Carolyn Wiger
Appearances
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
The following podcast is a dear media production. I want to fucking have a manager. I don't trust anyone again.
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
But it's like, well, that would explain things. And that would know like, girl, I'm not autistic. Yeah. I just don't give a shit. And I talk close sometimes because I want to see if I can freak you out. It's not. It's truly not like people think that, again, that I don't have confidence that I'm autistic. I'm not fucking autistic. I'm weird. OK, but it does creep people out.
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
So on Survivor, yes, I was that person like at first in my faces and my noises and my no, I'm just myself and I don't really care.
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
Except for yours. But like, no, thank you. That's how I am. And I am. I'm saying no to most.
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
I'm a licensed drug and alcohol counselor and a life coach. But here's the fucking truth. First of all, we all know this and I don't want to sound like... No, please. A drug counselor, but I am. Wait, what were you addicted to? Everything I could. They used to say like, if you could smoke shit, you would. So like, girl. I love to smoke anything. Mainly cocaine and alcohol. So I would like.
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
The classic. Yeah. Classic. So alcohol is a fucking depressant. We know this. Yeah. So it's like, I always think of this. Okay. Okay. I'm in college or I'm whatever. Cause I thought that everybody drank too much. Like when you're young and it's like, no, they don't. Cause you've been sober since like your 20s. 22. I had lived the life of a fucking person by that. Like, I was doing that shit.
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
I had my fake ID. I was going to bars. I was literally a stripper when I was 16. Oh, my God. I didn't know. I watched the true Hollywood. And this is probably. How old are you again? I can't say.
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
You look like you're 20. So, girl. Thank you. I don't know if you've heard of, you've heard of E! True Hollywood stories. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So Jenna Jameson. Okay, yes. She had an E! True Hollywood story. And she became a stripper when she was like 16. She ripped her braces off. Fuck yeah. And so I was like, I want that.
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
And you're going to want to be. And we do. And we did. And so that's what I did. I was like, I'm not kidding you. I watched I watched the E! Drew Hollywood story. I didn't get them off because like I'm not.
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
I was too orange and that's that fucking podcast fault. No, they loved you.
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
I am very proud of the way I looked, but I do blame that on I went, I spray tanned, I didn't get to shower for my second round.
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
And it was too dark and I looked like...
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
And that's what I'm saying. I don't get paid for this. Did you really say no to me?
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
I can't even believe this to be true. No, I know. It's true.
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
think so you hold on my brain yeah i wouldn't gossip with boston rob if i wasn't two glasses of wine deep i don't fucking believe and you know what i will okay here's i would never have where were we at before that so yeah i tried to rip my braces off i did that i lived the life of like do you know what i'm saying so by the time i was 22 it isn't like the i'm looking forward to turning 21 and getting and going to the bar i already lived it i was in the gutter
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
So, yeah, I didn't care anymore. So, OK, but if I can't fucking have fun sober, there's no fucking point in being sober. One hundred percent. I had a very like transitional period of like, I don't know who the fuck I am. I cut my hair off. I dyed my hair dark. I only wore black and white and I thought I needed to be which fuck me. But I got butterflies.
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
So I'm like, I only wear black and white and I didn't know who I was. And so I associated like, because I've always been like the loud one. I've always been the weird one. I've always been like, be quiet and blah, blah, blah. And it was almost like I then started associating that with like drug use and alcohol use. Yes.
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
I felt like I needed to like be a whole different person because that means that I'm like, I have to change everything about myself. And so I thought I had to change my personality, too, because I blamed my personality on like drugs and alcohol. Does that make sense? Yes. OK, so I get sober and I'm like, I got to cut my hair. I got to dye it dark. I got to be professional.
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
But only half my head. And I dyed it blue. But it was it was a period. But only half back when that was like a fucking thing. You've done it all. And I love that. It's fun. You got to try it. Yeah. So I was like, OK, I'm going to discover myself. I learned that. Like, first of all, I did. I did a lot of
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
fucking work because we have to so I dug and I did I dug deep and I fucking journaled and I went to therapy and I did treatment and I really looked at everything I hated about myself and I asked myself why do I hate that why and I did I learned that I never would have thought anything was wrong with me unless people but people pointed out people are pointing out this this because we wouldn't when we're growing up I wouldn't know that I fucking talk like a boy or crackle my like because people would tease my voice I or my faces I
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
I didn't know that I looked like I had a stroke until people... You don't. I don't, but people will say that. Yeah.
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
Or she's autistic or something's wrong with her.
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
I really would. And they'd be like, are you recording?
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
Weaker. OK, well. I hate good. I don't. You have like a cute one. So it's like, seriously, I don't. No, I love everything you stand for. But you know what I'm saying? And tell me about Red Bull and it's not cute.
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
That happens to me. Is that what it's called, cadence? Because I do that too, where I'll be like, and I've always, I crack my voice. It is, I don't have a soothing, cute voice. And I know that. And I say that to my, ugh.
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
But people do. They think they'll, you're something. You have. Yeah. I get it all the time. Like, here's my daughter. She's autistic. Thank you for being the voice. That's why I say I fucking wish at this point, diagnose me so I can be the voice. But I like, I don't want to like misdive. I'm not ashamed or embarrassed. Like, diagnose me. Anyway, I get it all the time. So I did all the work.
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
I did all that. And I was like, fuck this. And I learned how to love myself because, again, I've always had that shit where people point. So I get really pissed off. I do when people are like, get some confidence or do. No, I fucking do. I know who I am. I just shit still hurts me. And it takes me a minute to, like, get back on course. But when it comes to the fucking fun. Yeah. Fuck that.
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
It wasn't hard at first. Yeah, I didn't go and fuck. I didn't go to like weddings and start dancing or I didn't go to if I because that's the thing, too. I had to like separate. I couldn't go to like bars and blah, blah, blah right away.
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
You got to be selfish. And I learned that. And this is the thing. And I like that's why, like, again, even on traders like. I don't give a fuck. I can remember we went down and it was before a mission and we're waiting and everyone was sitting on the couches by the pool table or whatever over there. Everyone. And then people are piling and sitting on each other's laps. I'm like, fuck that.
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
So I go and I sit all by myself over it. And Dylan's like, are you okay over that? I'm fucking fine. I was crying about something. Right.
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
I don't better for your mental health. It's better for you. Like, I don't give a fuck. Do I? Again, I hurt night, but I feel like people think that I'm way more fucking like self-conscious and that I am.
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
I am too and that probably makes it way worse.
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
So a lot of that, too, is like my crying and my over emotion because I used to hold it all in. When I got sober, I said, I will never fucking do that again. And I don't and I won't. And I think even at the ranch, I'm like, and I'll not cry as much. And I'm like, actually, I'll cry more because like, fuck you. That's my trauma talking.
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
And I'm not going to let them know I'm not holding it in, whether it's a game or not. So I learned how to have fun sober. And I did that by fucking just again. It's awkward. You think, can I get up or no?
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
right oh right now yeah yeah please am i able yeah it's one of those things and i was at a concert once probably robin thick oh love yes he's probably a pervert but yeah see oh here we go he was like you you dance to the beat of your own drum oh yeah and i was because i was dancing and i don't know how to fucking dance yeah the point is i do this thing and i told him i let the
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
She's passed away now, but she was sleeping with Lil Bow Wow. She's a lesbian.
