Chace Crawford

I know. I mean, you can keep playing golf throughout your life. And I'm not even, like, I feel like I, it seems like I play in these little charity things that they invite me to. Aww. So I, yeah. So I'm like, but I'm not that big of a golfer. I played growing up because there was, because I just wasn't going to be big enough for football. So that was sort of the impetus there.

I know. I mean, you can keep playing golf throughout your life. And I'm not even, like, I feel like I, it seems like I play in these little charity things that they invite me to. Aww. So I, yeah. So I'm like, but I'm not that big of a golfer. I played growing up because there was, because I just wasn't going to be big enough for football. So that was sort of the impetus there.

I know. I mean, you can keep playing golf throughout your life. And I'm not even, like, I feel like I, it seems like I play in these little charity things that they invite me to. Aww. So I, yeah. So I'm like, but I'm not that big of a golfer. I played growing up because there was, because I just wasn't going to be big enough for football. So that was sort of the impetus there.

It would have been totally different. Because the next year I got the Gossip Girl thing. So it would have been totally different. Oh, my God.

It would have been totally different. Because the next year I got the Gossip Girl thing. So it would have been totally different. Oh, my God.

It would have been totally different. Because the next year I got the Gossip Girl thing. So it would have been totally different. Oh, my God.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It was meant to be.

It was meant to be.

It was meant to be.

I did go to prom. Yeah. Yeah.

I did go to prom. Yeah. Yeah.

I did go to prom. Yeah. Yeah.

Oh, my God. I actually ended up going. One of my best friends in high school was this girl, Alyssa. Alyssa Weldon. Love her. We called her Woobie. So we used to go to prom together just because I think I had a girlfriend from a different school. And there was a thing where the girls didn't want you. It was just like, you can't bring a girlfriend to school. So I want to bring my friend, Woobie.

Oh, my God. I actually ended up going. One of my best friends in high school was this girl, Alyssa. Alyssa Weldon. Love her. We called her Woobie. So we used to go to prom together just because I think I had a girlfriend from a different school. And there was a thing where the girls didn't want you. It was just like, you can't bring a girlfriend to school. So I want to bring my friend, Woobie.

Oh, my God. I actually ended up going. One of my best friends in high school was this girl, Alyssa. Alyssa Weldon. Love her. We called her Woobie. So we used to go to prom together just because I think I had a girlfriend from a different school. And there was a thing where the girls didn't want you. It was just like, you can't bring a girlfriend to school. So I want to bring my friend, Woobie.

This is awesome.

This is awesome.

This is awesome.

And we tore it up. Me and Woobie tore it up. Oh, good for you. So that was it.

And we tore it up. Me and Woobie tore it up. Oh, good for you. So that was it.

And we tore it up. Me and Woobie tore it up. Oh, good for you. So that was it.

Yeah, I do, actually. I do. Tell us a story. Come on. Back of a Honda Prius.

Yeah, I do, actually. I do. Tell us a story. Come on. Back of a Honda Prius.

Yeah, I do, actually. I do. Tell us a story. Come on. Back of a Honda Prius.

Mike's Hard Lemonade. Or no. It was a grab bag. It was Mike's Hard Lemonade and Smirnoff. I don't want to say Smirnoff. Smirnoff. Or like Zima or something like that. But it was Mike's Hard Lemonade and Smirnoff. I think I had one of each. But it was one of those things where you don't know if you're drunk and you don't know how to act. You act drunker than you are. I think I'm feeling great.

Mike's Hard Lemonade. Or no. It was a grab bag. It was Mike's Hard Lemonade and Smirnoff. I don't want to say Smirnoff. Smirnoff. Or like Zima or something like that. But it was Mike's Hard Lemonade and Smirnoff. I think I had one of each. But it was one of those things where you don't know if you're drunk and you don't know how to act. You act drunker than you are. I think I'm feeling great.

Mike's Hard Lemonade. Or no. It was a grab bag. It was Mike's Hard Lemonade and Smirnoff. I don't want to say Smirnoff. Smirnoff. Or like Zima or something like that. But it was Mike's Hard Lemonade and Smirnoff. I think I had one of each. But it was one of those things where you don't know if you're drunk and you don't know how to act. You act drunker than you are. I think I'm feeling great.

You're trying. Dude, it's just water. We fucked with you. It's just water.

You're trying. Dude, it's just water. We fucked with you. It's just water.

You're trying. Dude, it's just water. We fucked with you. It's just water.

No, no. I had a bad moment with vanilla. It was I think it was vanilla Coke or vanilla sky. It was like vanilla, some vanilla flavored.

No, no. I had a bad moment with vanilla. It was I think it was vanilla Coke or vanilla sky. It was like vanilla, some vanilla flavored.

No, no. I had a bad moment with vanilla. It was I think it was vanilla Coke or vanilla sky. It was like vanilla, some vanilla flavored.

ruined it forever that'll do it that'll do it so that's your drink that was my bad moment it was like coke and some vanilla like vanilla coke some mixed with vodka bad night you can never now not drink that and think of that no it was great because then i just kind of would like i switched to beer as you want one dozen texas you switch to some beer so um abercrombie and fitch

ruined it forever that'll do it that'll do it so that's your drink that was my bad moment it was like coke and some vanilla like vanilla coke some mixed with vodka bad night you can never now not drink that and think of that no it was great because then i just kind of would like i switched to beer as you want one dozen texas you switch to some beer so um abercrombie and fitch

ruined it forever that'll do it that'll do it so that's your drink that was my bad moment it was like coke and some vanilla like vanilla coke some mixed with vodka bad night you can never now not drink that and think of that no it was great because then i just kind of would like i switched to beer as you want one dozen texas you switch to some beer so um abercrombie and fitch

No, I worked there. I worked behind the counter. I was doing the numbers.

No, I worked there. I worked behind the counter. I was doing the numbers.

No, I worked there. I worked behind the counter. I was doing the numbers.

I think I lied about my age, too, because I thought it was cool to be picked. Would you work here? I was like, yeah, maybe. Maybe. Yeah, give me an application. And I was lying on the application.

I think I lied about my age, too, because I thought it was cool to be picked. Would you work here? I was like, yeah, maybe. Maybe. Yeah, give me an application. And I was lying on the application.

I think I lied about my age, too, because I thought it was cool to be picked. Would you work here? I was like, yeah, maybe. Maybe. Yeah, give me an application. And I was lying on the application.

You have no idea. First of all, okay, you get to the mall, you walk in, you can smell that store from any entrance point in the mall, right? Woods Cologne. I can smell it and I can taste it right now thinking about it. It's kind of disgusting. They probably still have it. God. Yep. And then as I'm getting closer, I can hear the same fucking mix that they've been playing on repeat for 48 hours.

You have no idea. First of all, okay, you get to the mall, you walk in, you can smell that store from any entrance point in the mall, right? Woods Cologne. I can smell it and I can taste it right now thinking about it. It's kind of disgusting. They probably still have it. God. Yep. And then as I'm getting closer, I can hear the same fucking mix that they've been playing on repeat for 48 hours.

You have no idea. First of all, okay, you get to the mall, you walk in, you can smell that store from any entrance point in the mall, right? Woods Cologne. I can smell it and I can taste it right now thinking about it. It's kind of disgusting. They probably still have it. God. Yep. And then as I'm getting closer, I can hear the same fucking mix that they've been playing on repeat for 48 hours.

I know this song and now I probably love every song on there, but like it's the same thing you get in there. There's like greeters standing there, sometimes shirtless back in the day.

I know this song and now I probably love every song on there, but like it's the same thing you get in there. There's like greeters standing there, sometimes shirtless back in the day.

I know this song and now I probably love every song on there, but like it's the same thing you get in there. There's like greeters standing there, sometimes shirtless back in the day.

I was never one of those. They tried to act. Oh, I had enough, at least self-dignity, respect. And they were like, I'm a math guy. They put me behind the register. So, and I actually, time went by way faster. I was not a greeter, but you get there, you might be introduced by some shirtless guys. And then, and there's all these photographs.

I was never one of those. They tried to act. Oh, I had enough, at least self-dignity, respect. And they were like, I'm a math guy. They put me behind the register. So, and I actually, time went by way faster. I was not a greeter, but you get there, you might be introduced by some shirtless guys. And then, and there's all these photographs.

I was never one of those. They tried to act. Oh, I had enough, at least self-dignity, respect. And they were like, I'm a math guy. They put me behind the register. So, and I actually, time went by way faster. I was not a greeter, but you get there, you might be introduced by some shirtless guys. And then, and there's all these photographs.

He's like those Bruce Weber, like black and white photographs. You know, those were kind of the iconic thing that made it so.

He's like those Bruce Weber, like black and white photographs. You know, those were kind of the iconic thing that made it so.

He's like those Bruce Weber, like black and white photographs. You know, those were kind of the iconic thing that made it so.

At the time, that was very like racy and like.

At the time, that was very like racy and like.

At the time, that was very like racy and like.

Yeah. It was terrible. Yeah. I worked at both. I worked at Hollister too for a summer. It was terrible. It was awful. It was awful.

Yeah. It was terrible. Yeah. I worked at both. I worked at Hollister too for a summer. It was terrible. It was awful. It was awful.

Yeah. It was terrible. Yeah. I worked at both. I worked at Hollister too for a summer. It was terrible. It was awful. It was awful.

Yeah, I know. I kind of love it though. Yeah.

Yeah, I know. I kind of love it though. Yeah.

Yeah, I know. I kind of love it though. Yeah.

Thank you for having me, Alex. Yeah.

Thank you for having me, Alex. Yeah.

Thank you for having me, Alex. Yeah.

It was cool. Yeah. It was cool.

It was cool. Yeah. It was cool.

It was cool. Yeah. It was cool.

It's cool.

It's cool.

It's cool.

No, there's no malls. The Bev Center is great. It's empty. It's like kind of nice. You can walk my dog. It's kind of nice in there. It is a ghost town. Okay.

No, there's no malls. The Bev Center is great. It's empty. It's like kind of nice. You can walk my dog. It's kind of nice in there. It is a ghost town. Okay.

No, there's no malls. The Bev Center is great. It's empty. It's like kind of nice. You can walk my dog. It's kind of nice in there. It is a ghost town. Okay.

Okay. Okay.

Okay. Okay.

Okay. Okay.

No, I had no idea. I mean, I, like a lot of kids, I grew up in the OC in high school and into my college life.

No, I had no idea. I mean, I, like a lot of kids, I grew up in the OC in high school and into my college life.

No, I had no idea. I mean, I, like a lot of kids, I grew up in the OC in high school and into my college life.

In my college year, it was the best show. Loved it. But it was weird. I went in there. It was like a process of like six hoops to jump through. It was actually kind of a wild process, but... I knew that Josh and Stephanie did the OC. They're phenomenal. And I knew it had this potential to be cool. And I'm like, oh, they're definitely going to change the name.

In my college year, it was the best show. Loved it. But it was weird. I went in there. It was like a process of like six hoops to jump through. It was actually kind of a wild process, but... I knew that Josh and Stephanie did the OC. They're phenomenal. And I knew it had this potential to be cool. And I'm like, oh, they're definitely going to change the name.

In my college year, it was the best show. Loved it. But it was weird. I went in there. It was like a process of like six hoops to jump through. It was actually kind of a wild process, but... I knew that Josh and Stephanie did the OC. They're phenomenal. And I knew it had this potential to be cool. And I'm like, oh, they're definitely going to change the name.

That name's never going to stick, you know. It's based on these books, whatever. But I went in. And then right away, if I remember correctly, I wore like my most New York-y jacket possible. Like my preppiest, you know, whatever.

That name's never going to stick, you know. It's based on these books, whatever. But I went in. And then right away, if I remember correctly, I wore like my most New York-y jacket possible. Like my preppiest, you know, whatever.

That name's never going to stick, you know. It's based on these books, whatever. But I went in. And then right away, if I remember correctly, I wore like my most New York-y jacket possible. Like my preppiest, you know, whatever.

But at the same time, I was a little bit like, again, I'm like younger. I was a little like eye roll. Like this is kind of, not beneath me, but I wanted Friday Night Live.

But at the same time, I was a little bit like, again, I'm like younger. I was a little like eye roll. Like this is kind of, not beneath me, but I wanted Friday Night Live.

But at the same time, I was a little bit like, again, I'm like younger. I was a little like eye roll. Like this is kind of, not beneath me, but I wanted Friday Night Live.

