Calley Means

I'm going to push just a little bit further on this, Kelly, because there are statements of fact that you are making. Yes. And they will pass a fact check. It's it's the idea that pharmaceutical companies want to keep us sick. I didn't say that. Companies want to keep us.

Well, the economic incentive is the want. I mean, it's America. It's a capitalist society.

Well, the economic incentive is the want. I mean, it's America. It's a capitalist society.

Well, the economic incentive is the want. I mean, it's America. It's a capitalist society.

What are their motivations?

What are their motivations?

What are their motivations?

You're saying there is an economic incentive.

You're saying there is an economic incentive.

You're saying there is an economic incentive.

I think that many people would agree with you that when there is money involved, the incentives to grow, to grow the company can lead to perverse outcomes like a lot of sick Americans. You are the founder of a company that sells, among other things, supplements, fitness classes, fitness equipment. I was on this morning. You have some good sales.

I think that many people would agree with you that when there is money involved, the incentives to grow, to grow the company can lead to perverse outcomes like a lot of sick Americans. You are the founder of a company that sells, among other things, supplements, fitness classes, fitness equipment. I was on this morning. You have some good sales.

I think that many people would agree with you that when there is money involved, the incentives to grow, to grow the company can lead to perverse outcomes like a lot of sick Americans. You are the founder of a company that sells, among other things, supplements, fitness classes, fitness equipment. I was on this morning. You have some good sales.

You personally have an economic incentive in this, too. And I wonder, is there any part of you that thinks maybe I should just be the guy that says the thing but not try to make money off it?

You personally have an economic incentive in this, too. And I wonder, is there any part of you that thinks maybe I should just be the guy that says the thing but not try to make money off it?

You personally have an economic incentive in this, too. And I wonder, is there any part of you that thinks maybe I should just be the guy that says the thing but not try to make money off it?

And you're not making any profit?

And you're not making any profit?

And you're not making any profit?

Excuse me.