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
And I was sober. She was fucking sober. And that's the thing we would do. She was my best. Like, we would do crazy, freaky. And people would think we were fucked up. But like, we're not. What's up, Bow Wow? So it didn't matter. We would. She did. Okay. So I would be like dancing and he's like, you dance with your own drum. And I'm like, I'm just letting the music take control of my body.
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
And I can't do that. Like I didn't just right away go into places and like it took practice. Yeah. I'm not a good dancer. And I'm even now I thought I'd be able to do some moves. It's not.
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
Yes. And so that's my point is I just slowly ease my way in. And now here's what I've realized. People will stare and people will, this is what I tell people that I even like meet with me on my sessions and shit.
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
When I go into places, because if I go in and I am all over the place, because like, girl, I don't fucking look at people because if I give myself a moment, I'm going to start like looking at you and I'm going to be like, let's say you're looking at, let's say you're like, been looking me up and down. I mean, did I wear something wrong? Or why are they looking at me? Or what did I do?
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
What do you think is going on here? I don't drink coffee. I don't. And this probably does make me more jittery and nervous, but I do. I need to stay up.
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
Yeah. So I don't fucking do that anymore. I don't look at anybody. And I walk in and I just and I tell people and it helps that I'm tall, but I walk in, I look straight ahead and because I don't want anyone to stop and talk to me. So I'm like, fuck off. But
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
I walk in straight ahead and then I don't give myself the opportunity to like create dialogue in my head of like what's going on and they don't like me. I don't fucking care. And I'm walking in. Same thing with dancing. I'm going to go out on that fucking dance floor because I like to dance. Truly. Like it is fun. Did you not learn nothing as a stripper?
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
I was awful, and I did not even know how to dance in heels, and I'd flip them off. But you have to fucking have heels on. I literally quit, though, as soon as they made me fill out a Social Security. Yeah. Because they're legit. You are actually a worker. Oh, yeah. You signed that W-2. And I'm like, I can't have my – because I had a fucking fake name, Annika McCormick. I love it. Yes, I love it.
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
No, you don't. Because you'd probably you'd have years of trauma and you probably would have become addicted to drugs. So you don't.
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
because it really and that's the type of shit that's why like people will joke or like do an only fans or do a hell no that's why i don't like do the stuff that i do anymore and i take like you know sex so seriously or i take sometimes and then i i don't fucking because that was a lot of trauma i it doesn't feel good at the end of the day i and it's crazy too because my boobs are fake and i'll always have them out but i get mad if people look i know well no i know
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
Like, no, I'm so sick of people. Wasn't he a heartthrob?
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
No, it's true. It's fucking it's fucking true. So be glad you weren't fucking hooting around, which I don't even know. I don't even know how that place is still fucking in business and they still have them.
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
And I know. And I appreciate that. So, yeah, they were looking for you. And they're like, well, girl, is she going to come?
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
I don't want to judge that all of them have trauma and are fucked up and not making their own choices. But like, yeah, for me, I'm like, get I can't. And it did fuck me up and it did make me feel like, what the hell? So my OK, where was it going with this? So, yeah, fuck, you don't want to. But again, some people can do that. And then I was not I became addicted.
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
So learning how to do this shit sober, you have the best personality. Are you like drunk or high right now? No, no. Like you in every unless you were fucking doing shit before like you and not a lot of people have that. OK, yeah. You can just fucking talk and be fun and funny. You don't. I'm shocked that you feel this way. Yeah.
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
Who was looking for me? The people with the cars. And she literally said. Oh. I called the car and canceled. I go, no, Gabby. They overheard me talking. And then they're like, Gabby's coming. And I'm like, I don't think she is. Yeah, we have a car. A car is coming. And then I'm like, oh, maybe she is. And then I just walked away. Yeah. They wanted us at everything. Yeah. Yeah.
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
When it comes to like even like going out and like I have said this so many times, it feels so good to be able to be this freaky and be sober. And people like keep questioning if I'm on drugs. Yeah. I love it. But it doesn't it didn't happen overnight. It comes with like just not giving a fuck. I'm going to go dance. Yeah.
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
I'm going to go, but I don't go and look at the reaction of other people because I know what they're probably looking like. They're probably side eyeing me.
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
And it's nothing. But again, this all takes... And it's like you teach people how to treat you and not all of them listen. But I had that awkwardness or people where I would think like, oh... And I'll tell people like, I don't give a shit if you're drinking. I don't want you sloppy. I don't want like I don't want to be around that if you're like falling on me and shit.
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
But again, I know how to excuse myself. I know when I'm but I don't. It was never fun for me. And I do. I think like growing or growing up, growing up, being a drunk, like growing up, it's like teen when I realized I had a problem.
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
Like these. I have memories like that, too, where it's like we think it's like normal or I did at least. Yeah. No, same.
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
No. Yeah. It's like, oh, we're going to go. We went through a breakup or something and let's go out and like party and celebrate. And I would be that one like puking on the floor in the bathroom stall crying, like going through a breakup, like let's go celebrate and like get over it.
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
Alcohol's a fucking depressant. I never felt better. So if you're having those feelings like like I always have said, like, what does alcohol like do for you? What does it?
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
You're funner. I don't care. Like. No, you're more fun than mature. Are you? Again, I'll get over it, but I'm shocked that you ever even had these thoughts. You don't need any fucking out. Like, are you kidding me? Like, again, unless you were drunk every day, like, but even a little bit or tipsy or whatever, you have a great personality that not. And that's why you like you stand out to me.
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
I've been when I did all my interviews, I was like, Gabby is the total package. Yeah. And I'm like, it's going to seem like I'm hitting on her. Like Robbie, I'm not. But I was, I was like, like truly.
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
No, I know. And I wasn't going to do, like, because I wasn't vibing. Like, I was sick of it. Yeah. I wasn't brave enough for going to the dinner thing after. But I got, my friend wanted to go to the experience because she'd never experienced it. Yeah. No, I love that. It was cool.
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
But we thought that there was going to be, like, some other stuff there, like press or, like, we were going to video it or, like, especially the housewives were like, where's, like, the cameras? Yeah. We were playing the game. We were like playing again, playing the game and doing the missions and doing counting and doing. Yes. And so I kept looking. How long was it? It was almost two hours.
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
Or there's the people who are like cast on the show and it's like they're just this one dimensional whatever. You're everything. Not a lot of people have that like personality, like whatever. That's not with alcohol. You don't need that shit. And are you kidding me? That's the thing, too. Throughout my journey, I had to cut a lot of people. I had to separate myself.
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
And it's like there was a lot of times of loneliness or I can't fucking do that stress of like thinking if like, well, what are they thinking? Are they going to think I'm boring? Are Are they going to fuck you? No, I'm literally like, this is me. I'm going to have fun. You don't need to worry about it. But people used to not invite me to things.
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
They would think like, well, there's going to be alcohol there. I fucking know that. I understand that. And it's just teaching people like I'm OK with it. I know that like the world didn't stop and whatever. I am able to assert my boundaries and what I'm comfortable with. But like, yeah, that's the girl. Yeah. Yeah.
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
So it hits longer. And if you don't fucking like, girl, if you're not like for me, like I'm not having just one or I'm not. So like, what the fuck is the point? Like, what is the point? Because one doesn't even do anything. But you feel like you can have fun sober, right? Or like, could you get up and start dancing? I feel like you fucking are that type. You would be dancing when no one was.
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
If that's all it is, it's like if it's even just makes you fucking feel depressed in the slightest for a sec. Yeah. Mm hmm. But like, that's it. Yeah. And you just don't need it. There are so many people who fucking need it. And I'm begging them to be drinking. Like, please loosen up. You are like, get a personality or that's not right. You.
