Catherine Austin Fitts
Appearances
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
Thank you. As I said, I really enjoy your show.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
Yes. Okay. Yeah. And what the red button, the story says is since the American people want their check, they don't want you to say no to, you know, the people who control the monetary that they, they want to keep. So, so we are the United States is a global leader in global money laundering and organized crime money.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
We're the global leader. And if that money stops, you know, You know, the red button story, and you can find it on the internet if you want to listen to it. But the red button story is people were not willing to push a red button to stop the organized crime flows because they wanted their checks to keep coming. So we have a financial dependency as a society on things, you know.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
doing things that harm other people including our own children our own selves um you know so i talk a lot about the great poisoning we have a tremendous number of industries in the united states that are making money from poisoning people and taking care of poison people and they're very resistant to stopping the poisoning right that's what this big debate is about and it's a budget debate so are you talking about like food and health care basically
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
talking about food, I'm healthcare spraying what's in the pharmaceuticals. If you look at the federal budget, we, so let's go back to the model, the central banking warfare model. The key to the central banking warfare model is if you're running the reserve currency for the world, the dollar system, you have to make more from running it.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
You have to make enough from running it to fund your military and intelligence. You know, there's a lot of work in governing the sea lanes and being the global cop and running the trade model and all of that. So you have expenses.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
And that's the person who oversees all the mortgage markets, both the credit, most of the credit and then the rules and regulation. So, and I ran smack into all the mortgage corruption because a lot of the black budget is financed with mortgage fraud. And anyway, so I left, but I discovered the internet when I was in the administration.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
And so when you hear the president yelling at everybody at NATO like you have to share more, what he's saying is that the subsidy from the dollar system minus the interest on his debt minus the cost of the military intelligence is no longer working and he's got to rebalance the model.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
Yeah.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
So running the dollar system, you get to extract a tithe. So let's say tomorrow we created Danny Jones dollars. Okay. And whenever you wanted some, you could just print it off your computer. And you could pay people throughout this community for food or for services for doing your landscaping with Danny Jones dollars.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
And you have your own printer. That's a big subsidy, right?
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
It's not unlimited if you have to pay everybody in America off to go along with what you want to do. So part of the big cost of running the model is the American people vote based on domestic issues and don't understand what's involved in running the whole global model. And so you've basically got to buy them off and pay them off to get them to sort of go along with whatever you want to do.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
And that's expensive. So if you look what happened at the end of when the Soviet Union collapsed, the U.S. said, we want to be a unipolar model. One of the reasons I left Washington, I said, your plan won't work. And the failure in the Ukraine was the The message plan failed.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
And now we have Rubio, the Secretary of State, saying, oh, we're going to be a multi – you know, it's a multipolar world now. So the unipolar model failed. And so the model has to change. We have to – we're still running the reserve currency, but you have to rebalance the model. The unipolar plan didn't work, and it wasted a great deal of capital.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
So now we have to change the model. And so if you see the president talking about – you know, I want Canada to be the 51st state or I want Greenland. He's trying, if he can't go east-west, remember, they were going to collapse the Soviet Union, get all those resources and use that to maintain the unipolar model vis-a-vis China. Okay, that didn't work.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
So now he's talking going north-south instead of going east-west, right?
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
So he's just trying to figure out, you have to change the model. And if you look at the debate and discussions going on in Washington recently, The unfortunate thing is, whoever is in the White House, they have to change the model. They don't have a choice. The technology changes in the world. Competition among various parties means we have to change the model. We have to evolve the model.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
We have to. And so the question is, how do you do it? And unfortunately, there are too many people in America sitting around and saying, well, well, well, we don't want to change. But that's not, you know, it's not changing because whoever's in the Oval Office now wants it to change. It's changing because they got to change. You have to change with the times.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
That's how you keep them away from the third rail. If I'm running this, I don't want the general population to mess with the third rail. Do you know what I mean by the third rail?
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
On a transit system or a railroad system, you have two tracks. That's where the wheels go. You have a third track. There's a little trim tap that flips over and that's where the electricity runs.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
And so I created an investment bank that could use software tools basically to get all the information about how the money works and make it accessible to neighborhoods. So, anyway, but my company, I started a company called Hamilton Securities Group. It was very successful. And we got hired on competitive bid by the Clinton administration.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
Okay. So that's the power. Okay. And you don't want them messing with the power. So you keep them busy with divide and conquer and the interpolar pendulum and all that kind of stuff. But that has nothing to do with what's really going on.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
So here's what I mean. If you look at the federal budget last year, so the 2025 year, we had a military budget of $857 billion. And Hegseth wants to take it to a trillion. He says it needs to be a trillion. The HHS budget is 1.8 trillion. And that's because we're all poisoning each other. American people are poisoned. They're chronically ill.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
And if you look at our healthcare system, it's almost double the cost of Switzerland's healthcare system. So we spend more per capita than just any country in the world by a lot. And so it's very expensive. So Mark Skidmore, who is the professor at Michigan State University, who's helped me a lot to document all the money missing from the federal government,
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
He just finished a calculation we just did a show with him on the Solari Report. If we cut disability, so the number of people in America who are disabled, back down to 2010 levels, you would drop that HHS budget by half a trillion dollars. Wow. Right. So that's what it costs to poison your population.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
And that's why this battle around the HHS budget and policies is so fractious, including the fact that the government is legally liable if the truth comes out for poisoning Americans. Which means if you look at what Toby Rogers says, Toby Rogers is the guy who's really tried to cost out the price of autism. So I got onto all of the HHS issues because I was an investment advisor.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
And what I discovered was that healthcare fraud was the number one cause of family bankruptcy or loss of family wealth. And number two, in my experience, was financial fraud. So people were just losing their wealth because they were being lied to. They were being lied to by the healthcare system. By hospitals? Everybody.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
Yes. And many of those legitimate organizations really didn't know. I mean, my father was a very successful surgeon. You know, I sort of grew up. Fortunately, we'd say, Daddy, what did you do today? And then he'd really tell us. Oh, no. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, the dinner table at our house was very, we used to read his surgical books for fun.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
He had, during the World War II, they had taken the University of Pennsylvania Hospital and literally picked up most of the people and the organizational structure and moved it under Stilwell to Burma. So he grew up in, or he did his internship and residency in China, Burma, doing trauma. He was a MASH unit, right?
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
So I worked in the Bush administration, but we got hired by the Clinton administration to be financial advisor for the FHA. And we led $10 billion of mortgage auctions trying to stop the mortgage fraud, which was they had other ideas. They wanted to take the mortgage fraud the other way so we could have the financial crisis.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
Yeah. And well, it was really funny because both sides of my family, all the competition, there were very competitive people on both sides. But it was like, OK, who did the most to save civilization today? OK, your grandfather did this and your father did that. And, you know, and
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
So, for example, his father had gotten the laws changed so they could bring penicillin to Tennessee and had introduced penicillin to Tennessee. And that had been a huge lifesaver for many people. So at the dinner tables, like your grandfather brought penicillin to Tennessee, what have you done today?
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
Right.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
Sure. So let's say the way George Keenan at the end of World War II said, we got 6% of the people and 50% of the resources. And to keep that going, we're going to have to be really tough. We're going to have to drop a lot of bombs. So Goldwater came along and he said, you know, we're going to have to drop a lot of bombs and be really tough. And people said, no, no, no, we're good Christians.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
We don't want to, you know, that's not us. So Jimmy Carter came along and he shivered in front of the fireplace and said, we're going to have to cut back. And the American people said, no, no, no, no, we don't want to do that. So then the Bushes, I always say the Bushes came along and said, you know, you're all a good questions. Here's your check. Don't ask questions. Okay.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
So what we've been doing is we've been subsidizing the American people with the blessings of sort of racketeering around the world in the third world and running the warfare. So When you go from a unipolar to a multipolar model, you lose the ability to extract the resources you need to keep that going.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
So, for example, if I want to trade my Danny dollar for labor and resources all around the world and the BRICS nations don't want to take the Danny dollar, then I'm losing the ability to subsidize the American way of life. Okay, so I have to cut back. So one way to cut back, so you can say, oh, well, there's a climate change emergency. We want everybody to cut back. You can try that.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
Or you can throw on tariffs, and that's going to cause even more inflation. Everybody's going to cut back. But at some point, if you're really going to cut people back, it's very helpful if you have complete control.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
So if you're the bankers and you want to control fiscal policy and collapse the current constitution system, if you can exercise complete control with digital technology and an all digital financial system, you have complete control. So go back to the pandemic. If we say, okay, we want you and your family to lock down.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
then suddenly your money won't work outside your house you know you can order a pizza to be delivered but you can't leave the house if you have an electric car ultimately you can turn off the electric car and if they say well we mandate we want you to take the shot it's mandated if you don't take it we'll turn off your money right so you're talking about complete control
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
This would be used by using the private and the public sector financial train tracks to exercise complete central control. So I don't know if you've ever seen – there's a wonderful video that I keep showing of Augustine Carstens, the general manager of the Bank of International Settlements in Basel, Switzerland, in 2020. I was brought up – basically, I was trained to be a central banker.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
Anyway, so I ended up in 11 years of litigation with the federal government, with the Department of Justice. Have you ever seen the movie Enemy of the State?
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
And I had never seen a central banker tell the truth in an open public in my life until I saw – when this happened, I almost fell off my back.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
I played Will Smith in real life.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
I was online with John Titus, who does the Money Market Show with me.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
And we were chatting as we were watching this IMF panel. And I freaked. I just said, did you see that? He said, don't worry. I got the clip. I said.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
I played Will Smith in real life. So we had 18 audits and investigations, 12 tracks of litigation, physical harassment, a smear campaign. It was I mean, it was right out of the movies. And of course, so so Will Smith is a successful attorney. And in fact, his office in the movie is right next to where my office was. Our company office was in Washington, D.C.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
that's you know because in my world it's impossible anyway but here's what he said and it's a 59 second video you can run it if you want um if you go to our website we have a section called video shorts and in the financial transaction freedom we have about 100 short videos and this is the first
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
He basically said, you know, with digital technology, and he was explaining central bank digital currency, CBDC, but you can do it privately with stable coins. It doesn't have to be a CBDC. It can be a stable coin. And he said, we can make the rules of what you can do with your money, and we can enforce the rules of what you can do with your money. Right.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
So if they say, you know, Danny, you know, your health isn't what it should. You can't eat pizza. Your money won't work to buy pizza.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
right but the reality is with ai and software i can make a entirely granular control system just for you one person at a time right right and so i can do it for a broad brush it's very specific 8 billion and and i can collect all the data and apply my social credit system just to you if you're good you know you'll get maybe you can travel a little bit more if you're bad you get locked out
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
Right. Well, they do that all over the country and all over the world.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
So, so there could be many possible reasons, but one is prototyping. So, you know, this is something you're planning on doing in your own country and you want to see how you could get it to work in another country. And, and it's a prototype. A lot of times those are prototypes.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
Yeah, it helped me to know which country it was.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
Sounds like it might have been Hungary.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
There was one guy who called out the United States and then he had an assassination attempt. The five of the countries that refused to do the mandates in Africa have a big article about it. They they their leaders either got assassinated or were thrown out in the next election.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
Yeah. Yeah.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
So, you know, my guess is, because I worked for several years with a group of doctors and scientists trying to understand what was happening with the injections, and I absolutely believe that they were trying to install operating systems in people's bodies.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
And, you know, everything's crazy and the world makes sense until he finds Gene Hackman, who's a former NSA employee, who explains how covert operations were. And in fact, now, if you come to the Saleri Report, we have a whole 12-part series called Deep State Tactics. So if you can't find Jean, you can listen to Deep State Tactics and understand how it all works.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
This just got dark. No, if you listen, there's a great clip from right at the beginning of the pandemic when the chief scientist officer at Moderna says, we're installing an operating system in people's bodies. And he's describing something that can be used, plug and play for future vaccines. But if you look at all the material on the internet of bodies,
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
You know, you're talking about putting materials in people's bodies that make them basically easier to interact with, with telecommunications and digital technology.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
It's not hard to grasp at all.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
No, it's not sci-fi at all. It's not. Just like they're tagging livestock. I mean, one of the things that really helps you to understand what this looks like, I live in a farming community in the United States. And if you know about livestock, if you've ever studied livestock management... A lot of this makes a lot more sense. You know, and they are tagging all the livestock.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
But this is simply a way of, you know, if you get a lot of these nanoparticles into the human body, you're creating the equivalent of an organic barcode.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
So I strongly recommend you – we just published – Patrick Wood at Technocracy News, I was the moderator. We just published the second symposium called OmniWar. And this one is called The Battle for the Brain. And it gets into the internet of bodies. And what – here's what I believe, and I'm not a scientist, so don't ask me to explain this at all.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
But if you look at all the patents and research and other work done on the Internet of Bodies, it is clear – That there are mysterious ingredients in the food. There are mysterious ingredients in the spray. There are mysterious ingredients in the injections. And the question is, what are those for? And I think it's very intentional. I don't think it's an accident.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
And I think one of the goals is, as the chief scientist officer at Moderna said, is to install an operating system in your body.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
Yes, it's very dark. So go to the Purdue Engineering website to the Internet of Bodies and look at the whole Internet of Bodies.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
Anyway, but I got a real crash course. I'll never forget. First time I saw Enemy of the State, I'm like up in the front row and I'm like, oh, it's my training movie. Right.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
No, he got busted to keep him quiet is what I believe.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
Right.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
So when you have a guy, so Charles Lieber is one of the world's leading experts on brain machine interface. Okay. And he was working with the guys in China, you know, in a very significant way. And he was one of the, I think he was the top expert at Harvard on brain machine interface.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
And, you know, they went after him early, they went after him hard, and they put him in a process where he had to be entirely shut up. And then, so they authorized Operation Warp Speed, which, remember, is a military program. And who did they put in charge of it? But they put the former head of research at GSK, who is what? A brain machine interface expert.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
The guy who ran Operation Warp Speed that Trump appointed was a brain machine interface expert.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
Oh, it's long.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
Head of research.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
He had been head of research at GlaxoSmithKline. Wow. And his expertise was brain machine interface. And what's interesting, for many, many years I've worked with Clifford Carnicombe, on global spraying, what's in the spray, what does it do to you?
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
And Clifford insists, we just did a huge interview with him at the Solar Report, that the materials, the biosynthetic engineered materials in the spray are exactly what's in the injections. And don't ask me about it because I can't explain it.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
No, here's the thing. If you... If you are running the planet and you are a risk manager and you're worried about all sorts of risks and you can't tell people what's really going on, the question is you've got to turn the aircraft carrier before it hits the iceberg. And that may be 20 years before it hits the iceberg and you can't get people to follow you.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
And so it's very attractive to have complete control and to be able, I mean, if you look at the amount of money that's spent to influence people to adopt this opinion or that opinion or keep them busy or keep them away from the power line, I mean, the biggest investment almost in this society is persuading people, you know, to believe a fake reality.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
So financial fraud and mortgage fraud is like the joy of cooking. There are thousands of recipes, right? But if you want to know the most prominent, likely famous recipe for mortgage fraud in HUD housing, all you have to do is look up the Tony Soprano TV show did a series of four parts on HUD fraud by Tony Soprano.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
So the first thing, you spend a whole world of money on education to get them – to get the universities to present a certain kind of –
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
know view of the world and and to promote certain things so it starts with education um a huge one of course is media so so media is also in all the different ways you know it from news to social media is affirming and encouraging people to go certain ways and it's not just official ways like oh please go you know vote in the next election right It's entrainment. It's subliminal program.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
There's real mind control palming and you're pumping that out where they're watching sports. You're pumping that out where they're watching porn. You're pumping that out to get them to think that certain things are real. Other things are not real to head them in certain directions. So you have, you have enormous overt media and enormous covert media, right? That's affirming all those things. Now,
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
Your, your third big expenditure is on intelligence because you're now tracking everybody. So with AI and software, I can track every person and I can watch what they're thinking and saying and doing, and I can feed back to nudge them if I want them to go in a certain direction. So if I announce lockdowns and I want everybody to really lock down, then I persuade them.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
This is all, I mean, we persuade everybody there was a pandemic when there was no pandemic. Right. It's pretty amazing.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
So I grew up in Philadelphia and I got very interested as a child on, I got very interested in money and why everybody was destroying everything on the theory that somehow that made them money. And so I decided I was going to understand how all the money worked in a neighborhood.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
Oh, I think it's very easy.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
Yeah, because if you just track the math of time and money, it's concrete. I mean, it doesn't lie.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
Well, do you know how I came to it? I'm a little girl in West Philadelphia, but because of who my family was and where I went to school, in one week I would go back and forth between all these different worlds and cultures. And I couldn't make sense of anything because everybody was lying. They were lying to themselves. They were lying to each other.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
I was like, I've been born into a nuthouse here. And so finally I thought, I have to find a way to navigate this. And so what I came up with was the mathematics of time. I love math, and math is one of my gifts. the mathematics of time and money. And what I discovered is if you could figure out the math of time and money, then you could figure out reality.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
The math of time and money can figure out reality.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
where you know how many hours you just count up all the hours where are they putting their hours okay count up all the money where are they putting their money how do they spend their money so i'll give you an example when i was the assistant in 1984 i overheard two guys on wall street billionaire types talking about how they were going to roll out entrainment subliminal program on tv
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
And it scared me to death. And that was it for me and TVs. I never had another TV again until the administration. I had a friend helping me decorate. I bought a big house in Washington and she bought a TV for me without my permission. And she said, you can't work in the Bush administration unless you watch the Sunday shows.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
So I had it for a little while, and then I gave it away because I hate them. But because I was the FHA commissioner, I'm working with the budget for the home mortgage market. And if you're working with that, at the time, there was a big SNL cleanup. So I'm working with all the credit in the financial system in the budget.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
And because we're going through the 21, we competed for appropriations with 21 other agencies. I basically had to learn the whole budget. So I'm sitting there tracking day to day to day exactly what's happening in the budget. And then I'm watching, you know, so we're over here whacking up the money in the budget. And you get on the Sunday shows and they're talking about what's going on.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
Yes. And the basic – and it's interesting because one of the things that got me interested in money is it was this fraud that destroyed the value of homes in my neighborhood when I was a little girl. We had four boarded up, four closed properties catty-cornered to our block in West Philadelphia.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
And they got this whole fantasy about what's really going on. It's got nothing to do with what's really going on. They're just like, wow, yeah, yeah. And so for a year.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
Exactly. Exactly. It was the Truman Show. I'm watching. I know exactly what's going on because I'm looking at the money and I'm dealing with the money. And they're going, la, la, la, la, la, la, la. And, you know, it's entertainment. It's got nothing to do with what's going on. That's fascinating. Yeah. So, but if you follow, that's why, you know, the- What year was this? That was 89 and 90.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
Yeah. 89 and 90. And that's why, so under the law, so at the time there were four mortgage insurance funds, but there are two of them are most of the money. Yeah. So under the law, and the big one, the single family fund, by law, the first thing I did when I got to Washington is I read all the law related to what my responsibilities. I want to know under the law, what am I responsible to do?