So I kind of went in there with a very kind of blase, whatever, which probably worked in my favor, as those things kind of do. But they wanted to do a test thing right away, which I thought, great, there's going to be one more audition or whatever. But then it was back with producers, and then producers and director. And then it was like, It's all different now.

So I kind of went in there with a very kind of blase, whatever, which probably worked in my favor, as those things kind of do. But they wanted to do a test thing right away, which I thought, great, there's going to be one more audition or whatever. But then it was back with producers, and then producers and director. And then it was like, It's all different now.

So I kind of went in there with a very kind of blase, whatever, which probably worked in my favor, as those things kind of do. But they wanted to do a test thing right away, which I thought, great, there's going to be one more audition or whatever. But then it was back with producers, and then producers and director. And then it was like, It's all different now.

Now it's all self-tapes and you just kind of put yourself out there. Right. But back then it was like – it was CW. So it was CBS and Warner Brothers. So you had to go to like the top of like the Warner Brothers building. And I remember one of the final – maybe fourth or fifth times I walked in this big like 40-row conference room. And I think I tested with a few –

Now it's all self-tapes and you just kind of put yourself out there. Right. But back then it was like – it was CW. So it was CBS and Warner Brothers. So you had to go to like the top of like the Warner Brothers building. And I remember one of the final – maybe fourth or fifth times I walked in this big like 40-row conference room. And I think I tested with a few –

Now it's all self-tapes and you just kind of put yourself out there. Right. But back then it was like – it was CW. So it was CBS and Warner Brothers. So you had to go to like the top of like the Warner Brothers building. And I remember one of the final – maybe fourth or fifth times I walked in this big like 40-row conference room. And I think I tested with a few –

actresses few girls for like Blair or whatever and I remember thinking like I'm like god that's a really great part like she's got some great chunks of dialogue it's like funny and you know no no offense they didn't really I was like that's I just don't really see it with these girls and I got this big conference room and there was just this one girl kind of sitting with her back turned I walked all the way I was like

actresses few girls for like Blair or whatever and I remember thinking like I'm like god that's a really great part like she's got some great chunks of dialogue it's like funny and you know no no offense they didn't really I was like that's I just don't really see it with these girls and I got this big conference room and there was just this one girl kind of sitting with her back turned I walked all the way I was like

actresses few girls for like Blair or whatever and I remember thinking like I'm like god that's a really great part like she's got some great chunks of dialogue it's like funny and you know no no offense they didn't really I was like that's I just don't really see it with these girls and I got this big conference room and there was just this one girl kind of sitting with her back turned I walked all the way I was like

hi, nice to meet you. And it was like late and turned around. And before she even said, I'm like, that's, she's like so perfect. She was like, hi, nice to meet you. I'm like, that's the girl. So we both were like super nervous and we had to like go in and test. It's silly. It was like a theater seating, dark room, one stool, like lights.

hi, nice to meet you. And it was like late and turned around. And before she even said, I'm like, that's, she's like so perfect. She was like, hi, nice to meet you. I'm like, that's the girl. So we both were like super nervous and we had to like go in and test. It's silly. It was like a theater seating, dark room, one stool, like lights.

hi, nice to meet you. And it was like late and turned around. And before she even said, I'm like, that's, she's like so perfect. She was like, hi, nice to meet you. I'm like, that's the girl. So we both were like super nervous and we had to like go in and test. It's silly. It was like a theater seating, dark room, one stool, like lights.

And it was like, you go in and it's like the silliest scenes ever. You're doing like in front of like all these people. I'm like, talk about Nathaniel's Paxil and all this stupid stuff. Oh,

And it was like, you go in and it's like the silliest scenes ever. You're doing like in front of like all these people. I'm like, talk about Nathaniel's Paxil and all this stupid stuff. Oh,

And it was like, you go in and it's like the silliest scenes ever. You're doing like in front of like all these people. I'm like, talk about Nathaniel's Paxil and all this stupid stuff. Oh,

Yeah, always for Nate. Yeah, I think they switched around some of the roles, kind of like the play. I remember going in and reading with Blake and a few other guys. They were trying to fit the pen to the Dan role. So, yeah.

Yeah, always for Nate. Yeah, I think they switched around some of the roles, kind of like the play. I remember going in and reading with Blake and a few other guys. They were trying to fit the pen to the Dan role. So, yeah.

Yeah, always for Nate. Yeah, I think they switched around some of the roles, kind of like the play. I remember going in and reading with Blake and a few other guys. They were trying to fit the pen to the Dan role. So, yeah.

No, like nothing. No, absolutely nothing. I had no idea. I didn't really know any.

No, like nothing. No, absolutely nothing. I had no idea. I didn't really know any.

No, like nothing. No, absolutely nothing. I had no idea. I didn't really know any.

northeastern people i had no idea like the whole thing i was it was all new to me did you have an accent money i had i had a like a subtle i kind of lost it in california when i went to college for like four years but like i get drunk i have a little accent yeah but but i had uh i did think about that though i'm like how do these you know what is that new york thing you know what is that preppy thing right uh because you went to pepperdine for one year i did yeah for about a year and a half yeah exactly did your family think you were losing your mind that you dropped out

northeastern people i had no idea like the whole thing i was it was all new to me did you have an accent money i had i had a like a subtle i kind of lost it in california when i went to college for like four years but like i get drunk i have a little accent yeah but but i had uh i did think about that though i'm like how do these you know what is that new york thing you know what is that preppy thing right uh because you went to pepperdine for one year i did yeah for about a year and a half yeah exactly did your family think you were losing your mind that you dropped out

northeastern people i had no idea like the whole thing i was it was all new to me did you have an accent money i had i had a like a subtle i kind of lost it in california when i went to college for like four years but like i get drunk i have a little accent yeah but but i had uh i did think about that though i'm like how do these you know what is that new york thing you know what is that preppy thing right uh because you went to pepperdine for one year i did yeah for about a year and a half yeah exactly did your family think you were losing your mind that you dropped out

Kind of. I mean, I kind of freaked out. I didn't know what I wanted to do with my life. I kind of had a freak out moment and just they were supportive. I graduated high school a bit younger. I was like 17. So they were like, take a year off, like do whatever. And of course, I found this acting class. I'm like, I want to be an actor.

Kind of. I mean, I kind of freaked out. I didn't know what I wanted to do with my life. I kind of had a freak out moment and just they were supportive. I graduated high school a bit younger. I was like 17. So they were like, take a year off, like do whatever. And of course, I found this acting class. I'm like, I want to be an actor.

Kind of. I mean, I kind of freaked out. I didn't know what I wanted to do with my life. I kind of had a freak out moment and just they were supportive. I graduated high school a bit younger. I was like 17. So they were like, take a year off, like do whatever. And of course, I found this acting class. I'm like, I want to be an actor.

I'm like, guess I'm joining a fraternity, which I didn't necessarily want to do. But yeah.

I'm like, guess I'm joining a fraternity, which I didn't necessarily want to do. But yeah.

I'm like, guess I'm joining a fraternity, which I didn't necessarily want to do. But yeah.

Past like 11 o'clock p.m. You can't have any girl in your room. Vice versa. Yeah.

Past like 11 o'clock p.m. You can't have any girl in your room. Vice versa. Yeah.

Past like 11 o'clock p.m. You can't have any girl in your room. Vice versa. Yeah.

Oh, yeah, we did. Yeah. Quite a bit. Somehow. Yeah. We could have got in a lot of trouble, actually. I think we like...

Oh, yeah, we did. Yeah. Quite a bit. Somehow. Yeah. We could have got in a lot of trouble, actually. I think we like...

Oh, yeah, we did. Yeah. Quite a bit. Somehow. Yeah. We could have got in a lot of trouble, actually. I think we like...

skinny dipped in like the president's like pool or something crazy while he was not there like something crazy yeah yeah yeah yeah so you had a good time story i love it we had a good time yeah yeah they're not gonna invite you back no that was like a one-time thing but it was like we kind of like found like i met some really actually three of my best friends they ended up all being from texas and they were like from austin and one was from like amarillo texas and somehow we became like instant good friends yeah yeah so uh

skinny dipped in like the president's like pool or something crazy while he was not there like something crazy yeah yeah yeah yeah so you had a good time story i love it we had a good time yeah yeah they're not gonna invite you back no that was like a one-time thing but it was like we kind of like found like i met some really actually three of my best friends they ended up all being from texas and they were like from austin and one was from like amarillo texas and somehow we became like instant good friends yeah yeah so uh

skinny dipped in like the president's like pool or something crazy while he was not there like something crazy yeah yeah yeah yeah so you had a good time story i love it we had a good time yeah yeah they're not gonna invite you back no that was like a one-time thing but it was like we kind of like found like i met some really actually three of my best friends they ended up all being from texas and they were like from austin and one was from like amarillo texas and somehow we became like instant good friends yeah yeah so uh

Guaranteed they were so – everyone was probably super left field surprised. Really? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Guaranteed they were so – everyone was probably super left field surprised. Really? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Guaranteed they were so – everyone was probably super left field surprised. Really? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

No, I never wanted to be an actor. And I also wasn't that guy. I wasn't like Johnny, like, you know, heartthrob on the TV show. I just wasn't. I mean, I was a late bloomer. By the time I was 21, I kind of started to come more into my own, right? Have, you know, real confidence. Confidence.

No, I never wanted to be an actor. And I also wasn't that guy. I wasn't like Johnny, like, you know, heartthrob on the TV show. I just wasn't. I mean, I was a late bloomer. By the time I was 21, I kind of started to come more into my own, right? Have, you know, real confidence. Confidence.

No, I never wanted to be an actor. And I also wasn't that guy. I wasn't like Johnny, like, you know, heartthrob on the TV show. I just wasn't. I mean, I was a late bloomer. By the time I was 21, I kind of started to come more into my own, right? Have, you know, real confidence. Confidence.

It does happen. Yeah. You probably speak that like, yeah, it's like it's weird. Like certain things happen. People act weird around that kind of stuff.

It does happen. Yeah. You probably speak that like, yeah, it's like it's weird. Like certain things happen. People act weird around that kind of stuff.

It does happen. Yeah. You probably speak that like, yeah, it's like it's weird. Like certain things happen. People act weird around that kind of stuff.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah, there was that a little bit, actually. Isn't that weird? Yeah, it was weird. It was weird. Yeah.

Yeah, there was that a little bit, actually. Isn't that weird? Yeah, it was weird. It was weird. Yeah.

Yeah, there was that a little bit, actually. Isn't that weird? Yeah, it was weird. It was weird. Yeah.

I remember the fall of 2007, like right when it started airing, it became big, like right away. Yeah, it was really insane.

I remember the fall of 2007, like right when it started airing, it became big, like right away. Yeah, it was really insane.

I remember the fall of 2007, like right when it started airing, it became big, like right away. Yeah, it was really insane.

I don't really... I guess there wasn't that one moment. There was me and Ed Westwick who played Chuck on the show.

I don't really... I guess there wasn't that one moment. There was me and Ed Westwick who played Chuck on the show.

I don't really... I guess there wasn't that one moment. There was me and Ed Westwick who played Chuck on the show.

You know, he was like an 18-year-old kid from like outside of London. He thought he was like Pete Doherty, right?

You know, he was like an 18-year-old kid from like outside of London. He thought he was like Pete Doherty, right?

You know, he was like an 18-year-old kid from like outside of London. He thought he was like Pete Doherty, right?

And we... I'm from Texas. I was just in college. I didn't know how expensive New York is. It was insane. My dad had to give us the security deposit in first month's and last month's rent until we got our first paycheck. It was hilarious. So I'm like, Ed, you want to room together? This is crazy. I'm looking at this. He's like, oh, yeah, sure, man. He had no idea.

And we... I'm from Texas. I was just in college. I didn't know how expensive New York is. It was insane. My dad had to give us the security deposit in first month's and last month's rent until we got our first paycheck. It was hilarious. So I'm like, Ed, you want to room together? This is crazy. I'm looking at this. He's like, oh, yeah, sure, man. He had no idea.

