Cam Holmes
Appearances
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
very good at telling him how i was feeling i was actually at the time severely like depressed and really just not in a good way mentally um i didn't speak to my family or friends for a while i was in this hanging around with like the wrong people you're trying to be someone you weren't like you're trying to impress other people like make people please other people to make them happy like
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
yeah yeah I didn't know I didn't know who I was in this yeah in this world in this industry I think it's so good to know what you're doing what your niche is who you are I didn't know that I just I was this boy from reality show come from this small town in Wales didn't I've never been to London like twice I didn't really know any of it and then all of a sudden I'm like well who am I um so yeah I just wasn't I wasn't in the best way and it reflected in our relationship
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
It becomes a personal thing. It's like it's about you and it's about everything you do.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
I had to have a sit-down conversation and be like, what should we do here? I'm like, well, you just need to let me run. You're too pure for this conversation.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
deal with that and go through that with you because it's made but it's helped me grow as a person as well isn't it yeah I think it was like when I went on the show I never I didn't tell him about like my struggles with mental health and I had them before but you know on the show when I went on the show I was in a really good place yeah and I knew I knew that it was going to affect me because I spoke to like my dad someone I speak to all the time and he was like you know what your head's like he's like you're going to go up there it's like I predicted it I knew I was going to go up there ride that wave and then it was going to come crashing down yeah and I stupidly didn't put anything in place so I was just
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
riding that wave and I didn't really do any work on myself to be prepared for that so then I think to be honest it lasted for I'd say literally until we've had Reggie where I'm now in such a good place for the last nine months I've been the happiest I've ever been I've kind of made a bit of a switch in my own career as well where I really feel like I kind of know who I am in the industry and it's just
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
It's just nice to be your authentic self within you and then also on your platform. I think when there's two different versions of you, you and then the person people see on social media, it becomes really difficult.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
all I want to be is a housewife you see so all you want to be is a housewife all I want to be I've always all I've said when we met he was like what do you want to do I was like I want to be a housewife housewife content is great content I said that housewife content like you know those videos they do where people restock in their fridge I love them oh yeah you watch them you watch those videos so satisfying and I'm like no one no one's fridge looks like that but I'll take it I'm here for it
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
Because I heard it and I was like, what the fuck is this?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
I'd love it if our fridge looked like that. If I came home, not that I go out to work anymore, I'm always home.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
If I came into the kitchen, I'd love that.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
Diet cokes, aesthetically stacked, left to right.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
But it was a weird loophole because it was like, right, is this heavy petting? And they were like, they made up the rules.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
Yeah.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
You guys have got some great fridges.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
Just get in the fridge.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
Take out the leftovers.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
I was just going to wear a t-shirt today, but I don't know what I will wear.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
This is a really thin hoodie and I've just got a vest underneath and I've been quite warm today.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
that's fine yeah that's insane um where are we a breed because as soon as it gets a bit hot we get so excited like people take like in the garden they do barbecues they have their top off it can be like oh my gosh 15 degrees and people got their tops off would you move to america rewind a couple years yeah we would have loved to but now you're here oh because of your kid you're not gonna leave your family when you have a kid yeah and i don't know about going to like america with a kid i don't know like you just see so many things happening
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
No. Because there's those people. In London.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
It was actually, yeah. I mean, in my eyes, it's not clean.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
I did smoke when I was on the show. And I'd say to all the Americans, I was like, I really fancy a fag. They were like, yo, didn't realize you were like that. And I was like, oh. I was shocked right now.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
Never heard that, ever. Because obviously that word for you guys means it's quite a derogatory. It's quite like, oh God, that's a big word. But no, for us, because we.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
No, I think you guys can cut that as far as... I think... I don't know. We'll have to... We'll have to... I don't... The UK is four countries, right?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
Maybe, yeah.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
