Bryan Johnson
Appearances
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
All-In Live from Austin: Colin and Samir, Chris Williamson, and Bryan Johnson
Dubbing stuff.
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
All-In Live from Austin: Colin and Samir, Chris Williamson, and Bryan Johnson
It's three hours and 12 minutes, yes.
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
All-In Live from Austin: Colin and Samir, Chris Williamson, and Bryan Johnson
Yeah.
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
All-In Live from Austin: Colin and Samir, Chris Williamson, and Bryan Johnson
Yeah, last week's episode.
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
All-In Live from Austin: Colin and Samir, Chris Williamson, and Bryan Johnson
We do get along, yeah, we're friends.
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
All-In Live from Austin: Colin and Samir, Chris Williamson, and Bryan Johnson
Jason, what is this?
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
All-In Live from Austin: Colin and Samir, Chris Williamson, and Bryan Johnson
What's going to happen if I chew on it?
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
All-In Live from Austin: Colin and Samir, Chris Williamson, and Bryan Johnson
I don't know if this fits in the protocol.
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
All-In Live from Austin: Colin and Samir, Chris Williamson, and Bryan Johnson
All right. Should I do it? Wait, hold on. Before you say something, Don't Die is in your hands. Do I chew on it?
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
All-In Live from Austin: Colin and Samir, Chris Williamson, and Bryan Johnson
Do it. No. Give it a shot.
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
All-In Live from Austin: Colin and Samir, Chris Williamson, and Bryan Johnson
Yeah. Do you want the cigar?
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
All-In Live from Austin: Colin and Samir, Chris Williamson, and Bryan Johnson
You did ketamine recently, didn't you, Brian? I did, yeah. So we built a brain interface at my company, Kernel. We were trying to build a wearable fMRI. And we had this question, what happens when? You know, there's like when you take an SSRI or when you take ketamine. And so, yeah, I did a...
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
All-In Live from Austin: Colin and Samir, Chris Williamson, and Bryan Johnson
a dose, intramuscular dose, and we measured my brain 30 days before the ketamine, during ketamine, and then for 10 days afterwards.
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
All-In Live from Austin: Colin and Samir, Chris Williamson, and Bryan Johnson
We did the max FDA allowed amount.
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
All-In Live from Austin: Colin and Samir, Chris Williamson, and Bryan Johnson
No, we had an IRB. We had it approved ethically. And what we saw, so... Sorry, just real quick.
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
All-In Live from Austin: Colin and Samir, Chris Williamson, and Bryan Johnson
No, first time.
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
All-In Live from Austin: Colin and Samir, Chris Williamson, and Bryan Johnson
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
All-In Live from Austin: Colin and Samir, Chris Williamson, and Bryan Johnson
Thank you. Thank you.
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
All-In Live from Austin: Colin and Samir, Chris Williamson, and Bryan Johnson
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
All-In Live from Austin: Colin and Samir, Chris Williamson, and Bryan Johnson
Ah, yes. So I agree, Jason. We can cut it, but I agree. So we just launched a new endeavor called Don't Die Certified, and we're testing foods.
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
All-In Live from Austin: Colin and Samir, Chris Williamson, and Bryan Johnson
Let's go. Baby foods, pet foods, all packaged foods. And we got the early results back.
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
All-In Live from Austin: Colin and Samir, Chris Williamson, and Bryan Johnson
We do. How bad is it? Worse than you think.
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
All-In Live from Austin: Colin and Samir, Chris Williamson, and Bryan Johnson
Yeah, so we're doing heavy metals. Heavy metals. Before heavy metals, yeah, but then we're doing glyphosate, some other agrochemicals, and then maybe a few phthalates.
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
All-In Live from Austin: Colin and Samir, Chris Williamson, and Bryan Johnson
So we, okay, we got results back from- Have you done any phthalates?
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
All-In Live from Austin: Colin and Samir, Chris Williamson, and Bryan Johnson
Yes, we're doing that too. So we'll probably have it later. There's less evidence around that.
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
All-In Live from Austin: Colin and Samir, Chris Williamson, and Bryan Johnson
But yes, the cool model we're doing is if you can, you find your food, go to the website. We'll launch this next week. Yeah. Find your food and say, I want this tested. So you can then put up the money. If you get enough money so it-
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
All-In Live from Austin: Colin and Samir, Chris Williamson, and Bryan Johnson
No, like 500 bucks.
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
All-In Live from Austin: Colin and Samir, Chris Williamson, and Bryan Johnson
Yeah, yeah. Oh, I'm doing 10.
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
All-In Live from Austin: Colin and Samir, Chris Williamson, and Bryan Johnson
Exactly.
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
All-In Live from Austin: Colin and Samir, Chris Williamson, and Bryan Johnson
Exactly. So then the test gets triggered, results come back, and then we go to the brand and we say, hey, come claim your product. So they then come back and say, all right, now you pay back the people who funded your tests. Like you should have been testing in the first place. So they're doing the work for you. So we want to do the food ohm in the U.S.
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
All-In Live from Austin: Colin and Samir, Chris Williamson, and Bryan Johnson
We want to test 20% of the foods that make up 80% of the U.S. diet. So then we can say on average, the average American consumes blank, you know, mercury per day or cadmium or whatever. So we tested a few of the things. We looked at diapers. there was a dangerously high level of glyphosate in diapers. For the cotton? Cotton, exactly.
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
All-In Live from Austin: Colin and Samir, Chris Williamson, and Bryan Johnson
Exactly. And then we also tested tampons. Which brands? High heavy metals.
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
All-In Live from Austin: Colin and Samir, Chris Williamson, and Bryan Johnson
Call them out right now. We can't yet. Okay, we got the test soon. Exactly. So we're going to reveal the first few ones, but dog food was really bad, which makes sense. Dogs have been living their shorter lives now. But yeah, once you start seeing this, it's really pretty.
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
All-In Live from Austin: Colin and Samir, Chris Williamson, and Bryan Johnson
Yeah, so again, to back you, Jason, on this. So Gerber, so there was a law passed in California that said baby food providers have to disclose heavy metals in their foods. So it went into effect January 1. And so we go to Gerber's website.
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
All-In Live from Austin: Colin and Samir, Chris Williamson, and Bryan Johnson
Yeah, I think the four. Four big. And so it's like, okay, so go to Gerber's website. I can't find heavy metals results anywhere. And then I realized my VPN's on, and I'm coming from a server outside of California. They've IP blocked. No way. Yep, California-only IP origination, and they hide it. And so this is what I'm saying. These companies... These are nefarious. It's really not good.
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
All-In Live from Austin: Colin and Samir, Chris Williamson, and Bryan Johnson
I think he is going to challenge status quo power. And I think that's going to create a lot of conflict and a lot of reconfigurations. I think it will refrag.
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
All-In Live from Austin: Colin and Samir, Chris Williamson, and Bryan Johnson
Yeah, I mean, the power laws are so clear. Sleep is, like, by far and away the biggest power law. Then exercise, number two. Diet, number three. And so it's just being consistent on those three things. And then once you get those three layers, you can go down other layers. But, like, what we've tried to do is we've tried to say anything which increases my speed of aging is a form of die.
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
All-In Live from Austin: Colin and Samir, Chris Williamson, and Bryan Johnson
So how do you eliminate that? And then we just started with the power laws. I start with zero all the way down and just, yep. Top three things for sleep? So the thing you want to do is you want to lower. So the key marker is lowering your resting heart rate before bed. That is the number. I'd say if you could optimize one marker in your entire life, it's that.
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
All-In Live from Austin: Colin and Samir, Chris Williamson, and Bryan Johnson
So before you go to bed tonight, look at a wearable or take your pulse. It's your resting heart rate. So tonight, let's just say you're at 55. So your goal of the next week or two is to try to get down to 50. The next month, 45. As you do that, so the way you drive it down is you have your final meal of the day at least two hours before bedtime.
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
All-In Live from Austin: Colin and Samir, Chris Williamson, and Bryan Johnson
So if you go to bed at 10, be done at 8, and then push it back an hour, you're like, hey, 30 minutes each day. And as you push it back every day, your heart rate is going to go down incrementally because your body has more time to digest. So then you also find that food you eat, like if you eat a big pasta or pizza or something, it will jack up the heart rate.
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
All-In Live from Austin: Colin and Samir, Chris Williamson, and Bryan Johnson
So mine right now is 44 beats per minute. So if I eat late in the day, if my last meal of the day is at noon, and I did that after like a few hundred experiments of like what optimizes my resting heart rate, If I have a big meal like at five or six, I'll be up by like low 50s. And that will take away about 30 to 40% of my sleep.
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
All-In Live from Austin: Colin and Samir, Chris Williamson, and Bryan Johnson
Actually, I'm okay. Yeah, my body's really adapted. So food is really a big one. And then two is wind down routine. So you need to calm yourself down. You can't have your phone up. You need to turn it off. Give yourself like 30 to 60 minutes. Decompress in the day.
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
All-In Live from Austin: Colin and Samir, Chris Williamson, and Bryan Johnson
Yeah.
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
All-In Live from Austin: Colin and Samir, Chris Williamson, and Bryan Johnson
And actually a book in hand. has probably the best evidence. Yeah, so it's what Chris was saying, right? It's like you can't do anything. So screen off, book in hand, spend even 10 minutes, and you'll be amazed at how much it'll calm you down.
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
All-In Live from Austin: Colin and Samir, Chris Williamson, and Bryan Johnson
sit down and read red rising or something by pierce brown and you go off to sleep dreaming about being exactly and you can and you can measure it by how much your heart rate goes up or down so you now have a quantitative benchmark every single day if you could peg that those habits uh regularity versus duration what's more important uh consistency is so important because your body tells time like a clock like when i was i did eight months of perfect sleep a hundred percent sleep every night to show i could do high quality sleep
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
All-In Live from Austin: Colin and Samir, Chris Williamson, and Bryan Johnson
Eight sleep and whoop.
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
All-In Live from Austin: Colin and Samir, Chris Williamson, and Bryan Johnson
No. I mean, they're all relative comparisons. They're not absolute. So just find one. They're all fine.
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
All-In Live from Austin: Colin and Samir, Chris Williamson, and Bryan Johnson
It's the biggest life improvement you can do, period. It's the best in performance, hence in drug. It is just better than anything on market. Be consistent because your deep sleep window happens in the first two hours of night. That's when the garbage trash collector comes through to pick up all the trash in your body. If you miss that window, you miss it. You miss the garbage trash collection.
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
All-In Live from Austin: Colin and Samir, Chris Williamson, and Bryan Johnson
That's why pick your bedtime and be consistent. Otherwise, you get junk accumulation.
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
All-In Live from Austin: Colin and Samir, Chris Williamson, and Bryan Johnson
I'm actually the happy police, right? Like, the shit I say, it makes you happy. People, they have this misconception that, like, staying up late and missing bedtime and drinking is happy. It's not. It is sad. It makes you depressed. And we have to be honest. Like, we think it's happy. It's not.
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
All-In Live from Austin: Colin and Samir, Chris Williamson, and Bryan Johnson
You know, I did it because my dad was experiencing cognitive decline, and he called me in a panic. And he said, I will do anything to save my consciousness. And so I did it for him. So the headlines was all about my son and me.
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
All-In Live from Austin: Colin and Samir, Chris Williamson, and Bryan Johnson
Yeah, that was the whole reason.
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
All-In Live from Austin: Colin and Samir, Chris Williamson, and Bryan Johnson
Yeah, so my dad called me. He's like, okay, I'm experiencing cognitive. So he was writing something for work. He walked away and he came back and it was a jumbled mess. And he's like, I am experiencing cognitive decline and I can't see it. He said, when I thought I would start like forgetting names or like missing keys, but like right there in front of me, I didn't see the jumbled mess.
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
All-In Live from Austin: Colin and Samir, Chris Williamson, and Bryan Johnson
So he called me, he's like, I'm panicking. And so I was like, dad, we're actually looking at this new evidence on these plasma infusions. I'm happy to give you a plasma if you want to try it. Like, we don't know if it's going to work or not. So then my son heard and he's like, I'm in, like we'll do a tri-generational thing. I'm like, great. It's a family activity.
Dhru Purohit Show
A Silent But Deadly Killer: How Poor Air Quality is a Driver of Chronic Disease and What We Can Do to Protect Ourselves Now
Yeah.
Dhru Purohit Show
A Silent But Deadly Killer: How Poor Air Quality is a Driver of Chronic Disease and What We Can Do to Protect Ourselves Now
Mm-hmm.
Dhru Purohit Show
A Silent But Deadly Killer: How Poor Air Quality is a Driver of Chronic Disease and What We Can Do to Protect Ourselves Now
Mm-hmm.
Dhru Purohit Show
A Silent But Deadly Killer: How Poor Air Quality is a Driver of Chronic Disease and What We Can Do to Protect Ourselves Now
It's delicious.
Honestly with Bari Weiss
How Not to Die in 2025
In many ways, I guess I've thought about this project in a way where, you know, when Amelia Earhart flew an airplane across the Atlantic. she demonstrated something that never had been done. And when the first person summited Everest, they also demonstrated something that had been done, the four minute mile.
Honestly with Bari Weiss
How Not to Die in 2025
And I wanted to, with sleep, I wanted to demonstrate something that no one had ever done, which is I wanted to demonstrate the world's best sleep score. So I did eight months of perfect sleep with a wearable. And so I basically just systematically went about doing hundreds of experiments, what produces perfect sleep. And I distilled it, and I had eight months of perfect sleep.
Honestly with Bari Weiss
How Not to Die in 2025
Now, for context, there are people who have these wearables. There are millions of people who have these wearables.
Honestly with Bari Weiss
How Not to Die in 2025
Many people have had these, and they haven't had a 100% score in their entire life. And so to get eight months continuously was a remarkable achievement. And so, yeah, after all these experimentations, I learned my chronotype. The time I do best at going to bed is 8.30 p.m., So other people do better at different times. You can do 8.30, 9.30, 10.30, 12, you know, choose your time.
Honestly with Bari Weiss
How Not to Die in 2025
It's not really important when, other than it's just consistent and you have certain life habits that precede that. So mine, I'm an early riser. I always have been. So my best time to go to bed is 8.30, but others do equally as well at 10 or 11.
Honestly with Bari Weiss
How Not to Die in 2025
I don't. And, you know, here's the funny thing is it's so painful to indulge. I just hate the thought. And so it has gone from a temptation to an abhorrence. I just can't even imagine doing it.
Honestly with Bari Weiss
How Not to Die in 2025
No. I mean, one, I've spent hundreds of thousands of dollars testing food. I know that chocolate is packed with heavy metals. I know that it has sugar. I know that it has some junk ingredients. I know when it goes into my body, it's going to accelerate my aging. I know it's going to negatively affect my sleep.
