a male. And I know that it's wrong, but I feel like... You can't be punching everybody in the face that you disagree with. I know, of course.
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Tucker and Chris Cuomo Debate JFK/Epstein Files, DOGE, Joe Rogan, NATO, Transgenderism, and DEI
But it's now like we empower people to be their absolute worst all the time and they gain advantage of it. People say things, they're not just criticizing you. They don't just criticize me. Oh, I know. They say horrible things about people, their families, whatever it is. And I don't know how that's making us any better. Is that just what we have to tolerate to be in a democracy?
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Tucker and Chris Cuomo Debate JFK/Epstein Files, DOGE, Joe Rogan, NATO, Transgenderism, and DEI
I...
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Tucker and Chris Cuomo Debate JFK/Epstein Files, DOGE, Joe Rogan, NATO, Transgenderism, and DEI
Because also remember... Well, I admire that.
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Tucker and Chris Cuomo Debate JFK/Epstein Files, DOGE, Joe Rogan, NATO, Transgenderism, and DEI
No, no, no. Of course. But I'm saying that, I don't know, man. I just feel like we're getting less civilized, even though the law is expanding.
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Tucker and Chris Cuomo Debate JFK/Epstein Files, DOGE, Joe Rogan, NATO, Transgenderism, and DEI
News Nation is... owned by a company that really knows local tv right they own the most local tv stations what is uh what has the most currency in media still uh visual media local news um the boss of me directly i have like 10 bosses starting with dusty on up but the mike korn is an abc news pro who did every job so he's not a corporate guy He was in the field. He knows how to edit.
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Tucker and Chris Cuomo Debate JFK/Epstein Files, DOGE, Joe Rogan, NATO, Transgenderism, and DEI
I appreciate you. I like coming down to see you. And I think that the point is as simple as that, Tucker. We're not gonna agree on everything, okay?
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Tucker and Chris Cuomo Debate JFK/Epstein Files, DOGE, Joe Rogan, NATO, Transgenderism, and DEI
I don't believe you.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker and Chris Cuomo Debate JFK/Epstein Files, DOGE, Joe Rogan, NATO, Transgenderism, and DEI
Ich glaube, dass... Schau, du wirst Leute fragen, warum du zu diesem Mann sprichst. Ich werde Leute fragen, warum du zu diesem Mann sprichst. Und ich liebe es, die Frage zu beantworten. Denn Gespräche sind die Rettung. Du musst nicht zufrieden sein, aber du musst hören. Und du musst einander fühlen. Und du musst es einnehmen. Und ich bin froh, es mit dir zu tun.
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Tucker and Chris Cuomo Debate JFK/Epstein Files, DOGE, Joe Rogan, NATO, Transgenderism, and DEI
Und ich freue mich, es wieder zu tun. Amen. Danke. Schön, dich zu sehen.
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Tucker and Chris Cuomo Debate JFK/Epstein Files, DOGE, Joe Rogan, NATO, Transgenderism, and DEI
He was in the control room. He did all the jobs. He's written the pieces. So he knows the alchemy of journalism. So he understands when someone's faking the funk and what's transparent versus what is trickery. So they've got a good setup there for it. However, I'm still a Cuomo.