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Bo Hines

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All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Trump vs Powell, Solving the Debt Crisis, The $10T AGI Prize, GENIUS Act Becomes Law

is this your first bill that you've gotten done as a senator it is um i've served in the senate for over four years but we were in the minority for the past four years so this is the first opportunity since the senate was taken by the republicans to actually drive legislation through and the fact that we had the house representatives of the senate and the white house made this possible it was just a threshold concern we worked so hard as you know to retake the senate in 2024 to retake the white house in 2024 and hold on to the house representatives it worked

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Trump vs Powell, Solving the Debt Crisis, The $10T AGI Prize, GENIUS Act Becomes Law

And that's the only thing that's enabled us to deliver this type of meaningful legislation.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Trump vs Powell, Solving the Debt Crisis, The $10T AGI Prize, GENIUS Act Becomes Law

And I say this too, it's been a great team that has done this.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Trump vs Powell, Solving the Debt Crisis, The $10T AGI Prize, GENIUS Act Becomes Law

I may be the author of the legislation, but the leadership that you've brought to bear from the White House, coming in and donating your time from the private sector, working as a volunteer here,

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Trump vs Powell, Solving the Debt Crisis, The $10T AGI Prize, GENIUS Act Becomes Law

but making certain that the leadership and the vision is present here in the executive branch, you've been absolutely great.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Trump vs Powell, Solving the Debt Crisis, The $10T AGI Prize, GENIUS Act Becomes Law

And that vision, I think, is carried forward into the Senate, the House.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Trump vs Powell, Solving the Debt Crisis, The $10T AGI Prize, GENIUS Act Becomes Law

More and more people are understanding this and catching on.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Trump vs Powell, Solving the Debt Crisis, The $10T AGI Prize, GENIUS Act Becomes Law

And I think what we've done today is launch the catalyst for what's going to make America the crypto capital of the world.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Trump vs Powell, Solving the Debt Crisis, The $10T AGI Prize, GENIUS Act Becomes Law

Well, I think the Founding Fathers made it actually quite difficult to legislate for a reason.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Trump vs Powell, Solving the Debt Crisis, The $10T AGI Prize, GENIUS Act Becomes Law

But it is difficult.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Trump vs Powell, Solving the Debt Crisis, The $10T AGI Prize, GENIUS Act Becomes Law

It's taken months upon months to get to this point.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Trump vs Powell, Solving the Debt Crisis, The $10T AGI Prize, GENIUS Act Becomes Law

And the legislation, the Genius Act has been killed a couple of times in the media.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Trump vs Powell, Solving the Debt Crisis, The $10T AGI Prize, GENIUS Act Becomes Law

Elizabeth Warren declared victory early on that she killed the bill.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Trump vs Powell, Solving the Debt Crisis, The $10T AGI Prize, GENIUS Act Becomes Law

That didn't happen.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Trump vs Powell, Solving the Debt Crisis, The $10T AGI Prize, GENIUS Act Becomes Law

She didn't have the juice to do it.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Trump vs Powell, Solving the Debt Crisis, The $10T AGI Prize, GENIUS Act Becomes Law

But there have been many, many attempts.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Trump vs Powell, Solving the Debt Crisis, The $10T AGI Prize, GENIUS Act Becomes Law

There's a fundamental reason for this, David, because Elizabeth Warren and her crowd want to see a central bank digital currency.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Trump vs Powell, Solving the Debt Crisis, The $10T AGI Prize, GENIUS Act Becomes Law

What they want is control of our transactions.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Trump vs Powell, Solving the Debt Crisis, The $10T AGI Prize, GENIUS Act Becomes Law

They want the ability.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Trump vs Powell, Solving the Debt Crisis, The $10T AGI Prize, GENIUS Act Becomes Law

They're the ones that wanted to get to a $600 threshold for your Venmo transactions, reporting everything.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Trump vs Powell, Solving the Debt Crisis, The $10T AGI Prize, GENIUS Act Becomes Law

They want the ability to do choke point 3.0.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Trump vs Powell, Solving the Debt Crisis, The $10T AGI Prize, GENIUS Act Becomes Law

And if you think about it, they had visibility in our transactions, the ability to centralize and control them.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Trump vs Powell, Solving the Debt Crisis, The $10T AGI Prize, GENIUS Act Becomes Law

They could control our lives.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Trump vs Powell, Solving the Debt Crisis, The $10T AGI Prize, GENIUS Act Becomes Law