Honestly with Bari Weiss
How Not to Die in 2025
I know tomorrow I'm going to feel the deficiency in my sleep of having not slept as well. I just know the stream of consequences. No.
Honestly with Bari Weiss
How Not to Die in 2025
As a species, we accept our inevitable decay, decline, and death. I want to argue that the opposite should be true.
Honestly with Bari Weiss
How Not to Die in 2025
Yeah, so what I do actually is I try to be as least disruptive as possible. And so if I'm going to a guest's home, they'll typically be very thoughtful and say, what can I prepare for you? And I know they're thinking like, okay, this guy is super extra. Yeah. And I just say, don't worry about it. It's all good. Whatever you're eating, I will eat.
Honestly with Bari Weiss
How Not to Die in 2025
And so I'll go there, and whatever they have, I'll just pick out what I can. I'll pick out some fruits and vegetables, whatever. I'll put it on my plate, and I'll just nibble. Whatever time of day. So I'll eat at 5, 6, or 7. I'll just have a few small bites. So I have food on my plate. I'm putting food in my mouth. The conversation can flow. So I really try to not be disruptive.
Honestly with Bari Weiss
How Not to Die in 2025
I try not to say anything about anything. Like whatever they have is great. So I don't want to step on social norms and I don't want to create a big thing.
Honestly with Bari Weiss
How Not to Die in 2025
You're right. I mean, so, yeah, it's pretty challenging. I mean, what I've been doing is when I've gone on dates, I will go and say, hey, just a heads up. You know, like there's this social ritual where people get together, they put on their best face. They're like, hey, I'm like this amazing person. And then over time, their true you comes out.
Honestly with Bari Weiss
How Not to Die in 2025
And then by month six or month 12, it's like, ah, okay, this is who you are.
Honestly with Bari Weiss
How Not to Die in 2025
So I kind of say like, hey, like this is who I am. And here's 10 reasons why you're probably going to hate me. in some duration of time. And how does that go over, Brian? The very common response is, thank you. I really appreciate the transparency and honesty. This is so refreshingly upfront. And some will say, you're right. It just doesn't work with me. I really like this other lifestyle.
Honestly with Bari Weiss
How Not to Die in 2025
And others will be like, honestly, kind of cool, kind of badass. So I think it really does work because we all want this transparency in our lives. We all know it's going to come out at some point anyways. So why waste the time and pretend? So I think most people really appreciate it.
Honestly with Bari Weiss
How Not to Die in 2025
The reason we do these things is we pose this question that if the goal is to not die, how would one approach that problem as an engineering challenge? And so we said, okay, well, the body is, you know, 70 plus organs. You have your heart, brain, lungs, you know, kidney, liver, and all these different organ systems. So first you have to measure the biological age of every organ.
Honestly with Bari Weiss
How Not to Die in 2025
And so I'm chronologically 47 years old, but biologically my left ear is 64 years old. My heart is 37. My diaphragm is age 18. So organs age at different speeds. And so for example, my left ear is very old because I shot a lot of guns as a kid, exposing my left ear. I would tuck in my right ear and expose my left ear and I also listened to a lot of loud music.
Honestly with Bari Weiss
How Not to Die in 2025
And so between 4,000 and 12,000 Hertz, I'm basically deaf.
Honestly with Bari Weiss
How Not to Die in 2025
so once you have a baseline of the biological age of every organ in your body you can then say okay what is the scientific literature about reducing the age like can i make my left ear not 64 but 63 or 62 or 42 or 41 and so we've taken that approach across my entire body so everything you've listed listed off is a scientific evidence-based approach on how to reduce the
Honestly with Bari Weiss
How Not to Die in 2025
the biological age of the organs of my body. And so we're trying to get my body to be age 18 across the entire body, which right now is a really crazy endeavor. We're just not there yet, but that's what we're trying to systematically engineer.
Honestly with Bari Weiss
How Not to Die in 2025
Philosophically, I'm indifferent to where the idea comes from. It can be an ancient practice. It can be a new scientific study. It can come from anywhere. The only thing we care about is that it works and that we can measure it. So health is really built on folklore, antidotes, storytelling. I mean, that's how it's really been built. And what we're saying is that the power is a measurement.
Honestly with Bari Weiss
How Not to Die in 2025
Like, for example, if you look at a smartphone, a smartphone can't be built by storytelling. It's got to be built by rigorous precision in engineering and measurement. If you couldn't measure and you couldn't go through this quantitative process, there's no way you can build a smartphone that works. And the same approach is true with the body.
Honestly with Bari Weiss
How Not to Die in 2025
You can't go through a rigorous process in trying to de-age the entire body by telling pretty stories. You have to actually measure the cellular function. You have to look at the actual organ function. You have to see the biological systems. So the breakthrough with what we've done is I've become the most measured person in human history. Like we measure- That I think is true.
Honestly with Bari Weiss
How Not to Die in 2025
Yeah, we measure everything. And so if someone says, you know, like I have the following theory, we say, great, we're going to test the theory out and we're going to generate all the data. And so it's really very few things for life are going to survive without quantitative measurement.
Honestly with Bari Weiss
How Not to Die in 2025
Storytelling will always be a nice layer on society, but fundamentally powering society on a day-to-day basis, measurement is the workhorse.
Honestly with Bari Weiss
How Not to Die in 2025
I view myself more as an explorer, not a lab rat. I mean, so more in the vein of Ernest Shackleton or Magellan or Lewis and Clark or Armstrong. So I'm a person on the frontier trying to demonstrate a new possibility of human potential.
Honestly with Bari Weiss
How Not to Die in 2025
Yeah, this is at the core of what it means to be human.
Honestly with Bari Weiss
How Not to Die in 2025
so many more and a lot of people think this is unachievable and i want to say it is achievable and i'll give you some really simple ones you can do at home so this is not just a voyeuristic project of like some rich guy doing something that's inaccessible so that the best thing you can do in your life the number one most powerful drug is sleep and so it's not just you know get more sleep but i'll tell you the five things i would do for sleep
Honestly with Bari Weiss
How Not to Die in 2025
So one is remapping your identity that you are a professional sleeper, that you take sleep as seriously as you do your profession. It's that important, like same level. Number two is that your final meal of the day is at least two hours before bedtime, if not three, four, five, I do nine, 10 hours before bed. If you move your last meal a day back, you'll see your sleep scores soar.
Honestly with Bari Weiss
How Not to Die in 2025
So eat earlier and lighter. Number three is light in your environment matters a lot. So try to eliminate blues, like turn your screens off, turn, yeah, lights in the house that are blue. You want reds and amber lights. Four is consistency. The body loves routine. If you can give the body routine, it will perform really well. And so I try to go to bed within like five minutes of my bedtime.
Honestly with Bari Weiss
How Not to Die in 2025
Like 30 minutes is okay. Hours getting to be a bit too long, but try to be very precise. Four or five is have a wind down routine.
Honestly with Bari Weiss
How Not to Die in 2025
Your body needs to settle down at the end of the day when at the end of the day, you're processing all the things you're mad at, all the things you're anxious about, all the things you want to do, you're excited about, like you're processing through all these complicated emotions. And so I go for a walk or meditate, read a book.
Honestly with Bari Weiss
How Not to Die in 2025
But I have this internal dialogue with myself while I'll walk through the various things I'm thinking about. Like, hi, ambitious Brian. Like, what new ideas do you have for me? Hi, anxious Brian. Like, what are you worried about today? And, you know, yes, you're right. I probably did offend that person. They probably hate me because I said that thing. You know, what a poor judgment on my part.
Honestly with Bari Weiss
How Not to Die in 2025
But you need to calm yourself down. And then six is aware of stimulants. So caffeine has a half-life of six hours, which means if you have a cup of coffee at 6 p.m., at midnight, half a cup of coffee is still in you. And so you really need to be mindful of how much caffeine and other stimulants.
Honestly with Bari Weiss
How Not to Die in 2025
Now, if you can do those five habits, you will achieve the best sleep of your entire life, and it will change everything else about your life. But it's not just get more sleep. It's build your life around sleep.
Honestly with Bari Weiss
How Not to Die in 2025
No, my smartphone's in my bedroom. I just turn it off.
Honestly with Bari Weiss
How Not to Die in 2025
I turn off Wi-Fi. I turn off Bluetooth. But no, it's in my room.
Honestly with Bari Weiss
How Not to Die in 2025
So this is a very common disposition where most people respond to these questions and say, if I don't have my autonomy and authority and free will, I don't know if I want to exist. That's a very common reaction.
Honestly with Bari Weiss
How Not to Die in 2025
I mean, I guess like being an entrepreneur, you're kind of answering the meaning of life question. Like when you're, I was born into a religious environment and it was like, hey, your responsibility in life is to obey God's commandments so that you get heaven in the afterlife. And when you become an entrepreneur and you're in that community and professional success is your objective,
Honestly with Bari Weiss
How Not to Die in 2025
that becomes your only life objective and you're willing to do anything for it. And then you also, just by default, by being in the entrepreneurship community, you accept the habits and cultural norms in that community. And so when you hear people say things like, so-and-so worked all night long for two, worked for 48 hours straight and coded something and they're brilliant.
Honestly with Bari Weiss
How Not to Die in 2025
You're like, oh, wow, well, maybe I should stay up two nights in a row and do something brilliant because I want people to say good things about me too. And so there's this folklore that beats or like, you know, they sleep under their desk or like, and so there's like these hero war stories of people celebrating something this debaucherous lifestyle where you're ruining your health.
Honestly with Bari Weiss
How Not to Die in 2025
It's like, oh my God, we just can't believe how great they are. And so it's very hard to not become that. And so I fell prey to that. When I was in the cultural mindset, I too would grind. Like I wouldn't exercise. I didn't eat well. I got fat. I wouldn't sleep. And you kind of have this trademark haggard look as an entrepreneur, right? You're You just are beat up.
Honestly with Bari Weiss
How Not to Die in 2025
And that's kind of like the brand. And so I sold my company and I was like, oh my God, that just absolutely destroyed me. And it was, I mean, it was in service of another goal, but still like, and entrepreneurs know what I'm talking about, right? This is so common. It's almost like you walk in and you just behave a certain way. You're not even sure why.
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How Not to Die in 2025
Yeah, I'm saying that it cuts on two levels. I'm saying that before the 21st century started, it was very reasonable to say, live fast, die young, right? It was guaranteed you're gonna die. So like go to war and be a hero, like and die young, great. Be an epic entrepreneur, die young, be an epic politician, die young and let your memory live on, great. Like compete for don't die in memory.
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I think our ideas of being human and consciousness are going to change beyond our ability to comprehend in just a very short period of time. I think it will change so dramatically, we will be unrecognizable from our current state. So I am unattached to any conceptions of what I have right now as a conscious being.
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And what's happened over the past couple of years is now there's this legitimate question, are we the first generation that won't die? Now, if that's the case, then the game of existence changes. It changes from live fast, die young, and martyr yourself for a certain cause to don't die. And so if you look at this from the vantage point of the 25th century, right?
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So just like we look back to the 16th century and we compress the entire century into one or two things, the 25th century is going to look at us and compress our time and place into one or two things. And I think they're going to say two things happened in the early 21st century. They'll remember two things.
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We gave birth to superintelligence, and we figured out how to not die.
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Talent is the ability to hit the target no one else can. Genius is the ability to hit the target no one can see. If you go back through history and you look at the improbable things that people said that are now normalized and accomplished, you realize that everything at one point was improbable. Everything at one point was impossible.
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So if you say, what are the foundational tools needed for? to build a smartphone, right? You go through from silicon manufacturing to all the various layers. If you then go through the same exercise and say, what layers would we need to solve aging? Genomics and single-cell manipulation and epigenetic reprogramming and gene therapy and gene. So if you go through and make that list,
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We basically have all of the primary tools needed to substantially slow down the speed of aging, regenerate organs, and reverse age. Now, those things are in the maturation process now. We don't have them as clinical therapies. But if you just basically say, what theoretically would we need to have mastered as the basic tool set so that with advanced technological ability, we could solve it?
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It's there. Like that's, this is what, when I sold Braintree Venmo, that was my thesis is that we have the ability to engineer reality at the level of atoms and molecules and organisms. So I started investing in synthetic biology, genomics, nanotech, synthetic or computational therapeutics, like at this base layer.
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If you look at the advances over the past couple of years, like AlphaFold, you know, they just showed they can model out the molecular interaction across all molecules or protein folding. And so, yes, all the pieces are falling into place. It's not obvious. You have to kind of squint to see it. But the statement here is not that we're going to move faster than the speed of light.
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That's not known how to accomplish that in physics. But we have an adjacency. There's a jellyfish that is immortal. We know that biology has solved for immortality. So it can be done in biology. It's a different species. But all the pieces are there for this to happen.
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Yeah, I mean, I certainly appreciate my upbringing a lot. Yeah, I was taught to skip classes. temporary pleasure for long-term gain. So definitely had that advantage of building those muscles when I was young. And that doesn't mean I've not been without my vices. Like when I was building as an entrepreneur, my willpower, when you don't get good sleep, your willpower craters.
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Like your ability to resist eating a cookie goes to very low. And so I certainly had my own challenges with willpower and self-control. But yeah, I mean, at some point in my life, I did have at least some training in the idea of foregoing short-term pleasure for long-term gain.
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Yeah, I mean, in the same way that, you know, if you were to travel somewhere right now, you would probably enter an address in a navigation app and you would probably follow the streets it tells you to follow. Even if you know how to get there, because the algorithm may know where there's construction, it may know where there's traffic, it has a greater awareness than you do.
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And so in some ways, that system is better than you at knowing what route to take. And so we see it through this general principle that when enough data can be gathered, when an algorithm can be run, it surpasses human ability at achieving an endpoint that the person wants. Like the person wants the shortest possible route to the destination or, you know, the most scenic route.
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Like take your algorithm, your choice. And so I was making, and we've done this throughout society. Like when you pick up your phone and you're scrolling through social media, you're saying, hey, algorithm, entertain me. But you're not looking through all the posts and you're selecting, like you're just being fed with the algorithm, right?
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And so like, whether that's good or not, like, so we, we defer to algorithms to do things on our behalf because they are better, faster, stronger in many ways. And so I was making the observation that given that I'm generating all this data from my body, wouldn't I want to give this to an algorithm? and the algorithm determines better than me what to eat, how to exercise, when to go to sleep.
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I want the power of an AI system taking care of my health because I know as an individual, if I wake up in the morning and say, I'm not going to eat the croissant for breakfast, and then I do, I'm not going to eat the brownie for lunch, and then I do, I'm not going to stay up late and drink, and then I do.