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
Oh, my God. So for someone who's not played. Yeah, it's awesome. It's cool. You get a goodie bag. You get a hat that says traitor. Oh, my God.
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
Just you, the feelings. And you don't like the aftermath.
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
Yeah, fuck it. Fuck it. Who cares? And Boston Rob talks so much shit.
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
And I truly and I didn't again because I did judge him and all that bullshit because I do that even though I don't like to be judged and none of us do. But he's fun and he's not even and it's not one of those things either. I don't even notice a difference. Well, I do notice when he's been drinking, but I'm saying like there's not like he needs some alcohol in him to be fun.
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
Same with like there are people who like please drink. He's got a good personality. I would. Yes. Yeah. Yeah.
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
Or is this too, you talk shit though. I talk so much shit.
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
I'm I here's the deal, too, because I was like, because I said to Chris Scheller, we bring in this up at the reunion. Are we bringing and I can't ready like we're going to talk about. And I'm not kidding you. And I don't know if that's just like being a healthy person. Yeah. Or like journaling or maybe like my therapy. I don't know.
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
But I was just... Because that's how I do things where I fucking cry. I like, fuck you. And I have my moment. It's true. And then I'm like, I wake up and I'm just like, okay. And then I forget and I'm done. But it does. It does. I have a meltdown. Yeah. And then a few days later or...
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
I should have because it wouldn't it would have been nicer. But like I haven't even put that dusty thing on in a while. I'm done. You have drama.
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
I'm sensitive as shit and I can't stand people and I want to talk shit.
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
But then it's like, all right, I'm done. And I felt like with Danielle, it's like beating a dog, like a dead dog or something.
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
I'm not calling Danielle a dog. I'm saying like, no, it's not fun anymore to be like, this has crossed the line into like, I'm over it. I'm just done. So I did come prepared. But what was the question?
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
Talk about all this bullshit at the thing. And I just, I was just over it. Yeah.
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
I said, I go, make me look like a drag queen. That's what the style. And I had someone who's like does make it for RuPaul's Drag Race. So I'm like the most like girl. You didn't look drag. A little. Yeah. I looked in the mirror and I did feel a little bit.
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
And it was like, girl, it was. So whatever. But Dolores, can I say good? Yeah. I was very shocked. Are we not allowed to talk shit on here? We can. No. Yes. No. So Dolores was saying that people are like saying like how dumb she is online about moves. I did. Here's all I'm going to say about this. I just didn't think that the housewives, any housewife. Yeah. I thought that they were.
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
And this is maybe a judgment. I thought that they were so used to people talking shit about them. Yeah. That they didn't read it or they didn't. I had no idea. Somebody like Dolores.
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
What? Because it's not I'm going to forget about it, but it hurt my feelings.
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
Well, she was just saying or talking about comments online. And this is where do you search your name or search what people are saying? No, let me say it. So with her, I can't be trusted with these comments. I didn't think the housewives gave a fuck. Like, because I don't search my name because it's way too much trauma. But, like, and I don't know, like, the things that are saying.
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
Good. When you're like, I don't want to be a traitor. I know it's not personal, but I heard that you do. So somebody told me and I'm truthfully because I love to talk shit. Someone said, no, Gabby said that she just didn't want to be a traitor then, but now does.
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
And Dolores, that's that's what is like I very like puzzling to me because I'm like, who the fuck? Like, again, this is a TV show. Yeah. Yeah. And people like do we really give a shit about I guess there's certain types of people who are watching for the strategy. Are they? Yeah. This is for this is entertainment. Right. And that's it. So like I told her who gives it like you're not a strategist.
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
It is. It's like for me, especially if you're going to fucking tell me about like some like traumatic event or story. What am I supposed to do? But I was literally, I was at a bar once.
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
And people, this person in there opening up and pretty soon we're both crying and we're hugging and it's like, I got to go home. And so it's just, but I have a heart too, but it's like, this is...
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
it's really really hard like and and i did i started to get to a point because and again i'm not like some i'm not i don't i'm not a celebrity i don't think of myself as i don't uh-huh i call myself a d-list do you oh are you d yeah then i'm like probably i'd say like z no we're both d-list girl i'm not i'm not on the same level as you yet i'm trying no stop i'm i'm I got to get more followers.
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
You're an icon. I got, I've gained a lot of followers since this. Yes, fuck yeah. But I am going to, good, I'm trying to grow, but I just, I don't like the attention. I don't like people touching me. Yeah. So it makes me just stay in and not want to go anywhere.
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
I'm looking for some. Yeah. Don't touch me or like you can talk to me, but like good. Like you don't want to disappoint people.
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
Fucking traitors. But it's only because it's only because of Danielle. Not even the personal, like get personal. And maybe this is my own trauma that like you should have, because that's what Derek said is like, I could tell that you had, or what did he say? I said after, I can't remember, but he was like, you could tell that you had been going through some shit. And I'm like,
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
But I guess I just wear it so loudly. Yeah. But again, it's like we all have our shit. Right. Whatever good. And I hate when people say like, you shouldn't play these games or you should. I am just fine. I'm strong as fucking hell. Literally. Just let me cry while I'm doing it. Fuck you. I hate it. I hate it. Yeah. This game 100%. And it's because. Wow.
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
I think expectations of, and I remember telling you this, like, I thought this was supposed to be fun.
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
And you were like, I talked to someone before and they said this was really fun.
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
But even just the turret and being there way fucking later than y'all. It's like it is hard. It's fucking hard. Did you when I left? Did you hear my boot? Did I kick your door? Oh, you really do follow the rules, girl.
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
Is it because I don't have as big of a following? You can say it. Do you think that's why?
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
It's true. It's true. Don't you feel like you could have been Dylan? Yes. Like, why the fuck weren't you the hero? Literally. I mean, it's true. You were smart. You were. But this is like the judgments that we all do. And we saw it in the kid. Like, obviously, you. Yeah. I mean, it's different, but like, yes, like you, you're dumb or you're, you know, people underestimate you all that.
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
And you were smart as hell. You had good reads on stuff. That's what I'm saying. Just because you don't fucking talk like a strategist, whatever the hell that sounds like. Yeah. I don't either. And that's how I play these games. Like I don't fucking talk about 20 steps and bullshit and yada yada. It's not going to work. But neither Dylan wasn't like super. You were very similar.
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
I'm drowning. I feel like I'm going to have a mental breakdown, to be honest.
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
Why didn't you not? You weren't very similar.
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
Like, I really thought that would be a vote for me and my like for Danielle. So that's why I but like, girl, it got hard talking with her because one ear he couldn't hear in one year he could. And I would never remember what fucking ear I could talk into. Plus, he couldn't see. And I'm not making fun of people who are blind, but like it sucked.
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
You try fucking trying to talk with someone, and I didn't remember what ear. It sucked. I didn't even know that. He's hard of hearing in one ear. I don't know if he's, like, completely deaf, but, like, whatever.
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
He can't hear in one ear, and I would always talk into the wrong ear, and then I'd be shouting. And I'm not trying to be stressed like that, and I'd just be like, oh, and I'd walk away. It's too much. Yeah. But it's so awkward watching, like, the episodes good. After I leave, I'm, like, bored, but also, like... It's so awkward.
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
He told me and it hurt me because he said, Gabby, because I said, this is what hurt me during the... Nothing else. Because I had this dream and it really was keeping me through the game. Where I'm like, this is going to be fun. And I'm going to like, woo! But that wouldn't have been fun for you.