And we... I'm from Texas. I was just in college. I didn't know how expensive New York is. It was insane. My dad had to give us the security deposit in first month's and last month's rent until we got our first paycheck. It was hilarious. So I'm like, Ed, you want to room together? This is crazy. I'm looking at this. He's like, oh, yeah, sure, man. He had no idea.

and i and we had like first summer we like moving in july like probably just turned 21 or 22 and we were like the summer series in central park i don't know if you remember any of that but they had like big concerts out there and it was like the black keys arctic monkeys i might be dating myself but it was awesome it's awesome sun's out beers and the show hadn't even come out we shot the pilot we just moved there and we're having a blast just him and i just exploring the city

and i and we had like first summer we like moving in july like probably just turned 21 or 22 and we were like the summer series in central park i don't know if you remember any of that but they had like big concerts out there and it was like the black keys arctic monkeys i might be dating myself but it was awesome it's awesome sun's out beers and the show hadn't even come out we shot the pilot we just moved there and we're having a blast just him and i just exploring the city

and i and we had like first summer we like moving in july like probably just turned 21 or 22 and we were like the summer series in central park i don't know if you remember any of that but they had like big concerts out there and it was like the black keys arctic monkeys i might be dating myself but it was awesome it's awesome sun's out beers and the show hadn't even come out we shot the pilot we just moved there and we're having a blast just him and i just exploring the city

And these girls did come up to us. And it kind of freaked us out a little bit because we didn't know. And he kind of looked at me and was like, I think we're fucked, mate. He's like, show hasn't even come out yet, man. He's like, this whole thing. And that moment is pretty crystallized in my mind because it was all like the Black Keys were playing.

And these girls did come up to us. And it kind of freaked us out a little bit because we didn't know. And he kind of looked at me and was like, I think we're fucked, mate. He's like, show hasn't even come out yet, man. He's like, this whole thing. And that moment is pretty crystallized in my mind because it was all like the Black Keys were playing.

And these girls did come up to us. And it kind of freaked us out a little bit because we didn't know. And he kind of looked at me and was like, I think we're fucked, mate. He's like, show hasn't even come out yet, man. He's like, this whole thing. And that moment is pretty crystallized in my mind because it was all like the Black Keys were playing.

That was the very first time I think anyone ever asked for any type of picture. So that was, I do remember that as being like a defining like, oh, interesting. That's a weird feeling.

That was the very first time I think anyone ever asked for any type of picture. So that was, I do remember that as being like a defining like, oh, interesting. That's a weird feeling.

That was the very first time I think anyone ever asked for any type of picture. So that was, I do remember that as being like a defining like, oh, interesting. That's a weird feeling.

Not well. Actually, not well. It kind of made me paranoid, to be honest. Really? Slightly. I don't want to say it was this terrible thing. It was fun. It was fun. But like you said, people come out of the woodwork. People start acting weird around fame. And you start realizing all these things that you can only realize from that scene. But I don't want to act like it was this thing.

Not well. Actually, not well. It kind of made me paranoid, to be honest. Really? Slightly. I don't want to say it was this terrible thing. It was fun. It was fun. But like you said, people come out of the woodwork. People start acting weird around fame. And you start realizing all these things that you can only realize from that scene. But I don't want to act like it was this thing.

Not well. Actually, not well. It kind of made me paranoid, to be honest. Really? Slightly. I don't want to say it was this terrible thing. It was fun. It was fun. But like you said, people come out of the woodwork. People start acting weird around fame. And you start realizing all these things that you can only realize from that scene. But I don't want to act like it was this thing.

We had a blast. For me, it was all about having fun. I had so much fun. But it was... Um, you just are always kind of like, you can't like, you kind of aren't present all the time. I could, you kind of just kind of like, I'm wary about people or phones like a little bit, like not, you know, I think that's okay to say, like, and I get what you're saying.

We had a blast. For me, it was all about having fun. I had so much fun. But it was... Um, you just are always kind of like, you can't like, you kind of aren't present all the time. I could, you kind of just kind of like, I'm wary about people or phones like a little bit, like not, you know, I think that's okay to say, like, and I get what you're saying.

We had a blast. For me, it was all about having fun. I had so much fun. But it was... Um, you just are always kind of like, you can't like, you kind of aren't present all the time. I could, you kind of just kind of like, I'm wary about people or phones like a little bit, like not, you know, I think that's okay to say, like, and I get what you're saying.

They think they know you, right?

They think they know you, right?

They think they know you, right?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And New York's interesting because it's like you get all these influx of people and tourists. And you're not only you're that character in that city. So it's like Mickey Mouse in Disneyland. They all want to see like take a photo with like Mickey's. You feel like they just come up and hug you. And it's like you're in this costume. Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And New York's interesting because it's like you get all these influx of people and tourists. And you're not only you're that character in that city. So it's like Mickey Mouse in Disneyland. They all want to see like take a photo with like Mickey's. You feel like they just come up and hug you. And it's like you're in this costume. Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And New York's interesting because it's like you get all these influx of people and tourists. And you're not only you're that character in that city. So it's like Mickey Mouse in Disneyland. They all want to see like take a photo with like Mickey's. You feel like they just come up and hug you. And it's like you're in this costume. Yeah.

It was just weird. It was like a really weird, like if we were shooting exactly in Toronto, it's a different thing, but people are visiting New York and it was its own character in the show, you know, and people are like, you know, fans of the show. And when they see you actually in that environment, it's like this whole, like their mind is blown, you know? So it was a doubly interesting thing.

It was just weird. It was like a really weird, like if we were shooting exactly in Toronto, it's a different thing, but people are visiting New York and it was its own character in the show, you know, and people are like, you know, fans of the show. And when they see you actually in that environment, it's like this whole, like their mind is blown, you know? So it was a doubly interesting thing.

It was just weird. It was like a really weird, like if we were shooting exactly in Toronto, it's a different thing, but people are visiting New York and it was its own character in the show, you know, and people are like, you know, fans of the show. And when they see you actually in that environment, it's like this whole, like their mind is blown, you know? So it was a doubly interesting thing.

Yeah. It was weird like that. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. It was weird like that. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. It was weird like that. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. And I think it was like, like Perez Hilton or whatever the gossip girly thing was at that time was really, I always thought it was like funny stuff, but it was the same thing happening. You know what I mean? And, and, uh, I thought I wouldn't even like New York. I visited in like high school. And of course we went to all the tourists, the awful spots. And I was there for a month.

Yeah. Yeah. And I think it was like, like Perez Hilton or whatever the gossip girly thing was at that time was really, I always thought it was like funny stuff, but it was the same thing happening. You know what I mean? And, and, uh, I thought I wouldn't even like New York. I visited in like high school. And of course we went to all the tourists, the awful spots. And I was there for a month.

Yeah. Yeah. And I think it was like, like Perez Hilton or whatever the gossip girly thing was at that time was really, I always thought it was like funny stuff, but it was the same thing happening. You know what I mean? And, and, uh, I thought I wouldn't even like New York. I visited in like high school. And of course we went to all the tourists, the awful spots. And I was there for a month.

I'm like, Oh,

I'm like, Oh,

I'm like, Oh,

Fucking love this place.

Fucking love this place.

Fucking love this place.

Yeah. We kind of had the keys to the city. And it's like your 20s in New York, as you know, it's just there's nothing better. So it was like, it was so great.

Yeah. We kind of had the keys to the city. And it's like your 20s in New York, as you know, it's just there's nothing better. So it was like, it was so great.

Yeah. We kind of had the keys to the city. And it's like your 20s in New York, as you know, it's just there's nothing better. So it was like, it was so great.

Oh, God. He had a lot of bad ones, let me tell you that much. We lived in this little apartment. I think it was like a, they call it like a junior one where there was like a real bedroom. Right. And then there was like an office you could put in a closed wall. And I was like, we'll just switch. Like, and I'll pay a little bit more. Of course we never switched. And I'm glad we did.

Oh, God. He had a lot of bad ones, let me tell you that much. We lived in this little apartment. I think it was like a, they call it like a junior one where there was like a real bedroom. Right. And then there was like an office you could put in a closed wall. And I was like, we'll just switch. Like, and I'll pay a little bit more. Of course we never switched. And I'm glad we did.

Oh, God. He had a lot of bad ones, let me tell you that much. We lived in this little apartment. I think it was like a, they call it like a junior one where there was like a real bedroom. Right. And then there was like an office you could put in a closed wall. And I was like, we'll just switch. Like, and I'll pay a little bit more. Of course we never switched. And I'm glad we did.

Cause Ed's room was like, you know, it was like a lunch pail with like overflowing cigarettes. And like, I mean, you thought like the Joker lived there. It was insane. I'm not even kidding. I shouldn't be calling him out like this, but I love it.

Cause Ed's room was like, you know, it was like a lunch pail with like overflowing cigarettes. And like, I mean, you thought like the Joker lived there. It was insane. I'm not even kidding. I shouldn't be calling him out like this, but I love it.

Cause Ed's room was like, you know, it was like a lunch pail with like overflowing cigarettes. And like, I mean, you thought like the Joker lived there. It was insane. I'm not even kidding. I shouldn't be calling him out like this, but I love it.

But he's eight 19. I'm 21. Like, you know, and, and, uh, He was just messy. I'm a little OCD. I mean, I'm not OCD, but I'm like a little bit on that side of like, I need things put in the right place and stuff.

But he's eight 19. I'm 21. Like, you know, and, and, uh, He was just messy. I'm a little OCD. I mean, I'm not OCD, but I'm like a little bit on that side of like, I need things put in the right place and stuff.

But he's eight 19. I'm 21. Like, you know, and, and, uh, He was just messy. I'm a little OCD. I mean, I'm not OCD, but I'm like a little bit on that side of like, I need things put in the right place and stuff.

Just like shoving the stuff in his room, shoving the door. And like, and then it was like, and he's, you know, at the time, like ripping cigs. I was like, stop that. You know, so. Thank you. Thank you.

Just like shoving the stuff in his room, shoving the door. And like, and then it was like, and he's, you know, at the time, like ripping cigs. I was like, stop that. You know, so. Thank you. Thank you.

Just like shoving the stuff in his room, shoving the door. And like, and then it was like, and he's, you know, at the time, like ripping cigs. I was like, stop that. You know, so. Thank you. Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

I was. Listen, I'm a little bit nervous right now because I'm so excited, Alex. No, I was telling you, I'm like, maybe I save it for the podcast, but I'm an OG daddy fan. Let's fucking go. I'd be like, you know, I'd be like. Walking my dog. I always listen to podcasts. I was like, who are these? You guys are giving insane advice.

I was. Listen, I'm a little bit nervous right now because I'm so excited, Alex. No, I was telling you, I'm like, maybe I save it for the podcast, but I'm an OG daddy fan. Let's fucking go. I'd be like, you know, I'd be like. Walking my dog. I always listen to podcasts. I was like, who are these? You guys are giving insane advice.

I was. Listen, I'm a little bit nervous right now because I'm so excited, Alex. No, I was telling you, I'm like, maybe I save it for the podcast, but I'm an OG daddy fan. Let's fucking go. I'd be like, you know, I'd be like. Walking my dog. I always listen to podcasts. I was like, who are these? You guys are giving insane advice.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you. Thank you.

Thank you. Thank you.

Thank you. Thank you.

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

Thank you. Thank you.

Thank you. Thank you.

Thank you. Thank you.

I'm weird. I'm weird. I am. I'm both. I know that's a lame answer. No, it's a normal answer. I compartmentalize things. I can really go out and let loose. And I'm very social. And I can be loud and have fun. Yeah. But I like my alone time. You know, I like I like my own bed and like I'm sort of a closet reader and a nerd and like my dog. I like I like my alone time.

I'm weird. I'm weird. I am. I'm both. I know that's a lame answer. No, it's a normal answer. I compartmentalize things. I can really go out and let loose. And I'm very social. And I can be loud and have fun. Yeah. But I like my alone time. You know, I like I like my own bed and like I'm sort of a closet reader and a nerd and like my dog. I like I like my alone time.

I'm weird. I'm weird. I am. I'm both. I know that's a lame answer. No, it's a normal answer. I compartmentalize things. I can really go out and let loose. And I'm very social. And I can be loud and have fun. Yeah. But I like my alone time. You know, I like I like my own bed and like I'm sort of a closet reader and a nerd and like my dog. I like I like my alone time.

No, yeah. He's in politics now. He's a senator now, right? Yeah, he's a 26-year-old senator.

No, yeah. He's in politics now. He's a senator now, right? Yeah, he's a 26-year-old senator.

No, yeah. He's in politics now. He's a senator now, right? Yeah, he's a 26-year-old senator.

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, yeah.

I love it. Okay, you know.

I love it. Okay, you know.

I love it. Okay, you know.

I, uh, or tears. I had, I went through like a major depression. I feel like looking back, not really, but I, I, it, I wasn't, I wasn't like prepared for it to end. I guess I thought I was, but, but it was more like New York, uh, it was, it's your family. It's like you wake up and you, and even the drivers like you, you know what I mean?