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Every day, humans make these decisions that accelerate their speed of aging, and humans can't stop their self-destructive behaviors. They can't. They're just pinned down by it. And what I'm saying is the mind is this uncontrollable self-destruction machine. We've normalized it to make ourselves feel better, but it is what it is.
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And what I was trying to say is if you take this situation, give the algorithm my health data, it's going to do a substantially better job. Now, This is like on the bleeding edge. But inevitably over time, AI will become better at you, at being you in every way. It'll be better at you at giving interviews. It'll be better at you at writing posts.
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It'll be better at you in having a conversation with your partner on how to resolve a dispute. It will be better than us in every way imaginable. And so it's just a matter of time. And so I'm trying to suggest on the cutting edge here, I'm trying to view this time and place from the perspective of the 20th century, what is obvious from the perspective of a few hundred years from now?
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Not now, like I don't want the constraint of the two or three or four or five years, but what is obvious from a few hundred years from now?
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So I experienced this a lot where I do these don't die dinners in my home. I've been doing them for several years. And it's a conversation that runs on five thought experiments. And in a similar emotion, you just had people
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will have an existential crisis multiple times with the same thought process you just expressed, where they say, if I can no longer choose what I'm going to eat, I don't know why I'm going to exist. And so humans, they walk themselves into a corner where they say, I can't compute reality because this idea is foreign to me. Meanwhile, we already live in that world.
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When you're looking for content on Netflix, you're not picking your content. The algorithm is picking your content for you. So it's already happening in all these different ways. So we already don't have free will anymore. We don't, we're already enmeshed in this system of algorithms and we can't see it. So the irony is we are already the dystopia that we think is happening.
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We already have the same reasons to not exist, but yet we normalize to it. So it's just a new idea, but it's important to create self-awareness that we humans go to existential despair within 500 milliseconds of having a thought that is new to us. Instead of this other contemplation of, oh my God, wouldn't it be amazing if I didn't commit all these self-destructive behaviors?
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Wouldn't it be amazing if I would actually fit and slept well and I felt my best? It's a normal psychological process that people go through.
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Yeah, it's a great point. So if we were to go back in time and ask humans from the year of zero, what is the purpose of being human? And ask that same question every year for 2024 years, you would see a very different idea of being human through all those different years and throughout different cultures. So there's the idea of what it means to be human is not true. It's not like math or physics.
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The idea is just a social cultural phenomena. And so in 2030, there's going to be a different idea on what it means to be human. And so the response you're feeling is it's your idea in 2024, which is really the 2024 Zeitgeist idea, which you are mimetically responding to of the idea of being human.
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So this is a very common disposition where most people respond to these questions and say, if I don't have my autonomy and authority and free will, I don't know if I want to exist. That's a very common reaction.
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So I think that's a wonderful idea for others to pontificate on. I'm going to secure that you're alive so that you can ask this idea. And what I'm saying is the beauty of existence is that we can ask questions about existence. If you're dead, you can't ask questions. And so I'm saying don't die is the zeroth order priority for existence. Once you exist, the most important goal is to still exist.
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I think our ideas of being human and consciousness are going to change beyond our ability to comprehend in just a very short period of time. I think it will change so dramatically we will be unrecognizable from our current state. So I am unattached to any conception of what I have right now as a conscious being.
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Yeah, there's probably two layers here. One is that I think there's some anger in that, you know, when you're out and about in the world, whether you're traveling in an airport, whether you're driving down the road, whether you're in a grocery store. The proximity to bad food is just, you can't avoid it.
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And when you look at the food system and characterize it, it's contaminated with terrible ingredients, with microtoxins, with heavy metals. Like the food system's broken and our culture is broken. And that makes it very hard for people to navigate the world where I know way too much. I cannot go to the grocery store anymore. I just know.
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I know too well because I've tested maybe more than anyone else in the entire world. And so the food system is broken. And so I think people feel that, that they are victim to a broken food system.
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Exactly. So we, in the next few weeks, I'm going to start the world's biggest consortium on microplastics.
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So I'm in the food business. So when Blueprint went viral, people said, I love this. I want to do it, but it's so hard. Please make it easy. And so I've done that. We've got out, we found our own suppliers. We do our own testing. The problem in food production is that the microplastics problem is an entire industry's problem.
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It goes into the water that is used for the grass to grow has microplastics, which means the cow's getting microplastics in the grass they consume. When it goes through the manufacturing process, when it goes through distribution, when it goes through traveling, when it goes through packaging, it's on every single layer across the entire food supply chain.
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If you're Whole Foods and you're buying grass-fed beef, You're trying to do your customers a solid, like you're trying to give them good food, but whole foods does not control that entire process. And when, if you're. a farmer and you're trying to grow, you know, trying to raise meat, you don't have control of your entire process. Like you have used fertilizers and use water.
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So like people are just stuck in a system where nobody has control and no one even knows what's even up. Like nobody can measure microplastics. No one knows where they're at. So it's just this colossal problem and there's no one solve. And so we're going to get everyone together and say, we are going to work together. And we're going to bring light to this problem of where are they coming from?
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Where's it at? How do you remove them? And just share best practices among the entire community, because it is a problem we have to solve together. That's number one. And number two, of where people, I think, are like Maha, is there's this thing of the systems suck, but then there's also this other thing where people feel powerless to make change in their personal life.
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Because no matter whatever, you can regulate something, but if the person still doesn't exercise and eat well, So I think in many ways, people are crying for help that the culture that we live in is suffocating from a health perspective, like these expectations that sleep, that sleep debauchery is a good thing or that, you know, eating bad food is like living life.
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Like, you know, aren't you having fun? Like, you know, so I think there's just like people are crying for help that they feel awful and they can't get out because everything's broken, including culture.
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I just published a long thread on X looking at the seed oil debate. And I think that the general zeitgeist has been incorrect. I think putting the bowl, I don't consume any seed oils. So I have no dog in this fight. When you look at the evidence, we couldn't find any evidence that seed oils are bad. What we found is it's the way people cook with seed oils and specifically heating them up.
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Exactly. Yeah. And that's when you look at the evidence, like we cannot see. And even people who fire back at us, we just can't see any evidence that just says seed oils are bad. It really got taken out of context. There's no evidence base for that. Fluoride. Yeah, taking fluoride out of the water is a good idea.
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We did a comprehensive review on that as well, that it is a good idea to take fluoride out of water.
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That's such a complicated topic. You would need to be narrowly specific on which vaccine for whom when to speak with precision.
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I mean, so I have a, so again, like with vaccines, they're such a fire point. It's almost like, so I'm plant-based, but I don't say anything about meat. If people want to eat meat, great, like do your thing. So I just don't want to step into a holy war and vaccines are a holy war. Like no one is engaged on vaccines in a scientific method. It is just like a political fight mechanism.
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I want to trust the systems that produce science. Their role is to not sway my opinion. Their role is to give me data. And they didn't. They swayed my opinion. And that is an improper use of power.
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With my endeavor, I am trying to become the authority of trust and health. That's why I say I'm the healthiest person on planet Earth. And I'm trying to say, I've gone through this process of looking at scientific evidence, doing therapies and reporting out to you, giving you data. I'm not trying to persuade people. I'm just giving you data.
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So I'm trying to be that source of authority, knowing that our institutions have failed us. And then I publish everything I do openly. So the entire thing is open source to the public. So I see the same thing. They have failed us. I'm trying to step in and say, you can trust me. This is the process we're going about. And so I started with me, now we're expanding.
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So for example, how do you solve for microplastics? I'm going to solve it. I'm going to get in the game, get the consortium together, get all the people together, and we're going to solve it as an industry. My foods at Blueprint, we are probably the most tested foods out there. And so I'm trying to basically be the solution to the failings of our institutions.
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Yeah, I mean, entirely. I mean, this is what my entire endeavor is about. So if you say, what is the most powerful technology in existence? It's storytelling. And we've seen that religious institutions are the most durable we've seen in society. Companies come and go on the order of months, years, decades, and centuries. Religions go for millennia. And we as a species live and die by our stories.
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And right now, the reason why storytelling is so powerful is it's driving what we do with AI as we give birth to superintelligence. And so that's what Don't Die is. My ultimate endeavor is that Don't Die becomes the world's most influential ideology by 2027. That is the most impactful thing to work on because that then feeds all other things. And so it's not about Brian Johnson.
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It's not about my biomarkers. It's about as a species from the perspective of a few hundred years into the future, what is the correct move in this moment in this part of the galaxy? And that's what I'm suggesting is that The correct move is to acknowledge that existence is the highest virtue, that we are coming to this point from live fast, die young.
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And we realize that our entire existence is built upon this concept. We YOLO our way to all these other decisions and we just forget we ever accepted that as a norm. And we're now entering this new phase, even though we can't see it. It's not like right there in front of our face.
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we're arriving don't die is the new religion it's the new ideology it's the new economic system it's a new political system it's new morals ethics and social norms it is the new os of reality and so that's my goal is that it's not about me individually it's about a system of existence of like what does all intelligence what does intelligence do in this moment in this part of the galaxy
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They don't understand what I'm trying to do. Okay. So practically speaking, all of us understand intuitively that if your knee hurts— you need to do something to fix your knee. And the way you do that is you try to measure. You get an MRI or ultrasound, but you try to identify what's happening, then you come up with a solution. So that is a very practical thing we do every day. So is that science?
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I don't know, but it's certainly useful. So there's this very practical thing we do every day, all day. They're trying to identify that there's a limitation to an N equals one from a large double placebo-controlled trial. Sure, that's obvious.
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But then what they really don't understand is that I'm trying to solve for human existence and intelligence in the galaxy in this moment. I'm not trying to solve for a nature paper. I'm not trying to solve a certain drug to be on trial. I'm not. I'm trying to say we are on this ball in space. What do we do in this moment? And so they just simply don't understand what I'm after.
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And so I'm after a cultural change. I'm after the norm shifting that sleeping under your desk is cool to it's stupid. That's what I'm after.
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Yeah, sure. Yeah. I mean, every human performs the same number of experiments every day. Like you just took a drink of something. What are you drinking?
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Okay. So you just conducted an experiment, right? So you got your coffee from somewhere. You have it in some kind of material.
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Okay. So like, there you go. So you're conducting an experiment right now, right? You're putting something into your body and that coffee is not measured. The material is not measured. You're not even sure what you're putting in your body. I'm now going to take a drink of my water and This is in ceramic. My water has been tested with over 100 different variables. I know it's absolutely perfect.
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I know every single contaminant in my water and everything that it should be. People, they create this default mindset that my risk profile must somehow be higher because I'm doing things that are different than theirs. But when they have fast food, they're conducting an experiment. When they go to bed late, they're conducting an experiment.
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And what I'm saying is that my manner of experimentation using scientific evidence creates a much lower risk profile than theirs. And so I'm actually lower risk than other people who are not doing this. Hmm.
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So people are currently pledging citizenship to don't die. I just created that as a permissionless NFT that you can pledge citizenship to don't die, to practice the don't die ethos. And the pledge is that we are at war with death and its causes. We are pursuing an infinite horizon, the right to choose to exist as long as one chooses to exist. And it's a new ethos.
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And so whether you want to call it a religion, a cult, economic incentives, whether you're a don't-die entrepreneur, whether you're a don't-die politician, whether you're a don't-die community builder, whether you're a don't-die parent, the ethos is applicable throughout society. Don't die.
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is the most robust ideology in the world because it's equally economic and equally political and moral and ethical and all things. It's equally computational. This is a framework that AI can adopt. Where AI, it's hard to adopt democracy because democracy is a subjective art of human decision-making. Don't die as quantitative and based upon math and physics.
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So it is elegantly and most powerfully the best memetic and best ideology in the world that bridges humans and biology, the planet, and AI. And so that's what I'm trying to do. It's an ideology that fuses all interests on planet Earth in a single thing we can all agree upon, that nobody wants to die right now.
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Yeah, this is the new rallying cry for the West. Like you can make it tangible. Like, for example, the U.S. can say we are going to be number one in the world in life expectancy. That's a very real goal. You can say right now, kids, what we feed our kids at school, piece of pizza, chocolate milk in a plastic lined canister. And what else they have? It's like a die score.
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So we know smoking a cigarette costs you 11 minutes of life. So what is the die score for a kid's school lunch? Let's say three minutes. We don't allow our kids to die, to just smoke, but we're feeding our kids die at their school. And so don't die taken on as a meaning making game is let's clean up school lunches so that we're not feeding our kids die.
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So don't die is, I mean, it's just everywhere. You can say don't die applies to the coral reef. A healthy marine environment is a good idea. So when coral dies, that's kind of bad. So don't die is applicable everywhere. Economic systems, political, environmental, social, parenting, all the above.
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Yeah, people string words together. It doesn't actually matter what they say. They're just basically acknowledging, I don't understand this new idea. So when they say, I don't know what life means without death, what it means is they're currently having a hard time compute information in their mind. It's the same reason people call me a tech bro, vampire, Patrick Bateman, Dorian Gray.
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Don't die is actually the oldest and most played game of human history. If you think about most religions, they're selling a version of don't die. It's obey these commandments and don't die. It's do these things, don't die. In the professional world, it's achieve accomplishments so you're not forgotten. And, you know, you have kids so you can pass on your lineage.
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They don't understand, and so therefore they just spit out words.
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No. I yes and everybody. I mean, that's what I've done with all my critics. I welcome it. It's great.
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Forever is not a concept the human mind can contemplate. But will we be able to radically extend life beyond our preconceived imaginations? Yes. Will it happen before my natural limit right now? My life expectancy is probably like 80, 90, something like that if I maintain my health.
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But the technology is moving so quickly that the species is going to either survive or die in this moment much sooner than my life expectancy would turn up.
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Let's just imagine we're doing a thought experiment. We're hanging out with Homo erectus. They existed one million years ago. And we say to Homo erectus, Homo erectus, tell us, what is the purpose of life? And they're going to grunt and be like, well, it's about hunting and gathering and we're going to move our tribe. We're going to have more war.
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They wouldn't be able to tell you about quantum mechanics or about smartphones or antibiotics or about the electromagnetic spectra or about this new form of AI art. They're not concepts that they understand. And so they wouldn't be able to speak intelligently about what a beautiful life is, right? They're just so primitive in their thought processes.
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We are as primitive as Homo erectus as we are to AI. Like we are equally as primitive. We cannot say anything intelligent about the future anymore. And so the idea that we somehow have mastered existence and that we know what the purpose of existence is is so silly of a notion.
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So to me, the most powerful thing for each of us to do is to be incredibly humble and say, in this moment, we may not know anything and it may be in our best interest to try to dissolve all of our preconceived notions of what it means and step into this frontier because it may be the most extraordinary existence in this part of the galaxy.
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It's very powerful. What's the point of being rich? To create maximum value for the human race.