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
So I read the law and it said that I had sole fiduciary responsibility for what was then the $320 billion mortgage insurance fund. And I was required by law to run it on a self-sufficient basis. So the premiums we charged for the credit had to cover the defaults and expenses. So I'm required to run it. So I decide, okay, I'm going to try and get how much money are we making or losing?
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
So I called in the budget officer. They bring in the budget, and it would have gone two-thirds of the way to the ceiling with all the budget justifications. So I'm a speed reader. I read through it several times that weekend, and I called the budget officer in on Monday. I said, nowhere in this budget does it say whether I'm making or losing money. He said, that's not in the budget.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
I said, if I have sole fiduciary responsibility to run this on a self-supporting basis, I need to know that. He said, well, the accountants have that information. I said, well, give me their number. I'm going to call them. He said, they report to a different assistant secretary. You're not allowed to talk to them. And I said, well, that's going to change.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
So, no, I had raised a lot of money for George H.W. Bush, and all I got was a pair of cufflinks, and the accountants moved over to report to me. So I did, I used all my poll and I got the accountants moving report to me. They come in the first day, we are losing $11 million a day in the single family fund. So I said, look, all real estate's local.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
We got 10, at the time there were 10 federal regions, they're less now. I said, we have 10 federal regions, 80 field offices. Where are we making and losing money? He said, we don't have place-based financials. I said, we mail out checks. We have zip codes. I said, this is a rush. It's an emergency. Get the nurse. Well, it turned out we were making...
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
Profit in eight regions and losing everything plus more in two regions, which was, you know, it was a black budget. It was the Bushes and the Clintons. It was the Texas region, which included Arkansas and the Colorado region. It was just like.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
Yeah, it was the mortgage fraud. So you remember, we had a big, the S&L crisis in 89, and that cleanup was a lot, a tremendous amount of mortgage fraud. Anyway, so I could talk about all those guys at mortgage fraud all day long.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
And it had a huge sign and it said, by order of the Assistant Secretary of Housing, Federal Housing Commissioner. And I used to think, who is that asshole? And so when I literally, when I was sworn in, they said, by order of the president, you are now the assistant secretary of housing. I said, uh-oh, I'm the, you know. And I went downstairs and I said, how many boarded up homes?
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
They were missing, DOD was missing $4 trillion, but he said $2.3. He said it was $2.3.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
And we had I was working with a reporter and we had a huge story coming out that Friday about the whole missing money and what it meant per person. So we had calculated for each taxpayer in each state how much you were missing. So, yeah. So that was the financial coup, which had started in 1998.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
Well, that's what I've been trying to figure out. And without the bank statements, I can't. So I've tried to map out, because money, remember, you're too young to remember, did you ever see the old Pillsbury Doughboy commercials? Of course. Where they squeeze down on one and it pops out someplace else?
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
Yeah, so you're probably too young. So when the money started to going missing from the Treasury and the federal government, the offshore havens started to just balloon, you know. So this is going down and this is going up. And anyway, but I have tried to unpack where the money's gone and what they've been spending it on. And, you know, I have a lot of guesses. What's your best guess?
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
i i think it's many different things the first thing i think you've been financing a new system so i call it the breakaway civilization but i think you've literally been financing a new system and it's like when you're running a company and you you keep the old systems going and you get the new systems up and you bring the resources over steadily and then at some point you're ready to bring this down and i used to say the pandemic was the breakaways breaking back in
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
And taking over. But I think they've moved a lot of money out. And in theory, if you look at how much has been stolen, it's enough to run a global government on an endowment basis. It is.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
So as of 19, as of 2015, there was 21 train and undocumented adjustments, but that's not cash and, and it could reflect money coming in. So you could be bringing money in from the war zone. So how much is net missing? You know, it's impossible to tell, but given everything I would be amazed if it wasn't at least that much missing.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
So now, what I think you've been doing is you've been making enormous investments in black budget technology and infrastructure. So I think you've got a huge physical infrastructure. Some of it, when you did 9-11, you were able to move a lot more black budget on budget.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
And so that sort of eased the pain because the problem with the black budget as of 9-11 was to get that money, you had to tell – the fraud had gotten so dysfunctional and wasteful. So you wanted to do more on budget. Right.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
Whether it's building a new governance system and a new endowment to run it, or invisible weaponry, secret weaponry, secret space program, the infrastructure underground to platform that, I think it's all those things.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
How many foreclosed properties do we have in the foreclosed industry? My deputy said 50,000. I said, well, that's going to change. And that was part of the problem. But okay, so let's look at the basic fraud. So there's a home in the foreclosed property inventory of the Federal Housing Administration. They had financed a mortgage.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
Here's how it works. Okay. Do you understand the legal structure of how they did it?
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
Okay. 47, you pass the National Security Act. Okay. And that gives you the ability to set up the secret infrastructure. 49, you pass the CIA Act. They literally had to kill the Secretary of Defense to do that. They assassinated Forrestal to get that done. We have a lot of interesting material on the Forrestal assassination on the Salarian. Really?
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
Yeah, you should learn about Forrestal and what caused that assassination and what it did to create. You literally took several sections.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
Okay. Not that I know of. He was the president of Dylan Reed. He was a partner of Dylan Reed.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
I don't know. I've never read that about Farshall. I'm really studying him, but I don't know.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
Well, even if he was, that's not what got him killed. What got him killed was standing in the way of creating Israel and giving them a nuclear bomb.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
Yeah, yeah. And he wanted disclosure on the black budget. He was for disclosure on the black budget, and he didn't want Israel. Basically, he didn't want that part of the organized crime syndicate to get sovereign powers. That's so... Anyway, what happened was they made a deal on the 49. They got rid of Forrestal. They made a deal on the 49 Act that created the CIA.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
And that made the CIA the most powerful banker in the world. Eisenhower put him in charge of Area 51 security. And literally, once you look at how the the exchange stabilization fund is sort of the different money aspects of the 47 and 49 Act. organized to work, you've now created this financial mechanism that combines covert violence and makes it the most powerful banker in the world.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
Now, not, I should say, on the covert side, the most powerful bank in the world is BIS.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
I don't know if he used that to build Area 51. He ran a slush fund out of the Exchange Stabilization Fund from Sullivan Cromwell before they got the 49 Act created. Right. Right, right. Right. But here's the big thing.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
They put an insurance policy on the mortgage so they take the credit risk. It defaults. They pay off the mortgage holder and then take back the properties. The property is sitting there in inventory, okay? So let's say the property is worth $100,000.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
When Bush came in during the Reagan years as vice president, his deal with the intelligence agencies was he gets to run or with Reagan was he gets to run the National Security Council, the intelligence agencies. He creates an executive order signed by the president, by Reagan, that corporations can do highly classified work. Now, let me tell you what that means.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
Okay. So now you've got to wait. Now, what's the number one source of campaign contributions?
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
Capital gains. Capital gains. Capital gains. I have a stock. It's trading in a multiple of 20. I give you a million dollar a year contract. That goes up by 20 million dollars. Your stock goes up. That creates capital gains for the investors and the executives who then turn around and they or their law firms make political contributions. It's a kickback.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
So if you read my book, I have an online book called Dylan Reed and the Aristocracy of Stock Profits. And it was designed to explain to you how that kickback system works. Because the quote we have at the beginning is an old New Jersey street saying, make a law, make a business.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
So every time the government does something that makes stocks go up, they get a kickback of campaign contributions from that. And of course, the taxpayers funding the whole thing. Now, let's go back to corporations.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
Now I can transfer trillions of dollars of invaluable black technology into the corporations and fund them with taxpayers' money to own and develop it secretly and keep it away from FOIA so you and I can put in a FOIA and we can't find it because it's behind the corporate veil.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
Correct. Now, I can't say that it's more powerful than the U.S. military because they need the U.S. military to do a lot of what they're doing.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
Yes, probably. Probably. OK, so so let's say the house is worth one hundred thousand dollars. OK, you sell the house to someone or or or you who's going to do sort of a quickie fix up. OK, so. And you let them turn around and sell it at – you put a mortgage – let's say it's worth $150 now. They've fixed it up. You put a mortgage on it for $250, a lot more than it's worth.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
And we've had senators, we've had senators stand up and say this, but what I call them is a breakaway civilization.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
But it's not corporations who have a lot of technology. It is a breakaway civilization. And they literally think of themselves as a separate civilization and not subject to our laws.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
Separate from the human race.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
Right. In other words, so I'll give you an example. And I've told this story many times before when I...
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
I was in a meeting with the secretary, and he got very – we had called in the regional administrator, so we had 10 regional administrators. And he was very angry at the regional administrator from California because he had implemented a court decision. A court had decided something. He had implemented it, and the secretary was very angry at him.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
And he said to him in front of everybody, Mr. Secretary, I had to. That's the law. And the secretary just explodes with fear. He says, the law, the law, I don't have to obey the law. I report to a higher moral authority. And that's a perfect example.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
When you're in Washington, you have a group of people whose attitude is, look, as long as I'm doing what the beggars tell me to do, I don't have to obey the law. The law is irrelevant to me. You know, I'm part of the breakaway law. You know, I have to obey them. I don't have to obey this law.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
That's what it appears to me to be. And remember, a lot of the underground bases are publicly announced or known as existing. And there's a lot of things you would do or store underground, just any good risk manager would do it. So it's a continuity of government thing to have those kind of facilities.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
So, you know, but I think the, the, my guess is the infrastructure is a lot greater than is publicly, has been publicly made aware of.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
That's what some, you know, I don't know if you've ever watched the different videos of the truckers, but if you spend a lot of time talking to the truckers, because the truckers have to deliver a lot of material into those bases and you'll get, you know, you'll get reports about what they've seen or heard. So that's my guess.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
They sell it to a not-for-profit who immediately defaults. Right. You pay off the 250 mortgage and take the property back and you keep doing it again and again and again and generating lots of money out the back door. So when I became FHA commissioner, we would find private one property in Chicago, which had financed and defaulted five times in one year. I know. Imagine that.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
So I live half the year in the Netherlands. And the power of Northern Europe grew up on the fish.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
Oh, wow. I bet that's Poland. I don't know.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
About. Dracula grave? Really?
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
We believe in you. So Northern Europe grew up on the cod and fishing. You know, a huge amount of the wealth in Northern Europe came from the ocean, from the fish. Right, right, right. But, so I live in Friesland and one of the things that made, the Frieslands were amazing world travelers.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
and they figured out how to get the salt from the polish mines and salt the cod so you could put cod in a barrel salted and you would have animal protein that was good for 10 years so you could sail anywhere in the world wow right yeah all right it's in romania okay well that that would be consistent with dracula's grave
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
So, you know, I will tell you that, in my opinion, you have a corporate infrastructure which is literally out of control. So one of the things I used to have these fights with the defense contractors because I was required to get the accounts when I still needed data and the systems were run by the big defense contractors at HUD and they would refuse to give me the data.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
So I'd have these wars with them. Yeah. Like, who really runs HUD? Is it the defense contractor or is it the point, you know, the person who's legally responsible? Right, right. You would have these huge fights.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
They can control the government by killing people who don't do what they say. That's how they control the government.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
Lobbying, you know, I mean, they're different layers. But, you know, I'll give you an example. So I published, I litigated with the federal government for 11 years and then fought with the IRS. And anyways, 11-year shaggy dog process. And when it was over, I didn't want to go back into the investment world without explaining what had happened.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
So I wrote an online book called Dylan Reed and the Aristocracy of Stock Profits. I've tried to publish it three times. The last time I, each time I run into just enormous headwinds and problems and threats, but the last time they threatened to kill somebody in my family. So I just. What? Yeah. Yeah. Who? Uh, I can guess where it's coming from.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
I know how it was delivered and, and I know who delivered the messages, but who started it? I can guess, but I, I don't know, but I, I took them seriously. I thought, okay.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
Yeah. Yeah. You know, two were acquaintances. One was somebody I know. But it's very carefully crafted so that the people who deliver the message don't necessarily understand what they're a part of. Right, right. Right. And I thought there was a reasonably good chance that they would do it. So you never know.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
It was already online, so I just left it online. It's not censored. It's there.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
Right.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
So the Bank of International Settlements is a central bank of central bank. So the 63 largest, most important central banks in the world belong to the BIS. Okay. The top central bankers meet there regularly. They have a group called the Financial Stability Board that defines systemically important institutions, which to me appear to essentially get some of the benefits of their sovereign immunity.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
And what I didn't understand until I went to Wall Street is you literally have to know how all the money on the planet works to understand how the money in a US neighborhood works.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
Anyway, so but here's here's how I can make even more money.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
And they have the power to move money and hold it on their balance sheets secretly. Okay. So if there's $21 trillion missing from the U.S. government, in theory, you could move that $21 trillion to the BIS and have it sit on the BIS all day long and use the BIS to move it to lots of countries who then donate to the Gates and Clinton Foundation, for example.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
I'm using that as a theoretical example. You see what I mean? But because they have sovereign immunity, we've created since World War II a whole network of organizations around the world who have sovereign immunity. They're above the law. So we have parts of the UN. We have the World Bank. We have the IMF. They have all sorts of different variations of sovereign immunity.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
We have a whole bunch in Latin America. And we've created this metastructure using international treaties or using the sovereign immunity entities for all sorts of behavior and economic activities that are not subject to our national laws.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
Right. And it allows you to move a lot of money and a lot of data and information secretly.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
So in my experience, the system is run through committees, consensus. So I'll give you an example. When I was on Wall Street, a lot of the money in the United States is run around the federal budget, okay? Because it's such a big portion. In any county in America, 40 to 50% of the income comes from the federal budget, okay? So it really drives the economy.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
Okay, so the appropriations vote out sort of their plan for the next year.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
and so their recommended appropriations come out from the committees and then the big questions the big things to be debated or figured out or questions are rolled up and sent out to the bohemian grove everybody comes out to the group they meet and they chew over the big things and then they make their decisions and then that goes back to washington everybody's on vacation and then the staff gets everything ready to vote for the budget in september and then the new budget goes forward in october
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
And if that process breaks down and you have a real food fight, then you've got a real mess. But the big decisions are made by consensus. And you use, you know, whether it's a Bilderberg meeting or- Council of Foreign Relations. They're a little bit different, but yeah, our executive committee of the Council on Foreign Relations.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
Right. That's a variation. Now, here's how you really make a lot of money. When you issue the mortgage, you don't issue one mortgage. You issue 10 mortgages on that house, and you put them in a mortgage pool that's wrapped by Ginnie Mae so you can sell them in Dubai, and nobody knows the difference. Right. And as long as there's money, you can skim out the back door of the FHA fund. No problem.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
You know, you have these meetings where you get people from all different industries, all different occupations together, right? So they can coordinate and collaborate.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
And they make these decisions very much by committee or consensus process, which is why once they agree to something, everybody hates to, you know, you can't buck it because, you know, we've told 20 different industries we're going to go to the right. And so you can't just go to the left. You hiccup everybody.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
So I'm not that familiar with the Bilderbergers. I mean, I never, you know, if you look at who I worked with, I mean, I worked with some people on Wall Street or in Washington or in the Bilderbergers, but it was simply a more international version.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
And my guess is, if you look at, we grabbed so much booty at the end of World War II, I think that one of the initial goals of the Bilderbergers was to manage that, you know, that sort of pot of money.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
So more recently, that's possible because the tech, you know, tech is so important to build the control. So, and, you know, I hate to say it, we, the 21 trillion is, you know, we sort of sucked out as much money as possible and put the government on a debt trap. But if you look at what they're doing now, now they're stealing all the data.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
Right. So that's worth – it's funny. Naomi Wolf and I were trying to cover this at one point. And she said, you know, that data is worth more than a trillion dollars. And it is. And it's interesting because Musk was out raising capital for XAI and had a deal with Palantir AI at the same time. And my guess, you know, I think – Palantir has an AI?
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
Well, according to published reports – XAI and Palantir had made a partnership when Musk was sucking all this data out. And my guess is that data is – they sucked it into the AI on the just do it method.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
Let me come around to that. The other thing is, and this is from a video, an interview Howard Lutnick said. He said, don't worry about the, so he's the Secretary of Commerce, but he was a primary dealer. And he was the guy who lived next to Epstein for many years. He lived next door. Lutnick says, don't worry about the $36 trillion of debt, because we have, on the U.S.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
balance sheet, we have $500 billion left. I'm sorry, 500 trillion of land and mineral resources, which is true. The federal government owns a huge amount of the land in the United States. Right. And during Trump, in fact, he ordered up a geological survey that would allow...
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
basically to map 100 of the mineral resources in the country so um if you want to plunder the u.s balance sheet you know it's worth a fortune it could create you know new kind of rothschild and rockefeller fortunes if you plundered it this is crazy stuff No, it's not. It's just money.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
No, but here's the thing. We don't have, we have one problem in the United States. We have a secret governance system. And that secret governance system has decided to change how we're governed and managed. And we're having a big disagreement because they want central control and digital technology will allow them to do that for the first time in history. And we don't want that.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
Wow. Right. And it's it's really funny. So so I had warned people about this kind of fraud, both when I was assistant secretary and then when I was the lead financial advisor. But, you know, you're you know what it's like when you fight these winds and and. So I'm driving down the highway in Georgia and my old roommate from college calls me and she says, Fitz, have you seen the Soprano TV shows?