I, uh, or tears. I had, I went through like a major depression. I feel like looking back, not really, but I, I, it, I wasn't, I wasn't like prepared for it to end. I guess I thought I was, but, but it was more like New York, uh, it was, it's your family. It's like you wake up and you, and even the drivers like you, you know what I mean?

I, uh, or tears. I had, I went through like a major depression. I feel like looking back, not really, but I, I, it, I wasn't, I wasn't like prepared for it to end. I guess I thought I was, but, but it was more like New York, uh, it was, it's your family. It's like you wake up and you, and even the drivers like you, you know what I mean?

He's like a little rescue. He's like a little they lied to us at the rescue place. It was like I share him with an ex-girlfriend, actually. So you're one of those. I'm one of those. I'm one of those.

He's like a little rescue. He's like a little they lied to us at the rescue place. It was like I share him with an ex-girlfriend, actually. So you're one of those. I'm one of those. I'm one of those.

He's like a little rescue. He's like a little they lied to us at the rescue place. It was like I share him with an ex-girlfriend, actually. So you're one of those. I'm one of those. I'm one of those.

It's like the hair and makeup girls, like they're, they're awesome. And that's your whole day. That's like your whole identity. Like, you know, it's like a young, I was ready for it to be done, but, um, I mean, me and Ed would talk about all the time. It's like, this is,

It's like the hair and makeup girls, like they're, they're awesome. And that's your whole day. That's like your whole identity. Like, you know, it's like a young, I was ready for it to be done, but, um, I mean, me and Ed would talk about all the time. It's like, this is,

It's like the hair and makeup girls, like they're, they're awesome. And that's your whole day. That's like your whole identity. Like, you know, it's like a young, I was ready for it to be done, but, um, I mean, me and Ed would talk about all the time. It's like, this is,

it's the greatest job we'll ever have because it was so it was easy it was an easy thing it was fun and we would laugh about that uh but more i was just mad i had to like i was like i guess i guess i gotta go back to la and like you know you're like i really liked it i liked in new york i should have stayed for a little bit why didn't you i don't know i in hindsight with real estate i should have just bought in a place and like kept it like what was i thinking you should have gone back and gotten the place that ed had been renting out and like bought a whole floor and renovated the whole

it's the greatest job we'll ever have because it was so it was easy it was an easy thing it was fun and we would laugh about that uh but more i was just mad i had to like i was like i guess i guess i gotta go back to la and like you know you're like i really liked it i liked in new york i should have stayed for a little bit why didn't you i don't know i in hindsight with real estate i should have just bought in a place and like kept it like what was i thinking you should have gone back and gotten the place that ed had been renting out and like bought a whole floor and renovated the whole

it's the greatest job we'll ever have because it was so it was easy it was an easy thing it was fun and we would laugh about that uh but more i was just mad i had to like i was like i guess i guess i gotta go back to la and like you know you're like i really liked it i liked in new york i should have stayed for a little bit why didn't you i don't know i in hindsight with real estate i should have just bought in a place and like kept it like what was i thinking you should have gone back and gotten the place that ed had been renting out and like bought a whole floor and renovated the whole

Defumigated the whole thing. Yeah.

Defumigated the whole thing. Yeah.

Defumigated the whole thing. Yeah.

I went back to L.A. Yes. Yes. And, you know.

I went back to L.A. Yes. Yes. And, you know.

I went back to L.A. Yes. Yes. And, you know.

It was. Yeah, it was an identity crisis. It was just a weird it was a weird thing. It was it didn't last very long, but it was like a few months of like. it was just a daunting thing of like, is it auditions now? And like going back and how do I, and you're putting a box a little bit, you know what I mean?

It was. Yeah, it was an identity crisis. It was just a weird it was a weird thing. It was it didn't last very long, but it was like a few months of like. it was just a daunting thing of like, is it auditions now? And like going back and how do I, and you're putting a box a little bit, you know what I mean?

It was. Yeah, it was an identity crisis. It was just a weird it was a weird thing. It was it didn't last very long, but it was like a few months of like. it was just a daunting thing of like, is it auditions now? And like going back and how do I, and you're putting a box a little bit, you know what I mean?

You're kind of the guy that a CW show who looks a certain way and it's definitely like, okay, I gotta find something to kind of break out of that. So there was that, yeah.

You're kind of the guy that a CW show who looks a certain way and it's definitely like, okay, I gotta find something to kind of break out of that. So there was that, yeah.

You're kind of the guy that a CW show who looks a certain way and it's definitely like, okay, I gotta find something to kind of break out of that. So there was that, yeah.

Six years.

Six years.

Six years.

I know. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. It's all about him, though. It's all about the dog.

I know. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. It's all about him, though. It's all about the dog.

I know. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. It's all about him, though. It's all about the dog.

Yeah. Yeah. We knew. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. We knew. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. We knew. Yeah.

Kind of, you know how it goes. I mean, yeah. Like I, Yeah, we were on text sometimes. And, like, you make loose plans. And then Penn texted me out of the blue the other day, actually, because he was shooting, I think, his final season of You in our old sound stages. So he was, like, texting me. We were kind of, like, catching up.

Kind of, you know how it goes. I mean, yeah. Like I, Yeah, we were on text sometimes. And, like, you make loose plans. And then Penn texted me out of the blue the other day, actually, because he was shooting, I think, his final season of You in our old sound stages. So he was, like, texting me. We were kind of, like, catching up.

Kind of, you know how it goes. I mean, yeah. Like I, Yeah, we were on text sometimes. And, like, you make loose plans. And then Penn texted me out of the blue the other day, actually, because he was shooting, I think, his final season of You in our old sound stages. So he was, like, texting me. We were kind of, like, catching up.

So I'll see Penn every now and again and Leighton in town. And, you know, Blake's, like, I think, in Westchester. We'll text sometimes, actually. And I saw Ed in Europe recently, kind of.

So I'll see Penn every now and again and Leighton in town. And, you know, Blake's, like, I think, in Westchester. We'll text sometimes, actually. And I saw Ed in Europe recently, kind of.

So I'll see Penn every now and again and Leighton in town. And, you know, Blake's, like, I think, in Westchester. We'll text sometimes, actually. And I saw Ed in Europe recently, kind of.

So, so yeah, yeah. But it was more, it was like the material. I was really ready to move on to different material and a different role. But like New York, I guess I wasn't really ready to leave New York.

So, so yeah, yeah. But it was more, it was like the material. I was really ready to move on to different material and a different role. But like New York, I guess I wasn't really ready to leave New York.

So, so yeah, yeah. But it was more, it was like the material. I was really ready to move on to different material and a different role. But like New York, I guess I wasn't really ready to leave New York.

I'm too old. I mean, I, I, I think the way to do it is to have one in both.

I'm too old. I mean, I, I, I think the way to do it is to have one in both.

I'm too old. I mean, I, I, I think the way to do it is to have one in both.

Is there a good place there at all?

Is there a good place there at all?

Is there a good place there at all?

I know. It's not even, I mean, she's got a fiance. It's not even like, I know. I don't think it's a weird thing at all. People think it's the funniest thing. I'm like, it actually is the only way to have a dog. No, no. I met a cast member recently. She wanted a dog. I'm like, you want to get a dog together? I know how this goes.

I know. It's not even, I mean, she's got a fiance. It's not even like, I know. I don't think it's a weird thing at all. People think it's the funniest thing. I'm like, it actually is the only way to have a dog. No, no. I met a cast member recently. She wanted a dog. I'm like, you want to get a dog together? I know how this goes.

I know. It's not even, I mean, she's got a fiance. It's not even like, I know. I don't think it's a weird thing at all. People think it's the funniest thing. I'm like, it actually is the only way to have a dog. No, no. I met a cast member recently. She wanted a dog. I'm like, you want to get a dog together? I know how this goes.

yeah i like to go for a trip and then get the fuck out totally yes and the winters are kind of brutal right i like my car i might like to go to the grocery store my dog and like cook and have space and yes the dog spoiled with the sun now too the ex-girlfriend with the dog still not over that let's talk about your love life yeah are you in a relationship

yeah i like to go for a trip and then get the fuck out totally yes and the winters are kind of brutal right i like my car i might like to go to the grocery store my dog and like cook and have space and yes the dog spoiled with the sun now too the ex-girlfriend with the dog still not over that let's talk about your love life yeah are you in a relationship

yeah i like to go for a trip and then get the fuck out totally yes and the winters are kind of brutal right i like my car i might like to go to the grocery store my dog and like cook and have space and yes the dog spoiled with the sun now too the ex-girlfriend with the dog still not over that let's talk about your love life yeah are you in a relationship

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

No. It's a dumpster fire, Alex.

No. It's a dumpster fire, Alex.

No. It's a dumpster fire, Alex.

It's all a dumpster fire.

It's all a dumpster fire.

It's all a dumpster fire.

It's 2024. Times are tough out there.

It's 2024. Times are tough out there.

It's 2024. Times are tough out there.

Okay.

Okay.

Okay.

I joined Raya like a week ago. How's it going? Terribly. It's really.

I joined Raya like a week ago. How's it going? Terribly. It's really.

I joined Raya like a week ago. How's it going? Terribly. It's really.

I actually like it. I actually enjoy it. I actually. Oh, really? No, I actually enjoy it because everyone told me not to do it. So I think I had a few drinks and one night I was like, I'm doing it. And I just did it. I'm like, this is great. I haven't been on one date. No, don't get me wrong. I haven't engaged at all. I'm a creeper face. Figuring this thing out. What is this thing?

I actually like it. I actually enjoy it. I actually. Oh, really? No, I actually enjoy it because everyone told me not to do it. So I think I had a few drinks and one night I was like, I'm doing it. And I just did it. I'm like, this is great. I haven't been on one date. No, don't get me wrong. I haven't engaged at all. I'm a creeper face. Figuring this thing out. What is this thing?

I actually like it. I actually enjoy it. I actually. Oh, really? No, I actually enjoy it because everyone told me not to do it. So I think I had a few drinks and one night I was like, I'm doing it. And I just did it. I'm like, this is great. I haven't been on one date. No, don't get me wrong. I haven't engaged at all. I'm a creeper face. Figuring this thing out. What is this thing?

It's intimidating. Have you done it? Any of the action on it? Oh my God, yes.

It's intimidating. Have you done it? Any of the action on it? Oh my God, yes.

It's intimidating. Have you done it? Any of the action on it? Oh my God, yes.

Yes.

Yes.

Yes.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, it's definitely weird. And I definitely have no expectation. I'm not like, I don't even know really what I want. I'm just trying to, you know, it's just like another avenue to maybe meet somebody. Right. But yeah, the only connection I've had is like, oh, cool. Oh, Indonesia. Why? Yeah. Okay, great. What am I going to go to Bali? Never. Okay. Weirdo.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, it's definitely weird. And I definitely have no expectation. I'm not like, I don't even know really what I want. I'm just trying to, you know, it's just like another avenue to maybe meet somebody. Right. But yeah, the only connection I've had is like, oh, cool. Oh, Indonesia. Why? Yeah. Okay, great. What am I going to go to Bali? Never. Okay. Weirdo.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, it's definitely weird. And I definitely have no expectation. I'm not like, I don't even know really what I want. I'm just trying to, you know, it's just like another avenue to maybe meet somebody. Right. But yeah, the only connection I've had is like, oh, cool. Oh, Indonesia. Why? Yeah. Okay, great. What am I going to go to Bali? Never. Okay. Weirdo.

It's insane.

It's insane.

It's insane.

We know, you know, not as often as you think. She does have a key to my house. And so a lot of times I know it's not that big of a deal. A lot of times I'll just like I flew out last week to go work in Toronto. I'm like, hey, Shiner's name Shiner after a Texas beer. Very stupid. I'm like Shiner's in the house. Just go in there and take him. And she just goes and picks him up. I'm not even there.

We know, you know, not as often as you think. She does have a key to my house. And so a lot of times I know it's not that big of a deal. A lot of times I'll just like I flew out last week to go work in Toronto. I'm like, hey, Shiner's name Shiner after a Texas beer. Very stupid. I'm like Shiner's in the house. Just go in there and take him. And she just goes and picks him up. I'm not even there.

We know, you know, not as often as you think. She does have a key to my house. And so a lot of times I know it's not that big of a deal. A lot of times I'll just like I flew out last week to go work in Toronto. I'm like, hey, Shiner's name Shiner after a Texas beer. Very stupid. I'm like Shiner's in the house. Just go in there and take him. And she just goes and picks him up. I'm not even there.