Yeah, maybe. Yeah, because that... That's got to be where it came from.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
oh my gosh like does anyone here say oh my gosh no uh yeah maybe yeah no we definitely do swear a bit more and it's just like quite normal it's like growing up we would have the washing method we wouldn't like to swear growing up like i don't like i'd have like a jar if i swore or not swore but like crap would be like crap would be like if i said crap but oh my god you can't like that's swearing
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
You actually washed your mouth out with soap? Yes. I was just the empty threat for me. I didn't think... No, I actually did it. I actually had to do it once. It was like morbid. What's it like?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
enlighten me don't ask me honestly I'm clueless so the UK is the United Kingdom which has four countries in Northern Ireland Scotland Wales and England so they're all run by their own governments in a sense but essentially England does have a lot more influence over it so
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
they're not far from each other like to drive home to my family um in wales it's like three hours um that's really close yeah so it's well it's quite close um so yeah you're from obviously wales and no you're from england am i am i from wales but there's not really like that much difference like i also don't sound welsh if i was actual true welsh yeah do you think we sound different
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
no i think you guys sound the same i think you sound the same i don't i don't have like a good ear for it yeah i'm like a fake welsh because we live quite close to we live quite close to england and also growing up my dad was in the army so he was very well spoken um and my mom was quite well spoken as well so we didn't really have much of a welsh like influence on the accent but like some wales is known for not being well spoken
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
So if I was speaking Welsh, I'd speak a bit more like this. Everything would be a little bit deeper. So everything's a little bit more funny. And you kind of accentuate the end of words. But yeah, that's not how I speak. Oh, yeah. I heard a difference there. It's a lot funnier. So it's a bit like that. I'm Welsh. How are we doing? You all right? Nice to meet you both.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
Are we having a nice chat today or what? That sounds kind of Irish. Yeah. It sounds more like Irish to me. It's a very nice accent. Like some of my mates. Like you're Merida.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
No.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
Yeah, no, we really weren't. We're just talking about the differences between our countries.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
I love that. Yeah, no, I didn't take it too well.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
it gave me a shock to me um well both of us actually yeah because i i because we hadn't spoken about and i didn't really know what's going on i think it was a lot of like just i felt really out of control i felt like a bit like i felt like i was in the right place in my career for the time to have a baby and it just didn't go down well my brain just wanted to accept it but it couldn't it was like what's gonna get just a lot of uncertainties i remember i spoke to my dad and he was like this will be the best thing that's ever happened to you and i was like what
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
processed everything i'm very much a person where i don't bury stuff i can't like everything comes out and sometimes that's a really good thing but sometimes it's it's a negative you know when mc's everything and it's out in the open and that was one of that's that was a situation where i could have just buried it and gone oh amazing that's great but i was like i can't hide this i was i'm gonna have to tell you exactly how i'm feeling and i think for me i was not in the again i was still not really at a place where i was happy in myself financially as well it was a few different things going on and i was like i was scared about having a baby because i was like well i
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
you know, have this kind of problem with mental health sometimes. And how am I going to be a good dad when I can't even look after myself in a weird way? And then I remember my dad, um, was to be told my mom, my friend, my mom kind of cry. And I was like, Oh mom, it's all over. She was like, it's fine. Everything's gonna be okay.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
I spoke to my dad and he was like, it's going to be the best thing that's ever happened to you. And it has like that. I don't know just that boy has changed my life and I know people say that it does but I can't even explain how much happier and just content it's not even just happier it's like life stops becoming about you in the best way possible.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
Like you still work on yourself and you still do stuff, but it's not no longer like you put stuff into context. You're like, that stuff doesn't matter anymore. That's not important. You know what's important. Um, so like in a weird way, I'm really glad that I did react in that way because I think then by the time I had the baby, I was so ready. Yeah.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
I think some guys hold it in and they're like, yeah, I'm fine. And then everything comes out when they've had the baby. But by the time we had him, I was like, yeah, this is, I'm so excited. I just had,
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
Yeah, I was. That first week was just like, oh, Christ. Panic.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
That was obviously not going to happen.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
No, I think unless you're, like... Religious. Religious, but no, it's not really a thing. So most people here have kids before they get married? Yeah. I mean, you can go either way. I mean, like, for Em, you've always said...
