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Carl (Carl Miller)

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TED Talks Daily
Inside a dark web kill list | Carl Miller

This is how they're going to get to work.

TED Talks Daily
Inside a dark web kill list | Carl Miller

But put together, we called all of these orders the kill list.

TED Talks Daily
Inside a dark web kill list | Carl Miller

It was the single most grotesque, disgusting, horrible, frightening thing I've ever had to read in my entire life.

TED Talks Daily
Inside a dark web kill list | Carl Miller

And it was getting longer all the time.

TED Talks Daily
Inside a dark web kill list | Carl Miller

So I did what any sane person would do.

TED Talks Daily
Inside a dark web kill list | Carl Miller

I phoned the police.

TED Talks Daily
Inside a dark web kill list | Carl Miller

And so it was, in the middle of COVID, the first two strangers that I'd seen for months were two somewhat nervous uniformed police officers from the Metropolitan Police stood in my kitchen, and I laid it all out for them.

TED Talks Daily
Inside a dark web kill list | Carl Miller

I took them through the website, I took them through the hacks, I showed them the orders, we'd drawn this diagram of how the website worked, and they looked at it, and they looked at me, and they looked at each other, and they were unfortunately genuinely quite concerned I was insane.

TED Talks Daily
Inside a dark web kill list | Carl Miller

And it's a bit of a longer story, but ultimately the Metropolitan Police decided not to take up an active investigation in the site.

TED Talks Daily
Inside a dark web kill list | Carl Miller

But we knew we couldn't step away.

TED Talks Daily
Inside a dark web kill list | Carl Miller

These people whose images we could see, who knew where we lived, these people being targeted, they might be in terrible danger.

TED Talks Daily
Inside a dark web kill list | Carl Miller

They might not know that someone out there on the dark net was trying to have them killed.

TED Talks Daily
Inside a dark web kill list | Carl Miller

So we took a decision, maybe the most difficult decision I've ever had to make, certainly professionally, and the decision was that I would go and reach the people on the kill list myself.

TED Talks Daily
Inside a dark web kill list | Carl Miller

directly, that I would tell them that someone was trying to kill them.

TED Talks Daily
Inside a dark web kill list | Carl Miller

And so we sculpted a script.

TED Talks Daily
Inside a dark web kill list | Carl Miller

We worked with a psychologist.

TED Talks Daily
Inside a dark web kill list | Carl Miller

We worked out how we would try and soften the blow of being told that someone was trying to kill you.

TED Talks Daily
Inside a dark web kill list | Carl Miller

And I had to also emotionally embrace myself for this.

TED Talks Daily
Inside a dark web kill list | Carl Miller

I dreaded it.

TED Talks Daily
Inside a dark web kill list | Carl Miller

The idea that I was about to throw this emotional hand grenade in someone's life, it was absolutely awful.