Yeah. I think – Just say yes. I am. I'm not – I like to cook. So I do like to cook for girls. Okay. That's romantic. I like to – and I'm a homebody. So I like to – When I'm in it, I do. I really do like to focus and do the thing and be very thoughtful. I feel like I'm a thoughtful person, so yeah.

Yeah. I think – Just say yes. I am. I'm not – I like to cook. So I do like to cook for girls. Okay. That's romantic. I like to – and I'm a homebody. So I like to – When I'm in it, I do. I really do like to focus and do the thing and be very thoughtful. I feel like I'm a thoughtful person, so yeah.

Yeah. I think – Just say yes. I am. I'm not – I like to cook. So I do like to cook for girls. Okay. That's romantic. I like to – and I'm a homebody. So I like to – When I'm in it, I do. I really do like to focus and do the thing and be very thoughtful. I feel like I'm a thoughtful person, so yeah.

I think I'm okay. Okay. I mean, everyone, they're awful though, right? Horrible. But it's like I have generally met people through friends of friends or through kind of indirect ways. Yep. So the first dates are always like interview process, campaigning, you know what I mean? Yeah. Uh, but you, when you know, you know, kind of like right away, I can still get through a first date.

I think I'm okay. Okay. I mean, everyone, they're awful though, right? Horrible. But it's like I have generally met people through friends of friends or through kind of indirect ways. Yep. So the first dates are always like interview process, campaigning, you know what I mean? Yeah. Uh, but you, when you know, you know, kind of like right away, I can still get through a first date.

I think I'm okay. Okay. I mean, everyone, they're awful though, right? Horrible. But it's like I have generally met people through friends of friends or through kind of indirect ways. Yep. So the first dates are always like interview process, campaigning, you know what I mean? Yeah. Uh, but you, when you know, you know, kind of like right away, I can still get through a first date.

That's like, well, you don't, you know, it's like, okay, we're going to be friends maybe, but that's a good point.

That's like, well, you don't, you know, it's like, okay, we're going to be friends maybe, but that's a good point.

That's like, well, you don't, you know, it's like, okay, we're going to be friends maybe, but that's a good point.

Yeah. And then it becomes, I've definitely been awkward on first date.

Yeah. And then it becomes, I've definitely been awkward on first date.

Yeah. And then it becomes, I've definitely been awkward on first date.

Yeah, you know, you can't wait. What are you going to do? Ghost out the back? Oh, I left my keys.

Yeah, you know, you can't wait. What are you going to do? Ghost out the back? Oh, I left my keys.

Yeah, you know, you can't wait. What are you going to do? Ghost out the back? Oh, I left my keys.

Like, what the fuck? If people do that, though, I've had friend buddies that like girls have done that.

Like, what the fuck? If people do that, though, I've had friend buddies that like girls have done that.

Like, what the fuck? If people do that, though, I've had friend buddies that like girls have done that.

Absolutely. Yeah.

Absolutely. Yeah.

Absolutely. Yeah.

oh how many times that's a good question probably at least two at least two because have you had those where you're like was that love or it was love in the moment but now that i've grown up maybe you like redefine it a little bit right one was pretty instantaneous and then another one was over time over time so i've kind of experienced both and i don't really subscribe to the idea that there's like one soulmate for you i think there's

oh how many times that's a good question probably at least two at least two because have you had those where you're like was that love or it was love in the moment but now that i've grown up maybe you like redefine it a little bit right one was pretty instantaneous and then another one was over time over time so i've kind of experienced both and i don't really subscribe to the idea that there's like one soulmate for you i think there's

oh how many times that's a good question probably at least two at least two because have you had those where you're like was that love or it was love in the moment but now that i've grown up maybe you like redefine it a little bit right one was pretty instantaneous and then another one was over time over time so i've kind of experienced both and i don't really subscribe to the idea that there's like one soulmate for you i think there's

a handful maybe, uh, however you want to, but it's definitely once in a blue moon that you meet very rarely. You're going to meet someone that you really connect with and what you do with that, you know, is, is a timing thing. And then maybe, you know, it can, it can work out or it doesn't. Um, but we all have those things that might not have closure. You know what I mean? And that's okay.

a handful maybe, uh, however you want to, but it's definitely once in a blue moon that you meet very rarely. You're going to meet someone that you really connect with and what you do with that, you know, is, is a timing thing. And then maybe, you know, it can, it can work out or it doesn't. Um, but we all have those things that might not have closure. You know what I mean? And that's okay.

a handful maybe, uh, however you want to, but it's definitely once in a blue moon that you meet very rarely. You're going to meet someone that you really connect with and what you do with that, you know, is, is a timing thing. And then maybe, you know, it can, it can work out or it doesn't. Um, but we all have those things that might not have closure. You know what I mean? And that's okay.

It's, you don't have to have like closure, but there's, there's open ended things. You're thinking like, maybe if I'd been more evolved or like I'd been like five, five years older and a different place in my life, there's a few times where I definitely not regret, but I'm like, Oh, I wish I'd been in a different place in my life.

It's, you don't have to have like closure, but there's, there's open ended things. You're thinking like, maybe if I'd been more evolved or like I'd been like five, five years older and a different place in my life, there's a few times where I definitely not regret, but I'm like, Oh, I wish I'd been in a different place in my life.

It's, you don't have to have like closure, but there's, there's open ended things. You're thinking like, maybe if I'd been more evolved or like I'd been like five, five years older and a different place in my life, there's a few times where I definitely not regret, but I'm like, Oh, I wish I'd been in a different place in my life.

Right.

Right.

Right.

But sometimes, yeah, we're still like friends and cordial. It's great.

But sometimes, yeah, we're still like friends and cordial. It's great.

But sometimes, yeah, we're still like friends and cordial. It's great.

Amazing. Yeah, I could have had it all like Peaky Blinders. No. But, but, but yeah, I've like been, and I'm like, God, I was such a, I was such a head case back then. Why couldn't I have like, just like not been an asshole, you know, when I was doing my own stuff, like I was just, you know, you know, whatever you want to call it, mental health stuff.

Amazing. Yeah, I could have had it all like Peaky Blinders. No. But, but, but yeah, I've like been, and I'm like, God, I was such a, I was such a head case back then. Why couldn't I have like, just like not been an asshole, you know, when I was doing my own stuff, like I was just, you know, you know, whatever you want to call it, mental health stuff.

Amazing. Yeah, I could have had it all like Peaky Blinders. No. But, but, but yeah, I've like been, and I'm like, God, I was such a, I was such a head case back then. Why couldn't I have like, just like not been an asshole, you know, when I was doing my own stuff, like I was just, you know, you know, whatever you want to call it, mental health stuff.

It was just like, I was in a bad place and not dealing with it. You know what I mean? I was like, like just, just avoiding.

It was just like, I was in a bad place and not dealing with it. You know what I mean? I was like, like just, just avoiding.

It was just like, I was in a bad place and not dealing with it. You know what I mean? I was like, like just, just avoiding.

Of course, exactly. Like when I moved back from New York and I was in that kind of funk, I met a girl who was like incredible and went on to be very successful.

Of course, exactly. Like when I moved back from New York and I was in that kind of funk, I met a girl who was like incredible and went on to be very successful.

Of course, exactly. Like when I moved back from New York and I was in that kind of funk, I met a girl who was like incredible and went on to be very successful.

No.

No.

No.

It was a bad TV show, but it was like in 2015 maybe or something like that. We're still good friends. She's great. She's a very great person. Shout out. Yeah. But we both travel. We both have to deal with the dog. I'm defending myself.

It was a bad TV show, but it was like in 2015 maybe or something like that. We're still good friends. She's great. She's a very great person. Shout out. Yeah. But we both travel. We both have to deal with the dog. I'm defending myself.

It was a bad TV show, but it was like in 2015 maybe or something like that. We're still good friends. She's great. She's a very great person. Shout out. Yeah. But we both travel. We both have to deal with the dog. I'm defending myself.

It works. It can work. I'm telling you. Oh, man.

It works. It can work. I'm telling you. Oh, man.

It works. It can work. I'm telling you. Oh, man.

she wasn't in a good space. And I just kind of let it slide. I let it kind of float away. And she was like, we'd be in town and reaching out. And we kind of had it, you know, hooked up, had a thing in New York when we were both there. And then, and then, um, Yeah. I just, I think about some of those things. Like if I had just been in a different, you can't help that though.

she wasn't in a good space. And I just kind of let it slide. I let it kind of float away. And she was like, we'd be in town and reaching out. And we kind of had it, you know, hooked up, had a thing in New York when we were both there. And then, and then, um, Yeah. I just, I think about some of those things. Like if I had just been in a different, you can't help that though.

she wasn't in a good space. And I just kind of let it slide. I let it kind of float away. And she was like, we'd be in town and reaching out. And we kind of had it, you know, hooked up, had a thing in New York when we were both there. And then, and then, um, Yeah. I just, I think about some of those things. Like if I had just been in a different, you can't help that though.

You're, you're, you're, you get what you get and it's a timey thing and it's just life. But I do think about those kind of missed moments from time to time.

You're, you're, you're, you get what you get and it's a timey thing and it's just life. But I do think about those kind of missed moments from time to time.

You're, you're, you're, you get what you get and it's a timey thing and it's just life. But I do think about those kind of missed moments from time to time.

No, totally. Yes.

No, totally. Yes.

No, totally. Yes.

It's out there in the world. It is. No, it is. It's half my dog's face and half my face in one shot. Yeah, it's great.

It's out there in the world. It is. No, it is. It's half my dog's face and half my face in one shot. Yeah, it's great.

It's out there in the world. It is. No, it is. It's half my dog's face and half my face in one shot. Yeah, it's great.

Right, right. I never let that happen, I guess. I drop him off sometimes. She lives close by me and whatnot.

Right, right. I never let that happen, I guess. I drop him off sometimes. She lives close by me and whatnot.

Right, right. I never let that happen, I guess. I drop him off sometimes. She lives close by me and whatnot.

It's not a signed headshot or anything. Right, right, right. But you know, but no, things I look for, I guess for me, I do, I am like a closet reader and like kind of a nerd. I do like to be able to have like kind of, you know, in-depth conversation. Sense of humor is kind of a big one for me. And you know, and that's kind of an umbrella thing, right?

It's not a signed headshot or anything. Right, right, right. But you know, but no, things I look for, I guess for me, I do, I am like a closet reader and like kind of a nerd. I do like to be able to have like kind of, you know, in-depth conversation. Sense of humor is kind of a big one for me. And you know, and that's kind of an umbrella thing, right?

It's not a signed headshot or anything. Right, right, right. But you know, but no, things I look for, I guess for me, I do, I am like a closet reader and like kind of a nerd. I do like to be able to have like kind of, you know, in-depth conversation. Sense of humor is kind of a big one for me. And you know, and that's kind of an umbrella thing, right?

That if they have that wit and you kind of have that back and forth and that weird connection, you know, where you can make each other laugh. And that's an umbrella like personality, wit, intelligence thing. It's like if that, that's kind of the number one thing, you know?

That if they have that wit and you kind of have that back and forth and that weird connection, you know, where you can make each other laugh. And that's an umbrella like personality, wit, intelligence thing. It's like if that, that's kind of the number one thing, you know?

That if they have that wit and you kind of have that back and forth and that weird connection, you know, where you can make each other laugh. And that's an umbrella like personality, wit, intelligence thing. It's like if that, that's kind of the number one thing, you know?

I'd prefer not, actually.

I'd prefer not, actually.

I'd prefer not, actually.

At this stage in my life. I get it. Right? Yeah. I mean, I think it's... That's part of the reason I was like... I saw my buddies on dates with these, like, med students and neuroscientists. I'm like, where is it? They're like, Raya. I'm like, okay. You know? So, there really are... I've seen so far. I'm like, a weekend. There are other people that do other things.

At this stage in my life. I get it. Right? Yeah. I mean, I think it's... That's part of the reason I was like... I saw my buddies on dates with these, like, med students and neuroscientists. I'm like, where is it? They're like, Raya. I'm like, okay. You know? So, there really are... I've seen so far. I'm like, a weekend. There are other people that do other things.

At this stage in my life. I get it. Right? Yeah. I mean, I think it's... That's part of the reason I was like... I saw my buddies on dates with these, like, med students and neuroscientists. I'm like, where is it? They're like, Raya. I'm like, okay. You know? So, there really are... I've seen so far. I'm like, a weekend. There are other people that do other things.