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
Obviously, they want the drama, and they don't want you to fully dive into it and do nothing, because essentially then they get no entertainment. But, like, just the actual premise of the show, I feel like I was at a point in my life where I actually needed it, because I was in a bit of a...
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
four between them oh wow okay two each yeah okay they're both really happy now they've got their partners and they're gonna be with them for the rest of their life and okay worked out for the best and so both my mom and dad are so happy with with who they're with and so for you you probably are afraid of marriage since you saw how many divorces went on in your family
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
They said you can't stand. I said, at no point am I leaving her alone. She can't even look after herself right now, let alone a baby. She's going to have to physically remove me from this hospital.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
Uh, not, not even, not really that. I think I've gone the other way. Like that's when I say going back to what I said on the show, like me wanting to make sure the person I'm with is the person I'm with for the rest of my life. It's going the other way and being like, well, I don't want a divorce. Yeah.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
you know do the kids first and then they can you know be the flower boys and girls at the wedding so it's even better yeah like I think there's no there's no rush for us and I think you know it does the most comment like the biggest comment anytime you post anything I could literally I could literally post something about the complete opposite Pokemon cards yeah someone already commented when are you going to post and I'm like this video is about Pokemon what stop just stop I think it's sweet it's fine though it's sweet because it shows people invested in our relationship and you know I can't I can't fault that at all
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
you guys should take that step they think it's a bigger decision i agree the baby is much much bigger like in my eyes she is my wife and i know we're gonna i'm gonna can i just say i've never heard those words come out i was sometimes referred but when people i'm having palpitations right now if like i don't know like if i say my girlfriend it sounds a bit weird like if i'm not speaking to someone like like an insurance person they're like oh my wife i'll say my wife or my i wouldn't say my girlfriend it sounds weird
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
Oh, yeah, I'll say partner.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
I call you the missus.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
You really did enjoy pregnancy.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
And you look like. You just look good.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
Oh, yes, because pants here are underwear. We don't call them pants, yeah. Pants are like boxers. Yeah, underwear. And then trousers. All these jeans, but trousers are trousers, yeah. And you guys just put everything in the pants category, and I don't like it. Like, what would you call joggers? Like, tracksuit bottoms.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
Wait, I just heard that was fake.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
The bad people that have said, oh, it wasn't.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
But the dish of fish and chips, you know. Did you have skinny chips?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
Also, the fat ones are chips. Fries are thin. Would you call a fat fry a fry or a chip?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
yeah i think you guys i think you guys have got it all wrong yeah i think yeah and even um even like a what do you guys call cookies biscuits here right uh well if it's a cookie we call it a cookie yeah if it's like chocolate chips it's a cookie so like an oreo would be a biscuit yeah
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
but like a cookie so like a chocolate chip cookie would be a cookie so we just have i think what we do is in british we categorize things more you guys just have a plain label like cookies would be biscuits you guys are you guys are lazy that's what i think it is soda yeah yeah like we we call them by their names so like i can have a coke or can have a sprite but you'll just say soda right
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
No, it's called epididymial hypertension. That's the official name of it. And it's basically when, if you've like, been aroused if you've been aroused and come close to climaxing a few times but haven't it builds up in like this area and it causes a lot of pain I was like dry retching the toilet like I was I had my back to it I couldn't walk on the show or was this after the show no no
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
Actually, do you know what? That's quite a weird thing. Yeah, because I'm just so used to that. Because if one of us, if we go up and order.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
They'd never turn to us. Let's say I was ordering. They'd never turn to us and say, I want what you want.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
They would just treat you as one customer if you're together.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
Yeah, definitely.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
and i'm like no oh my god he used to make me do that wait you would make her wait wait hold on what happened no no because it was nearly a deal breaker for me it was at the start of our relationship i didn't have i didn't have much money i didn't i haven't no it actually makes you sick i didn't have much money before the show i literally was a delivery driver i was like i didn't have much money so when we got with them i was very used to like i'll pay you pay half and half
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
and um yeah well you're lucky now and i would just be like just give me the bill but it was for some stuff that i like looking back at it now i'd be like we get mcdonald's and i'd be like six pound each i'd be like do you want to transfer me six pound i hate that i hate that yeah no i don't i don't like it i don't like it either like we moved on from that yeah i know we moved on from that and now i've got who pays your bills me
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
it was on the show i had to speak to the doctors and they pulled me out and they said right we're gonna have to take you off the show because we have to do a scan to check it's not anything worse and i was like i know what it is it's not it's nothing like cancerous it's not that i was like i just need to you know and they were like okay so i i had to have a sit down conversation with like the the exec producers and the doctor and be like what should we do here i'm like well you just need to let me let me run but that was that yeah did that literally fix it
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
It was a very big bill. I've messed up the energy. I didn't give them the meter readings, long story short.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
It's a bad... It's a bad bill. So I was like, Emma, maybe we should have this one. Yeah, so there we go. Certain things, but McDonald's, I'd get the McDonald's now. Wow, that's amazing.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
Thank you, mate.