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
And I'm glad you stuck it on the couch and was like, I ain't getting up.
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
I can't do the small talk. I hate it. I can't like go down and do the bullshit. It makes me uncomfortable. And that's what was hard for me in that castle. Like I would rather be alone sitting like doing something hiding. I would often go upstairs and I'd hide and I would just tell people I had diarrhea. But
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
It was a lot. And it wasn't like fun sometimes, but it was fun sometimes. But watching it after, like, I was like, this is fucking weird. And the dynamics and the
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
This is fun. Yeah. Good. Who are you talking to when you're doing this? Like, is that like the, like, because when you're just doing it and no one's here.
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
So that's just like the thing. Yeah. I'm just this way.
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
Yeah. I'm like fucking a guy. Which guy? I don't know. And who knows? It doesn't even matter. But I feel like there's a lot of podcast people. So is this like the fucking thing? If you do it like this, it makes it more like.
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
Because where is that just like the thing now? Because I do. I see more people doing that. Oh, yeah. And I'm like, I don't think like I don't think obviously like there's not someone right here, too, unless there is someone right here, too.
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
no or even just if you can't fucking do it and that's like why I because I was oh god don't get me started I'm trying to be a co-host but like of this show in Minnesota but like they found out about it and they I did a podcast where I was like I'm trying to I didn't know that they would listen to it and I was like I'm trying to get her job. I fucking said it on the podcast.
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
I was trying to go for this bitch's job on this show. They thought this is how big of a fuckery that guy is. And he's funny. And he's like a gay who's like really eccentric and whatever. Yeah. fucking found the podcast clip and he posted, he like played it on the show in front of the girls. Oh my God. But that's kind of fucked up.
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
And so then she was like super uncomfortable and it probably was not a pro need.
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
Exactly. And I'm like, maybe that's his way of like, I can't say that. No, that's like, I mean, but that's what I wanted. And so I don't know, maybe like some, I just want to fill in, but yeah, like you are what you're doing. Like you don't want to fucking have to depend on like, or even have like another personality, like overtake you or like you're good on your own.
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
Oh, girl. I always tell people I have no idea. Look it up.
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
What am I supposed to say again? I'm so bad at this. I literally tell people that. I'm like, can't you find it before I?
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
Everything's just Carolyn Rose, but it's with fucking zeros and not. So people are like, why did you do that? Because the O's were taken, so it's zeros.
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
I wanted it to be Carolyn Rose because I hate my last name. But the O's were missing. So what the fuck was I supposed to do?
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
No, that's good. I like it. Okay. When you say everyone, are you just saying that?
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
I didn't know people like me over here, too. Are you making this up? So maybe I do have a, I do suffer from imposter syndrome a hundred percent, but I have confidence, but I do. Or is that the, no, imposter syndrome is what? When you don't feel like you're as good as like.
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
I love myself, but again, it's the attention and like the praise or like the, oh my God, I'll never get used to that. So maybe imposter syndrome is the wrong one, but like good. And again, I look at people on like different, like good, you have like a million and something followers. Yeah, no, people die for you. When do you think I'll get to a million? Yeah. Girl.
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
I know. I got more followers from traders than I did survive. Yeah.
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
Like, but to get to a – but yeah, you did the star dancing. Yeah, the star dancing.
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
Isn't it a lot of work? And you're like training.
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
I'm not on the level of Dancing with the Stars, I feel like. Yeah, after Traitors. I, so who out of our cast, Chrishell's already done it. Yeah. You've already done it. Who from our cast? And don't mess. Nikki Bella has done it. Nikki, oh God, you all have? Yeah.
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
But again, it's the trust. I just had people stealing from me. So I just there's so many thirsty, desperate ass people. And I'm like with this. I don't, well, if you want to just come to coffee with me and fuck, who, why are you, I don't know who you are. I don't know.
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
I know. You weren't on the same season though, right? No.
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
But it's kind of like, okay. You guys have all done it. But you know what I mean? It's like every time I turn on the fucking thing and was Tom sedated at the events?
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
I know. I'm not talking shit about him anymore, but like. Yeah. His personality on The Traitors, I felt like, was quirky, weird, fucking freaky. And I loved it when he was like sweating and being a freak. I felt like he was a beaten down dog at these event stuff and at the reunion. I felt like he tried and he tried to have the personality. You didn't feel like a sedated vibe?
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
Oh, I know. So good. I wanted the freak.
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
I've never watched and I don't want to do, I don't want to work with someone who literally is doing a fucking women owned with her husband doing the talk.
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
You would have been fun and great. No, you would have. I honestly think. And you have so much confidence. And, like, you would have been funny. It's all fake. It is not. There's no way. I thought for sure. And then you would be the type, in my opinion, you would have been like, meh. And it would have been fun and funny instead of, like, the try hard, like. Yeah.
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
So they hurt my feelings and it's all good.
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
But I really, like, I think he was trying to hurt me a little bit. Exactly.
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
Because I said that's the one thing that I was really excited. He said he didn't. Ugh.
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
Yeah, he did. And he hurt me. And it worked. And I did. Yeah, it's all good.
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
we were sitting on the end just him and I and I'm like great what the fuck are we gonna talk about and then like no he's fun yeah he's so fun he's someone out there I fucking hated and it's the truth and I was a lot of it too I would based on like like what did you hate him before no I don't fucking know any of these people when I and I'm not like bobbed literary queening right now I did not
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
It was a little much, but I did think, I'm like, girl, like, because he didn't want to get hate or something, maybe made that up. So that is true. He really did not. Yeah. And not everybody knows who, but I just thought she was, like, the famous one on the show.
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
And I'm like, why would I? And I go, I've never like seen like, like I don't know anything about it. I know she has her own. Well, then he's like, you got to come when you're here. Sorry. Is she? Yeah. Yeah. And I don't know because I don't know people. And so I was just like, no, I don't want to do you know me people just come and do my fucking pod. I don't want to do any fucking pods.
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
In their own circle. So, no, you're right. So, yeah, I didn't know who the hell anyone was. I didn't have any pre-existing shit with Rob.
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
Yeah, I hated all of them. And so, and I went in there with that. And partially, this is the truth, because I wear my heart on my sleeve. I am still thinking about you being a chameleon. So I wear it on my sleeve and I had so much anger of like, you're not anger is the wrong word. Yeah. Like, good. I didn't want a man to like. Yeah.
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
And it was like the three big survivor names who've won multiple times. I was annoyed. I already hate men. And it was one of those things where like, get out of here. I don't want you telling me what to do. Yeah. And I've seen his season. Dude, I know him. I've never met Boston Robb.
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
But he typically in his games, he'll tell people what to do and he'll have like his little person by the side that just kind of is... Dylan. An idiot or... Yeah. You said it, not me.
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
And so when he was like... It triggered me. Everything fucking triggered me out there. And that's the truth.
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
But that's what I'm fucking saying. That's what I'm saying. And so what I'm seeing, because I'm going out there and like, yeah, I'm going to murder and do all this bullshit because I am an emotional fucking person. I did not think that this game, and that's why I really tried to disconnect. I didn't want to know anyone. I didn't want, I just wanted to... Yeah.
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
Well, girl. But was it different? I mean...
Long Winded with Gabby Windey
hootin around with Carolyn Wiger
It was hard for me. And I'm not a natural like because I do. I do freak people out. The drag queen. He'll get mad. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I'm like, I terrify people for the first time when I meet them. And I think it is because I do. And people, you know, many times people have said, can I talk about autism here? Yeah, please. Yeah. I at this point, like I am begging for a diagnosis because like I'm not.