And I'm, like, trying to... It's such a bubble out here. You know what I mean? So, it's... It's a lot.

And I'm, like, trying to... It's such a bubble out here. You know what I mean? So, it's... It's a lot.

And I'm, like, trying to... It's such a bubble out here. You know what I mean? So, it's... It's a lot.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah, probably. Yes. I would love. Yeah. I see psychotherapists on there sometimes. I'm like, there you go. Save some money. Yes. Switch therapist right now.

Yeah, probably. Yes. I would love. Yeah. I see psychotherapists on there sometimes. I'm like, there you go. Save some money. Yes. Switch therapist right now.

Yeah, probably. Yes. I would love. Yeah. I see psychotherapists on there sometimes. I'm like, there you go. Save some money. Yes. Switch therapist right now.

Deal breaker. Oh, man. Yeah. Oh, bad tats? I don't know.

Deal breaker. Oh, man. Yeah. Oh, bad tats? I don't know.

Deal breaker. Oh, man. Yeah. Oh, bad tats? I don't know.

I don't know. That's a stupid one because I really don't care about that.

I don't know. That's a stupid one because I really don't care about that.

I don't know. That's a stupid one because I really don't care about that.

Oh, this girl's gone. I mean, this dog takes precedent. I think I might love that dog more than my future child. Yeah.

Oh, this girl's gone. I mean, this dog takes precedent. I think I might love that dog more than my future child. Yeah.

Oh, this girl's gone. I mean, this dog takes precedent. I think I might love that dog more than my future child. Yeah.

Maybe like a neck tat is probably like a deal breaker. I don't know. You know, I guess a neck tat.

Maybe like a neck tat is probably like a deal breaker. I don't know. You know, I guess a neck tat.

Maybe like a neck tat is probably like a deal breaker. I don't know. You know, I guess a neck tat.

I haven't. That's the thing. It's actually never happened.

I haven't. That's the thing. It's actually never happened.

I haven't. That's the thing. It's actually never happened.

You know, but tattoos are so ubiquitous. But like, they're not bad. But, but, uh.

You know, but tattoos are so ubiquitous. But like, they're not bad. But, but, uh.

You know, but tattoos are so ubiquitous. But like, they're not bad. But, but, uh.

Once kind of, not really, I think. So we had like plans, like holiday plans and like moving into the next phase of the relationship. And she abruptly broke up with me. And then I found out that it was like, she was, there was like an opportunity for someone like a famous person, a really famous person, like Uber. And then she thought that they were gonna date and that didn't happen.

Once kind of, not really, I think. So we had like plans, like holiday plans and like moving into the next phase of the relationship. And she abruptly broke up with me. And then I found out that it was like, she was, there was like an opportunity for someone like a famous person, a really famous person, like Uber. And then she thought that they were gonna date and that didn't happen.

Once kind of, not really, I think. So we had like plans, like holiday plans and like moving into the next phase of the relationship. And she abruptly broke up with me. And then I found out that it was like, she was, there was like an opportunity for someone like a famous person, a really famous person, like Uber. And then she thought that they were gonna date and that didn't happen.

But that was the only closest thing. Yeah, to that. That sucked.

But that was the only closest thing. Yeah, to that. That sucked.

But that was the only closest thing. Yeah, to that. That sucked.

But I'm perspective. It was like, I have perspective on that. So I was like, okay, whatever.

But I'm perspective. It was like, I have perspective on that. So I was like, okay, whatever.

But I'm perspective. It was like, I have perspective on that. So I was like, okay, whatever.

Totally. No, it actually helps. It actually kind of helps.

Totally. No, it actually helps. It actually kind of helps.

Totally. No, it actually helps. It actually kind of helps.

I was like, ooh, I didn't see that coming. That's a very interesting thing to know.

I was like, ooh, I didn't see that coming. That's a very interesting thing to know.

I was like, ooh, I didn't see that coming. That's a very interesting thing to know.

Right, right, right. Okay.

Right, right, right. Okay.

Right, right, right. Okay.

No. I have not. No, I'm actually very, I have like almost the opposite of trust. I'm almost like too trusting of people. Yeah. I'm like, just go do your own thing. I need my own space. I'm great.

No. I have not. No, I'm actually very, I have like almost the opposite of trust. I'm almost like too trusting of people. Yeah. I'm like, just go do your own thing. I need my own space. I'm great.

No. I have not. No, I'm actually very, I have like almost the opposite of trust. I'm almost like too trusting of people. Yeah. I'm like, just go do your own thing. I need my own space. I'm great.

Girls night, go to Mexico. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Go have fun. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Girls night, go to Mexico. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Go have fun. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Girls night, go to Mexico. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Go have fun. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Someone did go through my phone once. It was bad.

Someone did go through my phone once. It was bad.

Someone did go through my phone once. It was bad.

No, I woke up in the middle of the night to them freaking out.

No, I woke up in the middle of the night to them freaking out.

No, I woke up in the middle of the night to them freaking out.

no yeah i mean listen if you're gonna listen okay we love this on color daddy if you're gonna go through anybody's phone you're gonna find something that you don't like totally even like a text with their mother yeah yeah yeah you're gonna find something you don't like so and i will say there was nothing bad i wasn't cheating or anything um but but you know it was not fun and i was very felt violated but you can't like you know it's like a weird thing

no yeah i mean listen if you're gonna listen okay we love this on color daddy if you're gonna go through anybody's phone you're gonna find something that you don't like totally even like a text with their mother yeah yeah yeah you're gonna find something you don't like so and i will say there was nothing bad i wasn't cheating or anything um but but you know it was not fun and i was very felt violated but you can't like you know it's like a weird thing

no yeah i mean listen if you're gonna listen okay we love this on color daddy if you're gonna go through anybody's phone you're gonna find something that you don't like totally even like a text with their mother yeah yeah yeah you're gonna find something you don't like so and i will say there was nothing bad i wasn't cheating or anything um but but you know it was not fun and i was very felt violated but you can't like you know it's like a weird thing

Oh my God. I'm like, what? And then the first thing I was like, wait, what'd you, what are you talking about? Right. Like, what did you read? I really don't think I have any thing weird in there, but yeah, it was, it was a moment for sure. Yeah. Yeah.

Oh my God. I'm like, what? And then the first thing I was like, wait, what'd you, what are you talking about? Right. Like, what did you read? I really don't think I have any thing weird in there, but yeah, it was, it was a moment for sure. Yeah. Yeah.

Oh my God. I'm like, what? And then the first thing I was like, wait, what'd you, what are you talking about? Right. Like, what did you read? I really don't think I have any thing weird in there, but yeah, it was, it was a moment for sure. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah, we did. Yeah, we worked it out. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah, we did. Yeah, we worked it out. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah, we did. Yeah, we worked it out. Yeah.

Another year. Okay. And a half. Okay. Yeah. Wow. Another year and a half.

Another year. Okay. And a half. Okay. Yeah. Wow. Another year and a half.

Another year. Okay. And a half. Okay. Yeah. Wow. Another year and a half.

I didn't actually. I didn't. I didn't. But I got dragged to couples therapy. No! Which I actually loved. You did? I didn't love it, but I thought it was a good... It wasn't what I thought it was going to be. I think guys are very afraid of that. I've always been open to therapy. I do it now. And I think it's like going to the gym, right? It's like you go to the gym for a certain thing.

I didn't actually. I didn't. I didn't. But I got dragged to couples therapy. No! Which I actually loved. You did? I didn't love it, but I thought it was a good... It wasn't what I thought it was going to be. I think guys are very afraid of that. I've always been open to therapy. I do it now. And I think it's like going to the gym, right? It's like you go to the gym for a certain thing.

I didn't actually. I didn't. I didn't. But I got dragged to couples therapy. No! Which I actually loved. You did? I didn't love it, but I thought it was a good... It wasn't what I thought it was going to be. I think guys are very afraid of that. I've always been open to therapy. I do it now. And I think it's like going to the gym, right? It's like you go to the gym for a certain thing.

It's a very specific thing. People make it this like there's a stigma behind it. There's no stigma.

It's a very specific thing. People make it this like there's a stigma behind it. There's no stigma.

It's a very specific thing. People make it this like there's a stigma behind it. There's no stigma.

And it was amazing because you weren't giving like just this cliche road advice to women. You're like, fuck it. This is how we're seeing. This is what the guys were seeing in New York or whatever.

And it was amazing because you weren't giving like just this cliche road advice to women. You're like, fuck it. This is how we're seeing. This is what the guys were seeing in New York or whatever.

And it was amazing because you weren't giving like just this cliche road advice to women. You're like, fuck it. This is how we're seeing. This is what the guys were seeing in New York or whatever.

Outgoing, funny, hopefully. I like to think I can cook a little bit. But if they were being honest, I don't know. Maybe he's a bad texter. I'm being honest. I'm not that great.

Outgoing, funny, hopefully. I like to think I can cook a little bit. But if they were being honest, I don't know. Maybe he's a bad texter. I'm being honest. I'm not that great.

Outgoing, funny, hopefully. I like to think I can cook a little bit. But if they were being honest, I don't know. Maybe he's a bad texter. I'm being honest. I'm not that great.

more aware of where he's coming from because you have a person in the room that like is so unbiased neutral moderator and it's like this time you can you can air out those things safely yeah and it's just about being a fucking adult like you learn how to be an adult like at least for me in this relationship and i was like okay and it was very nice you know when you're doing it doesn't feel like going to the dentist kind of you don't want to do it but it's you know it's like you do it and it was a really great thing yeah yeah

more aware of where he's coming from because you have a person in the room that like is so unbiased neutral moderator and it's like this time you can you can air out those things safely yeah and it's just about being a fucking adult like you learn how to be an adult like at least for me in this relationship and i was like okay and it was very nice you know when you're doing it doesn't feel like going to the dentist kind of you don't want to do it but it's you know it's like you do it and it was a really great thing yeah yeah

more aware of where he's coming from because you have a person in the room that like is so unbiased neutral moderator and it's like this time you can you can air out those things safely yeah and it's just about being a fucking adult like you learn how to be an adult like at least for me in this relationship and i was like okay and it was very nice you know when you're doing it doesn't feel like going to the dentist kind of you don't want to do it but it's you know it's like you do it and it was a really great thing yeah yeah

I apologize.

I apologize.

I apologize.

Right.

Right.

Right.

obviously no and now obviously I'm looking at you in the same outfit every scene I'm like this is kind of interesting obviously people haven't watched it the boys this is season four season four the boys yeah coming out tell me about it it's great it's the most fun I've ever had doing anything really I mean not like you know just like work wise like the character it's comedy it's so much fun right we're making fun of like the privileged you know male asshole you know what I mean like that guy the costume's great because I never have any fittings I don't have to come in and do extra fittings so it's like one little thing

obviously no and now obviously I'm looking at you in the same outfit every scene I'm like this is kind of interesting obviously people haven't watched it the boys this is season four season four the boys yeah coming out tell me about it it's great it's the most fun I've ever had doing anything really I mean not like you know just like work wise like the character it's comedy it's so much fun right we're making fun of like the privileged you know male asshole you know what I mean like that guy the costume's great because I never have any fittings I don't have to come in and do extra fittings so it's like one little thing

obviously no and now obviously I'm looking at you in the same outfit every scene I'm like this is kind of interesting obviously people haven't watched it the boys this is season four season four the boys yeah coming out tell me about it it's great it's the most fun I've ever had doing anything really I mean not like you know just like work wise like the character it's comedy it's so much fun right we're making fun of like the privileged you know male asshole you know what I mean like that guy the costume's great because I never have any fittings I don't have to come in and do extra fittings so it's like one little thing

Costume's a little bit of a pain in the ass, but it's okay. But it's great. Yeah, the show's awesome.

Costume's a little bit of a pain in the ass, but it's okay. But it's great. Yeah, the show's awesome.

Costume's a little bit of a pain in the ass, but it's okay. But it's great. Yeah, the show's awesome.

I didn't even think about that until you started doing it. I'm like, I know exactly. I forgot about that. There's a story there.

I didn't even think about that until you started doing it. I'm like, I know exactly. I forgot about that. There's a story there.

I didn't even think about that until you started doing it. I'm like, I know exactly. I forgot about that. There's a story there.

Which is really funny because it was great press for the show when it first came out because no one knew if the show was going to work. Amazing. But also the creator was like, never tell anyone that was never telling when the real story that was you.

