Carl (Carl Miller)
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This is how they're going to get to work.
But put together, we called all of these orders the kill list.
It was the single most grotesque, disgusting, horrible, frightening thing I've ever had to read in my entire life.
And it was getting longer all the time.
So I did what any sane person would do.
I phoned the police.
And so it was, in the middle of COVID, the first two strangers that I'd seen for months were two somewhat nervous uniformed police officers from the Metropolitan Police stood in my kitchen, and I laid it all out for them.
I took them through the website, I took them through the hacks, I showed them the orders, we'd drawn this diagram of how the website worked, and they looked at it, and they looked at me, and they looked at each other, and they were unfortunately genuinely quite concerned I was insane.
And it's a bit of a longer story, but ultimately the Metropolitan Police decided not to take up an active investigation in the site.
But we knew we couldn't step away.
These people whose images we could see, who knew where we lived, these people being targeted, they might be in terrible danger.
They might not know that someone out there on the dark net was trying to have them killed.
So we took a decision, maybe the most difficult decision I've ever had to make, certainly professionally, and the decision was that I would go and reach the people on the kill list myself.
directly, that I would tell them that someone was trying to kill them.
And so we sculpted a script.
We worked with a psychologist.
We worked out how we would try and soften the blow of being told that someone was trying to kill you.
And I had to also emotionally embrace myself for this.
The idea that I was about to throw this emotional hand grenade in someone's life, it was absolutely awful.