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I'm on Ozempic. I'm on a micro, micro dose. Really? I'm on terzapatide.
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A month ago. Yep. I'm on 2.5 units once a week. And the benefits for longevity are actually really compelling. So we're monitoring, you know, 50 different biomarkers in doing this. But we're interested. There's a lot of potential benefit from these drugs.
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Like don't die is like the most fundamental of all human desires. And what I'm suggesting is right now may be the first time that legitimate don't die is here. Whereas before we've had to make up stories, now it's technically potentially possible.
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Unfamiliar, I want to see data. Sauna? All the studies are observational. I want to see interventional data. Cold plunge? I metabolically cold plunge. My body temperature has declined five degrees Fahrenheit since I've been doing this.
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My body temp is now 93 in the morning when my basal body temp is a result of having no inflammation, caloric restriction, time-restricted eating, where my metabolism is now so much more efficient that my body temp has dropped. There's a lot of evidence showing that lower body temp drops is associated with increased lifespan.
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So as context, you'd have to swim in ice for a mile to achieve the same body type that I have. The birth control pill. That's complicated. That is a hormone disrupting intervention. It's complicated.
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I think the irony is that we told stories of God creating us. And I think the reality is that we are creating God.
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We are creating God in the form of superintelligence. If you just say, what have we imagined God to be? What are its characteristics? We are building God in the form of technology. It will have the same characteristics. And so I think the irony is that human storytelling got it exactly right.
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in reverse, that we are the creators of God, that we will create God in our own image, which is why we should probably be equal to this moment and level up our game and be an improved species.
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So it's not utopia. I'm saying that we are engineering an intelligence that exceeds our capacity in all things, even our capacity to understand and comprehend. We don't have evidence of any of the gods that we've imagined to be the case if they're out there. Great.
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But for those who have to make decisions on a moment-to-moment basis, we need to have some kind of methodical approach on how to answer that.
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I think of it like this. I'm very happy I'm alive today. And tomorrow, Saturday, I have things to do tomorrow that I'm excited about. When Saturday arrives, I know I have things to do on Sunday I'm pretty excited about. And so day by day, living for tomorrow and living forever are identical concepts.
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Yeah, it's to build Don't Die into the world's most influential ideology. And it's for my endeavor blueprint to be the world's best health protocol. And it's to build the world's largest consortium to clean up our global food supply chain.
Honestly with Bari Weiss
How Not to Die in 2025
The day is full of like, I do six hours of health every day. I go to a few doctor's appointments. I'm a CEO of three companies and I've got a family. I've never been busier in my entire life. Also have the best biomarkers. So all of you entrepreneurs out there, you can take care of your health.
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How Not to Die in 2025
Forever is not a concept the human mind can contemplate. But will we be able to radically extend life beyond our preconceived imaginations? Yes.
Honestly with Bari Weiss
How Not to Die in 2025
Yeah. Maybe it's helpful to explain the methodology we use. In any given day, every one of us ages and dies just a little bit. So if your lifespan, let's say particular lifespan in the U.S. in California, let's say is 79 years. then you can do a daily calculation and determine how much you die every single day towards that 70-year mark, so 79-year mark.
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How Not to Die in 2025
And then you can say, okay, now I have that number, what kinds of things are going to accelerate that rate of death? You can say smoking would, drinking a lot of alcohol would, not sleeping properly would, having a lot of environmental toxins like pollution and contaminants in the water. So there are certain things that accelerate death. And then there are things that slow death down.
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How Not to Die in 2025
So you could extend your lifespan. You could get good sleep. You could exercise. You could eat nutritionally. And so what I've done as a project is I've said, can I slow down my speed of aging to the greatest degree possible out of any human on the planet? And can I then eliminate all the sources of death? Can I become the most don't die person in human history?
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How Not to Die in 2025
So when I say, you know, 50 supplements, All these things are meticulously measured in my body. And we determine like what things are actually slowing down my speed of aging. So they're not random. It's not like I went to a certain blog and was like, you know, eight pills you should take for health and wellness.
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How Not to Die in 2025
This is like on the cutting edge of science and technology of how you actually isolate what is causing death in the body and how you neutralize it. What is your exercise routine? Yeah, one hour a day. I don't take any rest days. And it's a combination of strength, cardio, balance, and flexibility. But it's the first thing I do when I wake up in the morning.
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How Not to Die in 2025
Yeah, yeah, that's right. So I've had my last meal of the day. And the reason I do that is I've built my life around sleep. And my last meal of the day, I usually have about nine hours before bedtime. And I do that because my body then finishes digestion and it will lower my resting heart rate.
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How Not to Die in 2025
And so if my resting heart rate's around 44 beats per minute when I go to bed, I'm going to have a perfect night's sleep. But in terms of food, like the way we thought about it is we have this mantra where we say, when I say we, I have a team of about 30 medical professionals that we specialize in looking at all the different science and protocols.
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How Not to Die in 2025
And we had this idea that every calorie that enters my body has to fight for its life. And so we went through all the medical literature and we said, what are the superfoods among superfoods? And then we didn't stop there. We began testing every food source we had, every supplement, every food. And we would look at the nutritional label and say, is it accurate? We would test it for heavy metals.
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How Not to Die in 2025
We test it for pesticides and herbicides. And we found out that the global food supply chain is atrociously contaminated. And so then we started sourcing our own foods and doing our own tests with our own labs. And so basically it's every calorie fights for its life. It's superfood among superfoods and everything is sourced and tested.
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How Not to Die in 2025
And so we've really taken this to the absolute extent of like, how could you eat as clean as possible with every calorie?
Honestly with Bari Weiss
How Not to Die in 2025
I'm Brian Johnson, that crazy tech guy who's asking if we could be the first generation to not die.
Honestly with Bari Weiss
How Not to Die in 2025
Yeah, so my morning breakfast is a dish called super veggie, and it's broccoli, cauliflower, black lentils, ginger, garlic, and hemp seeds. The second meal of the day is called nutty pudding, and it's macadamia nuts, walnuts, flaxseed, sunflower lecithin, blueberries, raspberries, blackberries, pea protein. and some collagen.
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How Not to Die in 2025
And then the final meal of the day is some combination of vegetables, legumes, berries, nuts, seeds. So I'm plant-based. Those meals are good placeholders, but I vary them day to day, but they're roughly in the same categories. I get around 30 grams of plant fiber per day. The typical American gets less than 10. I don't eat any sugar. I don't eat any junk food.
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How Not to Die in 2025
I don't eat any like really just those primary food groups. And then I have a lot of extra virgin olive oil. I have three tablespoons per day of high quality extra virgin olive oil.
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How Not to Die in 2025
Yeah, I'm typically in a light state of hunger constantly. Yes.
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How Not to Die in 2025
Initially, it was uncomfortable. And I've really grown to appreciate it. I mean, the feeling of having overeaten and having too much food is really terrible. And being satiated is nice, but a slight hunger is really nice. I feel more alert. You know, when people fast, they oftentimes report that initially it's uncomfortable, but then they enter into this...
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How Not to Die in 2025
stage where they feel a lot of mental clarity and a lot of energy. So my energy has boosted. So it's the benefits. A lot of people will make observations about what I'm doing. They'll say, I can't imagine doing your lifestyle because of blank, blank, blank. What they don't see is we all know what it feels like after a phenomenal night's sleep, after exercising really well, after eating very well.
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How Not to Die in 2025
You just feel lucid and clear and energetic and all the amazing things about consciousness. And that's what I feel all the time. And so my mood is stable and robust. I don't get really beaten down. So yeah, there's just so many benefits to this way of living.
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How Not to Die in 2025
Yeah, I mean, yeah, maybe to put this in context, like this is why I think a lot of people are so confused by me. So when this first became viral, people would not know how to categorize me. And so they would just fumble words out of their mouth. And they'd say things like billionaire, eccentric, weirdo, vampire, fuck boy. They're just trying to string words together.
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How Not to Die in 2025
They don't know what to say, but it's like insult direction. And what they don't understand is I've actually created a a new professional sport out of longevity, out of health. Because when you think about health, people oftentimes say, well, first they say eat eggs, don't eat eggs, cholesterol is good, then cholesterol is bad. And then most people say, I give up.
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How Not to Die in 2025
I don't know how to determine and they're just going to change But there's actually a much more methodical and rigorous way to approach health where you can, in fact, find stable ground. We know that being obese is not good for health. Great. You can take those basic principles and walk in. And I'd say I have the best comprehensive biomarkers of anybody on this planet.
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How Not to Die in 2025
I am quantitatively the healthiest person alive. I am the Olympic gold medal champion of health. I'm number one in the world. Now, when you put it in that kind of framework, people are like, oh, and I publish all my data.
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How Not to Die in 2025
So I say here, all my markers, like, you know, when you have a hundred meter dash in the Olympic race, like, you know what the rules are, the starting line, the finish line, the times. So I've tried to say health and rejuvenation and longevity is now an official sport. And here are the markers, right?
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How Not to Die in 2025
I have been spending millions of dollars for the past three years working to slow my speed of aging. Today I'm going to show you one of my favorite meals called Super Veggie. It's a delicious- I take around 30 pills for breakfast and around 20 pills for lunch. My diaphragm is 18, my heart's 37, my cardiovascular capacity is in the top 1.5% in 18 year olds.
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How Not to Die in 2025
So as all things Blueprint, we measure all the time. And so I measure my level of hydration. And so there's obviously there's rule of thumbs, which are great. And then there's also measurements. I just want to clarify that you can answer questions like these with precision.
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How Not to Die in 2025
Generally speaking, I drink between 60 and 80 ounces a day of water.
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The "priest of AI" & tech's pursuit of eternal life
Thanks for the plasma. No worries.
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The "priest of AI" & tech's pursuit of eternal life
To put it simply, you don't want to die. Yeah, that's right.
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The "priest of AI" & tech's pursuit of eternal life
Don't Die is a religion. Don't Die is an economic system. Don't Die is a political system. Don't Die is an ethical, moral, social system.
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And so now, I mean, I arguably have the best biomarkers of anyone in the world. I've openly shared all my information. They're publicly posted and arguably down the line, like 10, 15, 20 measurements. And so it's been actually really motivating that if you can start where I was and then turn this hard, others can do the same.
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No. Yet, that doesn't stop us from speaking with unbridled confidence on what we'll be. And to me, it really shows that we humans, we don't want to die.
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So to me, it's been a really motivating experience that your body is highly responsive to change.
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I grew up on biographies. I understand the world through biographies. And I just love reading about people in time and place who are able to snatch out of the ether the future. The future is always present. It's just that it's very hard to see. And then over time, we look back, we're like, oh, of course, that was the future in that moment. And certain people saw it.
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And so I came obsessed with this question at 21. What is the future of existence on a time scale a few hundred years into the future? And I basically grappled with that problem for 20 plus years. And I didn't know what to do. So I said, I'm going to go be an entrepreneur. I'm going to make a whole bunch of money. And with that money that I'll try to do something interesting.
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So like it's, it's kind of been this like 25 year long journey for me to like, try to identify something that would have the power of changing the course of humanity. And just in the past 12 months, I think it finally all came together.
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Bryan Johnson: New SHOCKING Science on How to Reverse Your Age by 31 Years & The Damaging Impact of 1 Bad Night Sleep
So I was 43. I'm now 47. So four years ago.
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
Bryan Johnson: New SHOCKING Science on How to Reverse Your Age by 31 Years & The Damaging Impact of 1 Bad Night Sleep
I wish I would have been an embryo selected based upon genetic markers.
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Bryan Johnson: New SHOCKING Science on How to Reverse Your Age by 31 Years & The Damaging Impact of 1 Bad Night Sleep
Yeah. I mean, like now, I mean, when you're going through fertility, you create a bunch of embryos and choose the best embryo, you know, like along certain dimensions. And, you know, I, I'm like most humans on the planet where I was just born to the typical process of But now you can really go in that earlier stage. And so I wish it was happened before conception.
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And then I wish growing up, you know, like my, I grew up in Utah, which it was very much a culture of sugar cereal, you know, soda, excessive sun exposure without sun protection, terrible sleep. Like I just grew up in a culture that was
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extremely destructive to health and wellness and so my entire life has actually been in this american culture and it's been really and i was consuming microplastics you know from like the earliest days like all of us have been and so i would say yeah i really wish it would have started before birth if not before then very early in my childhood i wish i wouldn't have been consuming sugar and things like that which really has those have long-term complications that uh we just i don't know i'm not sure we're fully aware of them
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
Bryan Johnson: New SHOCKING Science on How to Reverse Your Age by 31 Years & The Damaging Impact of 1 Bad Night Sleep
On a large scale, my grandfather was full of lead, my parents are full of asbestos, and now I'm full of microplastics. Every generation has had their environmental toxin that has been a very a scourge in the world. Now microplastics have been this recent phenomena because plastics is a very low cost and high quality material. And so they're everywhere.
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And so microplastic is less than five millimeters in length and we get them in our bodies either by inhaling them, by ingesting them or through our skin. Like in the average male testicle, there's 8.2 milligrams of microplastics. In the average brain, there's 50% more microplastics now than there was 10 years ago. So it's increasing really, really fast.
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Bryan Johnson: New SHOCKING Science on How to Reverse Your Age by 31 Years & The Damaging Impact of 1 Bad Night Sleep
And so my company, Blueprint, we just launched the world's first at-home microplastics test. We were realizing this is a major problem. And the difficulty is we don't have any data. No one knows what these levels are in their life. And without that data, how do you know what things are working? If you stop drinking water out of plastic bottles, what happens?
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Bryan Johnson: New SHOCKING Science on How to Reverse Your Age by 31 Years & The Damaging Impact of 1 Bad Night Sleep
What happens if you change the clothing you wear? What happens if et cetera, et cetera? And so, yeah, I have my levels measured. My whole team did it. Mine came back lower than anyone on my team. And we have reasons why we think that's the case, but we're not quite sure. So we're excited that we'll have the world's largest data set of microplastics in the next month.
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Bryan Johnson: New SHOCKING Science on How to Reverse Your Age by 31 Years & The Damaging Impact of 1 Bad Night Sleep
And then as a community, we can start saying like, now let's all start running these tests and let's build therapies. So we can start doing things to minimize microplastics in the body.
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Bryan Johnson: New SHOCKING Science on How to Reverse Your Age by 31 Years & The Damaging Impact of 1 Bad Night Sleep
Let's just say we fast forward a few hundred years. That's when humans figured out they were transitioning from die to don't die. One night of bad sleep reduces your NK cells by 70%. Your NK cells are what's killing cancer cells. I'd never heard that before. My grandfather was full of lead. My parents are full of asbestos and I'm full of microplastic.