Which is really funny because it was great press for the show when it first came out because no one knew if the show was going to work. Amazing. But also the creator was like, never tell anyone that was never telling when the real story that was you.

Which is really funny because it was great press for the show when it first came out because no one knew if the show was going to work. Amazing. But also the creator was like, never tell anyone that was never telling when the real story that was you.

It was me. No, but this calendar came out right. This calendar came out of me and the character. And there was this massive rocket in the suit and they made this calendar and it was really funny and very in character, too. But no one knew it's a satire of a show. I don't know. People are seeing this like, what is this? Seth Rogen and Evan Goldberg produce it. They're amazing.

It was me. No, but this calendar came out right. This calendar came out of me and the character. And there was this massive rocket in the suit and they made this calendar and it was really funny and very in character, too. But no one knew it's a satire of a show. I don't know. People are seeing this like, what is this? Seth Rogen and Evan Goldberg produce it. They're amazing.

It was me. No, but this calendar came out right. This calendar came out of me and the character. And there was this massive rocket in the suit and they made this calendar and it was really funny and very in character, too. But no one knew it's a satire of a show. I don't know. People are seeing this like, what is this? Seth Rogen and Evan Goldberg produce it. They're amazing.

And they thought it would be really funny in the Genesis. We hadn't even filmed anything. We were doing the suits. What if the Deep just had a raging erection in a third of the scenes? I thought it was brilliant. I'm like, that's great. It's hilarious. It's hilarious. So then the fittings started showing up. And they had a box. The character's name is the Deep. They had a box called Little Deeps.

And they thought it would be really funny in the Genesis. We hadn't even filmed anything. We were doing the suits. What if the Deep just had a raging erection in a third of the scenes? I thought it was brilliant. I'm like, that's great. It's hilarious. It's hilarious. So then the fittings started showing up. And they had a box. The character's name is the Deep. They had a box called Little Deeps.

And they thought it would be really funny in the Genesis. We hadn't even filmed anything. We were doing the suits. What if the Deep just had a raging erection in a third of the scenes? I thought it was brilliant. I'm like, that's great. It's hilarious. It's hilarious. So then the fittings started showing up. And they had a box. The character's name is the Deep. They had a box called Little Deeps.

And it was all these different foam pieces. All different types. I'm obsessed. Settle on one. Walking around. Oh no, first we did, so that's what happened. We did a big, we did all these like screen test camera, camera shoots, photo shoots with this thing. Yes. So we hadn't actually shot. Amazon hasn't really even seen anything.

And it was all these different foam pieces. All different types. I'm obsessed. Settle on one. Walking around. Oh no, first we did, so that's what happened. We did a big, we did all these like screen test camera, camera shoots, photo shoots with this thing. Yes. So we hadn't actually shot. Amazon hasn't really even seen anything.

And it was all these different foam pieces. All different types. I'm obsessed. Settle on one. Walking around. Oh no, first we did, so that's what happened. We did a big, we did all these like screen test camera, camera shoots, photo shoots with this thing. Yes. So we hadn't actually shot. Amazon hasn't really even seen anything.

My first day on set, it's like a big Toronto, big, big stage. I'm in front of like 2000 people and like come out and I'm like introducing Aaron Moriarty's character.

My first day on set, it's like a big Toronto, big, big stage. I'm in front of like 2000 people and like come out and I'm like introducing Aaron Moriarty's character.

My first day on set, it's like a big Toronto, big, big stage. I'm in front of like 2000 people and like come out and I'm like introducing Aaron Moriarty's character.

and everyone just starts laughing because it's so funny the light you can really see this were you at all like anxious about it or you thought it was hilarious i thought it was hilarious i wasn't anxious about i kind of thought though i'm like guys we got to remove it sometimes right it can't be like in there forever it looks ridiculous it's so it's so obvious it's so funny it's so funny and so i'm like and literally they didn't amazon gave us no notes they let us do whatever the only note first that was like

and everyone just starts laughing because it's so funny the light you can really see this were you at all like anxious about it or you thought it was hilarious i thought it was hilarious i wasn't anxious about i kind of thought though i'm like guys we got to remove it sometimes right it can't be like in there forever it looks ridiculous it's so it's so obvious it's so funny it's so funny and so i'm like and literally they didn't amazon gave us no notes they let us do whatever the only note first that was like

and everyone just starts laughing because it's so funny the light you can really see this were you at all like anxious about it or you thought it was hilarious i thought it was hilarious i wasn't anxious about i kind of thought though i'm like guys we got to remove it sometimes right it can't be like in there forever it looks ridiculous it's so it's so obvious it's so funny it's so funny and so i'm like and literally they didn't amazon gave us no notes they let us do whatever the only note first that was like

You got to take that thing out of Deep's pants. You got to take that thing out. So they actually spent so much money frame by frame editing out that scene just in that area for that scene in the pilot, the first episode. Everyone forgot that we did all these. So whoever thought in the PR thought it'd be funny to make a calendar out of it was genius.

You got to take that thing out of Deep's pants. You got to take that thing out. So they actually spent so much money frame by frame editing out that scene just in that area for that scene in the pilot, the first episode. Everyone forgot that we did all these. So whoever thought in the PR thought it'd be funny to make a calendar out of it was genius.

You got to take that thing out of Deep's pants. You got to take that thing out. So they actually spent so much money frame by frame editing out that scene just in that area for that scene in the pilot, the first episode. Everyone forgot that we did all these. So whoever thought in the PR thought it'd be funny to make a calendar out of it was genius.

But the calendar came out and then people didn't know. They had no idea what's going on.

But the calendar came out and then people didn't know. They had no idea what's going on.

But the calendar came out and then people didn't know. They had no idea what's going on.

Like it looks real. I mean, it looks very real. You never think it'd be like a fake.

Like it looks real. I mean, it looks very real. You never think it'd be like a fake.

Like it looks real. I mean, it looks very real. You never think it'd be like a fake.

Boner calendar. I mean, you know, it was great.

Boner calendar. I mean, you know, it was great.

Boner calendar. I mean, you know, it was great.

Loving it. Yeah. Yeah. Still loving it.

Loving it. Yeah. Yeah. Still loving it.

Loving it. Yeah. Yeah. Still loving it.

It was complete opposite of Gossip Girl. It was like Christmas time. They were like, we got to cast the superheroes. And the superheroes are the bad guys for no one's watched the show. It's like the satire. Because they said they had to make the suits. Anyway, I'm like, there's no way that they're not going to bring people back in the new year. Dead Zone is December.

It was complete opposite of Gossip Girl. It was like Christmas time. They were like, we got to cast the superheroes. And the superheroes are the bad guys for no one's watched the show. It's like the satire. Because they said they had to make the suits. Anyway, I'm like, there's no way that they're not going to bring people back in the new year. Dead Zone is December.

It was complete opposite of Gossip Girl. It was like Christmas time. They were like, we got to cast the superheroes. And the superheroes are the bad guys for no one's watched the show. It's like the satire. Because they said they had to make the suits. Anyway, I'm like, there's no way that they're not going to bring people back in the new year. Dead Zone is December.

Even Thanksgiving through December. Oh my God, do I really got to go in for this audition? I love the material. I'm like, this is amazing. Get there. It's complete opposite. I'm like very annoyed. I'm like, I'm like last. Right.

Even Thanksgiving through December. Oh my God, do I really got to go in for this audition? I love the material. I'm like, this is amazing. Get there. It's complete opposite. I'm like very annoyed. I'm like, I'm like last. Right.

Even Thanksgiving through December. Oh my God, do I really got to go in for this audition? I love the material. I'm like, this is amazing. Get there. It's complete opposite. I'm like very annoyed. I'm like, I'm like last. Right.

It's a ton of actors in there. Well, it's just like a cow. It's like a lot of actors audition and they audition everyone, no matter who you were. But I went in there and felt really good about the audition. I felt like I had the creator laughing and the scenes were funny, kind of felt like I nailed it. And then they're like, oh, we want to test him or whatever, like the day after.

It's a ton of actors in there. Well, it's just like a cow. It's like a lot of actors audition and they audition everyone, no matter who you were. But I went in there and felt really good about the audition. I felt like I had the creator laughing and the scenes were funny, kind of felt like I nailed it. And then they're like, oh, we want to test him or whatever, like the day after.

It's a ton of actors in there. Well, it's just like a cow. It's like a lot of actors audition and they audition everyone, no matter who you were. But I went in there and felt really good about the audition. I felt like I had the creator laughing and the scenes were funny, kind of felt like I nailed it. And then they're like, oh, we want to test him or whatever, like the day after.

And I'm like, perfect, great. So we'll go back in for like round three, four, five, like in the new year. And she's like, no, they're just going to use that tape you just did. And I was like, well, do I need to do it better? Can I make some changes?

And I'm like, perfect, great. So we'll go back in for like round three, four, five, like in the new year. And she's like, no, they're just going to use that tape you just did. And I was like, well, do I need to do it better? Can I make some changes?

And I'm like, perfect, great. So we'll go back in for like round three, four, five, like in the new year. And she's like, no, they're just going to use that tape you just did. And I was like, well, do I need to do it better? Can I make some changes?

Yeah, totally.

Yeah, totally.

Yeah, totally.

and i got nervous because i'm like they're like no they're just gonna play it in front of all the amazon sony people and i'm like that's how it works these days i'm like i have been out of the game right but but but they and that's what happened it was like very quick they kind of did the deal and they did it between me and i think some other person and then we and then they and then yeah i had the job like before christmas i was like wow this is awesome i don't have to go through like a month of like pulling my pulling my hair out right like it was one and done yeah yeah because then the longer you go the more you want the job if you like it you're like i want this thing and i'm like used to

and i got nervous because i'm like they're like no they're just gonna play it in front of all the amazon sony people and i'm like that's how it works these days i'm like i have been out of the game right but but but they and that's what happened it was like very quick they kind of did the deal and they did it between me and i think some other person and then we and then they and then yeah i had the job like before christmas i was like wow this is awesome i don't have to go through like a month of like pulling my pulling my hair out right like it was one and done yeah yeah because then the longer you go the more you want the job if you like it you're like i want this thing and i'm like used to

and i got nervous because i'm like they're like no they're just gonna play it in front of all the amazon sony people and i'm like that's how it works these days i'm like i have been out of the game right but but but they and that's what happened it was like very quick they kind of did the deal and they did it between me and i think some other person and then we and then they and then yeah i had the job like before christmas i was like wow this is awesome i don't have to go through like a month of like pulling my pulling my hair out right like it was one and done yeah yeah because then the longer you go the more you want the job if you like it you're like i want this thing and i'm like used to

I needed to do that. Yeah. I think I still need to do it even more, but I liked it. It was a complete shake up and a complete, um, yeah, it's a kind of dark comedy does some weird stuff in the first episode, but it's like very dark and, and, and they, and they give us an opportunity to show some range. So it's like comedy and some weird like insecurity there.

I needed to do that. Yeah. I think I still need to do it even more, but I liked it. It was a complete shake up and a complete, um, yeah, it's a kind of dark comedy does some weird stuff in the first episode, but it's like very dark and, and, and they, and they give us an opportunity to show some range. So it's like comedy and some weird like insecurity there.

I needed to do that. Yeah. I think I still need to do it even more, but I liked it. It was a complete shake up and a complete, um, yeah, it's a kind of dark comedy does some weird stuff in the first episode, but it's like very dark and, and, and they, and they give us an opportunity to show some range. So it's like comedy and some weird like insecurity there.

And like, it's good, good to show the color.

And like, it's good, good to show the color.

And like, it's good, good to show the color.

I'm not, you know, I got no, I'm going to Tahoe with the family in like July is around my birthday. I do like a 4th of July in Idaho with some friends up there. Fun. Displaced Gaza or whatever. And then Tahoe and then got no Italy plans. Got no Italy trip this year. Me either. I think it's okay. It's okay.

I'm not, you know, I got no, I'm going to Tahoe with the family in like July is around my birthday. I do like a 4th of July in Idaho with some friends up there. Fun. Displaced Gaza or whatever. And then Tahoe and then got no Italy plans. Got no Italy trip this year. Me either. I think it's okay. It's okay.

I'm not, you know, I got no, I'm going to Tahoe with the family in like July is around my birthday. I do like a 4th of July in Idaho with some friends up there. Fun. Displaced Gaza or whatever. And then Tahoe and then got no Italy plans. Got no Italy trip this year. Me either. I think it's okay. It's okay.