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
We want to be free. So we're having a big debate about whether or not we're going to go to a complete control grid or we're going to be free. That's the debate. And whether the, you know, the breakaways can break back in and say, OK, we're dictating to you now that we've stolen all your money, we're going to dictate to you how you're going to live. Right.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
So – So think of this as a dynamic discussion back and forth between the population and the people who are responsible to manage the planet. And if you come up through the layers of the financial system, both the bankers, the insurance, the whole thing, and then the people who make the top governance decisions – and I can only guess who they are, but I have some guesses –
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
You know, they are responsible for the intergenerational pools of capital, and they were responsible for risk. And they, over the last 50 years, in my experience, they have been exceptionally frustrated. They find managing the general population very frustrating and scary. Because remember, occasionally you have revolutions and people get guillotined, right? So they're afraid.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
My personal experience is they're very afraid of the general population because they are few and we are many. Right. And they're risk managers and they think in very long. And what's happened is, particularly in the United States, you have a huge cycle of disrespect now between the general population and the people responsible to lead the financial system.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
And the more the criminals get away with really bad stuff, the more they hate the general population. And it's become a very ugly cycle of disrespect. Right. You know, in a way that didn't exist when I was a kid. So, and that is dangerous because, well, look at the great poisoning. I mean, we have the U.S. government systematically poisoning and killing the population.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
The COVID pandemic was a mass atrocity. You've killed millions or you've killed or disabled millions of Americans intentionally.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
It has to do, so the budget deal in 1995 broke. And that was, it was described to me by the top pension fund, the president, the largest pension fund in the country described it to me in 1997. He said, they've given up on the country. They're moving all the money out starting in the fall. So a concerted effort was made to put the government and the retirement system on a sound financial basis.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
It didn't work. They decided, okay, we're just gonna start pulling money out. That's when the financial coup started. And that is when decisions started to be made that systematically lowered life expectancy. And from 2000 to 2017, well, ever since then, I've been on every radio show or internet show that will have me talking about the 21 trillion missing. And that's because it's a formula.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
You have retirement funds. If you won't fund them, and the political wheel made it very clear in 1995, we refuse to fund them. You only have another way to balance the budget, and that's to lower life expectancy.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
Well, if you look at the charts... Literally, from when that budget deal busted, life expectancy started to fall. So here are the other 19 industrial countries, and here's the U.S., and it starts to go down, down, down. And then the pandemic, it drops off the cliff.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
They have the HUD frauds on the Soprano TV shows. And she said, I guess you're telling the truth. And I said, wait a minute. So I was the former assistant secretary of housing and then I was the lead financial advisor for HUD. And I've told you about this for years. You don't believe me until it's on the Soprano TV show. And she said, that's right.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
You know, it's a little bit more complex than that. But yes. And the latest reports from Social Security is it's working. You know, Social Security has improved. But here's the thing. I'm going to be a tough guy. This is a formula. So you either put the money in.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
It's not a Ponzi scheme. But if you're not going to fully fund it, then you can lengthen retirement age or you can lower life expectancy. It's a formula. Right. And if the body politic refuses to do the financially responsible thing, then you've got two choices. And you can't get there by delaying the retirement age. That won't work politically. So you just put them on a slow kill.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
And that's what's happened. And you can say, oh, the bankers are bad guys. But if you saw the confirmation hearings for Kennedy's appointment, I mean, what you saw were scores of senators.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
Refusing to take responsibility for a chronic epidemic among our children, which is an extinction level event. That, you know, that was not the banker sitting in the city of London. That was Senator sitting in Washington, refusing to take responsibility. You know, it's one thing to say to Kennedy, we don't like your plan to end the chronic epidemic, you know, of illness among our children.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
Here's a better plan, but they wouldn't own it. You know, they just want to say, no, it was, you know, that is, that is a society that will fail.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
There are many plausible explanations, none of them good. So they could have control files. They could be bribed. They could be mind controlled. They could be not care. They could, you know, there are many possible reasons, none of which are good. But what they're not is they're not competent to be a U.S. senator.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
Right. They don't. Wow. And if I'm the bankers and I want to control fiscal policy, you know, I've proven on national TV that the people who run fiscal policy are not competent to run it. Because the HHS budget is bankrupting the country. And it's not just bankrupting the country. I mean, I was an investment advisor for 10 years.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
And the way I learned all about this is watching the health care system bankrupt families. So that's my, you know, what I'm angry about is there is no reason why our economy can't be highly prosperous and successful. But it can only be successful if the people are successful, if our children are successful, if our families are successful. That's what it takes to have a successful civilization.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
So I said, that's why I say in America, fact is fiction and fiction is fact. If it's on the news, it's likely fiction. You know, if it's on the Soprano TV show, there's a... Oh, yeah. You know, you're getting your training filmed.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
because it's organized it's very centralized and it's organized so that you know so if you and i go to the white house we'll say here's how all the money works on housing here's how all the money works in military but it doesn't say here's how the money works you know in west philadelphia so you can't now with relational databases you you could and i've worked on that but anyway so i went to wall street because i wanted to learn how all the money the planet works
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
The first thing you do is you bring transparency. So that's your business, right? You're trying to bring transparency to what's going on, right? Second thing is you describe the solutions. And the real solution is when millions of us proceed to behave-
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
Because right now, the people who are implementing all the evil doing, all the poisoning, all the control grid, the people who are implementing it, you know who they are? Us. We're implementing this. I could walk into a room of health freedom activists, get all their retirement funds, pull together all the stocks and show them they're financing it.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
They're putting, they're supporting, you know, we are going to work in implementing this. We are putting our money into this and we have the power to change that overnight. If 10% of the people in the country called up their broker and said, I am not financing any of this evil doing, pull my money out. All these bad guys, you know, I'm not going to buy them. I'm not going to support them.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
I'm not going to date them. Pull our money out of the banks. No, pull your money, shift your money to the banks that are good. You've got a tremendous number of great banks and honest bankers in this country who would love to diminish this.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
So if you go to Solari, we have an article called How to Find a Good Local Bank. And we have a four-part series on how to identify and find a great bank or credit union.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
So we have a very interesting document. If you do a search on Solaria for JPMorgan Chase. Oh, really? We had a subscriber after the financial crisis. And in my personal experience, JPMorgan was deep in the mortgage fraud at FHA in the government. So she continued to bank at JPMorgan Chase. And I had, I don't know if you know how the Madoff fraud worked.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
Okay, so Madoff after the mid-90s only had – he had two businesses. He had a brokerage business and he had the money management, the Ponzi scheme. And the Ponzi scheme only had one bank account at JPMorgan Chase. So I was interviewing Helen Chapman, who's one of the attorneys who litigated the Madoff. She'd been a Madoff victim but represented other Madoff victims.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
Well, remember, during the financial crisis, within a very short period of time, there was more money shoveling out the door. I mean, the TARP IG said total money... the taxpayers financed 27 trillion. $8 trillion would have paid off all the single family mortgages in the country. Right. So the total bailout of the mortgage fraud was three times all existing mortgages in the country.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
And I said to her, I said, Helen, who was the securities custodian? If JPMorgan Chase was the bank account, who was the securities custodian? And she said, there was none because he never bought any securities. And I said, but Helen, that means JPMorgan Chase controlled the whole time.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
In other words, under the laws, they knew that Madoff was not buying any securities because there was no securities custodian and the money. In fact, they would run with huge balances at JPMorgan Chase, according to her interview. Wow. Right. They were the senior partner.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
They were the senior partner. So it's an amazing interview. Anyway, so I had this person put together a list of every criminal and civil money penalty that JPMorgan Chase had paid from 2006 to I think it's 2018. It's up. It's hilarious. And then we had our editors go through it very, very carefully. And we found $42 billion of civil and criminal money penalties for –
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
financial, you know, activities that I would describe as, you know, they clearly knew they were defrauding people and harming people. And, you know, so my question is why is anybody, if an institution would do that, Now, I can make arguments where it makes sense for somebody to have their money at JPMorgan Chase for things we don't need to go into. There's all sorts of esoteric reasons.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
But I would say that a majority of people who are free to move their money out of JPMorgan Chase, why don't they? Why wouldn't you act in your own- It's so convenient.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
So you're saying that you would do business with a Russian mob because it's convenient.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
Right. So what I'm telling you is if you will do business with people who steal and defraud.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
Crime that pays is crime that stays. I mean, if you look at the financial crisis, we shoveled $27 trillion of taxpayers' money into institutions. You know, so that was a huge theft. That was a huge taking. Why would you ever bank with any of those institutions if you could avoid it? And there are times some people can't avoid it, so I'm not.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
But, I mean, I'll never forget being in Washington, and there's some big protest, and one of the guys said to me is, look, as long as they have Citibank credit cards in the back of their pocket, I don't care if they walk up and down. Why? Because that's...
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
Well, as long as you're giving me all your data and you're giving me all your money and I control your money and your money and the data. What do I care if you walk up and down?
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
Trump was put in by the bankers to get the control grid. The other team in the Unipar wasn't moving fast enough. They couldn't get the control grid. I've never, I say you a link. We just did a new collection of all the things Trump is doing to move the control grid. He is moving very, very fast. When it comes to building- First, he's getting the Real ID implemented very aggressively.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
Real ID, to do a control grid, you need a very high quality precision national ID that's interoperable with all the other IDs around the world. And he's got Kristi Noem out there pushing the Real ID like there's no tomorrow. So they're working and it's done through the states, but the feds are pushing it. So the first thing you need is a digital ID.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
The second thing you need is an all digital financial system. So you got to kill cash and you got to make everybody interact digitally. And if you look at what he's doing with taxes and social security, he's trying to make everybody, you know, he's canceled pennies, but he's also canceled now. You know, normally I pay my taxes with paper and now he's saying, no, you got to do everything digital.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
It's not this year, but next year.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
So he's trying to, if you go through that list, I've got like, you know, 50 different items of what he's doing. And if you look at what they're doing with the Genius Act and stable coin, he said no CBDCs, but stable coin. So I don't know if you've read the Genius Act, which is the new plan for stable coins. Okay. A CBDC is issued, would be issued by the Federal Reserve.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
So one of my favorite quotes, I was told by a former intelligence officer who was involved in the financial fraud that Oliver North had said that HUD was the candy store of covert revenues. And based on what I cleaned up and what I dealt with, I'm absolutely convinced.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
So presumably the New York Fed and the Fed member banks. Okay. Now, they are owned by their members. So Citibank, JPMorgan Chase, they own – as members, they own the New York Fed and basically govern it. And the New York Fed is the depository for the treasury and the different banks work as agent to do those transactions. Right.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
So now under the Genius Act, what they're saying is the guys who own the New York Fed are all going to create subsidiaries and issue stablecoin, which will be interoperable and can work with a social credit system. Now, here's the beauty of it. You know, the New York Fed, under the law, has direct obligations to Congress, and Congress has jurisdiction over them.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
If you do it through the owners of the Fed, through their private subsidiaries, you're going to have – some degree of freedom so it gives you more freedom oh my god yeah so if you think this is improvement you have another thing coming anyway but what they're planning to do on stablecoin which i have to say as a financial matter is quite clever Remember the pallets of cash you sent to Iraq?
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
Okay. This is going to be the digital equivalent of the pallets of cash sent to Iraq because what they want to do with stable coins. So a stable coin is just a bank deposit or a treasury bill or bond. So it's fully collateralized by a dollar. You put a dollar in and these stable coins are going to, I mean, you have some stable coins that do gold or other things, but these are going to be dollar.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
And this is going to create a huge market for the treasury bills and bonds. and the bank subsidiaries will create the stablecoins that would be fully collateralized in treasury bonds or bills. But then you can send them out on Google Payment and Apple Payment and all the wallets around the world.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
And literally you can get people from Bolivia to South Korea coming into your state and using stablecoins. So you're literally gonna tend for the global population try and get everybody off of their local currency into stable coins. And you're going to pump out massive amounts of private credit to make it really attractive. So you're just going to hand out money and get everybody on the dollar.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
Yeah, of course.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
I think as soon as you pass the genius act, it can go very, very fast.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
I'm assuming it's going to pass sometime soon. If it doesn't pass before the session breaks, it'll pass in the fall, is my guess. So it could you could really see the world rock. Now, our problem in America is Trump aware of all this stuff. Or what do you think?
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
So I don't know Trump. I lived in New York for 11 years and the PR firm we use did his business too. Everything I know about Trump I know from Howard Rubinstein and company. Anyway, but I think Trump is in a box. And all I see, I have to judge people by what they're doing and what it looks to me like Trump and Musk are implementing the control grid at high speed.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
And don't believe me, go look at that list. Because what you have to say is, okay, to do a control grid, we need a digital ID implemented that's very high quality, high precise. Check the box. We need an all digital financial system. Check the box. You know, we need a way of doing interoperable money. Check the box. If you look at what Doge is doing, we need a social credit system. Check the box.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
Doge is, from what it looks like to me, and I'm basing my assessment of what I know from Doge includes, you know, I read the Financial Times, I read the Wall Street Journal, I read Wired. Wired has done a very thorough job of trying to document what's happening in the systems. Mm-hmm.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
And I think basically what they've done is they've taken, so if I wanted to stop fraud in the US government, I would say there's 20 trillion missing from DOD, there's a trillion missing from HUD, I'm gonna go in, figure out where it went, get it back. That's not what they did.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
If you said to me, I wanna build a social credit system that can be used to enforce control against the American people and basically lock them down with both enforcement and social credit, I would go get the Social Security data, the IRS data, and the Treasury payment data. And that's exactly what they did. And I would privatize it.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
I would just take it and put it in private AI with XAI and Palantir AI. And if Palantir still has the contracts with Treasury and the IRS to enforce, you got everybody. Sure. And you add the Kennedy's aggregating the health care data. You put it with the health care data. Now, Danny, they've been aggregating this kind of data. I used to call it the data beast.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
So they've been aggregating this kind of powerful data since the 90s. So I don't think this is all new. IRS data, health care data.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
Right. But I think this time the government has done, the federal government has generally done a pretty good job of siloing the data to protect privacy laws for many applications. But I think this unsilos everything and moves it private and puts it on an out-of-control basis is my guess as to what's probably happened.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
Now, this is conjecture, remember, but if I wanted to build a control grid, that's exactly what I would do.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
So, you know, I've worked with him for years. We're very close.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
Yeah, yeah.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
So I met Joseph by reading his books. I started reading his books and I just concluded he was a great scholar. It never occurred to me that I could get to know him. And then I met him and we started to work together. And every quarter we do a five to ten hour recording called News Trends and Stories. It's basically – Going through what happened over the last quarter of the last year.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
We do four a year. And we look at everything that's going on on a very integrated basis. So we go through the top. We'll define the top 10 to 15 stories. And then we go through something called unanswered questions.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
And we're both great believers in framing questions. If you don't have the intelligence you need to know to know for sure what's going on, you can still define questions and use those questions to learn more and more and more and get to the point where you know more. And we have a section called Unanswered Questions and then one called Inspiration.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
And we spend five, we just finished a 10 hour recording. Yeah. The, the number one story was three hours. It was the Trump, the first 70 days.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
So Joseph, the thing you have to understand about Joseph is Joseph is a great scholar. He is a scholar. He has his PhD from Oxford. He studied patristics, an ancient Christian theology, and he intended to have a very serious academic career. And he proceeded into academia after having his doctorate.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
He grew up in South Dakota and walked smack into the fact that the American academic institutions were all not interested in serious scholarship and were headed the wrong way. And he literally ended up at one point as working in a casino as a dealer.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
Yeah, trying to support himself. So then he just started writing books about – you know, sort of what's going on. And he focused on, you know, so again, we've been talking about the breakaway civilization, you know, who's really wanting things and why are they doing what? And he'll go way back in history. He'll go back a thousand, 2000 years. The Venetians have the Venetians and the,
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
Venetian model rolled into the central banking model or how did the Nazis roll into the breakaway civilization he does a lot on the secret space program and he's absolutely brilliant and what happened to me was I was an investment advisor and Joseph was the only when I tried to explain to the people who were doing shows related to the stock market and the financial system they couldn't incorporate the black budget
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
And the covert side of the economy was getting bigger and bigger and bigger. And you couldn't explain what was happening in the financial system by using the official reality. And so what I discovered is even though Joseph's expertise is patristics and theology and, you know, ancient history and all these other things, he was better on the financial system than the financial guys.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
because he could integrate all the information related to the secret governance system and science. He's very good on science. And so he and I worked more and more closely together. And he's had a very profound impact on me because one of the things he taught me was we can't save the government necessarily, but we can save the culture. And when he said that, I had no idea, Danny, what that meant.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
It's like, I'm an investment banker. How do you save a culture? I don't know what to do. And he really got me to understand the power of each one of us. I knew about this financially, but each one of us in our personal lives, building the culture that we want to live in and doing it with all of our time and money.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
And anyway, so we've collaborated both on the cultural issues as well as the geopolitics and news. And I don't know any person. So he was also worried, as I was, about the plunder we're seeing in the government. And, you know, we've always known, as these guys plundered all around the world, that they said they were going to come back and plunder North America. Right.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
Right. So here's how the, you know, any business, any enterprise and any planet has a business model, an economic model on how the fundamental walk. So the Western world for 500 plus years has operated on a model called central banking warfare model. Okay.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
He just published a book on Reconstruction after the Civil War because he wanted to warn people this is what plunder looks like. So anyway, but he's absolutely brilliant. And if you look at the content that you've covered on your podcast, there's no topic that you've talked about that he's not. Right. He has something fascinating to say about anything.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
The other thing I did with Joseph that was just a blast, and remember, we're constantly in cahoots, is I crowdfunded, Soleri crowdfunded a digital organ for him.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
I was at his house one day and I said, Joseph, you're not yourself. And he said, you know, I just deal with the content we deal with. It's depressing. And I said, well, what do you do for fun? He said, I love to play the organ. He plays the organ. And I said, well, why don't you go play the organ? He said, I can't because all the churches, the insurance companies won't let other people use it now.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
So the churches won't let me play their organs. And I said, well, how much does it cost to buy an organ? And he said, well, you can get a digital organ. And I said, OK, well, I'm going to we're going to do a crowdfund for a digital organ. And it was during the campaign in 2016. And literally, there are about 200 people in the Solari Network who crowdfunded a digital organ for Joseph.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
It's like, you guys have an election. We're going to crowdfund and learn all about organ music. So now I listen to a lot of organ music and I travel around Europe going to great organ concerts. So now I'm really into it.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
Yeah, it is great. You know, if you've ever been in a beautiful cathedral with organ music, it's like an electromagnetic healing.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
Yeah. And it's really amazing.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
Oh, you have to take your whole family, go to Chartres, go to Mont Saint-Michel when there's a great organ concert.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
He's Russian Orthodox. He's Russian Orthodox. And he's very devout. He takes his theology seriously. So I'm always getting yelled at because I'm not... I'm a, you know, I'm Christian, but I'm not Russian Orthodox.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
Years. For years. Yeah, he's been on it from the beginning.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
So take it back to, you know, about Admiral Byrd after World War II.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
Okay, so Admiral Byrd took a force of the Navy, naval force down to Antarctica.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
Yes. Okay. And came back very quickly, having lost, I think, ships and men or something. But whatever happened down there, we got whooped. And so the question has been since then, you know, because the Nazis were clearly down there, you know, during World War II. But, you know, so and the Nazis never if you look at the surrender, according to Joseph, the Nazis never surrendered.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
The central bankers print money out of thin air, and I'm grossly oversimplifying, but they create the money, and then the military makes sure that people take it, okay? And that keeps the liquidity going. So there are two sides to the coin. And when you say military, think intelligence and military, because surveillance is such an important part of the force.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
The German government surrendered, but the Nazis never surrendered. And we know Dulles was in Switzerland the whole time laundering money back and forth. And the rat lines got a lot of money out. And so and we brought we brought 4000 plus scientists, Nazi scientists into the national security state.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
Yeah. So there's a wonderful book. I don't know if you've read it, Charles Higgum, Trading with the Enemies. And he literally describes people stopping, you know, ball bearing orders going to the U.S. military so that they could go to Germany to keep the tanks going.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
So you literally had a metastructure, whether it's Dulles in Switzerland moving money back and forth or literally the American industrial establishment helping keep the German tanks going. So you literally had a whole corporate infrastructure that was on both sides of the fight.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
Not that I know of. So, you know, and I think that is one of the reasons I think they're going to fail because they don't. You know, I have seen in different sections or spots a culture or a theology or a philosophy, but I've never seen in the overarching. And now what you've seen is you've seen groups, you know, you see some groups who are just, you know, it's just mafia. It's just crime.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
So, you know, I would say culturally, the reason the unipolar model failed was the culture failed.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
For the United States. But if you look at what the groups who seem to be have power positions globally, I think their culture will fail.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
I think China does, but it's weakened tremendously.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
Russia probably has the best shot of anybody. And it's funny, the Russians tried to recruit me in 2005. Oh yeah. And they had a whole speech about how they were building a great culture. And, and if you look at everything they said, or the fellow who was trying to recruit me said, and what they're doing, you know, they seem to be, it seems what he said seems to match what they're doing.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
Well, I have a theory. I know what happens, but I don't – you never know what – And he did a great job of trying to recruit me. And I just kept saying to him, nobody likes a traitor. You know, you have to dance with the guy you came to the party with. And he said, they'll never trust you. They'll never let you back. I said, I know, but I don't care. You know, I'm not...