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Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
It's like a separate room. I don't know how to describe it.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
Yep, it's definitely working.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
What is that?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
And you took a puff of laughing gas. I think at some hospitals they would.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
I was like, it's definitely working. I did it and I was like, yep, working.
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Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
labour would be by the way like you just crazy like no one actually prepares you well sorry I was gonna say the things because obviously we had we had the podcast which kind of was preparing us for pregnancy we had all these um like doonas we had experts like midwives come on and I think what you said is nothing can prepare you for when it happens it's just like yeah everything goes I mean everything you've learned just you're like no I just need to survive um so I think we're into like hour 20 by now something like crazy like that more than that babe
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Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
Oh, definitely.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
Yeah, it did. So that's our old life now.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
No, we found out after where he was lodged. It didn't tell us at the time, but where he was kind of lodged down, Reggie's head was kind of stuck. I think that's what was causing him that pain. Because essentially, Em's body, from what they told me in the reports, Em's body was trying to push him out, but something was stopping him. So you were constantly just stuck in that weird state of life.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
No, it's a real thing.
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Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
Oh, it was horrible. Like for me, I was just trying to be as like strong. I wanted to be like her rock. So I didn't show any emotion when I was with her, but I'd go out in the corridor, ring my mum and just cry my eyes out. I'm an emotional kid, very sensitive. So I was just trying to keep it all together for her because I was like, I need to show strength for her. But I was just, I was in bits.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
Just seeing her in that much pain, I've never ever like...
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
Yeah, I got special tablets.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
She gave me some special big blue tablets and I took them before bed.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
like this um so you had to do some breath work with me like i've never done breath work before that was like my thoughts i do breath work a lot on myself so i was like right we're gonna do some breath work um and eventually you calm down but that that was horrible yeah because like and then there's one thing that i've had loads of panic attacks just over the years and i know how to deal with them myself when someone you love's having one you're like i just i just want to take everything away from it i would i generally would have taken all that pain away from it and i would have had it on myself yeah um but yeah it was just but it's so weird how oh look on karen karen
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
No, they were Viagra. They were just helpers.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
Yeah, it didn't really end there. And that's when they said, I was saying earlier about men not being able to stay. That's when they turned to me and they said, oh, you can't.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
They said, you can't stay. And I said, at no point am I leaving her alone. One, like she can't even look after herself right now, let alone a baby. She's a new mum.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
I don't know what it was. I think it was just like really strong Nurofen and it just like numbed me. It put me to sleep.
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yeah yeah he was like you have to remove it i wasn't i wasn't leaving because i was just like the state she was in i was like i'm not leaving her i was like i think it's mad that you that you know maybe if like if it had been a bit easier and and maybe number two or three and you're like that's fine you can go do you want me in that case but in the state she was in to turn around to me and say oh by the way leave like leave so she can be on her own
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Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
well it's impossible for a woman that just had a c-section to do anything take care of the baby who's gonna take care of the baby if if he's gone you're by yourself what what's the what's the plan i don't understand it's it's a very weird system and then the kind of like cubicle bits are like really close together it's just like separated by a uh just like a curtain so you can hear a baby's crying
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Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
You said that? She didn't actually say that. I was like, babe, you can't say that.