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E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets
So I'm looking at that picture again and I'm thinking it all over again. It's a mix between Pilot Pete.
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E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets
It's a mix between Pilot Pete and that other guy that I just said. You don't get that a lot. I'm sure.
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E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets
So yeah, thanks for having me. And honestly, I do better with chaos. So this is great.
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E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets
I know you seem very Zen. I do. I'm so used to it. It's like, let's go.
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E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets
So what do you want to do? Talk your shit.
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E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets
See, here's the deal. I'm leaving. I have a lot of like mentors right now.
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E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets
Yes. Okay. So Boston, Rob, Wes. Yeah. And so I'm in this like balancing act of like, Carolyn, like, Cause I don't want to be some bitter bitch who was like in the game. I already get made fun of enough for being so emotional. Like, doesn't she know what she's doing out there? Doesn't she know she's playing a game? Yes, I do. But the traders is different.
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E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets
We're not playing like a big brother survivor. This is different. So yeah, but I'll always cry in everything and that I'm okay. I don't get what people are so freaked out by, by like crying too.
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E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets
Let me get, I'm doing just fine.
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E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets
Oh, I don't read, but people will send, I don't even know like the, I'll know like, okay, everyone loves you or everyone hates you or everyone's pissed about this or everyone other than that. But I'm trying to like leave on a good note.
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E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets
Thank you.
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E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets
like do you think i thought that like i don't you're used to being around people and like you have a lot of who was just on this show it was like someone really big apparently you're used to it i'm not i'm from minnesota i'm from wisconsin oh that changes a lot then okay never mind then like how do you so it takes a while to get used to this stuff right i just i mean you know you don't know much about me but like the long time ago i was on the bachelorette and i was a villain
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E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets
And then I'm going to like it hurts me if I'm hurting you. So I don't like it. But I don't read a whole ton of crap. Like, you know what I'm saying?
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E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets
I'm listening. But my point, too, I'll just talk. My point, too, is like you're used to like I show up in this castle. I don't know who a lot of the people are. And I'm scared. I'm really, really nervous because it's not what I'm used to. It's not like. I don't selling sunset or any of these big shows. People are so used to like even being on TV, being on camera. And so I'm not kidding you.
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E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets
You know, many times I was like, what is what are people's real personalities? Because it's like the camera comes out and then I don't have that.
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E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets
I would like, honestly, Danielle was one of them. And I don't want to just say that because I don't like her, but it was just a very. But you don't. No, no, no, no, no, no. I don't. I didn't expect it. So, for example, I would say like Bob the Direct Queen, it really is like the same person on and off camera. Chrishell, she is just very good at like, you know, saying the things and being so.
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E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets
Yes, because she's been doing this. But there weren't like there's just like with Danielle. I'm like, I did not expect this. Like we go because one on one. I'm like, OK, yeah, we're getting along. And then in the turret, it was just and I I completely just took that as like somebody who's like playing there.
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E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets
Like she's trying to do like, well, you know, maybe what Phaedra did or like because when they picked me as a traitor, I said, I'm not an actress. I'm not going to be like murder or talking like that. I'm just going to be like you. myself I'm sure they were like we don't need you to be your no I know right like but I did I was like
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E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets
So I felt like, OK, there's people that are going to like I expected because that's what always bothered me about reality TV. Good is you go on reality TV and people aren't real. And I know is that sounds stupid. It's true. And so I didn't with Survivor. It's like people are just so raw and like you really can't hide much. You're all out there.
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E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets
I knew it would be a bunch of people who just want screen time. And like, what do I need? I wasn't thinking like that. Like, what do I go out there and say to make sure that I'm getting the airtime? A lot of people think like that.
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E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets
And you know what?
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E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets
Here, I'm going to be honest with you, Nick, because it is hard because she's getting so much hate right now that it has like, because I've had a lot of poems about her and I was like pissed. But at the end of the day, it's like, okay, it's a game, Carolyn, but I don't believe that. That's just what I'm told. the swearing on your grandkids thing.
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E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets
So again, I have like a hard time like talking crap because she's already getting so much hate. So it sucks. But here's my opinion outside of like the shit talking is that when I watched the traders and I know we're only on season three, I just didn't expect anyone to go to that level. Oh, well, here, here's the deal. We're playing a game. And I never even knew what the prize pot was at.
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E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets
I'm not rich, but, like, girl, you were going... Like, I'm not going to do anything. Like, it was just not, like... And I truly thought that this was a game, like, to have fun. And for me... Good. People watch like Big Brother and these shows and it's like almost like go watch football or something. I don't watch it for like the strategy or oh, you did.
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E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets
I don't like have some strategy, but I don't give a shit about like this move or this move. I don't. I want to be entertained and I don't get entertained by that. And so it was hard for me. I didn't think that, I didn't think like we needed to go to that level with the people that we were playing with.
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E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets
And I'm not saying the people we were playing with aren't intelligent, but what I'm saying is like, you think Dolores thinks that people do that? No! Or Lord Ivar? They don't! And Chrishell? So seeing Chrishell, and that's when I really knew, I was like, she had tears in her eyes. Tears. And I'm like, I wouldn't be able to sleep at night if I was doing that good. And you're like, well,
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E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets
But the argument is, like, that's the gamers versus non-gamers. And that's, like, you do what you gotta do to win. That's how those Big Brother fans are.
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E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets
It's not that serious. It's not that. And so for me, I was coming off of a hard year. And you know what? I was excited when I got that call because I'm not some two time winner. I'm not some frickin Survivor Champion Hall of Fame. So I was frickin excited. I just wanted to go wild, bust out. And so it just, it did. It sucked. I thought that it was a show for like fun.
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E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets
I mean, we're in a fricking castle. We got Lala. We got like, come on. So, but it was a great time.
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E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets
No.
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E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets
I had fun, but I could have had more fun if it wasn't so serious. And again, and I don't want to say this. I don't want to be like the gamers are ruining the show. I don't want to. I don't think that they're ruining the show, but it doesn't need to be taken to that level of like it takes the fun out of it.
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E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets
Because at the end of the day, you want to watch people having fun on a TV show, not like taking like personal attacks or like it.
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E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets
swearing on their kid that becomes icky in my opinion which is probably why they edited it out did you have a harder time watching it or doing it oh girl doing it watching it like i i don't and i really don't get embarrassed easily i could literally like shit on this couch right now i'd rather you not
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E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets
It was expensive. With something else. But anyway, I did it.
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E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets
No. I got my period on the breakfast chair, the first. Is that inappropriate? No, not for us. And so you try going to breakfast. You're a woman. You understand. Yeah. I go down to breakfast. This is my first breakfast. I'm wearing a yellow skirt and I'm excited. I'm feeling cute. They already had to tape my nipples to the thing and my bra was coming off. So I was already a little bit stressed.
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E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets
But it's my first breakfast where I have to like, hi, I get up and I there's like a murder scene. And I'm like, oh, my God. Oh, my God. What do I do? And thankfully, Dolores helped me. But like, yeah, I literally like I am a murderer and I have blood all over me. And I am like, wow, she's a traitor.