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
So you literally have the bankers running monetary policy, but then you have the military and intelligence backing it up. And you need both. It's like two hands of one coin. It's like two sides of a coin. And what the bankers do, you grew up in the United States. Most people listening to this grew up in the Western world.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
I'm an American, so you can't change that.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
This is 2005, before I'd settled the litigation. And I went home. I was working in Montana on a food project. So I'm in a ranch in Montana. I got home and I said, something's wrong. Something's really wrong. And they had tried to force me to settle and I wouldn't.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
And the negotiation was just, you know, I was like, you are going to pay me the money you owe me, and I'm not going to settle until you give me the money. And it got really mean. And they had pushed and pushed. It got mean and mean. And I think they really wanted to settle because they knew they were going to bring the mortgage bubble down. And I got home and I said, something's wrong.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
There's something I'm missing here. So I got online and researched and I discovered that Russia and their wealth funds were the number two holder in the world of U.S. mortgage securities. What? Yeah. Yeah. And I said, that was Fannie and Freddie were trying to get me out of town. That wasn't the Russians. That was Freddie and Fannie. And it was right after that that they finally settled.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
They paid me the money. Wow. Right. That's crazy. Well, things, you know, here's the thing. It's not... The world, you know, when you look at things through money, things look very different than they do. Yes. Right.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
Right. So I think it was just a way of getting me out of town and because then they wouldn't have to pay me the money if I was a trader. Right.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
A lot of the people who were following me, You know, they're funded by the U.S. government, but they have contractors. But then the contractors have what I call stringers. You know, people they just pay daily. Enforcers. No, it's just gig work.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
You get an assignment on your smartphone that tells you to follow this person around for the day or something. But they're gig workers. And a lot of them are stringers. You know, they've been, you know, they're like drug addicts or, you know, and they're just making gig money.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
Yeah. So I had the whole portfolio all the way from a real government employee to a government contractor to stringers. So, yeah, I've dealt with them all.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
So I can only tell you what I personally experienced. But they do believe in bloodlines. And the notion of bloodlines is very serious and real. And they do believe, you know, just like they believe in breeding racehorses or champion cattle, they do believe that some people are genetically superior to other people. And that's part of the bloodlines. And I don't know a lot about it.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
And we've had for over a century a model where the bankers run monetary policy and then the people's representatives run fiscal policy. So the whole basis of the American Revolution was no taxation without representation. That means the people's representatives, the Congress or the state legislature, run the fiscal policy the way it's supposed to be.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
I only know what I've experienced, but I don't know a lot about it. What I do know is, One of the big unanswered questions I have is how much have they been doing genetic engineering of children all along? And I suspect they probably have been. So you saw the movie Hannah, right?
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
Oh, see the movie Hannah. It's all in the movies. I remember in America, fact is fiction.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
Right.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
Right. So one of the things I believe, have you ever read Rings of Saturn? No. Oh, that's a book you should read. I can send it to you. Okay. When I first tried to buy it, it was $2,000, so somebody sent it to me in PDF. Holy crap. No, I think, you know, if you can't get it, I'll send you the PDF. Yeah.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
But Berglund was, I think he was at, I can't remember, I think it was NASA, he was an engineer. And when Voyager passed Saturn in 1980, they saw, they call it the thing in the ring. They saw what they thought was like a 70 mile long plasma spaceship docked in the rings, and the theory was that it was getting energy from the ring.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
And that's when the mortgage fraud and the financial fraud exploded. And one of my hypotheses is, you know, did they suddenly say we need as much money as possible to come up to that level of civilization? Because the theory, sort of the history of a more advanced technological, more technologically advanced civilization, meaning less, because it never works out well for the less.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
So it's the same in three-body problem. Crash course, how do we get up here? And one theory on the breakaways is, okay, that's a crash course to get us up to deal with the people who control the thing in the ring. I don't know if it's true, but if you read Popular Mechanics, they say the camera on Voyager magically shut down and, you know, it's complete.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
Anyway, but if you read Rings of Saturn, it's very... Oh, wow. Yeah.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
So we have a subsidiary in the Netherlands, Solera Europa. So I have a Dutch partner and it's 50-50, you know, myself and my Dutch partner. And that group, they do all our audio videos, extraordinary people. I met them because during, from 2010 to now, they've been doing conferences on breakthrough energy and the secret space program. And their breakthrough energy group is called Global BAM.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
It's up on the internet. You can see all their presentations. Global who? BEM. B-E-M. Breakthrough Energy Movement is what it stands for. And, you know, they have a website and they publish all this stuff. And I participated in some of the conferences. But they've been gathering breakthrough energy inventors from all over the world regularly to talk about what's possible.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
I also have two companies. One is Solari Report and the other is Solari Screens. I do an investment screen. And the money manager, one of the money managers we work with on Solari Screens, we have a fund. and he's been an investor for many, many years in a breakthrough energy company. And occasionally I'll talk to him about it. Now, I'm one of those people, science goes in one ear.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
And what has happened in America for the last 20 years is is we've had what I call a financial coup d'etat, where the bankers decided we can't trust the people and the people's representatives to manage the fiscal side, so we're going to change the model and we're going to take over control of both monetary and fiscal.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
So you don't want to ask me about breakthrough energy. But, you know, it's all available up on the Internet. And if you know the story of Tesla... On down to the current, there's lots of documentation and evidence that we have a lot of low-cost forms of energy available.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
You know, I have no idea how they're powering it, but it seems to me, you know, they're doing it, whether it's nuclear energy or breakthrough energy.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
And also, you know, if you look at the people, what they've said, you know, once you can get solar farms up in the suborbital platform and shoot the energy down here, there's also all sorts of ideas about how you can, if you can dramatically lower the cost of energy, that would make you want to have complete control.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
If you're running the planet, you would want to have complete control because if everybody gets breakthrough energy on an out-of-control basis, you've got no way to control them. Right?
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
It's all part of the great poisoning. One of my favorite Saleri reports we ever did was with an attorney named Amy Benjamin. And do you know who Lawrence Wilkerson was? He was chief of staff to Colin Powell when Colin Powell was secretary of state during the Iraq war thing. And sometimes you'll see interviews with him as Colonel Wilkerson.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
He worked over for the Joint Chiefs at DOD when Powell was there and then went over to state with him. Anyway, but Wilkerson called me and he said, he said, I just did a peer review. He was a professor in Virginia. He said, I just did a peer review on secrecy, a journal article on secrecy. And he says, it's the best thing I've ever seen. He said, you're going to love it.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
And of course, if that succeeds, and it's gone very far, but it's not all the way, so let's say we've gone 70% of the way, we have 30 more to go, if that happens, then we lose the ability to determine taxation In other words, we get no representation. If they want the money, they just take it out of our accounts.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
but I can't tell you who wrote it and I can't give it to you until it's approved. And he said, as soon as it's approved, I'm going to send it to you and you want to jump on this. So I did. It was written by Amy Benjamin. She used to work at the Department of Justice. And she did an interview on how all these things have been engineered and kept secret.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
Because when you realize that there's been this whole parallel universe going on and you didn't know it,
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
right it's like how could this go on it may not know it right and and so part of what people have to grapple with is how could this be happening and me not know and amy does an absolutely fabulous job of explaining how this was all engineered and you have literally you know if i were to make a balance sheet of the united states i will tell you more than half the economy is black and secret
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
And so this thing is- More than half. Yes, it's been, if you look at the organized crime money and the black money, it's been getting bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger our whole life. And it's now, and the way I got into all these topics, because when I tell you I had no interest in underground bases, I was just looking for the money. It's like, where is the 21 trillion? Where's it going?
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
And I just kept looking for the money. And what I discovered was this huge secret economy And it was really funny. For many, many years, I had so many wars with the financial guys because they would say the dollar is going to collapse. And I said, no, it's not. It's not going to collapse because it's backed up by invisible weaponry that makes sure it doesn't collapse.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
And it's not going to collapse because when you steal 21 trillion, you've got lots of money. There's no reason to collapse. You're collapsing the people you're stealing it from, but you're you know, you're replete. Okay, you're not going to collapse. You know, the reason they're doing it is so they, you know, they have no reason. They're resource rich. They're not going to collapse.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
So it was really sort of, I'll never forget, there's a famous show I did with Greg Hunter, who's sort of an ally of mine, who I very much...
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
you know we have a very good friendship and greg was screaming at me he said i've had 30 of the most important financial people on this year and they all say the dollar is going to collapse you have to be wrong i said greg i'm right the dollar is going to go up it's going to go up strongly and because i'm looking at all the stolen money right and and so he says finally i said i'll bet you a dollar he said you have to be wrong every financial guy in the world all these top guys are saying it's gonna i said it's not going to collapse it's going to go up
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
And he bet a dollar and I made him pay me because it was up 12% by the end of the year. I mean, it's a big move. And it was Farrell. It was thanks to Farrell that I was working with that I could really – and I was working with some money managers too. But, you know, you have to – if you're going to look at the economy, you have to look at the whole thing.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
And if the secret part is as big as the overt part, you have to look at it on an integrated basis, which is hard, because it's hard to get reliable intelligence, as you know. But that's where the unanswered question comes in, and you have to just frame it.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
Well, here's the thing. If you look at the control grid, it's very, there are two things that are unbelievably environmentally damaging. You have a global population of 8 billion people. If they all want to come up to a level of per capita spending and mineral and other resource uses as the West, enormous environmental pressure.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
Sure. Monetary policy means I get to create the currency. Fiscal policy means I get to collect and spend the taxes.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
Where are you going to get all the minerals to build those roads, have that many cars, et cetera? So you're talking about enormous environmental pressure. That's number one. Number two, if you can institute breakthrough energy, then they're all going to want to have 10 kids, right?
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
More environmental.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
So you solve that by control grid. But the thing that is the most energy wasteful of all is the control grid. Bitcoin, you know, three years ago was using more energy than Switzerland, right? Really? Yeah. In 2023, it was using like 140% of all the energy used by the Netherlands. Well, but you look at the data centers. I mean, just Bloomberg had an article two months ago.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
30 by 2030 is what the article said. 30 new nuclear plants. And China's building nuclear plants, you know, right and left. So the energy, this much data and managing and keeping data, because they're talking about putting sensors throughout the forests.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
You know, you've got internet of bodies, internet of forests, internet of, you know, you're talking about digitizing everything and collecting and managing the data using AI. The energy is enormous.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
okay so so so let's look how your federal government works your federal government grossly oversimplified gets about half of its money to you know fix the roads and do it and run the military um and it gets the money by half of the money from taxing so we all pay federal taxes we all have fees various fines whatever half the money comes from the taxes and half from where
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
And I went from sort of department to department to department, learning all the different markets. And then I figured out, you know, it's all being rigged from Washington. It's the Treasury and the Fed. So I got to go to Washington. So I went to Washington. I was a partner at a firm called Dylan Reed.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
So I called the Patriot Act, the Concentration and Control of Cashflow Act of 2001. And it moved a lot of the black budget stuff on budget, but there, you know, so DOD at that point was missing 4 trillion, but nobody cared. Suddenly they got a $48 billion increase the next year and everybody was spending money.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
There was a Washington Post publication, I think it was in 2012, 10 or 12, called Top Secret America. And one of the journalists sat down and documented every national security installation or building that they could find that was built from the Patriot Act on. And it's just, you just wouldn't believe it. It's unbelievable. I mean, the waste is beyond imagination. Right.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
He's an idiot. Kissinger was always, and I knew him in New York because I used to, I was part of the Republican committee there, Jonathan Bush, the brothers. Jonathan was a good friend of mine and I used to help Jonathan raise money. And so Kissinger would be one of my favorite days in my life. I would frequent, so I'm an investment banker on Wall Street. I'm making a boatload of money.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
I'm having a great life. And I had a restaurant that I loved, and they had one table that was a banquette that was like the best table in the house. And I would always go there, and that was my table. And we would always confirm our reservations three times just to make sure there's no problem. And I had dealt a lot with Kissinger at some of the Republican luncheons. And Kissinger is...
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
He could be the most narcissistic person on the planet. It was unbelievable. Anyway, so I'm standing in line right behind Kissinger, and Kissinger tells the maitre d', who's looking at me, I'm behind him, that he wants that table. And she says, I'm sorry, sir, that's reserved. I can't give it to you. And he's furious. He's just like, I'm Henry Kissinger.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
And she said, I'm sorry, sir, I can't give you that table. Anyway, so I'm with a client, my client, and so he's mad, and she goes off and finally sits him someplace, but he's steaming. And she says, oh, Miss Fitz, your table's ready, and takes me. And my client's looking at me like, who the fuck are you? And Kissinger across the room is like, I hate you. I hate you. I hate you.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
And I'm laughing my head off because it was just like. Oh, my God. Okay, Henry.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
The girls won this one. My client was a female. So Henry was really pissed. Wow. Right. It was pretty funny. That was a great day.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
He said he was a, you know, there's a story about Kissinger and I don't know if it's true that, that he's finally taken into the intersactum and he's given the books of all the classified information that the military knows about what's really going on. And it totally changed him because he was like, okay, we can't tell anybody.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
Yeah.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
How would that affect you? I don't know. You know, I've tried. I have tried. If you look at all the paranormal phenomena on this planet, I've tried to understand it and figure it out. And I can't figure it out. You know, but I've been through most of the material. Farrell and I did a great two hour interview called Who is Mr. Global? And we went through every different hypothesis.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
It's the committee that runs the world. So there's a committee at the top that makes all the big decisions. And my nickname for it is Mr. Global. So the question is, who is Mr. Global and why is Mr. Global doing what he's doing? Because when I look at a situation, I like to put myself in somebody else's shoes. Like if I was Danny and I was doing this, what would it look like from my point of view?