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Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
Not really. I didn't really want to be in a relationship. I just wanted to kind of build a platform. I knew that I wanted to I suppose I wanted to start doing, I used to do music, so I wanted to kind of use that platform to push my music. So I was like, okay, this would be a great opportunity for me.
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Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
yeah that was the other thing it's almost weird to end with an emergency cesarean it's just like all of that i cannot we just wanted to leave and they wouldn't let us leave i know because the nhs is massively overrun once the baby's born you're not that urgent so you know yeah blood tests and stuff they'll take as long as it needs to because they're focusing on other areas which is i get that but like we were like can't we just come back and do the blood so actually we just want to go home the three of us just want to leave this stressful environment and
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Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
Did the nurses help?
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Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
The mom was still doing all that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, the dad can visit between a certain visiting hours, but then in the early morning and in the night, the dad has to go. Yeah.
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Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
But I didn't think I'm gonna get in a relationship because I thought I've got too much emotional baggage. I don't wanna deal with that. Don't think I could commit to someone. And obviously just- But I was persistent.
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Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
Oh, let's go. Honestly, I told her, I was like, right, you stay in bed. I was like, I've got this. I was like, I'm going to handle everything. I was like, you stay in bed with baby.
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Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
Yes, I do know. I've been washing clothes for long. I honestly have been washing clothes for longer than you. I don't know how many times you have to, you shrink my clothes, you make him smell and you put blue.
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Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
The other day, we had a white wash on, and I see two very dark blue bits of clothing, and I'm like, they shouldn't be in there.
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Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
No, but you shouldn't be in there. Either way, I told her to stay. I was like, I've got this downstairs. It's fine. And I quite enjoyed it, because normally she's on my case about everything.
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Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
so I was like for once I'll just do what I want downstairs and it was clean it was it was well kept and then all of a sudden she started getting up and I was like whoa no no stay this is my area now I was like you stay in bed but you just didn't trust that I could no you you took it right like the first week you were very you didn't really do much at all yeah and you were very much in bed a lot of times yeah but no postpartum in general I loved it and it was nice just you know in our bubble like it was great it's just crazy I remember the first time we brought him back and just being like we've got this
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Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
thing now that we need to keep alive look after him and it was just so crazy i remember the first night he was when he was in our room and we were all sleeping and i woke up to him crying i was like oh my god what is that your body's just not used to it and now you wake up you know it's just reggie but at first i was like oh my god what's happening it was crazy yeah even just like it's so quick like questions never really get answered until you go through it yourself but just like how do you know when to feed them how do you know when they're hungry like you just you just don't know the basics really do you you kind of just gotta wing it
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Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
We're going to be prepped for second baby. I feel like we've, I think we got into our swing like month two where everything just felt quite easy. And I was like, Oh, how did I, you know, you look back and think, how did I even not ever know this? It's just so simple now. Like looking after him now, it obviously goes to different stages.
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Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
Like you, she was like none of the wiser. Cause then was just like there. Yeah. I'm ready to go for me. I was in the interview room, like chatting about like my parents, divorce, like loads of things like trauma. At one point they turned the camera off. They were like, we don't want to hear this. Cause I was in there crying and stuff.
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Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
When we got into weaning, we were like, what do we do?
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Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
Yes.
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Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
Yeah, everyone says this. With baby two, you're like, just eat what you want.
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Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
When you're a baby one, you do everything with a book. I Googled a lot. I stopped doing it.
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Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
I was a problem. Reggie had a lot of, like, reflux issues, so, like, we had to... He was having a lot of problems. He had to take him to the osteopath, the paediatrician quite a few times to take him on, like, different formulas.
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Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
I think a lot of people are. That was probably really painful.