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Bryan Johnson: New SHOCKING Science on How to Reverse Your Age by 31 Years & The Damaging Impact of 1 Bad Night Sleep
I mean, for example, women that have higher levels of BPA have had fewer eggs retrieved. So it affects the fundamental processes of the body. It's been tied to all kinds of things. Neurodegeneration. I mean, basically every health malady is... potentially related to microplastics.
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Bryan Johnson: New SHOCKING Science on How to Reverse Your Age by 31 Years & The Damaging Impact of 1 Bad Night Sleep
Now, like the science is still emergent and we're still figuring it out, but it's like, it's not a situation where we're saying microplastics are a good idea and you should consume more. It's a situation where like we are consuming an enormous amount of them. We think they're causing very serious health problems. It may be worse than we think.
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Bryan Johnson: New SHOCKING Science on How to Reverse Your Age by 31 Years & The Damaging Impact of 1 Bad Night Sleep
So it's, it's really an area that we need to understand better. But I think minimization is probably the most important step right now.
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Bryan Johnson: New SHOCKING Science on How to Reverse Your Age by 31 Years & The Damaging Impact of 1 Bad Night Sleep
Water is one of the worst offenders. So don't drink out of plastic water bottles. Number two is have a water filter at home. So I have a reverse osmosis system at my house. It's very good. What's it called? Reverse osmosis.
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Bryan Johnson: New SHOCKING Science on How to Reverse Your Age by 31 Years & The Damaging Impact of 1 Bad Night Sleep
There are a bunch of brands who make it.
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Bryan Johnson: New SHOCKING Science on How to Reverse Your Age by 31 Years & The Damaging Impact of 1 Bad Night Sleep
Mine's custom made. So on my website, I have my water filter system listed out of every component. So if you go to blueprint.bryanjohnson.com and my protocol, I have it listed there. And if you're in the United States, the guy who set it up for me, I have his number and name. If you want to just call him. There's other systems that are better. They're like comparable. They're like $300.
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Bryan Johnson: New SHOCKING Science on How to Reverse Your Age by 31 Years & The Damaging Impact of 1 Bad Night Sleep
So it's a very common technology. It's easily accessible. But have that in your home is a water filter because microplastics are in water. And so that's why when people, they say like, well, I get my food at a farmer's market, therefore, right? But they don't realize that the water that is coming there to for the farm is like could be filled with microplastics.
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Bryan Johnson: New SHOCKING Science on How to Reverse Your Age by 31 Years & The Damaging Impact of 1 Bad Night Sleep
So there's just, there's no safe place anywhere for microplastics. Number two is for example, canned soups. In one study, they showed that a person who consumed canned soup for one week increased their levels by 20 fold just in one week. Gigantic, yeah. Also be aware of clothing. So try to use like hemp, cotton, silk, et cetera.
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Bryan Johnson: New SHOCKING Science on How to Reverse Your Age by 31 Years & The Damaging Impact of 1 Bad Night Sleep
Use a HEPA filter when you're vacuuming because they can be airborne in the house. Don't handle receipts. That has a lot of plastic microplastics. Using cookware that have the stainless steel or cast iron instead of nonstick is really helpful. But those are the kind of the big ones to be aware of.
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Bryan Johnson: New SHOCKING Science on How to Reverse Your Age by 31 Years & The Damaging Impact of 1 Bad Night Sleep
If you go through your house environment, just say like, where is plastic? You might find you have a plastic cutting board. You might find you have plastic kitchen utensils. You might have plastic plates. So just be plastic aware. And once you have that mindset, you're going to realize that plastic is like everywhere.
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Bryan Johnson: New SHOCKING Science on How to Reverse Your Age by 31 Years & The Damaging Impact of 1 Bad Night Sleep
So just slowly make progress and trying to replace that with stainless steel, aluminum, things like that.
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Bryan Johnson: New SHOCKING Science on How to Reverse Your Age by 31 Years & The Damaging Impact of 1 Bad Night Sleep
Yes.
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Bryan Johnson: New SHOCKING Science on How to Reverse Your Age by 31 Years & The Damaging Impact of 1 Bad Night Sleep
Exactly.
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Bryan Johnson: New SHOCKING Science on How to Reverse Your Age by 31 Years & The Damaging Impact of 1 Bad Night Sleep
We think they're causing very serious health problems. It may be worse than we think. I had this general idea that there must be some system in place in America to look watching out for us. Not true.
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Bryan Johnson: New SHOCKING Science on How to Reverse Your Age by 31 Years & The Damaging Impact of 1 Bad Night Sleep
Yeah.
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Bryan Johnson: New SHOCKING Science on How to Reverse Your Age by 31 Years & The Damaging Impact of 1 Bad Night Sleep
Yeah, I mean, you're getting leaching from the plastic. And so I think the average plastic bottle has, I think, 200,000 microplastic particles, something like that. So it's a very large amount. And so generally speaking, so I've just made this rule. Like today, I brought my stainless steel. I just carry this around with me everywhere I go as my primary container for liquid.
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Bryan Johnson: New SHOCKING Science on How to Reverse Your Age by 31 Years & The Damaging Impact of 1 Bad Night Sleep
But yeah, so just try to avoid plastic as a water bottle generally. And the thing is, on a bigger scale, the things which we can't see are now humanity's biggest threats. We're evolved to say, is there a lion in the bush or not?
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Bryan Johnson: New SHOCKING Science on How to Reverse Your Age by 31 Years & The Damaging Impact of 1 Bad Night Sleep
know we can we sense it can we smell it can we see it whereas now the dangers of like co2 build up in the atmosphere we can't see it we can't smell it like we don't we don't know it exists so the only thing we know how it exists is we see a like a number on a screen that's like this is bad because this number we're like what does that mean we can't see it there's no real threat the same issue with microplastics it's like this unknown threat we can't see it we can't feel it
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Bryan Johnson: New SHOCKING Science on How to Reverse Your Age by 31 Years & The Damaging Impact of 1 Bad Night Sleep
And so that's why like what I've been doing is I've been trying to say like, we, the reason why we measure everything is to basically give your body superpowers of awareness. It's like, now we understand like what's happening when you ingest fast food. We understand what happens when you ingest microplastics.
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Bryan Johnson: New SHOCKING Science on How to Reverse Your Age by 31 Years & The Damaging Impact of 1 Bad Night Sleep
What happens when you ingest, when you don't sleep well, like you see the whole system effect. And so it's really cool in real time to see like, actually, yes, like for example, one night of bad sleep is, can, I think it's four hours or less, reduces your NK cells by 70%. Your NK cells are what's killing cancer cells.
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Bryan Johnson: New SHOCKING Science on How to Reverse Your Age by 31 Years & The Damaging Impact of 1 Bad Night Sleep
So like your army of defense systems, like 70% of your army is wiped out after one bad night of sleep. And so it just has these really catastrophic effects.
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Bryan Johnson: New SHOCKING Science on How to Reverse Your Age by 31 Years & The Damaging Impact of 1 Bad Night Sleep
Yeah, yeah. Or like there's this thing called S- And so you want these levels to be like in between 20 and 100, mine are 63.8. When you don't sleep well, it's a toxin that gets inside the brain because the blood-brain barrier breaks down. When you have a bad night's sleep, it's the same level as a traumatic brain injury.
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Bryan Johnson: New SHOCKING Science on How to Reverse Your Age by 31 Years & The Damaging Impact of 1 Bad Night Sleep
And so like the body's responding as though you had a traumatic brain injury from one bad night sleep. So these things accumulate over time and that's why it's a sleep is so critical. It's why this culture of entrepreneurship is like, Oh, sleep on your dad is so lethal to your wellness.
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Bryan Johnson: New SHOCKING Science on How to Reverse Your Age by 31 Years & The Damaging Impact of 1 Bad Night Sleep
Yeah. IQR.
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Bryan Johnson: New SHOCKING Science on How to Reverse Your Age by 31 Years & The Damaging Impact of 1 Bad Night Sleep
Yeah, that's right. Yeah, on the air pollution, I agree with you. I live in LA as well. So I have a air measurement device in every room of my house and filters. And so we measure the air quality in every single room 24-7. So you're right, like LA air quality is typically around the 60 mark, which is like... kind of bad. But in my house, it's perfect. It's zero.
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And so I'm always aware of where the air quality is outside and inside. So yeah, I wish LA had better air quality. I love LA for so many reasons. I really wish the air quality was better. But yeah, I agree with you. It is a significant health threat. And it's not a good idea to have a lot of exposure to bad air.
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Bryan Johnson: New SHOCKING Science on How to Reverse Your Age by 31 Years & The Damaging Impact of 1 Bad Night Sleep
Yeah, there's quite a few filters. I'll get you the names of the ones I use, but I just have one filter per room and it does a great job taking down multiple contaminants. So if you're just mindful, like for example, I'd never leave my windows open So it's always a pretty tight air block.
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Bryan Johnson: New SHOCKING Science on How to Reverse Your Age by 31 Years & The Damaging Impact of 1 Bad Night Sleep
I do go outside, you know, when the air quality is nice, I try to be mindful, but also like if we're going to play a basketball game with friends, I'll also do that. So I kind of have like some flexibility, but yeah, you can actually maintain near perfect air quality in the house. And so if you go to my house, like I'd love to have you come see it.
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Bryan Johnson: New SHOCKING Science on How to Reverse Your Age by 31 Years & The Damaging Impact of 1 Bad Night Sleep
Like it's basically, we have perfect water, perfect air. It's the optimal state for health across all the spectrum.
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Bryan Johnson: New SHOCKING Science on How to Reverse Your Age by 31 Years & The Damaging Impact of 1 Bad Night Sleep
Yes. Yeah, that's very true. And so we actually did the same measurements where I took water that was from our filter system and water, tap water. I put it into a humidifier in my room. I turned it on and then I measured the air quality based upon humidified tap water and filtered water. The tap water set off all the alarms. It was like danger zone. Something bad is happening.
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Bryan Johnson: New SHOCKING Science on How to Reverse Your Age by 31 Years & The Damaging Impact of 1 Bad Night Sleep
So we're doing the analysis now, but I agree. Like they cause a lot of harm on skin inside the body. So yeah. And they're, They have to be practically managed.
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Bryan Johnson: New SHOCKING Science on How to Reverse Your Age by 31 Years & The Damaging Impact of 1 Bad Night Sleep
Yeah, that's right.
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Bryan Johnson: New SHOCKING Science on How to Reverse Your Age by 31 Years & The Damaging Impact of 1 Bad Night Sleep
I think you nailed it. The biggest game in the world right now is capitalism. That's what drives the majority of what exists in the world today. Religious adherence doesn't really affect the effects of capitalism all that much, right? It's a very moderate effect. Capitalism is the absolute dominant effect in the world. It's more so than democracy, more so than any religion.
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Bryan Johnson: New SHOCKING Science on How to Reverse Your Age by 31 Years & The Damaging Impact of 1 Bad Night Sleep
It's the primary game we're playing. So I think, yeah, and that's my primary objective in life is I'm calling it a question that the capitalism no longer answers the questions that are imminent for us as a species.
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Bryan Johnson: New SHOCKING Science on How to Reverse Your Age by 31 Years & The Damaging Impact of 1 Bad Night Sleep
Exactly right.
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Bryan Johnson: New SHOCKING Science on How to Reverse Your Age by 31 Years & The Damaging Impact of 1 Bad Night Sleep
Yeah, it does. Yeah. When I entered this world four years ago, I thought there's so many patterns that were similar to religion where like you take the King James version of the Bible and you can support a hundred different denominations, right? And they all fight like we're the true religion because of like this scripture, that scripture.
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Bryan Johnson: New SHOCKING Science on How to Reverse Your Age by 31 Years & The Damaging Impact of 1 Bad Night Sleep
So then you walk in the world, you're like, how do I even know like what's going on? It's all in the same book. And so health and wellness was very similar of like, take your guru, take your charismatic personality and like do this thing. And we wanted, I wanted to say like, we're going to be strictly science and strictly data. And we're going to open source, publish everything I do.
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Bryan Johnson: New SHOCKING Science on How to Reverse Your Age by 31 Years & The Damaging Impact of 1 Bad Night Sleep
There's no gatekeeping involved here. And so that's what we did. I think the carved out uniqueness is that we just said, like, we don't care about story. We just want to see the data. And so I think that's really been successful is that we are impartial. We don't care what the answer is. We just want it to work.
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Bryan Johnson: New SHOCKING Science on How to Reverse Your Age by 31 Years & The Damaging Impact of 1 Bad Night Sleep
Yeah.
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Bryan Johnson: New SHOCKING Science on How to Reverse Your Age by 31 Years & The Damaging Impact of 1 Bad Night Sleep
I mean, I wanted to, like Amelia Earhart flew a plane across the Atlantic, you know, there were people went to the top of Everest, went to the bottom of the ocean. Shackleton was trying to do a pole to pole. I was like, what would a modern day explorer do? Like, what is like an epic thing? I thought no one has shown, no one has mastered sleep in human history, right?
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Bryan Johnson: New SHOCKING Science on How to Reverse Your Age by 31 Years & The Damaging Impact of 1 Bad Night Sleep
Like we have no quantified, like a gold medalist of sleep. There's no like world record of sleep. And I thought I'm going to set a world record of sleep. And so eight months of perfect sleep. And I wanted to demonstrate you can achieve high quality sleep every single night if you try it. And so I rebuilt my entire life around it. So yeah, I mean, I became the world's best sleeper.
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Bryan Johnson: New SHOCKING Science on How to Reverse Your Age by 31 Years & The Damaging Impact of 1 Bad Night Sleep
I mean, really five simple things which everybody can do. It's so funny. I tried hundreds of things and I just landed on five. So one is you have to reframe your identity that you are a professional sleeper. So just like you take your professional job seriously, you show up on time, right? You learn, you grow, like you have a lot of self-respect on what you do. The same is true for sleep.
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Bryan Johnson: New SHOCKING Science on How to Reverse Your Age by 31 Years & The Damaging Impact of 1 Bad Night Sleep
Right now, like we sleep when it's convenient or when we're done watching our show or when we're finished like having friends over, right? But sleep is actually a profession. You need to become really good at it and respect it. Number two is the time of your final meal of the day is really important. So at least two hours before you go to bed is your final meal.
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Bryan Johnson: New SHOCKING Science on How to Reverse Your Age by 31 Years & The Damaging Impact of 1 Bad Night Sleep
Then start three hours before and then four and five. Mine is currently nine hours before. So I go to bed at roughly 8.30. That's not true. I go to bed at 8.30 on the dot. So then my last meal of the day is around 11.30 a.m. And so I do that and my resting heart rate at that point is 44. And when my resting heart rate is 44, I'm guaranteed to have a perfect night's sleep.