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E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets
so yeah that's the type of shit that just happens to me but even then i didn't get like blood on your hands yeah like i could go on it's nasty but no like i am grateful for the experience because it is such a huge freaking show and it's so incredible and when you're out there like it's gorgeous it's beautiful it's a cool show so no like monsters gonna ruin that for me i could have so many questions but i have to go but yeah you gotta go like girl i'm gonna leave
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E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets
Yeah, this was like, girl, I was like, I'm not coming from the airport.
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E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets
I didn't want to correct you.
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E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets
How is it?
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E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets
Girl, that's because you literally rhyme your show with girl. Like vile file.
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E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets
I thought this was a crime pod. I'm like, when they asked if I wanted to do the vile files, I was like, I'm not doing some like investigation discovery shit.
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E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets
I don't know.
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E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets
You know what I'm saying? The vile files? I thought this was some sort of a crime scene.
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E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets
So no, you're doing a great job. I'm jealous. So that's the truth. That's too late for a rebrand.
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E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets
No, it's all good. I'm really grateful to be here.
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E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets
Say that to Jeff Probst. That's really... Bring her back. because stars, not even that, but like that, this show, like it truly, this brings other people in who's never, and I've had so many people reach out to me. It was like, I never saw survivor and now I'm watching. So it is, it's true.
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E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets
It brings to, because again, like people warn me like, okay, like there's different fan communities, like the Bravo people, the, and I've been now exposed to like all. Yeah. It's, it's interesting. Every little community is different. Yeah.
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E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets
I feel like, OK, yes, the gamers. But I feel like Big Brother, though, is like its own. Which is so crazy. It's both CBS. It's both like the gamer category. But I feel like Big Brother, the Big Brother like fandom. It's just it's that's a different. I don't even know what that's on.
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E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets
At least I can get the hell away from these people. Like, I would never be able to do Big Brother. And it ain't even about the live feeds and all that bullshit. It's about.
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E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets
being trapped in a house you might never know and even on traders like i could at least like because i would i would get like um usually i would just say like i like poop my pants or something truly and just go and just get a minute alone or get i need that i cannot be around i can't be on 24 7 i can't and it is it's so much in a day that like it's it is it's hard so on big brother hell no
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E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets
No, but the gaming level of, like... Yeah. No, uh-uh.
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E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets
Were we talking about the last episode?
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E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets
That's the thing. It's oh, so my whole thing always this was my plan because I'm like, if we're if OK, we're all we're supposedly face faithful. So like, let's just go with the evidence. Unfortunately, the evidence typically is just like someone sneezed in a certain direction or something just so stupid. And so that but it's like you take hold of it. So one that was my plan.
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E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets
That was my what I was going to do. So one person, so like Robin, I remember I had said something about Wells. I'm like, okay, yeah, sure. It was early on. Like, who cares? And so, okay, make it stick. And that's why I felt like I had so much on Danielle when I finally was going for her that I was like, but I couldn't make it stick. I couldn't make it stick.
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E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets
And then I do, I believe at the end, like people just knew she was a traitor, not all of them, but some. And so I get like, Whatever. But early on, it's kind of and then the theories, the cage theory and all this like it and it is it's not fun playing like that. I would much rather like vote people out because, yeah, they sneeze that day or something. It's these theories in these.
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E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets
But I tried to play the game with like, let's just follow the evidence. And it's like. Girl. I just wanted to have fun, truly.
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E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets
I was like, OK, I've watched the show. I've watched all the seasons. I've watched the UK, the like all of them. And I'm like, yeah, I am a fan and I do own a cloak and I sleep in it. And I'm like, that was a dream. I was excited. My whole thing going in was like, OK, I'm not going to go for them until they come for me or they like or or until they.
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E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets
it becomes so obvious that one of them are a traitor then like yep i'll throw him under the bus like i'll vote along with it but i'm not gonna like that was never but we start going for each other so quick and again i didn't see it like i i understand where rob was coming from now but out there no i was like your ego and like honestly coming off of my like own like whole era of like
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E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets
don't you tell me what to do I'm an independent like I was bringing a whole ton of that in there and I've seen Boston Robb seasons and I'm like I don't want to be your Philip because that was like he had his little like person on the side I was like no I don't want and it was a lot of my own shit of like I don't trust a man I don't and especially one who is like
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E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets
like Boston Rob good you're too good and I was intimidated I was jealous of him good so I'm like you can talk perfect you can even that round table where he went I didn't want him gone I had written him a poem I just didn't get a chance to read it to him in person yet but I didn't want him to go but it would like truly certain things would trigger me like the way people treated Tom because I saw a lot of myself in Tom okay and good and I shouldn't
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E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets
See, it's like the cool thing to do right now is to make fun of Tom. The cool thing to do is to, you know, he's a, you know, dirtball and he's a narcissist and he's all like, I love Tom. And I don't, like, cancel me tomorrow. I don't, like... I will say that out loud because I truly don't believe that any person, anyone ever deserves to be judged forever by their past.
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E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets
I am somebody who has a... I don't have a good past. I used to hate myself. I used to not like the person I was. I've done some bad things that I'm not proud of. So has Tom. And it's like, how long does this person have to, like, be punished? So, again, I'm not going to, like... There's people who don't like him for certain reasons, and that's fine. Go ahead and not like him.
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E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets
You may have a personal experience with him, but my experience with him, I loved him. So when people weren't listening to him, even though I was wanting to work with Rob, I mean, I wasn't going to go above and beyond to save him because I couldn't. The way that Tom, he's saying valid points. He's saying things that did make sense that day. but nobody would listen to him because it was Tom.
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E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets
And so I spoke up and I'm like, just like he did this group mentality of like, and I get jealous of people like, but I'm just being real. This is like embarrassing, but it's true. I just was like, I'm so sick of you sounding so perfect and sounding. And again, he is, he's a great person and a great, but out there I was, I was, I was like, I can never talk like that. I could never.
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E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets
be like that eloquent speaker and you know what somebody who's like a little bit weird and quirky like Tom no one's gonna listen to so again I saw myself in that and I'm like just shut up and let him talk yes
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E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets
Yeah, just at the beginning. But you know what I'm saying? I literally got my period on the breakfast chair. So it's like, who the hell? You know what I'm saying? We all, we're all humans. Who the hell hasn't sweat here? You know what I'm saying? And I'm not trying to be like, OK, but he literally was wearing like a gray. That is the worst color to wear.
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E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets
And the man lost or his bag or his luggage wasn't there yet. He did not have any clothing. So it's like he was working with what he could work with and wearing that hot ass sweater. It was like literally thicker than and then he's wearing a gray T-shirt. Yeah, I love Tom. And I truly believe and I've told him this a million times. I was like, you are a
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E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets
freaky like you're a weirdo he is a weirdo in the best way though and I love freaks and I love weirdos and I love people who are different I from the minute like and I'm like oh so I always love just like fucking around with him and scaring him and I like Yeah. Yeah.
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E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets
So here and then Dylan, like, sorry, don't be you like girl. You see me and Dylan talking and he's like, I know. And I hate that I because I go, if I were Boston Rob, would you be listening right now? He's like, I know. And I hate that I've been doing this to you, not listening. Then you hear him say before that he's talking about how nobody thinks that. But Carolyn. That's a bunch of bullshit.
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E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets
That's not... Girl, we've seen it. People not listening to me. Like, stop. But anyway, he... With that chess thing, and this is like the human part of me because I can never play any of these damn games. I don't care how much the prize pot is. I don't care how. I can never play and I can't separate it. I try and then it just, I can't. Tom was on a mission to redeem himself.