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Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
Cause I generally, I saw someone that I really want to spend the rest of my life with. And I was like, I don't want to, I have a bit of a stick thing against like reality couples. Cause you see so many of them come and go and they're just like, they'll come from a show and they'll stay together for like three months. They'll break up. I didn't want to be that.
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Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
Did you miss the baby stage?
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Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
we always look we always look at like look at pictures of him and i think you forget how much they grow and i look at pictures i'm like oh my god you were so small how big was he he was six five pounds he was so small and it's like now he's like becoming this little boy and i look at pictures i'm like you you're not a little no and his hands are so big his feet oh
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Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
And I was like, if I'm going to leave now with this person, I want it to be for the rest of my life. I was like, I'm either all or nothing. So I was like, right, I'm going to do this work on the show. Cause they got therapists there as well. So I was like, it's free therapy. I was like, may as well do it.
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Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
cute yeah it's gonna be really fun when he starts walking that's my favorite time because here he is like he assisted like on the walker like he'll be flying around he loves to stand up so he'll constantly use things like he'll come up to me and use my leg to stand like to stand himself up he's like he's in his kind of slightly chaotic period now yeah like before we just put him down he'd lie there and now he's like i want to get up i want to move i want to touch everything grab everything eat everything put everything in my mouth yes i love it though but it's like
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Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
constantly now we're in the stage like can't take our eyes off him for a split second because it's like all of a sudden you look away you look back and he's like stood up on something you're like whoa how'd you get there easy so did you guys come from big families
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Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
uh yeah i did i mean i'm a kind of weirdly very functional loving family but a really dysfunctional family at the same time so i've got two i got brother stepbrother stepsister two sisters a foster sister it's a very big family like six parents because of all the divorces okay
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Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
but like now it's everyone's with their rightful partner in my eyes but we all still kind of work as a family anyway it's like all my siblings are coming up to see us soon and we're a very close family so I was yeah we lived in quite a small house shared a bedroom even your step mum and step dad class themselves as Reggie's grandparents like it's so cute yeah they are because you know they both raised me and it's like it's a weirdly dysfunctional family but yeah I'm a massive massive family person is that the same for you as well in a way
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Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. to hear about all your childhood no but I didn't I didn't see it it's more about like the behind the scenes stuff like we'd just be chatting things through but there'd be times where they're like right I don't think we can air this you know chatting about actual deeper stuff but yeah here we are nearly five years later here we are yeah
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Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
you've got to be willing to give a lot like my mum did it for quite a few years and then she just stopped because it was too much on her emotionally yeah and I said mum like you know you're not as young as you once were I was like you know just chill it's okay so you've done your part in a way you know you've helped out as much as you can and your mum still obviously does it my mum still does it yeah yeah she's going strong no way so I'm sure it was probably very stressful on your parents relationship yeah it's pretty well they divorced well not divorced but separated
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Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
Oh, definitely. Yeah.
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Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
I'd even push a four, you know, I'd do four. Okay, well. We adopt the child, I don't know. Yeah, yeah. I just like a big family and I like having... I'd be happy with three and a dog.
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Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
we did initially set a grade this year to start trying but I think we're gonna wait till the year after I've got a lot of things I want to like kind of do with my career and I want to like I want to kind of start getting those things done by the time I have baby number two because I think you know some people some people have babies and I think they get a bit like resentful at the babies because oh you stopped me from doing this this because it's obviously a lot of your time um so like we'd never be like that
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Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
No, I'm not saying that. I'm just saying people do. Because sometimes you put the baby first. Of course you do. They are first priority.
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Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
well reggie's not allowed to date so i don't think we're gonna ever have that conversation i'm gonna be the only woman he ever loves yeah so well that settles it then great awesome i'd speak to him i think i'll always teach him to respect women and that's that's the main main thing is he needs to be a gentleman and he's respect women he needs to be what i probably wasn't in my like earlier years i was always respectful i was always a nice kid but i maybe wasn't the best um
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Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
So that's the first thing he's going to learn. I don't want him to be like I was. I want him to be... I love him to find someone that he wants, like you guys. Find someone and just have that kind of like... Pure. Pure, just love. And I think it teaches you... I think nowadays a lot of people give up on relationships without wanting to put the work in.