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Bryan Johnson: New SHOCKING Science on How to Reverse Your Age by 31 Years & The Damaging Impact of 1 Bad Night Sleep
If I eat two hours before bed, my resting heart rate is going to be like 56 because your body's still working hard to digest. And that will reduce my sleep quality by 35-ish percent, just like clockwork. It's very predictable. So last meal of the day. And then what you eat is really important. If you have like a big pizza or pasta or breads or alcohol, you're going to disrupt your sleep. So 45%.
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Final meal, eat earlier and lighter and the right kinds of foods. Three is you want to be aware of light. So knockout blues, no screen time. There's an app called Flux, F-L-U-X, that knocks out blues on your screen even before that last minute. So an hour before bed, no screen time. Take lights down in the house and then also use red lights, amber lights. Four is consistency.
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Bryan Johnson: New SHOCKING Science on How to Reverse Your Age by 31 Years & The Damaging Impact of 1 Bad Night Sleep
So whatever your bedtime is, say it's 10.30, be in bed plus or minus 30 minutes every night. Now, if you want to get more precise, like five minutes, that's kind of hard for some people, but 30 minutes is a pretty good one. Your body... will give you a superpower of assistance if you're consistent.
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Bryan Johnson: New SHOCKING Science on How to Reverse Your Age by 31 Years & The Damaging Impact of 1 Bad Night Sleep
Like when I was going to bed on time, when I do my eight months of perfect sleep, I was in bed plus or minus one minute of my bedtime. And my body would, when I had 829 would arrive, my body would just like knock out. It was unreal how powerful my cycle was. So if you can harness that consistency, your body will be more powerful than any sleep pill ever. any other intervention, it's really good.
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Bryan Johnson: New SHOCKING Science on How to Reverse Your Age by 31 Years & The Damaging Impact of 1 Bad Night Sleep
And then the fifth, and this is really important, is a wind down routine. So one hour before bedtime, you switch from work mode to sleep mode. And so it's really a mind game because when you slip into your sleep mode, one second later, your brain's going to say, oh, but what about this idea? Or what about this concern? Or what about this problem? Or what about this thing I forgot to do?
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And your mind is going to ping you with all these things. You'd have to say, thank you, ambitious Brian, for the new idea on what to do. We really appreciate you. You're doing a great job in life. Also, tomorrow we have all day long to address this. Right now we're in sleep mode. So I do this self-talk, like, oh, you had this
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Bryan Johnson: New SHOCKING Science on How to Reverse Your Age by 31 Years & The Damaging Impact of 1 Bad Night Sleep
conversation today when you're with jay you said this thing you probably offended him now he probably doesn't want to hang out with you anymore you're like you have to cycle through all these all these anxious thoughts and so you have to do this self-talk and be like i hear you it's okay i've heard your concern because what you're trying to do is when your head hits a pillow
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Bryan Johnson: New SHOCKING Science on How to Reverse Your Age by 31 Years & The Damaging Impact of 1 Bad Night Sleep
Yeah, thanks for having me here.
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Bryan Johnson: New SHOCKING Science on How to Reverse Your Age by 31 Years & The Damaging Impact of 1 Bad Night Sleep
you want to be somewhat reconciled with reality. Otherwise, you're going to all night long just loop through those thoughts all night long. And you'll be in light sleep, and you'll just be in the same thought space, and you're missing your deep and your REM.
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Bryan Johnson: New SHOCKING Science on How to Reverse Your Age by 31 Years & The Damaging Impact of 1 Bad Night Sleep
So then the YWAM routine, you switch to sleep mode, but then you also want to do things like read a book, go for a walk, do breath work, meditate, have a nice conversation with a friend. Don't fight with your partner in that window. Don't create an arousing situation. So those five things will give you the best sleep of your life.
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Bryan Johnson: New SHOCKING Science on How to Reverse Your Age by 31 Years & The Damaging Impact of 1 Bad Night Sleep
Exactly. Like, you have to go through this decompression time. You kind of have to let yourself, like, air out all of its grievances, all of its ideas, like, all of its reconciliation. And you have to talk through it with yourself. Like, hey, Brian, and be soft. Like, I hear you. Like, and it's okay. Like, tomorrow we're all right. But otherwise, yeah, you're right.
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Bryan Johnson: New SHOCKING Science on How to Reverse Your Age by 31 Years & The Damaging Impact of 1 Bad Night Sleep
Like, you really – people – most people think – you lay down and that's the time to do the reconciliation and it just leads to disaster. But there's like, there's five metrics to pay attention to, or I guess four. Your sleep is good if when you, if your head is on the pillow, you're asleep within a few minutes. If you're longer than that, then you need some work.
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Bryan Johnson: New SHOCKING Science on How to Reverse Your Age by 31 Years & The Damaging Impact of 1 Bad Night Sleep
I think it's very confusing to a lot of people. I think when you read the headlines and you view, I'm just unintelligible by most people. And I think if you look back, you know, let's just say we fast forward a few hundred years and you live in the 25th century and you're reading the history books of this time and place, I think it'd be pretty obvious to them.
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Bryan Johnson: New SHOCKING Science on How to Reverse Your Age by 31 Years & The Damaging Impact of 1 Bad Night Sleep
Two is you want to be up less than 30 minutes per night total. So if you're up for one bathroom break, you know, back to sleep quickly. Three is like roughly two hours of REM, roughly two hours of deep. There's variants there. People are different on that one. But like those are roughly the sleep stats. If you're in that category, you're like early 20s like in your sleep quality.
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Bryan Johnson: New SHOCKING Science on How to Reverse Your Age by 31 Years & The Damaging Impact of 1 Bad Night Sleep
As you age, it's harder to get sleep. And that's especially true for women. They have to spend much longer time in bed than men do. So it's really important that these habits you cement. Otherwise, like you're really fighting against multiple fronts.
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very quickly. And then if you miss it, you can't get it. So last week I was at a conference and everyone went out for this big party and I wanted to try to accommodate, I wanted to be with everyone. So I went to bed at 7pm. I woke up at 9pm. So I got my two hours of deep sleep and Then I went out with everybody. We had a great time. I came back home. I went to bed, I think at one or two.
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Bryan Johnson: New SHOCKING Science on How to Reverse Your Age by 31 Years & The Damaging Impact of 1 Bad Night Sleep
And then I got my remaining six hours of REM, you know, I'll get two hours of REM, but six hours of sleep. And I still had a great night's sleep and I felt wonderful the next day. But if you wait and go to bed, like at midnight for me, I would just miss my deep sleep. It would be gone. And so like, I'm trying to functionally be adaptive to societal norms while it was still logging those metrics.
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Bryan Johnson: New SHOCKING Science on How to Reverse Your Age by 31 Years & The Damaging Impact of 1 Bad Night Sleep
But yeah, you have to be mindful of like, if you build your life around it, then you can make these adjustments. But you really have to make a professional effort to do this because it takes like structurally, just get it right and then you'll win.
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Bryan Johnson: New SHOCKING Science on How to Reverse Your Age by 31 Years & The Damaging Impact of 1 Bad Night Sleep
They would say like, oh, of course, that's when humans figured out they were transitioning from die to to don't die. That's the big thing. They had the technological and medical progress to say they could now begin extending their lifespans to some unknown degree. So I think it really just, we're on this inevitable trajectory towards radically extending how long and how well we can live.
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Bryan Johnson: New SHOCKING Science on How to Reverse Your Age by 31 Years & The Damaging Impact of 1 Bad Night Sleep
Black holes could be a consequence of the way that we understand the universe.
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Bryan Johnson: New SHOCKING Science on How to Reverse Your Age by 31 Years & The Damaging Impact of 1 Bad Night Sleep
I mean, your body has a production line. So like you have a rhythm and you can get your deep sleep. So if you go to bed at 1030, your deep sleep is going to happen between 1030 and 1230. You may have a bit more deep sleep, like at two or three in the morning, but the majority is going to be front loaded. So if you miss that front window, you just miss it and you can't pick it up.
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Bryan Johnson: New SHOCKING Science on How to Reverse Your Age by 31 Years & The Damaging Impact of 1 Bad Night Sleep
Yeah, because you have a few sleep types. You've got REM, you have deep, you have light. And deep, so many restorative processes are happening. And REM, you've got a bunch of memory reconciliation and whatnot. But deep, you just have this restorative building process. So you basically miss out on all those restorative processes if you miss it, which is why the brain hurts when you don't get it.
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Bryan Johnson: New SHOCKING Science on How to Reverse Your Age by 31 Years & The Damaging Impact of 1 Bad Night Sleep
You can't do garbage collection. You miss a garbage truck.
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You're stuck with it the next day.
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Bryan Johnson: New SHOCKING Science on How to Reverse Your Age by 31 Years & The Damaging Impact of 1 Bad Night Sleep
Yeah, exactly. No one's coming to collect it. No one's coming to collect it.
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Bryan Johnson: New SHOCKING Science on How to Reverse Your Age by 31 Years & The Damaging Impact of 1 Bad Night Sleep
Yes, exactly.
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Bryan Johnson: New SHOCKING Science on How to Reverse Your Age by 31 Years & The Damaging Impact of 1 Bad Night Sleep
And I'm really the forerunner in trying to start that process.
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Yeah.
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Bryan Johnson: New SHOCKING Science on How to Reverse Your Age by 31 Years & The Damaging Impact of 1 Bad Night Sleep
So I've learned to be, in doing this for four years, I've learned to be very humble. I don't know how much we know and how much we don't know. Maybe, for example, we actually know 2% of what we will know in 10, 20, 30 years. And so we're very humble. For example, I am vegan. I'm caloric restriction. And yet, if you hear those stats, and I also do low protein.
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And so if you hear those stats, the cultural norm would be like, oh, he for sure is broken, weak, not capable, not athletic, not strong. But in every category, like my cardiovascular fitness, my actual physical strength, all my metrics are top 1%. And so we've defied the cultural norm of what is good health, how you achieve good health.
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Bryan Johnson: New SHOCKING Science on How to Reverse Your Age by 31 Years & The Damaging Impact of 1 Bad Night Sleep
And so I know this is probably true for others as well, is many of the things we believe are probably not true. And so I'm soft also that I've learned that people have a justification for everything. There's just no way around it. That's humans. And so I don't try to resist it. Just say like, Great. Do your thing. Just measure your data because we know the stats.
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Bryan Johnson: New SHOCKING Science on How to Reverse Your Age by 31 Years & The Damaging Impact of 1 Bad Night Sleep
Like for example, if you're not sleeping well, your other markers are going to be off like your S you know, SB 100, uh, like all these different, all these markers are going to be off. I invite, just look at the data.
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Bryan Johnson: New SHOCKING Science on How to Reverse Your Age by 31 Years & The Damaging Impact of 1 Bad Night Sleep
So the 2 million is primarily spent on the research and the measurement. And so the actual, what I do day to day is very low cost. I'd say the majority of people can afford it. Most things are actually free. So a lot of people see the $2 million headline and they think, oh, this can't be achievable or reachable for me, but actually is.
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Bryan Johnson: New SHOCKING Science on How to Reverse Your Age by 31 Years & The Damaging Impact of 1 Bad Night Sleep
I mean, like, if you notice, like I did this, my company Kernel, we built this brain interface, this wearable fMRI. And we were measuring the effects on my brain of willpower with deep sleep and without deep sleep. So with deep sleep, my willpower was significantly high. without deep sleep, it significantly dropped.
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Bryan Johnson: New SHOCKING Science on How to Reverse Your Age by 31 Years & The Damaging Impact of 1 Bad Night Sleep
And so if the next day after deep sleep, you're trying to decide, do you eat the brownie or not? Do you work out or not? Do you have a drink or not? The chances of you caving in that moment are significantly higher if you've not had deep sleep. And then it has this cascade effect.
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Bryan Johnson: New SHOCKING Science on How to Reverse Your Age by 31 Years & The Damaging Impact of 1 Bad Night Sleep
So if you don't sleep, then you're also going to do this bad thing, which also leads to poor sleep, which also leads to doing more bad things. So it has this domino effect where it really cements bad habits and it becomes harder for you to come out from underneath it of actually making meaningful change.
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Bryan Johnson: New SHOCKING Science on How to Reverse Your Age by 31 Years & The Damaging Impact of 1 Bad Night Sleep
Exactly. It just devastates your willpower. And like all these other cascading things. And so that's why like, I think in even like five or 10 years, I think that health is gonna, it will become the zeitgeist. And I think we'll look back and we'll be like, what? Like we used to just sleep the part of ourselves and like we had no idea what it was doing for these follow-on effects.
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Bryan Johnson: New SHOCKING Science on How to Reverse Your Age by 31 Years & The Damaging Impact of 1 Bad Night Sleep
Like I want to actually, what I'd like to do is tie sleep to IQ. You don't mess with someone's IQ, right? Like if you can show that IQ drops post a bad night's sleep, it basically decimates these ideas of like genius person does blank without sleep. So the ultimate argument is data. So it's a study I want to do is take these patterns, measure IQ throughout the day.
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Bryan Johnson: New SHOCKING Science on How to Reverse Your Age by 31 Years & The Damaging Impact of 1 Bad Night Sleep
And if you can show that drop, like there's very few things that will be more effective than showing that you basically become dumb when you don't sleep.
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Exactly. I did this as well with, so when this endeavor went viral, people were confused. And so I got a lot of name calling. So people would be like, you're an eccentric billionaire, rich, Patrick Bateman, Prometheus, you know, like all the possible things they could call me. And so they were just confused. And so I'd say like, okay, LeBron James spends $1.5 million a year on his health, right?
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And you see him play in the court. You're like, good job, LeBron. Like you're doing a good job. But someone like myself, if you've worked really hard at health and wellness, I'm weird and an outcast and should be an eccentric. And so I had to clarify for people that actually I'm a new category, and I came up with this idea that I'm a professional rejuvenation athlete.
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Bryan Johnson: New SHOCKING Science on How to Reverse Your Age by 31 Years & The Damaging Impact of 1 Bad Night Sleep
And so what we did that was unique is when you're trying to do something to improve your health and wellness, it's important you can verify it does or doesn't work. Like if you hear a story about, you know, doing like drinking this kind of drink is good for your health.
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Bryan Johnson: New SHOCKING Science on How to Reverse Your Age by 31 Years & The Damaging Impact of 1 Bad Night Sleep
It's a new sport, it's a new game, and they created a leaderboard. So looked at speed of aging. So there's a clock inside of our body that tells you how fast or how slow you're aging. And then I said, all right, world, let's compete. Because right now you have like all these health gurus who are saying like, do this, do that. But how do you know what thing works?
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Bryan Johnson: New SHOCKING Science on How to Reverse Your Age by 31 Years & The Damaging Impact of 1 Bad Night Sleep
And so I was like, all right, just show us your data. So now we have a leaderboard. And so same thing, just like a professional sleeper, there's now a professional rejuvenation athlete and we have a leaderboard, people compete. So it's like, it helps humans understand like what the game is and how to win and how to score points.