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
And so I want to put myself in Mr. – why is Mr. Global doing this? What's Mr. Global's point of view? So anyway, so Joseph and I went through and did who is Mr. Global and why is he doing what he's doing? So we went through all the theories, but –
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
Half comes from the central bank.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
My favorite, some of my favorite comments on the Internet is people say they'll say, well, she worked at the White House and, you know, she knows who she's not telling us. No, everybody at the White House is not sure.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
I think you have intergenerational pools of capital, and right now they are over-influenced by a cult. A cult. Yes. So I think you have interdimensional intelligence, which is operating, demonic intelligence.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
The central banking mechanism right now, the currency is issued with debt. It doesn't have to be, but it is. So the New York Fed, so the Treasury, your bank account as a citizen, the New York Fed is the depository for your bank account. Okay.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
Yeah. So I think this thing about good and evil is real. And I can't find it anymore. I found it once. In the 30s, a British physicist got up and said, you know, we are being manipulated from other dimensions by intelligent beings from other dimensions. So I think, you know, if you study Christianity and you read the Bible, you're dealing with both divine intelligence and demonic intelligence.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
And I think too much of the leadership has gotten deeply involved in the occult and demonic kinds of intelligence. Wow. So I just read a book and I have no idea. So I've tried to find every theory to explain the paradigm stuff. So I'm not telling you this is true, but I just finished reading a book called Final Event by Nick Redfern. I don't know if you've ever read it.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
And he describes it's an exploration of a group of military intelligence in the United States called the Collins elite.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
And they came to believe that the E.T. phenomena was a demonic phenomena. It was not people from another planet. It was demonic intelligence. It was biblical stuff. Right. Right. And one of the things he discovered was that – or the Collins elite apparently discovered is in many sort of E.T. abduction events, if you called on Jesus Christ, it would stop. What? Yeah, yeah. That's what he reported.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
And he strikes me, I don't know anything about him, but it struck me as someone who was trying to do a faithful job of simply reporting what they found.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
So I am sure that all of that stuff is happening. Yeah. So I think we are dealing with demonic and angelic forces in our world. And that's interdimensional intelligence. So the Bible calls it, you know, demons and angels. Other people call it fifth dimension or whatever. But I think we're absolutely. And I will tell you what I think is the most important thing to understand about the universe.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
So write this down. This is my favorite. My favorite new book is A New Science of Heaven by Robert Temple. Oh, yeah. 99% of the material in the universe is plasma. Our universe is made up of plasma. And I used to hear that David Bohm said this and other physicists as well, but Temple's really documented and nailed it. And I'm sure he's right. Plasma is alive and it's intelligent.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
okay so they are the federal government's bankers the treasury account is at the new york fed and its members banks so the new york fed is owned by its members but they also act as agent so you're going to have the largest banks in the country owning and directing the new york fed choosing its president but also you know doing depository functions for the treasury so they as agent are also doing various things for the treasury okay
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
And that means life is alive and intelligent. Plasma or dark matter? Plasma. Plasma. Plasma. But, you know, let me make it simple. The universe is alive and intelligent.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
And we share intelligence with all life. You know, so in the Lord of the Rings, when the trees show up to help, that's real.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
So... Life is alive. And the notion that you can take digital technology and control it centrally, once you understand that, is so ridiculous. Only a demonic intelligence would come up with that plan. Right?
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
I know nothing. I know nothing about it.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
So I would say that there is a non-alignment between the teachings of Jesus Christ and what Peter Thiel and his companies are doing.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
I don't know. I don't know. I would need to understand a lot more.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
Well, here's the problem. The problem is that there has been so much financial fraud and corruption that you have a real breakdown in productivity in the general population. And so, you know, there is a vested interest if you don't want to depopulate everybody and getting everybody to be productive. And they're not going to be productive unless they believe in morals and have morals.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
So, I mean, our problem, the reason the unipolar model failed, in my opinion, is we're not agreement capable. And the leadership is not agreement capable, but now the message is to the population, you don't need to be agreement capable.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
And when a complex society depends on the rule of law or at least the appearance of the rule of law, you take away the ability to be agreement capable and the society fails.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
So they have a function called primary dealer. And a primary dealer is authorized to go borrow money using treasury bonds and bills. So they borrow money. So that's sort of part of how the currency gets into existence. And they put it in the treasury bank account. So half comes from taxes and half comes from borrowing. A lot of that coming from your retirement account or my pension fund. Wow.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
So one of the questions I would ask, I'm trying to remember. I have to look up and learn how to pronounce his name. Mo, G-A-W-D-A-T. He's Egyptian. He was the chief business officer at Google. Do you know him? He wrote the book Unstressable or Happy. He discovered AI when he was at Google. Yeah, there he is.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
Oh, God. Wonderful, wonderful man. So he's an engineer. He was the chief business officer at Google. And then he discovered and worked with AI and his immediate inspiration. his immediate reaction was to quit and completely change his life. And one of the things he said is, if you look at how quickly the IQ of AI is growing and how far as a processor
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
it is surpassing us, you realize we better hope that it's learning a moral culture from us, that we're teaching it morality. Because if we don't, we're in real trouble. And I think... Dealing, you know, his reaction to AI has been that which I've seen from others, which is to say the most important thing is not my smarts, it's my values. And I've got to revisit and invest in rebuilding my values.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
Okay. Okay. Okay. So, so our retirement fund, or it could be a Norwegian pension fund or sovereign wealth fund, you know, are buying treasury bonds and the money's going into the bank account. And that's where half comes from, which is why if you're the president of the United States, it's like getting an allowance from dad. If you don't do what dad wants, you're not going to get your allowance.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
So let me describe it this way. There are two ways to get power in this world. One is to amass force, whether it's financial force, legal force, physical force, but ultimately it comes out of a gun. And power on planet Earth is run out of a gun. It comes from force. There's another way to get power. And that's from righteousness.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
In other words, if you have the power to call on divine intelligence, not just as an individual, but as a group. And you have the ability to make and keep contracts across time and space and communicate across time and space, you know, freely and openly. You know, if you go read the Bible, that's the story of Gideon. That's the story of Jericho. There's another way to get power.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
And ultimately, 8 billion people operating that power is more powerful than all the...
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
the bombs and the demonic force and they know that that's one of the reasons they you know they don't want us to know that to come to that power but you know you you have to understand i don't know if you did you ever read ingo swan he's got a great oh yeah power yeah i haven't read the books but i'm familiar with you read his book on power but ingo swan was a scientologist
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
Ingo Swann was a remote viewer. And a Scientologist. Right. But he was, what do they call it? They called Leonardo da Vinci the same thing. He was one of those people who's sort of a genius. Like a polymath? Yeah, polymath. And anyway, but there is another way to get power. And if you train a population to operate without morals, you make them powerless.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
I think a one-world religion would be a joke. I mean, I just, you know.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
Well, religion, organized religion misused.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
So, I mean, religion has been true. Religion has been the source of many great things, so.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
This- You think? You think? I'm absolutely sure.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
You have to. There's a one. Did you ever watch the TV series Yellowstone?
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
So I'm a huge Taylor Sheridan fan. Okay. Just a huge shirt.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
Anyway, but I don't know if you remember the second season where the big issue is what are we going to do about the Beck brothers? Okay.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
okay and so they have to come up with a way of legally killing the beck brothers because they got to kill them right there's nothing and and the sun corners one of the beck brothers on you know in the bathroom right before he shoots him and he says why do you make us do it why do you you know why why do you why did you force us to kill you and the guy says because nobody ever fights back and the sun says we do bang you're dead
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
And then he goes and sits on the porch with his dad and his dad says, you know, the trick is to be, you know, is to be more evil than evil so that you can stop evil and protect your family, but still love your family and enjoy a sunset. So the question is, how can I outwit and defeat great evil and still have the capacity to love? That is the question.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
You don't have sovereignty. You don't have financial sovereignty. And you don't have information sovereignty because you, as the president, can't have a private telephone call. You've got 17 intelligence agencies. Even the president. Especially the president. Especially the president. They'd much rather know what he's saying than you or I was saying. Right. I guess that's true. Right. Okay.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
And a great moral government can do that, but you have to be prepared. So I probably shouldn't say the story. My sister, a group of people many years ago was trying to get me to run for president in New Hampshire, not because I had a chance of winning, but just so to bring disclosure, to get people to understand what was going on. And I absolutely refused. I said, I had nothing to do with it.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
So my sister called me and she said, well, what, you know, okay, let's just pretend you're willing to do it. What will we have to get for you to be able to do it? I said, you would have to give me 250 licenses to kill, no questions asked. And she's a lawyer. She said, that is the most unethical and moral thing I've ever heard.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
I said, how am I supposed to run an organized crime syndicate unless I have the ability to enforce?
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
Right. So she thought that was unethical. I didn't think it was unethical. She asked me what I needed to do the job effectively. Right. Right.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
No, in order to do a good job at the job. So if you're going to stop evil, you're going to have to use force. And you're going to have to use it wisely, and you're going to have to use it well. But you're going to have to use it.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
Because you're you're dealing. What was it? What was that great scene when president when Jack Nicholson is the president? He's talking to the aliens and he says, why can't we just all get along and they kill him?
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
Right.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
ask farrell farrell yeah farrell has a phd in petristics from oxford and get him to explain it's all a bunch of hooey yeah yeah that's just an organized crime syndicate is great it's been so how do you think we get back on the right path then on this where it seems like we're on this downward spiral right now We are definitely on a downward spiral, and we have to change the model.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
And what we focus on at Solari, so if you come to Solari, we have something called the Building Wealth Curriculum. I told you to go take a look at it. Yeah, I watched it. I think we have to decide, do we want to be free or do we want to be in the control grid? And so we're going to have to slow down and stop the control grid. And there are many things you can do.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
So we have several big pieces on how to work with your state legislature and all the things the state legislature can do under the Constitution to protect the Constitution and to stop the control grid. Okay. And I think that's one thing.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
Right. So how are you going to run a government if you don't have information sovereignty and you don't have financial sovereignty? How are you going to do that?
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
The other thing is if you look at how many of us are financing the control grid, supporting the control grid, supporting the people who are implementing the control grid, are going to work in implementing ourselves, we can all just stop doing that. And so that's another thing we can do. And we have an article, I want to stop CBDCs, what can I do? So we have a fantastic amount of information.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
But then I also think each one of us can go to work in our own life because this is a one control and freedom happen one person at a time. And what you can do is make sure you and your family are controlled, that you're free, but you use your time and money to do things that help other people be free. Because you and I can't be free unless everybody else is free. It's an all or nothing thing.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
So we have to grow and adopt a culture where we're getting our power not from a gun, but we're getting our power from righteousness. And we are doing things that help our family be free, like protecting them from the great poisoning.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
I mean, you, Danny Jones, should be doing everything in your family to make sure your water, your food, your whole way of life is protecting your family from the great poisoning. There are many, many things you can do to do that, especially because you live in a very beautiful place.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
And so we have to live our lives and live our lives where we adopt and support the culture that is healthy and help those around us do the same. And if you come into Saleri, that's what our whole Building Wealth curriculum is about.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
And all of our political action, we've invested extraordinary money in the last two years trying to help state legislatures do those things under the Constitution they can do to slow down and stop the control grid. We can stop it. We still have time to stop it.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
So you've heard, have you heard my red button story?
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
I'm optimistic that it's possible. I'm not – If you look at how many people are just going along with it, it's pretty scary. And it's funny because the number one criticism I've gotten over the last year is I'm critical because I'm not supporting the president. And my attitude is if the president is implementing a digital control grid, no, I'm not going to support him on that, you know.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
And, you know, it's not personal. I want to be free.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
Right. So and I think a lot of people I've always told everyone, look, you can't. The federal government is financially dependent on the bankers. You can't implement real change inside the federal government. I mean, you can implement some, but the kind of change we need are millions of people saying, no, we won't go into the control grid.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
I mean, if tomorrow everybody got up and just 10% pulled their money out of JPMorgan Chase and said, you know, we don't want to be controlled, whether by CBDCs or stable coins, it would rock the world.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
So there are solutions to all of that. I mean, if we were to change the financial liquidity on the ground, we could make things wonderful for the young people. And the young people could, you know, build companies and lead us out of this. So we could revive Main Street. The money is there and the ability to do it is there. I mean, that's all possible.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
And in fact, I have an online book called Dylan Reed and the Aristocracy of Stock Profits about sort of it's a case study in the intersection between organized crime and Wall Street in Washington. Anyway, so I went to Washington in the first Bush administration to be assistant secretary of housing. And it's the federal housing commissioner.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
But, you know, it starts with recognizing the way we're going isn't going to work. And you have a group of people who are using the federal budget to centralize power. So what I can show you is the federal budget, the vast majority of money, I can't tell you what the waste is like. So, for example, back to the foreclosed properties at HUD.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
I would find neighborhoods where we were spending $250,000 per unit to build public housing where 50,000 would buy and rehab a foreclosed property in the FHA properties. So we could get four or five homes for the price of one.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
But they wouldn't change it because when I took the material to the woman who was the special assistant, the guy who ran the public housing program, she said, but how would we generate fees for our friends? The entire federal budget is engineered around fees for our friends. And I don't see anything being done to change that.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
But we could change that because you can't, if you look at the laws that apply to financial management, I mean, the laws are all there if we implement and enforce them. So this can be changed.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
Okay. Well, I'm happy. I'm happy. You know, I sent you a lot of homework before we did this. I'm happy to send you more homework.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
Yeah.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
Solari screens, but just go to Solari. Everything branches off of Solari.com.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
Thank you, Danny Jones. Thank you.
Danny Jones Podcast
#305 - $21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts
Okay.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Catherine Fitts: Bankers vs. the West, Secret Underground Bases, and the Oncoming Extinction Event
The US economy and financial system is the leader globally in laundering dirty money. I said to this wonderful group, let's pretend there's a big red button up here on the lectern. And if you push that button, you can stop all hard narcotics trafficking tomorrow. Who here will push the button?
The Tucker Carlson Show
Catherine Fitts: Bankers vs. the West, Secret Underground Bases, and the Oncoming Extinction Event
And and they wanted to control the process.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Catherine Fitts: Bankers vs. the West, Secret Underground Bases, and the Oncoming Extinction Event
The capital.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Catherine Fitts: Bankers vs. the West, Secret Underground Bases, and the Oncoming Extinction Event
So I think they wanted to build the capacity to become a multiplanetary civilization. Really?
The Tucker Carlson Show
Catherine Fitts: Bankers vs. the West, Secret Underground Bases, and the Oncoming Extinction Event
So I didn't become convinced of that in 1994. I became convinced. Were you still working for the federal government in 94? my company was the lead financial advisor for the Department of Housing and Urban Development. And I was trying to clean up the mortgage corruption.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Catherine Fitts: Bankers vs. the West, Secret Underground Bases, and the Oncoming Extinction Event
So essentially what they're building, because it's converting a currency system into a control system. So it's really the end of currency. And what they're doing is they've been building the different digital pieces. And when it integrates and comes together, then you literally have a digital concentration camp. It's complete and utter control.
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And what I ran smack into is that they were clearly and intentionally setting up the infrastructure to dramatically increase mortgage fraud, intentionally. Mortgage fraud is a public-private partnership between the New York Fed member banks and the federal government. So the Treasury and the Fed were clearly engineering a massive new mortgage bubble.
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And essentially, I was doing a series of things. And that mortgage bubble was going to centralize capital. And I was working on a whole plan coming out of the Bush administration. We were taking all our profits and investing in building a software infrastructure that would help communities decentralize political and economic power, but in a way that would create new great wealth.
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And one of the projects we had was we were working with, I had a subsidiary that had a project working with the top pension fund leaders in the country. And essentially our job was to figure out how the pension funds could invest so that they could handle this baby boomer demographic going through the pension and retirement system.
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and how we could do it, how they could invest their money, because they're operating at such a size that it would be good for America. How do you build a stronger America in a way that helps the baby boomers live in retirement?
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And I made a presentation in the spring of 1997 to, we were at a big money management firm outside of Pennsylvania, and one of the board members was a money manager who worked with a lot of the pension funds. And so we had all these top corporate and state pension fund leaders. And I made a presentation. We had done a simulation of reengineering the Philadelphia economy to achieve this.
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And the top pension fund leader looked at me and he said, oh, my God, you know, this is very similar to what we tried long ago and it didn't work. And I said, you didn't have the Internet. You didn't have the Internet. tools to get the average person's learning metabolism high enough, you know, on an economic basis to do that.
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We had built a data servicing company in low income communities, and we were able to show how easily we could get the labor force or people on welfare off of welfare and make making lots of money and being very productive at high speed. And he looked at me and he said, you don't understand, it's too late. I said, what do you mean it's too late? He said, they've given up on the country.
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They're moving all the money out starting in the fall. He said, you've got to get to Nick Brady. Nick had been my, I had been a partner at Dillon Reed and Nick had been the chairman of Dillon Reed before he became secretary of treasury. And at that point, Nick is out, but sort of involved. Anyway, he said, you've got to get to Nick and let him know it's not hopeless. This can all be turned around.
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And I thought he meant we, the pension funds, have been instructed to reinvest equity and reallocate our equity into the emerging markets, which made sense because they had a much higher growth rate. What I didn't realize then was, and I realized shortly thereafter,
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in october of 1997 that's the beginning of the 1998 fiscal year huge enormous amounts of money started go started disappearing from the us government and literally um by the time of 9 11 there was 4.1 trillion missing from dod and hud and if you remember the day before 9 11 donna rumsfeld stood up
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and and basically said he he did a press conference and he said there's 2.3 trillion in undocumented adjustments last year at dod and we're missing money and it's you know it's worse than terrorism and then of course i was working with a report on a huge story that would have published that friday after 9 11 about the missing money we'd been working on it for over a year and she'd done nine stories i'd helped her do nine stories because we were trying to get the general accounting office um
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Here's the thing to understand. You and I grew up in a world where there was mass media, where you were pitching stories, you know, so you had 57 varieties of ice cream and you're pitching them to 57 different niches, but you're still pitching to mass audiences. What we're talking about is a system where you can surveil, control, and influence one person at a time.
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Now they call it the General Accountability Office. But we were trying to get both Congress and the GAO to do something about it and to try and stop it. And anyway, as you know.
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Well, but here's what. I call the Patriot Act the Control and Concentration of Cash Flow Act. Because one of the things that happened after 9-11, if you look at the history of the black budget and sort of secret financing that the government uses for secret and classified projects, that pot of money had grown and grown and grown. And it had become very dysfunctional to try and get that money.