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Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
We've gone through ups and downs and we've had difficult moments, but some people just go, right, well, that's it. I think you need to work. And relationships are work. And some people don't...
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Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
like hearing that they're like oh no but if it's love it's supposed to be just easy no it's not it's difficult like yeah you've got to work on communication you've got to work on growing together rather than growing separately and i think i the amount i've learned from growing with you about even just myself is amazing and i would have learned without being with you so i think like for reggie i'd love for him reggie i just want him to to learn i think you learn a lot through a relationship and working out relationships i think it's good for people that's beautiful oh that was really
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Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
well said cam yeah well thank you so much for coming on the show where is the best place people can connect with you guys on online or social media instagram tiktok snapchat as well oh yeah and we're making a comeback to youtube there we go next month we've got some cool kind of concepts going on quite different to what we normally do so yeah cam and m channel on youtube and then both our instagrams tiktok snapchats
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Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
We're going to go eat some Indian food.
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Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
You can watch some episodes, but I don't know, it's a weird thing because people keep...
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Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
Yeah, you watch it, but he's not... If you watch that, he's going to be like... But it's our love story, though. Yeah, but there's some scenes of me in the shower. You know, I just don't know. You can't watch that.
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Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
Instead of laughing. Episode 9 and 10, you can watch that. That's nice and cute. That's romantic. Episode 9. But the first part, he doesn't want to be watching Mummy and Daddy...
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Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
I mean, you know that they can't show that, but they can watch it. So people can watch it, but they can't obviously hear it on TV.
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Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
No, I think that's all part of it. That's part of our journey. And that's part of me learning and going through the motions of getting to where we are now. I think like when he, because it's going to be a point where he probably does watch it on his own back. I'm going to explain to him, you know. He will watch it. Yeah, he probably, yeah.
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Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
Him and his little friends are going to be like, let's watch your mom and dad. Yeah. Hopefully it's just Netflix deleted by then. It's deleted by then. But, you know, I'll explain to him that was a point in your mummy and daddy's life. You know, we're not obviously those people now, but that was, you know, to get to where we are.
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Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
I think, you know, I'm not that person anymore and you were that person.
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Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
We're so different. We're a lot more chill.
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Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
Well, we're mum and dad now. Yeah, we've matured a lot. Go just have a conversation with them and let them know that that's, yeah, maybe just don't watch episode three.
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Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
like don't we pay in like that and tax we pay in other ways yeah we do we pay a hell of a lot it's a bit of a big topic the nhs is uh yeah really yeah because like some of the uk won it some of the uk kind of doubt it's a bit of a i don't know enough about it to speak on it but oh so it's kind of a controversial thing a little bit yeah with like the high like the how high taxes are here
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Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
No, it's fine. I'm happy to say that when she told me, I took it really badly. Oh, you did?
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Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
Yeah, it was... Yeah, it was horrible, but... Yeah, it's a weird one, because I was like... I kind of put it to the back of my mind, but you sometimes think, like, it could be Reggie's brother or sister, and it's a weird thought to think...
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Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
Gosh.
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Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
oh my gosh yeah that's pretty scary yeah really scary yeah and so this was early on in your relationship yeah yeah i think like our relationship wasn't it wasn't in the it wasn't in the best of places i think you know when you come off a reality show i get why a lot of couples break up because it's it's hard it's intense you've got you know we went from three thousand five thousand followers to you know one point something million it's a lot like the brain isn't supposed to manage that you're not meant to go through that and i think then
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Emily Miller & Cam Holmes on life after Too Hot to Handle, getting married, and UK vs. USA
we'd be going to events we'd have all this kind of like attention instant gratification yeah and then things started to kind of dip off as you would as as as you would you know you come off a show you have the height and then it dips a bit yeah and i think i definitely struggled with that i didn't really know how to kind of like validate myself and i was like oh yeah everything's wrong and i think we went through a bit of just a rough patch we didn't communicate as much as we should do i was quite a shit just person i think i was not very good at communicating and i wasn't