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Bryan Johnson: New SHOCKING Science on How to Reverse Your Age by 31 Years & The Damaging Impact of 1 Bad Night Sleep
Yeah. What's your protein intake?
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Bryan Johnson: New SHOCKING Science on How to Reverse Your Age by 31 Years & The Damaging Impact of 1 Bad Night Sleep
Yeah. Yeah. And so I say that's low protein. So it sounds like for where you're at, that's about where you're at. But most men I know are typically in like the 200, 250 range. They have an idea that just there's no upper bound of too much protein. And so they just pound it. And so, yeah, I guess my 120 is generally speaking on the lower side of how most men think about protein consumption.
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It's a story until you can measure it and say, it has this kind of change in the body and either increases your biological age or lowers it or just something else. And so I became the most measured person in history and that's really expensive. So the really the expensive portions have been measuring every organ of my body. The actual protocol is a really low cost.
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Bryan Johnson: New SHOCKING Science on How to Reverse Your Age by 31 Years & The Damaging Impact of 1 Bad Night Sleep
Especially with an hour every day working out. It's like a really rigorous schedule. So most people just assume you have to have more protein.
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Yeah. Yeah. So we look at it. So we say like, basically you can look up blood biomarkers and say, cause once you get too much protein, it has a negative effect on the body. You can tease out those biomarkers, but then we've used MRI to say, what is my total muscle mass? What is my fat, you know, liver fat like throughout.
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Bryan Johnson: New SHOCKING Science on How to Reverse Your Age by 31 Years & The Damaging Impact of 1 Bad Night Sleep
So for example, on my latest MRI scan, I'm in the top 1% for ideal muscle and fat. And so by every marker and then my cardiovascular fitness, I've topped 1.5% of 18 year olds. So that's the end point. So if you say, what is the protein intake? It's not solely based upon a dietary recommendation. It's like, what is happening in the body? And what is my muscle status?
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What is my cardiovascular status? What is my energy? And so like, those are the end points where again, you move away from story and you move to data and let data resolve the debate.
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Bryan Johnson: New SHOCKING Science on How to Reverse Your Age by 31 Years & The Damaging Impact of 1 Bad Night Sleep
Around 10.
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Bryan Johnson: New SHOCKING Science on How to Reverse Your Age by 31 Years & The Damaging Impact of 1 Bad Night Sleep
It was like an approximate goal, but we were really trying to say, if you're taking every organ in the body, we're trying to make every organ in my body age 18. That's kind of a ridiculous idea in this moment, but it may not be in five or 10 or 15 years.
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Bryan Johnson: New SHOCKING Science on How to Reverse Your Age by 31 Years & The Damaging Impact of 1 Bad Night Sleep
We've been successful in slowing down my speed of aging and then reversing the biological age of some of my organs, not all, like for example, my left ear. It's really this methodical progress to say, can you measure age and then move the organ back?
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Yeah, we've tried to construct a perfect diet. So every single calorie I consume has a specific objective. If it doesn't achieve a goal, like we basically tried to just stack superfoods across the board. And so the nothing I eat, which is like cool or fun or culturally in, it has to have rigorous scientific evidence. And we have to measure it in the body that's actually working.
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And so, yeah, I eat a lot of broccoli, cauliflower, lentils. hemp, pea protein, hemp protein, berries, nuts, seeds.
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Yeah. So my first meal of the day is called super veggie and it's broccoli, cauliflower, black lentils, ginger, garlic. Yeah, that's the first meal. And the second meal is called nutty pudding, which is macadamia nuts, walnuts, flaxseed, pomegranate juice, some berries, and pea and hemp protein. And the third meal of the day varies every day.
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Bryan Johnson: New SHOCKING Science on How to Reverse Your Age by 31 Years & The Damaging Impact of 1 Bad Night Sleep
So it's like some vegetables, some berry nut seed, but a total of 2,500 calories. And then I do one tablespoon of extra virgin olive oil with each meal. So I do three tablespoons a day.
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Yeah, raw. So I never cook with it. And then I do collagen peptides. So that's the only thing that's non-vegan is the collagen peptides. And that's 2,250. Oh, they also do some cocoa, 100% pure cocoa, six grams a day. And then I take around 50 pills. So there's no diet, no vegan diet, no carnivore diet can satisfy the body's entire needs. So you have to supplement if you want to be ideal.
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Bryan Johnson: New SHOCKING Science on How to Reverse Your Age by 31 Years & The Damaging Impact of 1 Bad Night Sleep
it really is in chasing the cumulative measurement across the entire body. For example, like I'm the most, I've spent more time in an MRI than anyone in the world. I think this new technology called DNA methylation, you're looking at these patterns in the body. I'm the most measured person with that DNA methylation in the world. And so like,
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And if you want to be on the frontier of like really slowing down your aging and robustly addressing the body's needs, you need to supplement. Some things just cannot be acquired through diet. And so these are like... This is just scientific fact. It's very hard to have this conversation. The moment you bring up diet, people just go crazy.
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Bryan Johnson: New SHOCKING Science on How to Reverse Your Age by 31 Years & The Damaging Impact of 1 Bad Night Sleep
War breaks out between the vegans and the carnivores, between this and that. I don't talk about it much because people get sort of triggered by it. And so I just try to say, do your thing. Whatever it is, do your thing. Just measure and then follow your markers.
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Bryan Johnson: New SHOCKING Science on How to Reverse Your Age by 31 Years & The Damaging Impact of 1 Bad Night Sleep
Yeah. I mean, actually I ate, so all blueprint food. So basically when I started doing this, we started measuring everything I was consuming, all foods, all supplements. And as you might expect, the supplement labels are not accurate. Companies are not truthful and the food is terrifyingly toxic.
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Bryan Johnson: New SHOCKING Science on How to Reverse Your Age by 31 Years & The Damaging Impact of 1 Bad Night Sleep
We know the food system's dirty, but I had this general idea that there must be some system in place in America that are watching out for us. Not true. So unless the food is killing you on the spot, there's like this gray area of like, kind of just do whatever. And so we are finding these foods I was eating were very toxic.
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Bryan Johnson: New SHOCKING Science on How to Reverse Your Age by 31 Years & The Damaging Impact of 1 Bad Night Sleep
And so we basically spent the past year sourcing food from all over the entire world, the very best foods, lowest levels of toxins. And so we've made it out into a product. People are like, I want to do this, but it's way too complicated. So we just made it easy for everybody.
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But it's like, I think we've created the most scientifically robust product out there, plus the cleanest, all third-party lab results posted.
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Bryan Johnson: New SHOCKING Science on How to Reverse Your Age by 31 Years & The Damaging Impact of 1 Bad Night Sleep
Yeah. So this is my company blueprint.
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So yeah. So when, when the company went viral, when this endeavor went viral, people were like, love it. I want to do it, but it's way too hard. Like no way can I put this all together? And so I thought, okay, I'll do it. So we put together the whole thing in this low cost, easy to consume package, olive oil, protein, eight pills a day, and then a bunch of other stuff.
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but we're trying to basically say like, you can get every calorie you need from us. And so we're trying to do most scientific, scientifically rigorous and cleanest and then transparent, like here are the lab results. So I think we've built the best thing in the entire world.
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Doing this consistently, routinely, we do thousands of data points a week. And so I think it's just all these things adding up. It's just expensive to do the test, analyze the data, continually have that process. We need a large team to do it.
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Bryan Johnson: New SHOCKING Science on How to Reverse Your Age by 31 Years & The Damaging Impact of 1 Bad Night Sleep
Black holes could be a consequence of the way that we understand the universe.
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Bryan Johnson: New SHOCKING Science on How to Reverse Your Age by 31 Years & The Damaging Impact of 1 Bad Night Sleep
You can, yeah. So I eat whole foods and that.
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Bryan Johnson: New SHOCKING Science on How to Reverse Your Age by 31 Years & The Damaging Impact of 1 Bad Night Sleep
Yeah. I mean, so like protein, the protein is a replacement meal. Got it. Yeah. It's like you need to get pea and hemp protein somewhere.
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I do 50. Yeah. Yeah. But our blueprint stack has eight. So it's like, if you want the best longevity stack in the world, we've put it together. Eight pills.
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about 62 or so health actives. So they're some of the best molecules known to anti-aging science for the body.
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Yeah. Yeah. I brought it here for you today. Oh, very cool. Thank you so much.
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Yeah, MRI we think is very safe. But CT, I've only done once. I just did a calcium score. And then we do blood draws. I've done a ton of blood work. We did ultrasound on my veins a while back to see if we had scar tissue that had been building up because I've done so much blood draw. We couldn't find any scar tissue.
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6 a.m. is my first meal. Okay. And then I finish by 11.
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So far, the data says it's good. Like if you look at my speed of aging or like any other marker, it's in my gut. It seems all fine. So I really, this protocol is built around sleep more than anything else.
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I don't. Not a single one? No. Now the idea of eating a piece of pizza or a whole pizza or like a donut or something just makes me sick because I'm going to do it. There'll be like, five seconds of maybe enjoyment. And then you've got like an entire day of misery. You feel sick. You feel lethargic. Your sleep is going. Like I've just ruined my sleep. I feel awful about myself.
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Like the cost is so high. I just don't want to do it. The other day I ate a potato chip. My friend was like, just have one. Yeah. It tasted like gasoline. I'm so surprised. We're just so normalized to these processed foods. We can no longer taste it, but it was just wild to go back in time and experience it new.
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Within days. Days? Yeah, it's very, very fast. Right. That's the thing about being human is like... If you take any given circumstance and you say like, what do I abhor? What am I repulsed by? What do I find unimaginable? Take any kind of vector. And you imagine that that is an impossible thing for you to be or do.
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And then if you actually got in that circumstance and you did it for a few days, you may find yourself renormalized to the exact thing you just found unimaginable. Like we humans can adapt to anything and almost instantaneously. It's just crazy. And so like most of the time, the realization is just like we're trapped in this thing
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So we do actively measure for negative repercussions of are we measuring too much to the extent of damage? So we're even measuring the measurement. So in every way we can possibly interrogate the body, we're trying to acquire data.
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I've had enough cycle times now with measurement where I can feel things intuitively. I can feel my HRV. I absolutely know my heart rate at any given moment. Yeah. So I definitely, my sensory awareness has dramatically increased.
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Yeah. It's okay. Yeah.
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I'm playing the power laws. Yeah. So that's why like last week when being with friends, I wanted to try a new thing, go to bed early, get your deep sleep, stay up and have fun to go back to bed. Like it's okay. So really trying to be adaptive.
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My mentality is that I'm really motivated by being respected by those that exist in the 25th century. When they read about this time and place, I would like them to say that I saw something that was invisible, that was incredibly hard to do, that the predictable pushback from the status quo was pretty violent. And so I'm really trying to demonstrate the future of being human.
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I'm not trying to be normal. I'm not trying to bow to status quo. I'm not trying to fit in. I'm not trying to soothe. I'm trying to say the speed at which technology is traveling is we're basically probably evolving like five, 10, 20, 30, 40, 50 years equivalent in months of time. Like our speed of evolution is increasing rapidly
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And so I'm trying to anticipate where we want to be and not be a lagging indicator of status quo. And so in my mindset, I really don't care what anyone right now who lives has to say about this. I don't. I just really am entirely in that future headspace.
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And so that really I find to be liberating because like so much of our society, you're tethered to social expectation and the punishment of what accompanies violating that expectation. And I just found it, I had to come up with a mental model to like try to fully explore this without that tethering.
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No.
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For me, it's kind of an interesting conversation because we humans do not know what happens after death. No one knows. Now, you can imagine what happens. You can tell a story about what happens. You can hypothesize what happens. All those things are true, but it's an unknowable thing. And yet, that doesn't stop us from speaking with unbridled confidence on what will be.
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And to me, it really shows that we humans, we don't want to die. Desperately, we do not want to die. And we want to try to address this omnipresent concern of what exists after life, what is death. And so I try to be very sober-minded to say, I don't know, and no human knows. Therefore, the thing I value most is that existence is the highest virtue. Whereas before...
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We looked at every organ. So if you, we have roughly 70 plus organs, depending on how you count. And so you can say like, I'm chronologically 47 years old, but that's not really a useful number. It's like a general approximation. Then if you measure the heart, you can say, okay, what is the biological age of the heart? And you can then dissect that and say, what is the structural age of the heart?
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Be when death is always inevitable, you just naturally soothe yourself with these stories. And what I'm saying now is like, actually, we might be able to do something about this that we never could before. And therefore, we can have a reimagination of what existence truly is.
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It's like, if you tell, like, let's just take an entrepreneur and say like, if you like show up to do this thing and you're just present and do like some minimal amount of work, you're going to become a billionaire, right? Like, that's the prize. But in reality, you have to be an entrepreneur to defy all odds and work a crazy amount to achieve some level of success.
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And I feel like the death narrative that we have as a species is kind of the same as like, you get this afterlife with this minimal set of effort. And so basically, it sacks people of inviting them to work hard for existence because it's already guaranteed. And so to me, it has this really negative consequence where it's like, oh, taken care of. Therefore, you can have poor health habits.
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You can risk your life. You can do these things. So I think we're really on this bigger timescale. We're wrapped up in this moment where our... We should be working a lot harder and care a lot more about our existence, about the planet's health, about our kids' health, about societal's health.
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And we're lackadaisical because we have some sort of idea that somehow in the afterlife, things are sorted. So I think it really weakens us as a species.
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we have much more in common than we do differences. So a lot of people immediately jump to, they'll see my protocol and they'll say, well, certainly there has to be personalizations that are done from you versus me or whatever. And I would draw their attention back to say, we have much more in common than you think.
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Instead of saying what are the major commonalities, they immediately go to differences. And so what we have in common is sleep works great for men and women. And eating vegetables, also great for men and women. And again, you can look at the data. Exercise, great. And so there's nuances on the exercise of around a woman's cycle.
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So yes, there's nuances, but generally speaking, the basics of life health practices are good for both males and females. And so then the nuances like you, I have a protocol I've published publicly. There's nuances of a woman's cycle, what to do around that for both food and exercise. So yeah, those are details I've listed out.
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And then what is the functional age of the heart? Like you can look at the functional age of like, what is the max heart rate? You know, you can take 220 minus your age roughly for a rough calculation. Then you look at the valves and you look at all the cell types. And so you can break each organ down into different ways to understand what is its biological age.
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But generally speaking, the benefits are in the power laws of health and wellness, of getting the basics right and less so the tail things which people focus on. Yeah.
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So my body, for example, has barely levels of any detectable inflammation. It's almost entirely gone.