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Mortgage fraud to... I believe was one of the biggest sources. And that's why what I was doing sort of went into the heart of the problem. But the Patriot Act and that whole process was very successful at moving a lot more money onto the budget. In other words, it made it much easier to get enormous amounts of money for the national security state. as a result of what happened.
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Now, you know, whenever you do an operation like this, you stack functions, so it's only one of many goals, but it was very successful.
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I want to tell you my church story.
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that people in the u.s government and in the finance world wanted money for yeah it wasn't us it was the central banking if you look at the center if you look at the group of people who meet through the bis what's that the bank the bis is the bank of international settlements and it's the central bank of central banks where is that located it's in basel switzerland
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And it has 63 of the most powerful central banks as its members. And the New York Fed and the Fed are both shareholders. They became shareholders in 1994.
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And out of 100 people dedicated to evolving our society spiritually, guess how many would push the button?
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Okay, so there are two things you need to know about the Bank of International Settlements.
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It is.
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It has sovereign immunity.
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It's above the law.
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Right. It's its own country. It has its own police force. And essentially, other than one of its staff being in a car accident or, you know, minor things, no one has the legal authority to move against it. Okay. And a sovereign immunity. That's number one. Number two, it can move money and hold it on its bank, on its balance sheet and manage money secretly. Okay.
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So if I want to, and I'm grossly oversimplifying, if I want to steal $21 trillion from the U.S. government and park it on the balance sheet of the BIS, it can move it anywhere in the world and it can keep it on its balance sheet secretly.
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It was created after World War I and sort of collected its powers and got going in the 30s. And it was created in theory to manage the reparations of the German government. But if you read the real history, it was because the Bank of England and the central bankers wanted an entity that had sovereign immunity. They wanted to be able to move money secretly
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And with AI and software, each person can have their custom surveillance, influence, nudging, and control system.
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So, for example, if you look at what happened during World War II and all the money that was moving back and forth between the Germans and Americans, you know, Dulles was over in Switzerland helping to match all these transfers back and forth.
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So, there's a wonderful book called The Tower of Basel by a wonderful Hungarian journalist where he documents and describes the whole history of the Bank of International Settlements. And if you want to understand... Power in this world, understanding how the Bank of International Settlements and the plumbing of the central banking system works is very, very important.
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no no so i just have to say that reality is sort of the door that you open to find real solutions so there are real solutions and and the biggest obstacle to implementing them is nobody wants to face it so i used to have a pastor nobody wants to face the truth of how things nobody wants to face the truth and i understand that because the hardest thing i ever had to do tucker
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was look in the mirror and say i'm the patsy i was the assistant secretary of housing i didn't know and i went along and i didn't face this i should have seen this faster i should have said i'm the patsy and it was it's sometimes it's harder than facing death to admit that you've been part of, you know, a big lie and you've been tricked.
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yes enforcement because ultimately if you control money you can starve people to death you can kill them right so go back and think of the pandemic so if i say you can't go more than a mile from your home and i say you can't you have to be mandated a pharmaceutical then if you don't take the pharmaceutical i can turn off your money
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Oh, no. Yes, I did. Well, you know, part of facing this is you have to forgive yourself. You really have to. But I used to have a pastor who would say, if we can face it, God can fix it. Because you have to understand, we can't fix it. There are many, many things we can do to change the course. And I believe ultimately freedom can prevail. And there's many things we can do to help that happen.
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But ultimately, this is a spiritual war and you have to call on God. You have to call on the divine. And that's where the battle is ultimately going to be decided. And that means literally, I believe this is true, the divine intelligence cannot go to work unless we're willing to face it. You know, we have to look at it. We have to pray. We have to ask for help. And we have to deal with it.
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And the solutions, the real solutions will be cultural. There'll be millions of people acting in their own life, refusing to be controlled, you know, individually.
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so here's what happened and we have two wrap-ups and i think i sent them to you one is uh we published in 2015 called space here we go and it's got a picture of a businessman you know taking off in a spaceship and then we in 2017 after a couple of the big investment banks wrote big things about space investment we wrote one called the space-based economy and then we we track space on solar reports so i would refer you to that but i think um
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I think, you know, first of all, you've seen a lot of capital centralized into a few billionaires who then reinvest that money in space. So Musk, Bezos, you know, so clearly there's a centralization of capital and a reinvestment.
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Right. So let me give you a couple reasons why. First of all, you're looking for, the miners are looking for a variety of different resources. So there are practical reasons if you can get the cost down that you would want to do asteroid mining. The big one, the big economic one is control is most easily implemented by satellites.
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So you want to put up a whole ring of satellites that combined with telecommunications can basically help run the control grid. And not just the control grid in the West, the control grid. If you're going to shift huge amounts of money globally, how are you going to track and enforce that your money is being properly invested? Well, you need a control grid globally. So I think that's part of it.
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The last thing, and I don't know the answer to this, is I think there is real concern about geophysical risks.
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and one way to deal with that is to make sure we don't bet the ranch on one planet
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if you go more than a mile away from your home your money and your credit cards won't work so if you know whatever rules i lay down there's a wonderful uh wonderful example the head of the bank of international settlements is the central bank of central banks and it's been running the process to implement basically an all-digital monetary system And they have innovation hubs all over the world.
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It's just an op.
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Yeah.
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So I think the first is a solar minimum where you get big drops in the economy and the agriculture and you can't feed the population. Right.
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Right.
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Right. So we know throughout history we go through periods of solar minimum.
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I think it's called solar minimum. I'm not an expert in any of this.
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Right. It's not coming from human behavior. Now, there are environmental problems coming from human behavior. For sure. That's for sure. Right. So that's one.
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I don't know.
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If you look at the history of solar minimums and you look at what it does to – there was a Russian – I can't remember if he was an economist or science that did a lot of research on the stock market and solar activity. And if you're the central bankers and you're in charge of managing the financial system, that – That reality would make me very nervous. Okay.
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So, you know, I think there's something there worth understanding. The other thing is, it appears to me, if you go back through history, every 10,000, 12,000 years, we have, you know, some kind of huge disaster.
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An extinction, a near extinction event. So I don't know if you've ever read the science fiction book Three Body Problem. No. It's fascinating. It's one of the top Chinese science fiction. And it's about a plant.
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No, no, no, no, because here's the thing. I'm just trying to figure out what in the world's going on.
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And so that always, as you know, that always leads you to the most. It does. Right. So in one, I think it was, I think the thing that got me to read Three-Body Problem was Obama made some cryptic comment about people ought to read this book. It was like, hint, hint, you know, here are the problems I'm dealing with. And the Three-Body Problem is about,
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other bodies that come into the solar system and it's impossible to predict their trajectory. And then when they do, they create this catastrophic flooding and earthquakes and all this other stuff. Anyway, but I think that there, whether it's a pole shift, magnetic pole shift is one of the, you know, theories of what causes these events. But there is a history of near extinction events.
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And one of the things that I've looked at, because I'm trying to figure out, you know, between fiscal 1998 and fiscal 2015, There were 21 trillion of undocumented adjustments in the U.S. government. If you go to our website, missingmoney.salyer.com, we have years and years of documentation, including the government financials that show this. And so the question is, where's all this money going?
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And one of the things I've looked at in the process of looking at where all this money is going is the underground base and city infrastructure and transportation system that's been built.
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Yes. So we have built an extraordinary number of underground bases and supposedly transportation systems. Some of these are documented as part of the national security infrastructure. I think there are many more.
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They've been running this process for a long time. And in 2020, when the pandemic started, or it was October 2020, so the pandemic was underway, the general manager of the Bank of International Settlements was on an IMF panel. And in one minute, first time in my life I ever saw a central banker tell the truth, I fell off my chair.
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in the United States, all over the world. But from 2021 to 2023, I took one of the smartest subscribers in the Salir Report network, and he and I spent two years collecting all the data and all the allegations on underground bases. And then we systematically went through and tried to estimate our guess.
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This is totally a guess of how many underground bases, both underground in the United States, but also underground under the ocean around the United States. And our estimate was 170 with the transportation network connecting them.
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The purpose, if you thought you were going to get a near extinction event, so there, to me, there are two purposes. You have so many activities going on that you need to keep secret that you're basically building the capacity to, for example, if you're doing a secret space program, you need to platform it from, you know, things that can't be seen.
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But I think if you're worried about a near extinction event, you know, that's
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Yeah, it's preparation for catastrophe.
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Oh, yeah. So, if you're interested, we have a great interview. I did an interview of Richard Dolan on underground bases on the Solari Report, and it's sort of an introduction to the topic, and it's based on a lot of the research of a guy named Richard Sauter, who is very hard to interview. So, Richard kind of went through all the material. And, you know, clearly it's...
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I don't know if you ever saw, Washington Post did a project, it was in 2010 or 12, called Top Secret America. And one of the reporters, it was a team of two reporters, one of them put together a database of all the different top secret installations that had been built in the country, including since the Patriot Act. And what you saw was just this explosion of money.
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and building so many both underground and above ground facilities.
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And he said, you know, the beauty of this is we can set the rules ourselves. on how your money works, and we have the technology to enforce them. And what he was saying is literally from one place in, you know, anywhere in the world where the technology exists, you can track each person individually.
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So I'll tell you a very funny story.
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So I'll tell you a very funny story. So after I left the administration, after I left the Bush administration, I went on the board of Sallie Mae. And I'm on the board of Sallie Mae. And after one of the first meetings, there's a wonderful stop.
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Okay. So I'm on the board and there was a lovely chairman, a really lovely guy. And he comes up, he says, can I talk to you after the meeting? And I said, sure. And he pulls out this big glossy brochure for the Council on Foreign Relations. And he said, the time has come for you to join. And he said, we want you to ask Nick, Nick Brady, to sponsor you.
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And I said to him, you know, Sam, I just don't want to do this. I just, I really don't want to do this. And he looked shocked and he said, you don't understand. If you don't do this, you're out forever. And just at that moment... Just in that moment, you know, it's these moments when things come to you.
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I saw in my mind, I'm very pictorial, I saw in my mind a locker in the underground base and they were taking my name off of the locker. And I thought, you know, if it comes to that, I'll take my chances upstairs.
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And I said, but it's this, it's a, you know, something it's at the deepest root. It's a spiritual and cultural question.
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But to me, there's nothing wrong with going into a bunker if they're bombing, okay? I don't have a problem with that. But I really didn't want to be with all of them in a concentrated space. It was like, no, I'd rather... And you know them.
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I know a lot of these people. And the one thing I will have to say, if there's anything I learned from my history... The problem is not they are bad and we are good. That's not how this works. The evil and the good is threaded at every level of society, every community, every enterprise. It doesn't work like that.
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So if you want to move people to a much lower economic footprint, having complete control is obviously very convenient.
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You can set a complex list of rules, you know, like legislation, regulation, and administrative policy, and you can enforce them all with the technology provided
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Right.
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Well, it's a journey. It's never over. Right. And we're not perfect. And it's you try every day to do as good as you can. You know, and it's like baseball. You get some hits some days and some days you strike out.
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Where's the energy? Are we using breakthrough energy or? Where's the energy come? Right. Right. Because I'm sure that we have the ability to to produce breakthrough energy at very low cost. You know, if you go back.
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My Dutch partners I met because they were doing a series of conferences on breakthrough energy. And they brought together breakthrough energy inventors from around the world. And, you know, you can see all the videos up on the Internet and really went through the history from Tesla on of different inventors who have discovered breakthroughs.
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and claim different innovations with breakthrough energy. And I'm convinced that this energy exists. And I'm also convinced if you look at a lot of the really fast ships, you know, flying around the planet, you know, that they, you know, they're not using classical electricity.
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Right, exactly. Right. So...
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with ai and software so have you ever seen there's a wonderful movie called the um the lives of others about the german stasi and surveillance it's about a group of artists and sort of creative talented people who are under surveillance by the german stasi and you see what it's like to be under surveillance for 24 7.
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Right.
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So one of the questions I have that I think is really important is when you look at breakthrough energy, if you are running the planet, so I have this nickname for the committee at the top, Mr. Global. If you were Mr. Global, you would not want to implement breakthrough energy on a widespread basis for a variety of reasons, one of which is everybody got a hold of it and weaponized it.
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It could be very dangerous.
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My understanding is that literally one small group of people could take this, you know, with no sovereign powers or, you know, just organized crime and use it in a way that could weaponize it and make it very dangerous. I don't I'm not a scientist. I don't really understand.
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Right.
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Right. But if you're if you're if you're the risk manager and you're in charge of managing the planet, you know, this has more disruption capability, both weaponization, economic, you know, suddenly everybody is free to do whatever they want. And so they're much harder to control.
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So if you're Mr. Global and you have the capacity to dramatically lower the energy cost, the other danger is then population skyrockets and you're concerned about that. So if you're Mr. Global and you're worried about what will happen if you bring this technology out, it's very convenient to get complete control.
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If you don't trust the population to be environmentally responsible or politically responsible, then complete control.
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I think there's a very high chance that they're in some kind of use in a very controlled, secret way.
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Think of each one of us, we're all under surveillance, not just by governments, but by corporations who are trying to do something and it may not be anything nefarious. So 80 different companies are trying to sell you something or 80 different companies are trying to get your data for some reason.
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So I have two businesses. One is the Solari Report. The other is Solari Screens. I do an investment screen. And I think, you know, a lot has to shift in investment if we're going to have a real civilization and not misallocate. I think we're misallocating capital terribly anyway. But he for 30 years has been an investor in a breakthrough energy company.
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Yeah, yeah. And it's called Brilliant Light. You can go look at their website, you know. And they're really, you know, they swear they've got it.
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Don't ask me. Yeah, you got to get him on.
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So I think I call it a financial coup. I think what happened was when the budget deal busted in 1995, they gave up on the government. They just said, you know, this form of government will not work as a governance structure to manage the dollar system.
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And they just felt it was impossible. If you're a risk manager, you got to turn the aircraft carrier before you hit the iceberg. And that could be 20 years before. Do you know what I mean? And they just felt that the system wasn't working and it required to get consensus. You just had to dumb people down and buy them off. And it just wasn't working.
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So I think they decided, okay, we're going to re-engineer government on the just do it method. And the first thing we're going to do is we're going to pull all the money out. We're going to put the government in a debt trap and then we'll squeeze it and shift to the control model. And it was a financial coup and it started in fiscal 1998. So it started literally October 1st, 1997.
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By 2015, we had reports in their financials of 21 trillion of undocumented adjustments. From a cash standpoint, it could be 50 trillion or 10 trillion. There's no way to tell unless you can get access to the bank records. And then what happened was Dr. Mark Skidmore of Michigan State University and I published a study
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sort of a survey we had done thanks to him and his students that announced that we were up to the 21 trillion at that point then the next step that happened remember the kavanaugh hearings very well okay what you don't remember is during the kavanaugh hearings the white house the senate
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And so they have AI and software bots that track you and follow you and learn from you and try and influence what you do because they're trying to extract some kind of value from you. from you and literally think of, you know, being attacked by a swarm of bees. We're surrounded now by a swarm of AI software bots, all trying to learn from us, extract something from us or get us to do something.
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And the House, Republican and Democrat, all of them together instituted, issued an administrative policy called Federal Accounting Standards Advisory Board Statement 56.
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You did miss that. Yeah.
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And what that policy said is as a matter of administrative policy, we do not have to obey the constitutional provisions related to financial budgeting and disclosure. We do not have to obey the laws and we do not have to obey the regulations.
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What we can do is appoint a secret group of people by a secret process to move money out of the financial disclosures of the United States and 150, so it's the 24 covered agencies plus approximately 150 governmental entities. And when you throw in the classification laws and the national security laws, it also applies to the big banks and contractors working for the U.S. government.
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Now, let me explain what this means as a matter of investment. When I look at the U.S. large cap stock market or the U.S. bond market, the treasury market, I have no financial disclosure that has any meaning. Everything's secret. I have no idea what it means. If I pick up the financials of a New York Fed member bank that is running the U.S.
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Treasury Department's bank accounts, or if I pick up the Treasury financial statements, they're meaningless. They don't mean anything.
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You can't know. All you can know is a secret group of people can make whatever they want go missing, and you can't know what it is. It's all secret. So I'm looking at half the cake, but I don't know what part of the cake is missing. So it's meaningless.
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Right. I don't. It's, you know, it has reached a level of absurdity. But the absurd thing is, as a legal matter, to take the position that an administrative policy agreed upon by the uniparty can overrule the Constitution, can overrule the laws, and can overrule the regulations simply by...
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know like the you know you you wave the wand and suddenly magically law doesn't matter i mean now you're talking and and you also saw this in in the financial crisis a decision was made by eric holden the department of justice to not prosecute hsbc there's a wonderful uh video on the best evidence channel by john titus about this whole thing and basically what they said is a systemically important
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This is under the BIS. There's a definition under the BIS, under the Financial Stability Board of a financially systemically important institution. These institutions are free to break the law with no... They're free to break the law. At most, all they have to do is kick back a piece of the profits to the Department of Justice. So it's like a formal kickback system.
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And what you're saying is that you're taking the sovereign immunity of the BIS and through the New York Fed, extending it to the banks that are running these operations.
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Right. So what you've done with the BIS, the IMF, the World Bank, the UN, you've created all these different organizations. And if you look at, we did like 40 in Latin America, you've created an international overlay of organizations that have various forms of sovereign immunity. Of course, the big one being the BIS. Right.
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And so if they are free to break the law, I mean, if you look at the financial crisis, what you're saying is these companies can lose trillions of dollars, have it replaced by the taxpayer and keep on going.
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Now, when you go to an all digital system, then there's no escape. And then they can start literally to enforce rules. They do now.
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Right. So that's the question, sort of who is Mr. Global? And my experience is the bureaucracy that sort of runs things is the central banking bureaucracy. So we've described the BIS and the central bankers. So think of the planet as a house. So you have the house, then you have financing the house, that's the mortgage.
