Carly's Angels

Mm-mm.

Those agents did not die in vain. Mrs. Doolin came to me and she said, I've heard maybe you can help me.

What Charlie's angels were bringing to us was invaluable. They were this group of strong women who were not going to just let this go. They brought a series of stories about Matt's conduct at different points in his life.

The so-called suicide note was typed.

Preachers, the good ones are great. The bad ones have the most power of anybody.

Now you're in undetermined land, now you're in a mystery, now let's solve the mystery.

And so we found the person who wrote the book on crime scene reconstruction, Tom Bevel.

And that bit of forensics in the computers now hard-linked into the toxicology forensics. Our theory became, hmm, the Ambien in the wine cooler, he got her sleepy with that so he could later suffocate her. That was our theory.

Looking back on it, they were predictive.

Having an affair that predated the killing, that would be big evidence.

Would Matt Baker have the nerve to actually interview for and do a photo shoot with Texas Monthly? Yes, he would.

His story was not adding up anymore. You wouldn't have left those two girls there if you didn't think it was safe.

Had she sort of refreshed herself and gotten awake and forward-thinking by that time?

I'm conjecturing that it went through his mind that maybe she already took all the sleeping pills before he left. Was she aware enough that you could observe that she could handle if the kids needed her, for instance? I would have, yeah.

She had to be fine or else she was incapacitated and he was a bad father and he just left his girls with an incapacitated person. Which one is it, Matt? So he chose the high room. That yes, Carrie was fine. So if Carrie's fine, she's not getting ready to die.

while you had the phone pressed against your shoulder, you put on her panties first, is that correct? I believe that's right. And then what did you do? And I put on her shirt. Okay, and she's on the bed at this time?

Just a stick figure put where she came to rest once you moved. How difficult was that to move her?

In listening to the 911 call, it sounded phony.

I think he'd give himself an Oscar, and I'd give him a rotten tomato.

The computer expert found incredible evidence regarding searches, regarding suicide, regarding sleeping pills, and regarding Ambien, which became critical.

He was a Baptist pastor, preacher. He was a predator. I think he's a dark angel. You get to be the hero during daylight and sneak around in the dark and be evil.

It's small enough that most people are just a degree or two away from knowing everybody else. Hewitt, Texas is a suburb of Waco.

Carly's angels would wake up. They were this group of strong women who were not going to just let this go. You're presented with a crime scene that's not really a crime scene, right?