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Yeah. Do you know your inflammation level?
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Yeah. Okay. Interesting. Yeah. So you're looking probably at your HSCRP.
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Yeah. So yeah, it has to do with a diet, a lot sleep. Yeah. It's like, again, like back to the basics of life and then stress. Yeah. So it kind of always comes back to the basics.
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Yeah. First is sleep. So sleep is a superpower to manage stress. I know that when I'm well rested, if a stressful event happens, I just kind of, I can brush it off. If I'm not well rested, it feels very painful and I react very strongly. So sleep is probably the most powerful thing to manage stress.
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Two is if you're exercising and feel well, it also lowers stress response. Then a balanced diet. The same thing.
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You get those power laws in place. A lot of people, when they can't get those power laws in place, they want to take a pill. And so I realize that's how a lot of people think. I do want to urge people, get those habits in place. They are the most robust, highly performative things you can do.
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So for example, like my heart is 37. My left ear is 64. My diaphragm is age 18. And so you can any part of the body, any organ or biological process, you can assign an age score if you've got data to show, data to make that comparison.
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It's cardio, weights, balance, and flexibility.
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Yeah.
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like discipline if there was one word what word would you choose if there's one thing that you said is at the core of everything you've talked about today it's systems systems yeah so like if you design if you say like i go to bed at this time of day every single day you build your life around it if you say i work out in the morning right i wake up every day i never change it so the thing that most people do is they leave the decision to their willpower
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Yeah.
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I shot a lot of guns as a kid. And so I would, you know, aim the gun like this with this left ear exposed sound, this, this, it was more protected and then also loud music. And so, yeah, so this is the thing is like now when I'm at social events, I have this app on my phone decibel where like last night I was at a social event and the room was 105 decibels.
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They say, do I feel like it or not? And then in that moment, it's like, nah, I'm going to skip today because like, I've been working really hard. I need to rest anyways. Like you rationalize it in whatever way. So just build systems. I basically, when I started doing this, like when I came here today, I put your address in to my navigation system and I was like, take me there.
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I didn't memorize the streets, right? And so I trusted the algorithm that had more data than I had. And so I proposed this four years ago when I started. I said, can we build an algorithm that takes better care of me than I can myself? Like just measure my body, put it into a computational system and pair the science, then tell me what to do. I wanted to do like... uh, navigation for my body.
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And that's what we've done. So I basically, I do not make decisions with my mind.
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The algorithm does all the things for me. And so I just like, I feel like inevitable that we humans will not do this weird thing of make decisions on a daily basis of what to eat when exercise or just be done by an algorithm. And we'll be like, this is amazing because like, it just does what's right for me. I feel amazing. I was scared of it before. And now it's the best thing ever.
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It's like, it's just inevitable. We're going to be in that path. Now, a lot of people, when they hear that they will think it's dystopic, which like, I get it from where you're at, but like we have said yes to algorithms everywhere. And it's entirely reasonable that we'd say yes to our health.
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Yeah, that's true. I learned this when I was depressed. My mind was like, hey, you should commit suicide. Life is awful. You're never going to feel hope again. Die. It was just on repeat saying that. The biggest breakthrough in my depression was when I learned I am not my thoughts. such a simple concept, but like you see it land, it's like, okay, this came from somewhere, but it's not me.
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And so even now, like, uh, do I want to work out or not? I don't care what my brain says. It is an unreliable source of information. Systems are a more reliable form of information. It's like set up your system. And like you're saying that, you know, if you do the system, you're going to be happy. I just never trust my mind to tell me what I do, what I do and don't want to do.
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Exactly.
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Entirely.
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So anything over 80 can cause hearing damage. So just in a social environment with people talking in a voice that's like loud enough for the other person to hear, you've got sustained ear hearing damage.
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Like two things. Like one, when I built my previous company, Braintree of MO, we would build version one of our software and then version two and version three. We never showed up and the software was like, guys, no, I don't feel like doing my work today. I'm not going to perform. Like the software just performed in its most robust way possible. It's very reliable.
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Now there are bugs and we can fix the bug. But then whereas me as a system of intelligence, just like software, I would make all the same errors every day. go to bed late, eat the wrong foods, maybe have alcohol, waste time on things I didn't want to do. I would just be this walking disaster of errors. And I would do the same behaviors every single day. And I thought, this is crazy.
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This form of intelligence I can just program to be this great, robust intelligence, whereas I can't do anything reliable. And I thought, I want to build myself in a way where I can reliably be robust as an intelligence system. So this is kind of cool. We can now imagine this as humans. So I wanted to build systems. And I know a lot of people will be like, that's so weird. You're not a computer.
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But I get it. But I guess I would say two things. One is that
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when i talk about these things in these terms people will say but you're not happy like i find that i find happiness in life and spontaneity of like staying up all night and like they have all these elegant explanations about you know why they love to the following things which is fine so there's like two ways to look at this one and say like what does your health look like what does my health look like what does your happiness look like and what does my happiness look like and like quantitatively i think this system is superior because
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Now, it doesn't mean you have to do a specific thing. You can still have flexibility and you can have spontaneity, but generally speaking, people are very reluctant to release the status quo of like, do they just like do whatever they want, whenever they want to a more rigorous dance of like, you can be happier with these systems in place.
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But it's just like, I've had this conversation so many times. I know like the deep, deep resistance people have to just shut this down. But I'm suggesting like, this is really the reality of the future of being human. I'm prototyping it right now. And it actually is a superior system to whatever we're doing as humans now.
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God, what a good question. Honestly, that is like a bullseye. In capitalism, you're fighting for resource accumulation and for wealth accumulation and for status. And you're willing to sacrifice everything to achieve that goal. Because health is not the goal. Resource accumulation is a goal. Power is a goal. I guess you can kind of map everything back to status, power, sex.
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Yeah, I guess it's like the goals that society has. If the imagination is that if existence is the highest virtue, like we want to hold on to this with everything we have, those other objectives become secondary considerations, but subject to our own well-being. And we just haven't made that transition yet. But yeah, what do you think?
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Yeah. Yeah. I think, yeah, to build on your answer, I'd say like when, when death is inevitable and
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humans choose games within the selection options so you can pursue those four archetypes if death doesn't is not inevitable it changes the underlying structure of society like everything changes that's my primary hypothesis is that's what this moment is about like that is the only thing happening right now for humans is like we we knew we were going to die before
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And now there's this open question of will we be the first generation to not die? If that's true, everything we've imagined we care about changes.
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Yeah, everyone, yeah. If you look at this from like the biggest timescales, like a quick review of history, buddha was like hey like there's some suffering with life and the best way to approach this is to detach yourself this whole a full path and then confucius had this idea of familial relationships within community muhammad said we should submit to god jesus said i am the son of god
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adam smith said there's this invisible hand of markets and capitalism and these systems that can emerge and then america was like we the people and karl marx was like actually it's class warfare and it's like we have these big ideologies that have shaped our reality but really humanity is run by a very small number of things like political structures economic structures ideological structures and
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In this moment, we're experiencing a radical change of technology. And when that happens, we humans want to find things that are useful to our objectives. And so we say, like, hey, capitalism, can you help out? Hey, democracy. Hey, Christianity. Hey, Islam. Like, we kind of search and say, who has answers?
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And right now, every system society has fails to answer the fundamental question, what do we do as a species? What do we do as individuals? When AI is emergent, when we're building superintelligence, what do I do and what do we do? And no existing structure can answer that. That's true. You look throughout history, these ideologies largely emerge in response to technological change.
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It happens and we say, we need help with a new ideological structure. And so that's what don't die is don't die is basically meant to answer like be the answer. And that's why I think it can become on par with the major ideologies in a few years time that this is the new way we structure society.
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It's huge. Entirely true. And we've tried for the past few years. So we take all these measurements and we say like, what is the biological age of blank organ? And then we say, all right, now we've reviewed all the scientific literature that's out there. How do you either slow down that speed of aging or reverse aging damage?
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Build habits.
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Cheat days.
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They teach you bad habits. They inflict damage upon the body. They set unrealistic expectations. It's a bad memetic all the way down.
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I love outdoor adventure. So I drove a dog sled in the Arctic. I raced in the Moroccan desert. I went to a volcano in Iceland. So I'm rich with irony where I'm the most don't die person in human history. And I also love to play in adventure.
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I do not drink coffee.
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My emotions and intellect now are so steady from high quality sleep and a good diet and routine exercise that anything that creates a roller coaster of change, I avoid. And so I don't do caffeine. I don't do nicotine, no stimulants. And my mood is just stable all day long. It's beautiful.
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Some people do very well with it. So I'm just sensitive to caffeine. So I think a lot of people do well, do your thing. Again, I have all my responses, do you and follow the data.
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So, for example, with my left ear, we've said, can you take my left ear from age 64 to age 63 and 62 and all the way down to age 18? And so in that case, we've had no success with hearing. There are a few stem cell therapies that are in research, but no effective treatment. So we've had no success at all. So once you lose it right now, it's gone.
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Exactly. Yeah, with Blueprint, we have, I think, the most robust measurement protocol in the world. It's blood, it's your speed of aging, 11 organ ages, full body scan, and microplastics. So it's basically a measurement profile that gives you the same value as like a $25,000 executive physical in a fraction of the price.
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So we've tried to make full body measurement the most affordable and best in the world.
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To not follow laws.
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All laws.
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To reframe it from don't do to how to. So society would be instructions on how to. We would have enough alignment within us and among us
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that not do would be a thing of the past because we just wouldn't be motivated to do bad behaviors to self and others and it would be a relic of the past that we'd be amazed looking back that humans did things that would be on that would be harmful to self or others you host don't die dinners uh you've had a friend and guest of the show kim kardashian at one of the dinners what does a don't die dinner look like what happens at these dinners
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We can't tell you. Crazy things. People who attend will say it's the most consequential conversation of their life. So we spend two hours. We do a bunch of age tests to just introduce the idea that you can measure biological age. Then we serve everybody food. And then we have a two-hour discussion led by five thought experiments. And everybody participates. So everybody talks. Everybody engages.
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I'm the moderator. And so it's very snappy. But people leave. Even years later, people still message me and say, I just can't stop thinking about these ideas. So it's really a transformative time together. So you do get to eat. I don't eat. My guests eat. I don't.
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Yeah, I'm on all social platforms and Blueprint provides the supplements, nutrition, health. My endeavor is about the future of the human race. I'm trying to do a world a solid in providing every calorie, every test for the best health in the entire world. So if that interests you, great. If not, my objective primarily is the future of the species.
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Whereas other parts of my body, like my speed of aging and my heart and my lungs, we've had great success lowering that biological age, if you look at it anatomically or functionally. And so some things we've had great success, but this is the point where When people look at me and they say, the guy is so busy trying not to die, he's forgetting how to live.
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And the flip side of that is when you lose function,
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movement eyesight hearing right your life begins to deteriorate two degrees like your mother saw in ways you can't even imagine and so it really is like this respect for our conscious existence and our biological capabilities and so really i think that's what i'm trying to do is that the new virtue is caring for our conscious existence and not being whimsical and throwing it away with behaviors that just are not necessary
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I guess this is, I think, the coolest question right now is that in previous time periods, you were born and you died in predictable fashion. There was nothing you could do to stop the process. And so now what's different is that we are making progress on age related decline, even before a baby's conceived. So now there's embryo selection, right? So it's, don't die is happening before conception.
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And then recent studies have shown that you can take a mouse and it's like last week of life and regenerate it and double the lifespan of that mouse. And so we have technologies that can extend life before conception, midlife, and even at the end of life. And so now that's, I'm saying this is really, it's full spectrum.
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that there is no point of no return at this at this moment i mean in this moment yes but like increasingly it's becoming this open question is there and i think that's the most interesting and exciting thing my dad is 71 i think most of his friends are just like we're getting close it's almost time but man he's got this ferociousness to live life that i'm really inspired by
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I don't think that any human can say anything intelligent more than one year from now. We can say we think the Earth is going to continue to orbit around the sun with a certain degree of stability. In terms of how long are we going to live... How will cultural norms persist? What will be normal? What will not be normal?
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I think given how fast AI is developing, we cannot say anything intelligent beyond a year.
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Yeah. I mean, I think that if you look at some of the best AI companies, like Dario from Anthropic the other day wrote this blog post where he's imagining, and I agree with him, that it's possible we make 100 years worth of progress in the next five years. That when we bring up these new AI models, that we can do things that otherwise would take us 100 years to do.
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Now, that does not mean that these therapies will be available overnight. We still have to go through the process. But I do think that we are looking at this possibility. So it's like, when I say things like, we may be the first generation to not die, people are like, stupid. Like, no. I get that from like this vantage point, we can't see how the pieces of the puzzle come together.
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Like it's not clear to us which things do what and when, but that's not the point. It's really, you're trying to pattern match large macro scale trends. And if you say how fast is intelligence moving and when you acquire intelligence, what can that intelligence do on a macro scale? I think it really is a robust hypothesis that we may be the first generation to not die.
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we just put this in context let's imagine you and i travel back in time a million years ago and we're with homo erectus and we say homo erectus tell us about the future of intelligent existence like what are we going to evolve into right now homo erectus has models maybe of hunting of like you know weather patterns or of like danger but homo erectus is not going to be able to tell you
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that in this new science field called biology, we're going to figure out that there's molecules and we're going to, or they're not going to be able to tell you that in this new world of quantum mechanics or in this new world of silicon transistors, they don't have any models to articulate what things could come about and why. And so they just lack any models to articulate anything intelligent.
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And so I wonder in this moment, if we are just like Homo erectus, Where if you say like, what will the future bring? What will the norms be? What will our proclivities be? What will we want? We have no idea. We don't have any models that help us understand. And so that's why I think that if you want to be a genius, lean into that you probably don't know.
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That everything we think we have known is now going to be called into question. And that the new genius is leaning into the unknown.
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awful, like the worst. So I started entrepreneurship as, you know, 21 years old. I started building companies. And the ethos is, you know, you would hear stories of like so-and-so stayed up two nights in a row coding all night. They're amazing. They're a genius. They're so, you know, great. And so that story would be like a status symbol. Like they're important. They have power.
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You should respect them. And those stories propagate. Then others are like, I want to have status and I want to be respected and I want to do cool stuff. And so you repeat these patterns of sleep deprivation and harming your health. Now that's just foolishness. Like that, we know from the evidence that you stay up for over 24 hours, you're legally drunk.
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Like you're just as intoxicated had you consumed like your 0.08 alcohol level. And so we've really bought into this myth I did myself. And so I ran myself ragged, like just awful, terrible sleep, terrible diet. I was depressed for 10 years. So I was kind of obsessed with killing myself for 10 years. And it was the most awful decade of existence. So that was my starting point.