Calley Means

In the first half of the show, we talked to Callie Means, who's an advisor to RFK Jr. And Callie told us that Americans will agree on much of what he is saying, that as a population, we are sicker more often than we should be for longer than we should be. What do you think of the points that he makes?

Let's say that RFK is confirmed and he is the new leader. He is the new head of the Department of Health and Human Services. What does he want to do to that agency? What has he said?

Let's say that RFK is confirmed and he is the new leader. He is the new head of the Department of Health and Human Services. What does he want to do to that agency? What has he said?

Let's say that RFK is confirmed and he is the new leader. He is the new head of the Department of Health and Human Services. What does he want to do to that agency? What has he said?

How challenging will it be to make reforms within the food system?

How challenging will it be to make reforms within the food system?

How challenging will it be to make reforms within the food system?

Helena Bottomiller-Evich of the Food Fix newsletter. Miles Bryan produced today's show. Jolie Myers edited. Andrea Christen's daughter and Rob Byers engineered. And Laura Bullard is our fact checker. I'm Noelle King. It's Today Explained.

Helena Bottomiller-Evich of the Food Fix newsletter. Miles Bryan produced today's show. Jolie Myers edited. Andrea Christen's daughter and Rob Byers engineered. And Laura Bullard is our fact checker. I'm Noelle King. It's Today Explained.

Helena Bottomiller-Evich of the Food Fix newsletter. Miles Bryan produced today's show. Jolie Myers edited. Andrea Christen's daughter and Rob Byers engineered. And Laura Bullard is our fact checker. I'm Noelle King. It's Today Explained.

Uh, initially what I saw is the discussions you were having about ultra processed food, not being part of the solution light, which I think is very important part is more of a scientific thing. So that's when I initially, about a month ago, I mean, there's definitely been frankly more personal things, which we can talk about as much as we want.

Uh, initially what I saw is the discussions you were having about ultra processed food, not being part of the solution light, which I think is very important part is more of a scientific thing. So that's when I initially, about a month ago, I mean, there's definitely been frankly more personal things, which we can talk about as much as we want.

Uh, initially what I saw is the discussions you were having about ultra processed food, not being part of the solution light, which I think is very important part is more of a scientific thing. So that's when I initially, about a month ago, I mean, there's definitely been frankly more personal things, which we can talk about as much as we want.

I think the science part is interesting too, but I hit you up before seeing a lot of the personal attacks still wanted to do this. I mean, I think a lot of people are skeptical. Um, this was your idea to engage on the right. And I've been chatting with Mary about various things in good faith, I think. But yes, their personal attacks are what it is. We can talk about that as much as you want.

I think the science part is interesting too, but I hit you up before seeing a lot of the personal attacks still wanted to do this. I mean, I think a lot of people are skeptical. Um, this was your idea to engage on the right. And I've been chatting with Mary about various things in good faith, I think. But yes, their personal attacks are what it is. We can talk about that as much as you want.

I think the science part is interesting too, but I hit you up before seeing a lot of the personal attacks still wanted to do this. I mean, I think a lot of people are skeptical. Um, this was your idea to engage on the right. And I've been chatting with Mary about various things in good faith, I think. But yes, their personal attacks are what it is. We can talk about that as much as you want.

Okay, okay. But I think there's a massive moment in the country right now where I think we probably all agree that there's a historic opportunity to maybe reset the agenda on health. I think there's great opportunity.

Okay, okay. But I think there's a massive moment in the country right now where I think we probably all agree that there's a historic opportunity to maybe reset the agenda on health. I think there's great opportunity.

Okay, okay. But I think there's a massive moment in the country right now where I think we probably all agree that there's a historic opportunity to maybe reset the agenda on health. I think there's great opportunity.

Yeah, I think there's great opportunity and great cynicism.