I'm not. No, no. I like to leave it. It's always on vibrate. I like to... I still like to be always attached to it. Okay. And so...

I'm not. No, no. I like to leave it. It's always on vibrate. I like to... I still like to be always attached to it. Okay. And so...

I'm not. No, no. I like to leave it. It's always on vibrate. I like to... I still like to be always attached to it. Okay. And so...

It's okay. We're over it. It's a lot. We're over it. It's a lot.

It's okay. We're over it. It's a lot. We're over it. It's a lot.

It's okay. We're over it. It's a lot. We're over it. It's a lot.

I think so too. I think so too. It's like earlier or like late season. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I think so too. I think so too. It's like earlier or like late season. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I think so too. I think so too. It's like earlier or like late season. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

She is. Yeah.

She is. Yeah.

She is. Yeah.

Yeah. It's great. He's awesome. We grew up big Cowboys fans. So that was like a good, really crazy time in our life.

Yeah. It's great. He's awesome. We grew up big Cowboys fans. So that was like a good, really crazy time in our life.

Yeah. It's great. He's awesome. We grew up big Cowboys fans. So that was like a good, really crazy time in our life.

that's good but then i'll overthink i have a little anxiety i don't know what to do so sometimes i like for i literally forget to like form a response you know i gotta get back to that so i'll forget about it and it's terrible and i'm just that's kind of how i am i'm a little scattered with the texting but do you think that's your biggest red flag like you're just a bad texter what else what's another red flag i'd like to think i got green flags no i got let me think um

that's good but then i'll overthink i have a little anxiety i don't know what to do so sometimes i like for i literally forget to like form a response you know i gotta get back to that so i'll forget about it and it's terrible and i'm just that's kind of how i am i'm a little scattered with the texting but do you think that's your biggest red flag like you're just a bad texter what else what's another red flag i'd like to think i got green flags no i got let me think um

that's good but then i'll overthink i have a little anxiety i don't know what to do so sometimes i like for i literally forget to like form a response you know i gotta get back to that so i'll forget about it and it's terrible and i'm just that's kind of how i am i'm a little scattered with the texting but do you think that's your biggest red flag like you're just a bad texter what else what's another red flag i'd like to think i got green flags no i got let me think um

Oh, they love it. Yeah, they love it. And so he's the one playing in the Tahoe Golf Tournament with some friends.

Oh, they love it. Yeah, they love it. And so he's the one playing in the Tahoe Golf Tournament with some friends.

Oh, they love it. Yeah, they love it. And so he's the one playing in the Tahoe Golf Tournament with some friends.

And so it's this whole, it's like my dad, for him, it's like better than Christmas. He loves that little time trip. Right, right, right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We go down there and hang out with the family.

And so it's this whole, it's like my dad, for him, it's like better than Christmas. He loves that little time trip. Right, right, right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We go down there and hang out with the family.

And so it's this whole, it's like my dad, for him, it's like better than Christmas. He loves that little time trip. Right, right, right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We go down there and hang out with the family.

I guess I don't. No, not like in a cool, great format, conversational. You're the best. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, this is great. I was really excited about this. Did you have fun? It was chill. I wish they were all like this, Alex. Thank you. You're awesome. Thank you for coming on. This was so fun. Absolutely. Thank you. Thank you.

I guess I don't. No, not like in a cool, great format, conversational. You're the best. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, this is great. I was really excited about this. Did you have fun? It was chill. I wish they were all like this, Alex. Thank you. You're awesome. Thank you for coming on. This was so fun. Absolutely. Thank you. Thank you.

I guess I don't. No, not like in a cool, great format, conversational. You're the best. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, this is great. I was really excited about this. Did you have fun? It was chill. I wish they were all like this, Alex. Thank you. You're awesome. Thank you for coming on. This was so fun. Absolutely. Thank you. Thank you.

You know, my exes, maybe in my 20s, might say I'm bad at communicating. So that kind of ties in. But I've learned. I've learned.

You know, my exes, maybe in my 20s, might say I'm bad at communicating. So that kind of ties in. But I've learned. I've learned.

You know, my exes, maybe in my 20s, might say I'm bad at communicating. So that kind of ties in. But I've learned. I've learned.

I'm in my late 30s now. I've gotten better. So I'm more vulnerable. Yeah.

I'm in my late 30s now. I've gotten better. So I'm more vulnerable. Yeah.

I'm in my late 30s now. I've gotten better. So I'm more vulnerable. Yeah.

Totally.

Totally.

Totally.

Oh, that's a good question. Usually, what did I do last weekend? My buddy, this next Saturday, he does these big lunches at Jolina in Venice.

Oh, that's a good question. Usually, what did I do last weekend? My buddy, this next Saturday, he does these big lunches at Jolina in Venice.

Oh, that's a good question. Usually, what did I do last weekend? My buddy, this next Saturday, he does these big lunches at Jolina in Venice.

And I lived in New York, obviously. So but but yeah, but you guys are like, this is how we're seeing it. This is the real stuff we're going to give give out. This is how you play it. This is our advice. This is what works for us. And I thought it was the best thing. I laughed. I thought it was amazing. I would listen to like full, full, like full podcast.

And I lived in New York, obviously. So but but yeah, but you guys are like, this is how we're seeing it. This is the real stuff we're going to give give out. This is how you play it. This is our advice. This is what works for us. And I thought it was the best thing. I laughed. I thought it was amazing. I would listen to like full, full, like full podcast.

And I lived in New York, obviously. So but but yeah, but you guys are like, this is how we're seeing it. This is the real stuff we're going to give give out. This is how you play it. This is our advice. This is what works for us. And I thought it was the best thing. I laughed. I thought it was amazing. I would listen to like full, full, like full podcast.

We all bring a bottle of wine, but it's like six hours. And he prefaced it with that, and I was like, I don't know if I'm going to make it six hours.

We all bring a bottle of wine, but it's like six hours. And he prefaced it with that, and I was like, I don't know if I'm going to make it six hours.

We all bring a bottle of wine, but it's like six hours. And he prefaced it with that, and I was like, I don't know if I'm going to make it six hours.

And it went by like that. So we do these little lunches with random different people. He's kind of in the food industry as a chef, so we kind of have these interesting...

And it went by like that. So we do these little lunches with random different people. He's kind of in the food industry as a chef, so we kind of have these interesting...

And it went by like that. So we do these little lunches with random different people. He's kind of in the food industry as a chef, so we kind of have these interesting...

No, no. It depends. I'm not like DiCaprio level where it's like this. I kind of have a nice pocket where it's fun to get recognized for the Gossip Girl thing still. Yeah, yeah, yeah. For sure. Which has still been this three different waves of Netflix. I don't know how it keeps coming around. But it's the same age, you know.

No, no. It depends. I'm not like DiCaprio level where it's like this. I kind of have a nice pocket where it's fun to get recognized for the Gossip Girl thing still. Yeah, yeah, yeah. For sure. Which has still been this three different waves of Netflix. I don't know how it keeps coming around. But it's the same age, you know.

No, no. It depends. I'm not like DiCaprio level where it's like this. I kind of have a nice pocket where it's fun to get recognized for the Gossip Girl thing still. Yeah, yeah, yeah. For sure. Which has still been this three different waves of Netflix. I don't know how it keeps coming around. But it's the same age, you know.

Right.

Right.

Right.

I mean, when you're young in your 20s, it's like you try everything so precious. I want to be like Marlon Brando. I was so annoyed by Gossip Girl. Right. And like even the name, I hate it. Dude, it's great. It's the greatest thing. It's amazing. It's this weird cultural thing of the zeitgeist of that time to pre-Instagram, pre-all these things. The first iPhone had just come out.

I mean, when you're young in your 20s, it's like you try everything so precious. I want to be like Marlon Brando. I was so annoyed by Gossip Girl. Right. And like even the name, I hate it. Dude, it's great. It's the greatest thing. It's amazing. It's this weird cultural thing of the zeitgeist of that time to pre-Instagram, pre-all these things. The first iPhone had just come out.

I mean, when you're young in your 20s, it's like you try everything so precious. I want to be like Marlon Brando. I was so annoyed by Gossip Girl. Right. And like even the name, I hate it. Dude, it's great. It's the greatest thing. It's amazing. It's this weird cultural thing of the zeitgeist of that time to pre-Instagram, pre-all these things. The first iPhone had just come out.

It was such a weird, amazing time in New York. It's fucking amazing. When were you in New York?

It was such a weird, amazing time in New York. It's fucking amazing. When were you in New York?

It was such a weird, amazing time in New York. It's fucking amazing. When were you in New York?

I was entertained by the whole thing. Yeah, I'm OG. I love your new stuff. I love all the stuff.

I was entertained by the whole thing. Yeah, I'm OG. I love your new stuff. I love all the stuff.

I was entertained by the whole thing. Yeah, I'm OG. I love your new stuff. I love all the stuff.

And they'll treat me like it's kind of nice because everyone is like way too cool for school. Yes. They don't give a shit about anything at all. I don't even look at me. I get the thing. I'm like, OK, listen, I mean, get Lakers tickets to save my life. Everyone wants it. But the Knicks, they would always give me Knicks tickets and Rangers, baby. So, yeah. That was it.

And they'll treat me like it's kind of nice because everyone is like way too cool for school. Yes. They don't give a shit about anything at all. I don't even look at me. I get the thing. I'm like, OK, listen, I mean, get Lakers tickets to save my life. Everyone wants it. But the Knicks, they would always give me Knicks tickets and Rangers, baby. So, yeah. That was it.

And they'll treat me like it's kind of nice because everyone is like way too cool for school. Yes. They don't give a shit about anything at all. I don't even look at me. I get the thing. I'm like, OK, listen, I mean, get Lakers tickets to save my life. Everyone wants it. But the Knicks, they would always give me Knicks tickets and Rangers, baby. So, yeah. That was it.

Shout out to them.

Shout out to them.

Shout out to them.

21, 22.

21, 22.

21, 22.

You're right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

You're right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

You're right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

It was interesting. I was born in Lubbock, small town, Texas. Not much going on out there. I kind of woke up. I was in Oklahoma City. First memories. So random. Parents are from there. Dad's from there. My parents met there at a small, very small, like religious college there. So Oklahoma City, very endless. My parents had me when they were like 20 and 21.

It was interesting. I was born in Lubbock, small town, Texas. Not much going on out there. I kind of woke up. I was in Oklahoma City. First memories. So random. Parents are from there. Dad's from there. My parents met there at a small, very small, like religious college there. So Oklahoma City, very endless. My parents had me when they were like 20 and 21.

It was interesting. I was born in Lubbock, small town, Texas. Not much going on out there. I kind of woke up. I was in Oklahoma City. First memories. So random. Parents are from there. Dad's from there. My parents met there at a small, very small, like religious college there. So Oklahoma City, very endless. My parents had me when they were like 20 and 21.

So that's, you know, a very, very southern thing. Yeah. I mean, they were still growing up as we were. I can't imagine having like a 15 year old right now. So so they were young. My dad was in med school. Uh, what, what happened? We moved to Minnesota for four years for his med school. And then we moved back to Texas.

So that's, you know, a very, very southern thing. Yeah. I mean, they were still growing up as we were. I can't imagine having like a 15 year old right now. So so they were young. My dad was in med school. Uh, what, what happened? We moved to Minnesota for four years for his med school. And then we moved back to Texas.

So that's, you know, a very, very southern thing. Yeah. I mean, they were still growing up as we were. I can't imagine having like a 15 year old right now. So so they were young. My dad was in med school. Uh, what, what happened? We moved to Minnesota for four years for his med school. And then we moved back to Texas.

Uh, when I was like nine or 10 years old in Dallas, I'm from Dallas, like North, North Dallas, a little bit suburbia, a little bit out there in the sticks, but more suburbia, you know? Yeah.

Uh, when I was like nine or 10 years old in Dallas, I'm from Dallas, like North, North Dallas, a little bit suburbia, a little bit out there in the sticks, but more suburbia, you know? Yeah.

Uh, when I was like nine or 10 years old in Dallas, I'm from Dallas, like North, North Dallas, a little bit suburbia, a little bit out there in the sticks, but more suburbia, you know? Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, basically, yeah. Were you? Oh, my God.

Yeah, yeah, basically, yeah. Were you? Oh, my God.

Yeah, yeah, basically, yeah. Were you? Oh, my God.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly. Exactly.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly. Exactly.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly. Exactly.