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Then you have the insurance, and you know if you don't have the insurance, then you have the equity in the house, right? And the insurance layer is very, very important to make sure that the equity is protected, right? Okay, so you got the real assets, you've got the banking system, you've got the insurance system, and then you've got the owners, right?
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So in my experience, if you go to the BIS and you look at the systemically important institutions and the members, you know, that's the bureaucracy that runs the debt and the transaction system. So the, you know, the transactions, because the whole thing depends on being able to swap and transact. The insurance group is very important for the reasons you just described, same as on your house.
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And then the question is, who are the real owners? And that's the mystery. And I've spent my whole life trying to figure out who are the real owners. And basically, from what experience I've had, if you know their name, they're not one of the important owners. Do you know what I mean? It's intergenerational pools of capital. Now, here's what's interesting.
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One of the most powerful pools of intergenerational capital that I've ever dealt with is the Harvard Endowment. And if you look at the squabble going on over who controls the Harvard Endowment right now, it's a very interesting squabble.
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Well, you have the Trump administration and the Department of Justice now in a lawsuit with Harvard over who has what powers over Harvard's policies. But I think the big fight is not the, you know, an asymmetrical warfare. The fight is never what the fight's really about. The real fight is about who controls the... So Harvard Corporation...
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So the question is, where's all this money going? And one of the things I've looked at is the underground base and city infrastructure and transportation system that's been built.
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The university is only a portion of the Harvard Corporation. The Harvard Corporation runs the university and it runs the endowment. And the Harvard Corporation, in my experience, is one of the most important investment syndicates in the world. And because they have a tax exemption, they don't have to pay taxes.
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So look at what they did to the Canadian truckers. We don't like what you're doing. We cut off your money and we cut off your friend's money. And if people help you, we cut off their money, too. So I've had I've known so many different people around the country who've been debanked.
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They spin off, I think the last time I looked, I don't know what it is currently, but they spin off about 4% a year.
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for the university which is a lot cheaper than paying taxes and it's a great investment because the university provides all sorts of intellectual and human capital to the investment syndicate you know so it's a very brilliant elegant model and my theory is it was the model that was really created to sort of compete with the vatican and the catholics who had 2 000 years of you know diplomatic immunity and no taxes
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Anyway, but the Harvard Corporation is run by a perpetuating board. So the board members, if a board member leaves, they pick a new board member. So it's a self-perpetuating board. And my guess is behind the scenes, if there's a fight, one of the fight is who gets on that board because then you control a $50 billion plus endowment.
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And a $50 billion plus endowment, which now has a 39% private equity portfolio. And these are, you know, I said on Money in Markets, which is our weekly show, I said the other week, you know, if this is a monopoly board, that would be Park Place. Because it's such a flagship in the world of investment. It's such a major leader.
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I don't know because that will happen at the same time something else is going to happen.
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um and these things are going to happen at the same time the thing that's going to rock the universities is if you look at how much money it cost you as a father to put put one child through college you know you're talking about enormous bills and if you look at how far the universities have gotten away from providing a great
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education it's not a good investment so when i was an investment advisor i used to work with my clients kids and we would literally do something we have a learning plan on solari now that came out of this i would literally make them price time and money for each course they took by course and i would make basically make them say look
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We just got legislation passed in Tennessee that a bank over a certain size couldn't debank someone for political or religious reasons. You know, and you're one of the things that's happened.
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what do you want to do in this life and what are the skills and tools you need to do it? And how are we going to go get those tools with the least amount of your time and the least amount of your parents' money?
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How are we going to really... And we would come up with these wild education plans where they would like, you know, go to San Francisco for this audio-video course and then they would be next year in Budapest studying at the university. You know, because you want kids to learn about the world. And you want them to be, you know, not provincial, stuck in... You want them to be educated.
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Yeah, you want them to be educated. Anyway, but we would come up with these very creative things. And what you discover is, in a world of YouTube University and access to extraordinary, you know, resources all around the world to get a great education, the universities in the United States have gotten unbelievably bloated and unbelievably off track.
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Right. And they're a terrible, if you're a loving parent, they're a terrible investment. You love your children, you want your children to be successful. If I want my child to be successful in the world we're going into, you know, whether it turns into a control grid or the control grid, as I believe, will fail. You know, you want them to have an outstanding education.
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And I will tell you bluntly, the reason the unipolar model failed is because we don't have a culture that can field and manage unipolar.
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We don't have the human capital, but we're teaching our human capital to adopt a culture that cannot succeed. Exactly right. Right.
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Not that I know of, but I haven't looked. I've been working with the states because ultimately the one power currently under the Constitution in the United States that can stop this, the powers not delegated to the federal government by the states are reserved to the states. In other words, the states are technically more powerful than the federal government.
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You need Christianity.
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Right. If you're going to be part of a project that is longer than a lifetime, then you have to understand that this is about, you know, at the root, this is about your immortal soul and your soul is immortal. Right. And that triggers a very different way of looking at the world and a very different way of thinking.
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And then you have to be able to collaborate across time and space in very powerful ways. That takes trust and faith. You have to be agreement capable.
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and you can't run a unipolar model let alone a successful multipolar model unless you're agreement capable so this is lavrov's term and this is what the russians understood and this is why they whooped our ass in ukraine they are agreement capable and we are not
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It's too corrupt.
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Maybe. Yeah. In part. Yeah. So if you want to move people to a much lower economic footprint, let alone do it on a shocking basis, having complete control is obviously very convenient.
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Depends on how they do that. If you bring out breakthrough energy, you can soften the blow. There are many things you can do to soften the blow. It doesn't have to be like Russia in 90 and 91. That's exactly what I was thinking. It doesn't have to be. Can they do it that way? Yes. So it comes down to who governs and do they want to do it. You know, one of my favorite lines is from Tina Turner.
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And under the Constitution, they have the power to override the federal government on many different issues, including health care. And so one of the tensions we see in America is more and more there is a debate between the feds and the states about who has what power. So we've seen a lot of the conservative AGs and treasurers pushing back in a wonderful way, in a marvelous way.
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She says, we can do this nice or rough. Yeah.
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yeah and we could do it nice and we can do it rough there are ways of doing the control grid nice and we can do it rough and what are they planning i don't know to a certain extent remember the way in my experience the way they govern is they have targets and goals and then you know you sort of make it up as you go and sometimes it works and say it's very fluid so i wonder if the ai if the data center boom which really is the only sort of crackling sparkling piece of the real estate
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Just call them control grids.
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I mean, look, I'm- They're control nodes.
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I don't know if it was just an article in Bloomberg that Texas needs 30 new nuclear plants and the Chinese are building enormous numbers of nuclear plants.
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Well, here's the thing. How do you govern and manage nuclear plants with leadership that's not agreement capable?
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Well, one of the things you can do about energy is depopulate.
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They're just looking at hard statistics. They are.
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So, there's another thing that I don't understand very well. I've just listened to people. But if you listen to Sean Parker saying, I'm going to live to 145, or there's an interview where the president's son-in-law says, you know, we're going to be the last generation to die or the first generation to live forever.
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So you clearly have a group of people biohacking who think they can engage in massive longevity.
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Right. But what I'm saying is if you truly believe you can do that and you're not going to allow the general population to do it for environmental reasons, then you would be for depopulation. Of course.
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i have no idea i don't either i don't really care in other words there's a whole set of scenarios i don't care about i'm interested in freedom and i believe that the only way we can be free is through a culture that embraces the divine and builds true wealth enduring wealth and and living wealth not just financial wealth what is true wealth True wealth.
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Well, you know, because I would say you're truly, truly wealthy.
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Right.
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Well, it's an integration of living equity with financial equity. And what I learned being a financial advisor is that everyone had been taught to build financial equity and they couldn't integrate it with living equity. So you'd work with somebody who's worth millions of dollars who said they couldn't afford organic food. I was like, are you crazy?
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You know, the number one thing that causes a diminution of family wealth is health problems and, you know, health care fraud and health care bankruptcies.
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It's like, you know, please take a million dollars out of your bank account and start investing in really building, you know, doing everything you and your family need to be really healthy, you know, to have perfect water, to have great food, etc.,
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The challenge they have is this. And this was said to me by a senator in northern Ohio. Northern Ohio has one of the best groups of sort of freedom-fighting legislators in the country. And as you probably know, because you know Montana, it's very beautiful. You're talking about Montana?
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The other thing I discovered was, you know, everybody was trying to put their money in the national security state instead of helping their kids buy homes and integrating with, you know, building the living equity. So my mother's family were Quakers and you didn't even think about buying stock until you sent all your kids to the best Quaker schools. You know, that was like, that was first.
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Who's – so can I – there are two stories I'm dying to tell you.
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Okay. During the litigation – You know, you get in the situation where... What litigation? So I litigated with the Department of Justice for 11 years. Actually, some of that was fisticuffing with the tax guys. But anyway, so I had this sort of enemy of the state process. I had 18 audits and investigations, 12 tracks of litigation, a smear campaign, and physical harassment.
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They didn't like the idea that I would try and stop the mortgage bubble. They really wanted to have a mortgage bubble. And we were doing things to bring disclosure. It's called place-based financials. I really believed that if local communities could see how all the money worked in their neighborhood, that we could change things.
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So, for example, I would constantly, when I was at the Department of Housing and Urban Development, I would find neighborhoods where we were spending $250,000 per unit to build public housing, and $50,000 would buy and rehab a defaulted, a foreclosed property in the FHA inventory.
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and so literally if you could just within a four or ten block area you know take that 250 000 and and and spend it in the way that was the most efficient in that place you could get four or five homes for the price of one and it was really amazing when i took those numbers we did all sorts of due diligence this is when i was a contractor um to the woman who worked for the guy who ran the 250 000 program
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And I showed it to her and I said, look, we could, you know, New Orleans, Chicago, LA, we could get four or five homes for the price of one. And she turned bright red and she said, but how would we generate fees for our friends?
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Right.
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so so if you look at place-based financial statements there's extraordinary opportunity to just re-engineer what's already there yeah of course without taking money from anybody else and and making it so i really thought if you if you create so we created a software tool called community wizard that would allow everybody on the internet to just come and download the data and start looking at how the money worked in their places in way that you could see real opportunities okay so let me tell you two stories
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But it's right next to Montana. So one of the Idaho senators said to me, he said, my problem, every time I fight to implement the Constitution, he said, what I learn is every year we send a dollar to Washington, and every year Washington sends back a dollar and 19 cents. And when I say I want to implement the Constitution, my constituents say to me, I'd rather have the 19 cents.
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The litigation starts and literally you go from being very wealthy and very trusted and very respected to being an enemy of the state. No one will talk to you, nobody will answer your phone. And suddenly all your income stops, all your income stops, your credit stops, you're just frozen.
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Yeah, yeah, so anyway, so you have the assets that you have. Luckily, they never turned off my bank account, so I was lucky that way. But one of the things that happened was they started, I'd had a farm in New Hampshire and I sold my share to my uncle, and a wonderful and very wealthy uncle who was like the patriarch.
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And he bought my, and I warned him, if you buy this, they may come after you too. And he was a very stand-up guy, very fearless. And he said, you know, I'll deal with that. So sure enough, I sell him the farmland. They call him and they say, you know, your niece is a criminal and you shouldn't be doing this, blah, blah, blah, blah. And they said, we want the financial records from the farm.
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We want all the financial records of the farm. And he said, well, send me a letter so I can give it to my lawyer and I'm happy to send them to you. So they, you know, and this is the summer farm where all the family goes. Anyway, so instead of sending him a letter, they show up at his house in Portsmouth, New Hampshire at 9 p.m. at night, three FBI guys and a HUD IG guy with a subpoena. Yeah.
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And it was designed to scare him. So the family had a big powwow. Should they drop me? Because they don't want to be targeted. And he said, well, you know, she always helped us. So it turned out, I counted it up. At that point, I had lent or given to family and friends $250,000. Just crazy.
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Right. Some of us are lucky, some not.
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Right. So he said, she helped everyone, so I'm going to help her. And it took 11 years, but at the very, no, it was 2006, so that was about nine years. At the end of the process, when I won the litigation, we got money coming in. I sat down to either repay everybody who loaned me or gifted me money, or almost everybody, some had just gifted me.
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And I counted it up, and what I realized is I had come into the litigation having loaned a quarter of a million, and then over the next nine years, exactly a quarter of a million had come back. And it wasn't tit for tat. I mean, it was different people, different things. You know, some had got and said, well, I guess she needs it back and repaid it.
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I think if you're worried about a near extinction event.
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Or some had just gifted it because they knew I'd gifted. And literally, I put a quarter of a million out and a quarter of a million came back. And Tucker, if it wasn't for that money, I wouldn't be here. I would never have made it through. And it was because it was in the people bank and they couldn't shut the people bank off.
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you know they could they could do all sorts of things to shut off all sorts of resources and income but if it's in the people bank and the people you love and trust you know it comes back so when i love that yeah it's great so when i finished when i finished the litigation i'd had a 401k that i'd had to bust it had 500 000 in it i paid 225 000 in fines and taxes to get it out
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So what we've been watching literally since World War II is the federal government and a very, you know, largesse, both monetary and fiscal policy, buying people out of the Constitution and buying the whole federal. I mean, the federal government is right now operating so far outside the law. You know how unbelievable it is. So that's the challenge before us. If we want to be free...
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Well, I don't think they thought, they put my 401k under audit so I couldn't use it to finance the business. It was dirty tricks. Anyway, so I take the money out. So my accountant, when we get the settlement money, she said, let's fund up the 401k. I said, no, I'm never going into business with the U.S. government again. No way. I don't want any of those vehicles. I'm out.
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And I said, but the other thing is I'm taking that $500,000 and I'm bonusing it out on the people bank. And I'm going to start a new business and I think that business will be successful. So I don't need that $500,000. It'd be nice, but I don't need it. But I need to get that money back, that people bank, because that is the only bank in this world I trust. And so, you know.
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Well, here's the question. And I used to always say this with my clients. Who's going to be there for you? Right? Who's going to be there for you? That's the people bank. And you want to invest in the people bank. Now, it may not be money. It may be time. It may be help. It may be... There's a wonderful book called Family Wealth by a guy named James Hughes.
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I don't know if you've ever heard of it or seen it. And basically what he does, my great uncle didn't like the book so much. He said, you're trying to turn our family into a corporation. I said, no, I'm not. But it basically teaches a family how to conspire together. Basically have a dinner once a month or once a whatever and talk about what's in your heart to do.
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You know, this person wants to do this. This person wants to do this. Some things make money. Some things don't. But help each other be successful at whatever your passion is. And work as a family. You know, I always, at Solari, we say, don't worry about if there is a conspiracy. If you're not in one, you need to start one.
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And a great family should be a conspiracy where you're trying to help each other succeed.
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Yeah.
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Well, but if we're going to build a successful culture, that culture has to be good at building wealth, living wealth and financial wealth, both on an integrated basis. So if you come to Soleri, we have a curriculum called Building Wealth, and it has six pillars. And we organize all of our content into and around building wealth.
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And because it's part of what you have to build to build a culture that can really be part of real solutions. So the first pillar is free and inspired life. And so, you know, our theory is you have a goal, you have a relationship with the creator and you decide, you know, what's your free and inspired life? Everybody's unique. And in a decentralized world, everybody is unique.
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There's no formula, so to speak. The second one is navigation tools, and that's where people get burned. So we say in navigation tools, there's an official reality and then there's reality, and you need to know both. And reality is for the management of your time and money, and the official reality is for the cocktail party. And you need to not get those.
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Don't use the official reality to manage your time and money, because then you're going to get... I mean, I clean so many people up from financial fraud and healthcare fraud because they believe the official reality. So you can't do that. The third is risk management, because in this kind of dangerous environment, everything's about keeping your risk down. Exactly.
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And that's more important than making money. It's more important to lower risk than make money. So in a well-governed world, we'd all be focused on outside. On growth, but now we're just- We've got to be focused on risk.
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Right.
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And then the fourth is living equity, and that's all living things. That's people, that's family, that's culture, that's education, you know, all the things that go into that. And then financial equity, all the things you know. And then the last one is to me the most important. It's called Turtle Forth. So did you get the hat, the Turtle Forth hat? I did, yeah.
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You know, we're going to have to decide we're not going to let ourselves be, you know, it's like being sort of walked into the slaughterhouse. We're not going to walk into the slaughterhouse.
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Okay, Turtle Forth is about never quitting. You must never, ever quit. And the whole goal of the people who are trying to centralize is to get you to think it's hopeless. And John Rappaport used to always say, hopelessness is an op and it's planet wide.
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So you have to keep a state of amusement. I mean, it's... I really, you know, one of the most breakthrough moments for me in the last 20 years was when I realized that it was okay to be happy no matter what was going on. And sometimes you can't be, it's so horrible what's going on. But I'll tell you exactly when it happened.
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I had a wonderful church where I studied spiritual warfare for two and a half years at the beginning of the litigation. And it was that training that saved my life. And but I was at a sermon and there was a co-pastor who had very long fingernails and she was very angry and she was shaking her hands with her long fingernails.
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And, you know, sometimes when you're in a big church and they point right at you and she said, she said, she said, the devil can have my house and the devil can have my car, but the devil cannot have my joy. And it was like I exploded in my head and I said, that's it.
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Right. And sometimes it's hard. Did you ever see The NeverEnding Story, the movie, The NeverEnding Story? Read the book. So, it's a wonderful child's story where the child is the protagonist and he's fighting a force in the universe called the nothing. And the nothing is running around the universe sucking meaning out of everything. And it's hard when you're dealing.
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And if you look at this digital control, it comes with an energy that's very demonic and sucking meaning out of everything. And they're very good. They're masterful at turning allies against each other. The divide and conquer thing is really heartbreaking.
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I see it.
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And so you're up against the nothing. And so sometimes we'll come together in a team meeting and somebody will say, I've lost my state of amusement. And then the team's job is to help them to get it back.
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I've lost my state of amusement. And it happens. I can't, you know,
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You're always going to be shocked by it.