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E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets
Tom was on this, I'm going to be a faithful. He took it very seriously as we saw in the lullaby thing. He was trying really hard. I remember I was like... For me, I ain't going to be running really hard. You're not going to catch me. No way. I love Kate's style of just throwing stuff.
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E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets
I'm not hauling all this gunpowder because I know that there's about five other macho men who want to have that moment and that shot of them running. Let them. I... I told Gabby, I'm like, girl, we can take a break right here hauling that brigade. I don't care. I don't care if my head's up there. I'm a traitor. But like, I just didn't care when it came to that. So with Tom, Tom was trying.
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E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets
He was trying. So for me, I'm like, When he said, like, oh, he's the leader, I think he had answered it first, that he could be the leader, okay? I just wanted for one moment for Tom to not fucking feel alone and feel like there was somebody else on that cast who believed in him. That's the truth. That is my heart talking.
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E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets
And I wanted him to just feel for one fucking second that he was not alone in thinking that he could be this leader. Yeah. And I know that's like good. And like, again, obviously it's like we see him mess up a lot and we see him like, I don't care. I love it. And I really hope that even as he watches this back, it's like, I feel like this has helped him.
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E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets
I feel like it's kind of made him like a little bit lovable. Yeah. Should I shut up about Tom? I do. I think he's great. And I just don't think that anyone needs to be punished, you know, the rest of their life.
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E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets
I mean, I don't know if they put this on, but he was like warming up. And I was like, I couldn't believe it. But again, and so when other people would be like side eyeing him, I would be like, go Tom. And I wasn't doing it in like a condescending like me. I would always tell people, shut up. Like, cause I get those looks too. And you saw it during the season, like the puke.
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E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets
I get that all the time. Yeah. So I can just relate to that. And I just I loved him. Good. Put me in prison.
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E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets
And I loved Nikki's had Nikki had a similar like of just because people were judging her and thinking that she was going to like it's like seriously Wes because Wes expected her to like come out apparently in a wrestling outfit. Like table slam him. Like oh my gosh and I'm thinking like that.
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E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets
this isn't the wrestling ring but I'm a traitor and so I'm like yeah it's Nikki but Nikki was that like because Nikki was pretty quiet when she was out there she was pretty reserved she had her people you know what I'm saying Nikki is not like this is not the what is she wrestling for the WWE yeah this isn't the wrestling ring but she said that like I loved her speech I thought it was beautiful because it is so true like we have these and I did it I'm not gonna lie I did it to people out there where I judged them or I thought they I thought Wes was a
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E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets
freaking asshole I was like you he was one of the first people that I was like oh my gosh I was wrong you are not an asshole you are blah blah blah same with Boston Rob really absolutely Wes is a speed heart I thought he was amazing I thought that I had a good experience with him because I know too isn't there like some aggressive talk or something like I didn't have that experience but even like when I watched the show back and saw even like
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E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets
how Boston Rob talked with Rochelle, I'm thinking in my head, like we did, we, me and Boston Rob did not have that type of relationship, but at the same time, I'm a trader like with Boston Rob, you have to like spend time and have your little like alliances and whatnot.
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E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets
But we like in, in Boston Rob's defense, we never had the time to like actually sit down and it was always like, quick, what are we going to do? Go. And that's it. So, of course. But with Wes, I just found him like again, like he his jokes and like my opinion, like not everyone understood his humor. Right.
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E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets
But I thought he was like the first thing I said to him, like, how the hell have you been doing this for this long? And he's like, Carolyn, I am dead inside. Or he was like, I have to just separate it. And he's like, he always calls himself a sociopath. And I'm like, you're not. First of all, he really is. He is somebody who has helped me a lot even after the game. And I just I do.
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E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets
I think he's a great person. I think he like turns it on and off for TV. But truly is even out there. I saw a very kind person because he knew who I was from Survivor. And he's like, yep, you're the one who just makes all those faces. And I'm like, I'm more than that, Wes. But no, I thought he was great.
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E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets
Oh, girl. Yeah, I was trying to get in with those Bambis from Hawaii. The Bambis. Yeah. And like, again, but at the same time, it's exhausting to. Here's the truth. I had some really like just moments like off camera with people where it was like, oh, my gosh, where I'm like connecting with them. And I would just feel gross and make fun of me. I don't care.
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E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets
It felt so icky to I know we're not actually murdering them. But for this, the only way I would have been able to do this role of a traitor is if I could just, again, keep it light and blah, blah, blah. But it felt so like unfair to be doing this with like, you know, a Tom or a housewife or to get what I'm saying. It felt so gross because they are not you.
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E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets
Well, maybe they should be used to it then, Carolyn. I don't care. It felt icky. So when I would like bond with these people, I felt gross inside. So when I'd be crying, like, and this is like off camera conversations of like real life stuff going on where I'm connecting, I'm thinking like Dolores specifically. She knew some just stuff that was going on in my life and we're crying.
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E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets
And then I'm like, oh, my God. And I just murdered Robin. And it felt like good. I don't I don't care. It didn't feel good for me. I don't like to. So when I when I said I wanted to be a traitor, I wanted to be a traitor.
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E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets
But I thought that and I even asked Sandra before the show, I said, are people like because when you watch, there's not a whole ton of like backstory or like because on Survivor, it's like This is what I went through in a company. And like, it talks about like just my, my life. I thought with traders, I'm like, they don't do that shit here.
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E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets
So even like when there were times where I was talking like, um, Because there's times where it's like, OK, just save that for the camera or whatever. I was like, do you guys even give a shit about this past stuff or my trauma? Like, do you get what I mean? Yeah. I didn't think I thought this show was just like upbeat and fun and whatever. You know what I'm saying?
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E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets
So I was like, they're not going to use that anyway. But I would have those like I Sandra had said, like, oh, yeah, no, girl, like we're just playing and it's like blah, blah, blah. No, like, again, there are people who obviously are going and I'm not saying it's not OK to emotionally manipulate people. I just can't. I could do that in Survivor with other gaming people.
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E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets
It just felt icky in that environment. So when I would connect and it just felt like wrong.
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E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets
I was, yeah, that was, and then people, and this is what I hate too, like shut up and let her feel it. Like let her, you know what I'm saying? It's like that hurt. I was even shocked. I was like, come on, she's clear. Like y'all knew, but that's the game. I don't care. I don't like watching games like that. Let's all win together then. I don't care. Good.
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E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets
We all, and I guess I can respect how other people feel too. That's just not how I feel. And I did not, when I would see like Danielle crying to that extreme, I'm like,
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E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets
I don't like this. I don't want to do that. And so I was like, the only way I can do this is if I try to keep it surface level or if I try to just. And so I really did. I was like, just do the best that you can and have like the how you do and bullshit conversations. But that sucks, too.
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E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets
No, I was sorry. Finished.
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E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets
Okay. No, here's the deal. That was me believing in Tom. Okay. Yeah, good. I put that answer because it was freaking funny. Like, that's the thing. You could, like, create a million different scenarios with, like, when she was like, see, I set her up with that Brittany one. Because Brittany, I'm close with Brittany. Blah, blah, blah. And that makes it look suspicious.
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E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets
Yeah, girl, Gabby was picked for the two-face one, too. I don't think that was on there. Gabby was picked for the two-face one. But I don't talk like that. And I'm not going to go in my damn confessional and be like, you see here? I'm close to Gabby. And that's going to put suspicion on Danielle. No, I don't. I was like, well, that's me. So no, any time.