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scary in an insidious way about being lulled into slavery right and the thing to understand about the lulling is the lulling the marketing plan works one person at a time in other words you know you i buy with money your friend i buy by knocking them off for the other you know your other friend i i get a control file on
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You're always going to be shocked by it. I'll tell you why you're going to be shocked by it. If you understand love, you can't fathom why anyone would would reject that yes and embrace evil because it's so stupid it's so wasteful it's so un as my mother used to say it's so unnecessary you know it's just like it's um you just can't fathom why anybody would do it
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You know, I watch the folks who are in the financial system, who are deeply corrupt and just constantly take and take and take, you know, the plunder team. And I think, how is that... To me, what they're doing is not fun. It's not fun. It's not fun. So I will tell you, my gift, everybody has a gift. My gift was an investment bank. I was absolutely fantastic. I was just really, really good at it.
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And the heartbreak for me was when I had to leave the establishment, I lost the ability. It's like a painter and you lose your ability to paint. You can't get access to colors anymore. So, but I loved it. And when you do it in the right way, two plus two equals 20. And it's so exciting. It's the best feeling in the world. It's like... Oh, I've lived it.
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Yeah. So when Van Gogh, it's my theory when Van Gogh finished a painting that 20... pow, it's like, wow, you know, it's great. And, and you watch these guys do the fraud and destroy, you know, all the mortgage fraud and it destroys neighborhoods and it destroys family. And it's just, it's just, it's like a lose, lose, lose. And you think that's no fun.
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And that's a tell. Right, that's a tell. And I will tell you the debt, is a symptom, it's not the problem.
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The debt.
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The debt is a simple, yeah, when there was 21 trillion missing as of 2015, when we published that study in 2017, there was 21 trillion of debt. Now, first of all, remember, the Treasury can just issue currency. They don't need debt to create the currency. And in fact, I would say historically, the greatest currencies are fiat currencies that are not debt-based. So our problem is the debt-basing.
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But let's just grossly oversimplify and talk about what that means with the $21 trillion. So the Treasury sells Treasury bonds to our pension funds, moves $21 trillion into the bank accounts at the New York Fed member banks for the Treasury. They're the depository banks. And then the 21 trillion disappears out of the back door.
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So it's just a straw that's sucking our pension fund money into, I call it the breakaway civilization. And meantime, we as taxpayers are now obligated to pay the debt into that we owe our pension funds. And the money is gone.
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So there are thousands of different ways of nudging, buying carrots and sticks to get everybody into the control, into the trap. And what is so insidious about this is much of the marketing plan is invisible. And it really is crafted one by one.
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Breakaway civilization was a term made famous by Richard Dolan, and it simply described a decision to create a parallel system. You know, first it started with the black budget, but it grew, you know, call it the national security state. but to build a civilization that literally was separate and not subject to the laws of the existing ones.
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So if I'm running a company and I want to bring up new systems, I'll bring up the new systems while I'm running the old and I'll run them in parallel and I'll move things over slowly and then at some point I bring the current thing down. And to me, that's what the financial coup was. You're moving the money out of one system and putting it in another.
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So in theory, 21 trillion is enough at a 5% interest rate to basically finance a private government, if you will, right? I'm not saying that's what happened, but in theory.
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So when I was at HUD in 1989, it was late 89 or early 90, I was in a meeting with the secretary and we had brought all the regional administrators in for a meeting with the secretary. And he was very upset because the regional administrator from California had implemented something in response to a court decision.
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There was a court case in the Court of Appeals, and they decided, okay, you got to go to the right. And so he had implemented that. And the secretary was having literally like a manic episode, screaming, a huge temper tantrum, screaming at him. And finally, this guy said, but Mr. Secretary, it's the law. And he just exploded with fury. And he said, the law, the law, I don't have to obey the law.
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I report to a higher moral authority. And just at that moment, it was like, remember the scene in Eyes Wide Shut when you first walk in on the Secret Society doing their occult ritual? You know, you had this image of, oh, you know, he literally... He doesn't have to obey the laws of the United States. He's operating under a different governance structure. People feel that way. Right.
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There's a very famous story of Lincoln when he's talking about what he wants to do to implement the Reconstruction policies. And he tells a story about a young child saying, you know, if I throw the fish back, dad will get mad at me. But if it slips from my hand accidentally and you grab it, then dad won't be mad at me. And the implication of the story is that Lincoln has a dad that he can't buck.
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And, you know, we're back to the question, who's dad? It's the same question as who's Mr. Global.
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Here's my guess. So I once did a two-hour interview on the Salary Report on who is Mr. Global where we go through all the different theories. So I think literally you have intergenerational pools of capital which meet and work by consensus. You know, it's a committee system and they do have a set of rules. And what I don't understand, I think their challenge is they're risk managers.
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And they're constantly pulling out a lot of money, and they always need to get that dividend. And the question is, why do they need the dividend? Where's the money going? Because they're constantly running the financial system to extract extra money. There's always disappearing money, and the question is, why and where's it going?
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I think it's going to infrastructure projects. I think it's going to big investments like building the control grid is a big one. And one of my questions on the financial coup is, are they literally setting up an endowment so they can run the world on a global governance that's a dictatorship with an endowment? So it's a bigger endowment than anybody else's.
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If you look at our current model, it is not being run on an economic basis, and it's getting much worse, and it's getting worse steadily. So let me give you an example. Our military budget this year is approximately $850 billion, and the president wants to take it, or the secretary of defense is saying we've got to take it to a trillion. Our HHS budget is $1.8 trillion.
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So I don't know how many years. They're clearly pushing to have this done by 2030. And, you know, what I do have to say is if you look at what it takes to stop it, I believe they're going to fail. Now, what I don't underestimate is how much damage they could do. And, you know, the failure may not come in time to save America.
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Dr. Skidmore just did an analysis. If we went back to 2010 levels of disability, we would lower that by half a trillion dollars.
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Half a trillion. So America is, I call it the great poisoning. We've poisoned ourselves, and it's blowing the budget. And it's not just blowing the budget of the federal government. If you look at family budgets, it's blowing their budgets. You know, poisoned people are not productive, and their health care costs can be very expensive.
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And you see that at the federal level, and you see that at the state level, the local level, and the family level. That's got to be dealt with. But, you know, if you look at the budget right now, its expenses are skyrocketing. And it's skyrocketing because the fundamental model of what we do and how we do it, it helps to centralize, but it's not economic. And so you got to change that.
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Right. So now I get to tell you my last story. Okay.
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Okay, this is called The Red Button Story. And if you put my name in on the internet, you'll get, you know, a copy of this story. Because it happened to me in 2000. I was asked by a healthcare practitioner to give a presentation called How the Money Works on Organized Crime. And it later became a very famous article called Narco Dollars for Beginners.
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and it was meant to be a light funny description of the intersection of organized crime flows with washington and wall street so my book i have an online book called dylan reed in the aristocracy of stock profits that is a case study that teaches people it's designed to be like a business school's case study that shows you that intersection between illegal cash flows and wall street and washington
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anyway so i'm in the middle of the speech and i'm describing the congressional testimony on the dark alliance allegations that happened in 1998 and at the time i was helping a reporter um do research And she was covering the hearings. And a spokesperson for the Department of Justice told her, so I'm in the middle of the speech, and there are about 100 people.
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And the conference where I'm speaking is a conference that happens once a year by this group. And the focus is on how we evolve our society spiritually. So this is a very spiritually committed group of people who want to evolve our society spiritually. Okay, so I'm describing the fact that a spokesperson for the Department of Justice told this reporter I was helping that the U.S.
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economy launders $500 billion to a trillion dollars a year of all illegal money. So that's narcotics trafficking, that's financial fraud, that's, you know, everything, it's human trafficking. And the number is now much, much bigger. But they were describing the fact that the U.S. economy and financial system is the leader globally in laundering dirty money.
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So I said to this wonderful group of spiritually evolved people, what would happen if we stopped being...
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the global leader in money laundering and we had a little conversation they said well you know the money would leave the new york stock exchange and go to singapore or zurich or london um and and we'd have we might have trouble financing the government deficit because we you know now we borrow over half of the money currently um and and so we we you know our taxes might go up or our government checks might stop
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So I said, okay, let's pretend there's a big red button up here on the lectern. And if you push that button, you can stop all hard narcotics trafficking in your town, your county, your state tomorrow. Thus offending the people who control $500 billion to $20 billion a year of all dirty money in the accumulated capital thereon. Who here will push the button?
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And out of 100 people dedicated to evolving our society spiritually, guess how many would push the button? I don't know. One, the other 99 would not push the button.
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Yeah, it would. So wait. So I said to them, I said, why would you not push the button? So we had a little conversation. They said, we don't want our taxes to go up. We don't want our government checks to stop. And we don't want our 401ks and IRAs to go down. So if I had voted, there would have been two pushing the red button.
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uh i the central bankers yes right so we have a democratic republic or we have a republic and use this democratic process what happened in 1913 is the bankers took control of monetary policy what they're trying to do now is take control of fiscal policy once they get control of fiscal policy it's going to be much harder to reverse it can you um i'm going to ask a series of really dumb questions okay i hope you'll indulge me what's the difference
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So what I discovered that day, the problem was that not that they wouldn't push the red button, but they wouldn't go into the invention room and have an honest conversation about what the real problem was. and how I call it how we turn the red button green, how we make money pushing the red button, because then we can push the red button.
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And you have to push the red button because you cannot become wealthy liquidating your children. You cannot become wealthy by poisoning your children and your people. And yet that's what we've been doing in America for decades now. And now here's the political problem. if you're the new president of the united states and you walk into the oval office
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Your political guy is going to say to you, Mr. President, the American people just spent billions getting you voted in as president. And now they want payback. They want their government contract. They want their privatization. They want the COLA increase on Social Security. They want a community block development grant.
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And you're going to turn to your secretary of treasury and he says, well, you better be nice to the people who control $500 billion to $1 trillion. and the accumulated capital thereon. Of course, the number's much bigger now. Now, how are you gonna press the red button? You can't.
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And if you look at the history of politics in America, the history is everybody wants their check and they want the story of I am good. I'm a good Christian.
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i'm not doing any of this corrupt organized crime stuff you know i'm just voting you know so so i say it this way when goldwater the end of world war ii george keenan said we got six percent of the people and fifty percent of the resources and we're gonna have to be tough if we keep this going so goldwater ran for president he said we're gonna have to drop a lot of
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And the American people said, oh, no, we don't want to do that. We're good Christians. So Jimmy Carter came along and he shivered in front of the fireplace. And Americans said, oh, no, we don't want to do that. We don't want to cut back. And so the Bushes came along and said, you know something? You all are good Christians. Here's your check. Don't ask questions. And that's where we've been.
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Catherine Fitts: Bankers vs. the West, Secret Underground Bases, and the Oncoming Extinction Event
Everybody wants the story of I am good. And the problem, you can push the red button, you can turn it green, but it has to be done one neighborhood at a time. You need to take all the money in a place and instead of spending the government money to centralize control and on the control grid, you need to re-engineer it to build real wealth. And you've got to decentralize the economic power.
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Catherine Fitts: Bankers vs. the West, Secret Underground Bases, and the Oncoming Extinction Event
If you centralize and you create lots of billionaires, you're going to shrink the pie. And that's what we've been doing. And we've been making money from poisoning each other.
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Catherine Fitts: Bankers vs. the West, Secret Underground Bases, and the Oncoming Extinction Event
So we publish the Solari report. It's Solari.com, S-O-L-A-R-I.com. And we have a subscription service. And we have a lot of free, you know, so if you want to get to know us, you can come in and you can learn tremendous amounts from the free stuff. We'd love to have you as a subscriber. And we have a great group of subscribers.
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Catherine Fitts: Bankers vs. the West, Secret Underground Bases, and the Oncoming Extinction Event
What happened to me was I fell into this because I had terrible, terrible experiences with the corporate media. And so I just started doing shows and giving out my email and saying, if you have a question, ask me. And over many years, the questions would come in and we'd publish the answers and, you know, it'd go on and on and went on for free for a long time.
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And then finally, I got so many questions that I would just, you know, I finally said I need to hire people. But we have this global network of subscribers and audience who get on the site, share comments. They're brilliant. And we help each other figure things out. And we've literally become an intelligence network. And it's all people who want to be free.
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Catherine Fitts: Bankers vs. the West, Secret Underground Bases, and the Oncoming Extinction Event
And they all understand one can't be free unless we're all free. This is an all or nothing thing. They either get the control grid or we're free. And the only way we're going to be free is if everybody's free. It's an all or nothing deal. And there are a lot of people now who understand this and are gathering. And, you know, so I have many subscribers. I just know from what they say.
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I have many subscribers who are your subscribers because they feel and I feel you're on the same journey.
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Taxation without representation.
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Well, thank you. I love your work. So thank you. I've been a subscriber from the very beginning.
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Catherine Fitts: Bankers vs. the West, Secret Underground Bases, and the Oncoming Extinction Event
Okay, monetary policy is I control the process by which currency is issued, including through credit. So I generally govern and control credit issuance.
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Catherine Fitts: Bankers vs. the West, Secret Underground Bases, and the Oncoming Extinction Event
And from that, the currency, the creation and management of the currency. Fiscal policy is when I control the taxes and the borrowing of the U.S. government. Now, because the central bank basically operates the borrowing, you know, it's the borrowing shared. But this comes down as the, you know, this is the Boston Tea Party moment. Can they tax without representation?
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Catherine Fitts: Bankers vs. the West, Secret Underground Bases, and the Oncoming Extinction Event
So I'll give you a little story. During the Biden administration, Biden nominated somebody for control of currency who was ultimately not approved. The Republicans in the Senate killed the nomination.
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Catherine Fitts: Bankers vs. the West, Secret Underground Bases, and the Oncoming Extinction Event
before she was nominated three weeks before she wrote an article in the vanderbilt law review that said the great thing about central bank digital currency in other words an all digital currency system is you have the perfect tool to deal with inflation if inflation gets out of hand you just freeze everybody's bank accounts nice right right right you know so it's it's um so
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Catherine Fitts: Bankers vs. the West, Secret Underground Bases, and the Oncoming Extinction Event
and inflation is a creation of mantra it's the effect of monetary policy it's like something that somebody did to you well there are two things that cause inflation so one is monetary policy uh managing monetary policy in a way that creates in monetary inflation but you also have and we're going through it now what i call deglobalization where you have real increases in the cost of goods
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Catherine Fitts: Bankers vs. the West, Secret Underground Bases, and the Oncoming Extinction Event
So my cost of goods are going up, and it's not because they're issuing too much currency relative to growth. It's because we are reversing globalization. Globalization created a whole lot of lower costs for a variety of reasons.
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Right. And it's not just higher prices. It's, you know, some products, a lot of products stop being economic and just go away. So, you know, when you hiccup supply chains, especially if you do it by shock doctor or shock and all, which is what we're watching now. You know, it wrecks havoc. So think of it like a flotilla of ships that need to turn.
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If the aircraft carrier doesn't let everybody know they're turning, then the boats aren't ready to turn and you have boats smashing into each other.
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You sink a lot of ships.
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Catherine Fitts: Bankers vs. the West, Secret Underground Bases, and the Oncoming Extinction Event
um so leaving aside whether that was wise or not that's what we're doing right um so you get inflation out of that of course you're absolutely right if oil prices go up you get inflation right and that de-globalization started in the financial crisis so you know so it's accelerating now but it's not that we just started it how did it start during in 2008 yes yes because why
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Catherine Fitts: Bankers vs. the West, Secret Underground Bases, and the Oncoming Extinction Event
Because for several reasons, but one is we were trying to exercise more and more control through the dollar system. And we've always exercised a lot of power and control and extracted a subsidy from the dollar system. But you have more and more people trying to get out of the system. And the financial crisis, first the Asian crisis in 97 was a real wake up to Asia.
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You know, you need to create more resiliency. But more and more things happened. And then in 2008, it started to accelerate with the creation of the, you know, as the BRICS started to organize and work to sort of pull out of the... So the idea was...
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Catherine Fitts: Bankers vs. the West, Secret Underground Bases, and the Oncoming Extinction Event
The people running the dollar system want a unipolar model. The U.S. wants a unipolar model, and we don't want to be part of a unipolar model because we don't want, if you look at the level of subsidy they're extracting, we don't want that level of subsidy extracted. And if you look at some of the rules and regulations, we don't want to be a part of it.
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So we in India, I don't know if you ever saw one of the greatest
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explanations of globalization ever given Sir James Goldsmith came to the United States in 1994 and he did an interview with Charlie Rose and he described why we should never approve the Uruguay round of GATT and Institute the WTO and he to this day he nailed nailed it perfectly just summarize his argument what would it be he said we are going to hollow out the middle class in the West
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Catherine Fitts: Bankers vs. the West, Secret Underground Bases, and the Oncoming Extinction Event
Correct.
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And we are going to devastate our culture.
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Yes, our culture. We're going to devastate our culture and we're going to devastate the quality of the food supply.
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Yes. So now those are my words of way of saying it. You should watch it. And I think to this day, I think it's the best description. And if you read my online book and you listen to Sir James Goldsmith, What they both described is the fact we knew. We knew what we were, in other words, the leadership knew that this would destroy and devastate the West.
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Catherine Fitts: Bankers vs. the West, Secret Underground Bases, and the Oncoming Extinction Event
It's absolutely happening. And what's important to understand, it's been happening for a long time. In other words, this is like an invisible corral that they've been building around you for a long, long time. How do a few sneak up on the many? Well, you have to do it very quietly and visibly before you throw the trap.
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Catherine Fitts: Bankers vs. the West, Secret Underground Bases, and the Oncoming Extinction Event
That's the $64,000 question. Well, they hate the West. Defenders of the West.
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Catherine Fitts: Bankers vs. the West, Secret Underground Bases, and the Oncoming Extinction Event
I think one of the reasons they did it is I think they wanted to create the capacity and centralize the capital they needed to go into space. And I think they knew that they would need every hundred or so years the central bankers do a reset. And I think they knew they were coming into a reset and and they felt with this technology that they, you know, if they didn't globalize, someone else would.