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E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets
And I would say this, even when we were thinking of like who to murder, I was like, I almost need to do the damn opposite of anything that this person says. That's how I felt. So that's why I say I think there's a confessional where I say something like I'm like overthinking everything.
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E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets
So if she's agreeing to something, I'm thinking like, oh, my gosh, no, then that's then I should do the opposite. So do you try like thinking like that? But when it came, I willingly put myself as the like loud voice where no one listens to voice because this was my thought. OK, my thought was like, I'm so loud about this. I am so loud about no.
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E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets
at me and nobody did that it would look way too freaking like that is like the double obvious of like a traitor would never freaking put themselves as that position is I am a loud ass one being like no one listens to me so in my opinion they clearly just thought I was a complete fucking idiot that's my opinion sorry clearly if they're like the Carolyn put herself there my problem yes I am
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E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets
answered it because that's what we were doing. We were going off of whether I believe it or not. So again, because Dylan's like, nope, that's not what everyone thinks. Yes, it is. First off. But second, we were going off of like the the the read of the room. And recently I had been or I had been saying it so much. So it was like, OK, well, I guess I always say that. So that could be an answer.
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E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets
Just like Sierra had said, Britney's are going under the radar or whatever. Yeah. Do you know what I mean? Like the read of like what just happened? What just happened? No. But yeah, the only suspicious thing I did was argue with Dolores. Okay. And then stand up for Tom too much. Good. That's my heart talking. Yeah. And I don't regret it.
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E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets
I never felt like suspect, but again, that wasn't enough to get me like, it's all good. Like truly.
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E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets
Yes. I like girl, I was not, I wasn't, I wasn't prepared, but I'm not going to, I was too hard on myself. Like I always am. And when I say like I wasn't ready, like I wasn't prepared for like just a lot of the stuff that she said, because I felt like it was so crazy that I was like, this is not happening because I felt so gaslit.
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E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets
Where it's like and then I'm saying things and it was just flipped around like it like I've been scared and Jeremy and I'm like, wait, how how is this happening? I was in shock. Yeah. To be honest, because I truly wanted to just wait. Because it's scary. Like, again, I'm playing. I love Tom. But I knew I couldn't depend on Tom.
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E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets
You think I'm going to be like, yo, Tom, like before, can I count on you? This ain't like Survivor where you can freaking do that and like pull together numbers. You can't. Well, I guess Boston Rob can. I can't. And so before that roundtable, first of all, there was not time. So I had talked to Gabby and I talked to Dylan.
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E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets
OK, that Lord, I knew Dolores was not like I'm like, girl, she ain't going to vote for Danielle. Tom, I knew I couldn't depend on, but I figured he could at least read the room long enough to like understand like this is where the vote was going and like pick me. But I didn't think I just didn't think I'd be out. I really didn't. So we have a plan, Carolyn.
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E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets
I didn't freaking need one because I literally have been. And I didn't think of the chest crap as like, I gave it all away. So, you know what I'm saying? I was not. And again, like, girl, she's like. You photoshopped a picture of a or you photoshopped your head on the body of a traitor.
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E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets
You think I can tell Lord Ivor or Dolores or anyone else there that like, hey, the season two cast, they're all wearing cloaks. Janelle wasn't a traitor, though. I just used her body when I photoshopped my face on it. You know, I was embarrassed. I was like looking at Ellen like, oh, my God. And she owns a cloak. Yeah, I do, girl. I sleep in it. Yeah.
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E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets
But it was just like, can you imagine? How am I supposed to? But it was so ridiculous, the stuff that I was like, I just remember looking at Alan and feeling so embarrassed because I'm like, I do sleep in a cloak, Alan. It was just, it was, yeah.
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E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets
Really, when I think about this, honestly, thankfully, Boston Rob did that. Otherwise, it kind of, well, no, then Dylan had obviously told me that Danielle's throwing my name out. And I found out that started like the crazy, but I understand why he did that. But I don't care what anybody says. Once somebody does that to you, it's really hard to like be like, all right, let's play.
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E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets
let's play together and like move on she kept doing it too it's like so but then I know but like to the audience though they don't really hear it's like I've been trying but Carolyn's unstable yeah I am unstable now but you've got reunion coming up yeah I'm excited I'm lying I'm lying and here's why things do hurt me but again I write about it I journal about it and then and I it was the same way on Survivor where I had my meltdown
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E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets
It's like people don't realize that these games like it's a lot and I play as myself. So things hurt. OK, things hurt. And I would like argue in my head like, well, Carolyn, this is a part of your strategy or yours. But it's like, yeah, but it's myself. And so when I see the side eyes and when I but it helps you in the game, it doesn't mean that it doesn't hurt my feelings.
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E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets
It doesn't mean that words don't hurt still. And again, it's like at the end of the day. What do I change? What do I get to change? I might get far in the game, but if nobody is actually respecting you or taking you seriously, then what is the point? What's the point? But I don't want to change. Good. So I'm excited, but I'm... Do you have things prepared that you want to hash out? Nope.
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E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets
And you know what? I said this before the traders. I was like, Because I do trip over my words. I have a slow processing speed. I am somebody who needs a minute. And I get really triggered by people yelling at me. And I get really triggered by people talking down to me. Like, you don't know my life. And that's the thing. We don't know what people have been through before you.
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E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets
And when you're talked to like that, it's like, girl. So... what was I saying? Like, yeah, there's, yeah, it's hard. So like going into this, it's like, Oh, I always, I, um, so like for final travel at survivor, I was like, I'm just going to speak from my heart. It's like, when am I going to learn? But I don't really give a shit. Like I'm not changing. And I said, I said, I was like,
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E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets
I wonder if I should take some debate classes before the traders and just like because I want to sound polished sometimes. I want to sound like Boston Rob sometimes. Yeah. But then I wouldn't be me. You know. Yeah. So it's like but like so I guess I'll just like like cast me again and I'll make it tap. Yeah.
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E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets
know what i mean like i don't know i don't know what to do but like yes sometimes i wish that i didn't react so emotionally sometimes i wish that but again at the end of the day like that's me and i couldn't like i can't turn that off that's not a character that's not a so yeah comments hurt so going into the reunion idea i guess i should have like but yeah once again i'm not going to be prepared and we'll see how it goes but boston rob will defend me
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E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets
I'm excited. I'm going to look cute. That's all I care about, to be honest. That's all that matters. I don't really... The rest, like, are we supposed to... Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I already know it's going to be like that, where it's going to be like, I don't want good. Let me be positive. But that's not entertaining, right? It is for us.
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E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets
So we love you. I just don't want to like, again, this is like, I had my moment after the show watching it. Cause I was like, Ooh, But now I'm in a place where it's like, I don't want to read, like, there's nothing that anyone is going to say. I don't need to rehash this again and be like, I don't like, I don't with her. I don't.
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E894 - Taylor Ann Green, Traitors w/ Carolyn, Hometowns, LIB, The Oscars, Ruby Franke, and Brunch Buffets
I feel good. And I really do feel like, you know, I did my best. And again, it's not about that. I'm not a gamer in that sense of like, this was my move. I don't give a shit. And I don't care to like, smells like something in here, but I don't know what. Yeah. What is, it's those candles. Why are they so big? So big. God. Sonia, thank you. Thank you.