It may be okay for the Chinese Communist Party, but that's not going to work here in America.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Trump vs Powell, Solving the Debt Crisis, The $10T AGI Prize, GENIUS Act Becomes Law

And this legislation put the final nail in the coffin to that.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Trump vs Powell, Solving the Debt Crisis, The $10T AGI Prize, GENIUS Act Becomes Law

It's really amazing that you got it through.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Trump vs Powell, Solving the Debt Crisis, The $10T AGI Prize, GENIUS Act Becomes Law

We didn't have all the Republicans.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Trump vs Powell, Solving the Debt Crisis, The $10T AGI Prize, GENIUS Act Becomes Law

We lost two Republicans.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Trump vs Powell, Solving the Debt Crisis, The $10T AGI Prize, GENIUS Act Becomes Law

But...

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Trump vs Powell, Solving the Debt Crisis, The $10T AGI Prize, GENIUS Act Becomes Law

What enabled me to get the other nine Democrats to come on board was really an education process.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Trump vs Powell, Solving the Debt Crisis, The $10T AGI Prize, GENIUS Act Becomes Law

Because at its core, this shouldn't be a partisan issue.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Trump vs Powell, Solving the Debt Crisis, The $10T AGI Prize, GENIUS Act Becomes Law

This is about taking America's payment system into the 21st century.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Trump vs Powell, Solving the Debt Crisis, The $10T AGI Prize, GENIUS Act Becomes Law

This is about making our nation more competitive.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Trump vs Powell, Solving the Debt Crisis, The $10T AGI Prize, GENIUS Act Becomes Law

This is about expanding demand for the US Treasury securities that we issue.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Trump vs Powell, Solving the Debt Crisis, The $10T AGI Prize, GENIUS Act Becomes Law

This is about the dominance of the US dollar.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Trump vs Powell, Solving the Debt Crisis, The $10T AGI Prize, GENIUS Act Becomes Law

It's hard not to like it, but I think there's a partisan bent here in Washington that's so strong.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Trump vs Powell, Solving the Debt Crisis, The $10T AGI Prize, GENIUS Act Becomes Law

that their objective is just to keep Republicans or Donald Trump or David Sachs from getting a win here.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Trump vs Powell, Solving the Debt Crisis, The $10T AGI Prize, GENIUS Act Becomes Law

And through education and through listening, and frankly, I don't think it's my legislative skills.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Trump vs Powell, Solving the Debt Crisis, The $10T AGI Prize, GENIUS Act Becomes Law

I think it's the business skills that I brought to the legislative branch.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Trump vs Powell, Solving the Debt Crisis, The $10T AGI Prize, GENIUS Act Becomes Law

I think it's through the business skills and the ability to negotiate that we've actually gotten to this point today.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Trump vs Powell, Solving the Debt Crisis, The $10T AGI Prize, GENIUS Act Becomes Law

There's a piece of the story missing because I started my career at a place called the Boston Consulting Group.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Trump vs Powell, Solving the Debt Crisis, The $10T AGI Prize, GENIUS Act Becomes Law

And they sent me to Tokyo for three years back in the late 80s, early 90s.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Trump vs Powell, Solving the Debt Crisis, The $10T AGI Prize, GENIUS Act Becomes Law

That's when I learned the language.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Trump vs Powell, Solving the Debt Crisis, The $10T AGI Prize, GENIUS Act Becomes Law

And to go back as U.S.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Trump vs Powell, Solving the Debt Crisis, The $10T AGI Prize, GENIUS Act Becomes Law

Ambassador to Japan under President Trump in 2017, the honor of a lifetime.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Trump vs Powell, Solving the Debt Crisis, The $10T AGI Prize, GENIUS Act Becomes Law

I can tell you representing the greatest nation in the world, any place in the world is an honor.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Trump vs Powell, Solving the Debt Crisis, The $10T AGI Prize, GENIUS Act Becomes Law

But particularly in a region like that, that has so much strategic, you know, so many strategic initiatives that are underway right now.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Trump vs Powell, Solving the Debt Crisis, The $10T AGI Prize, GENIUS Act Becomes Law

You think about this.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Trump vs Powell, Solving the Debt Crisis, The $10T AGI Prize, GENIUS Act Becomes Law

Japan has more U.S.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Trump vs Powell, Solving the Debt Crisis, The $10T AGI Prize, GENIUS Act Becomes Law

military stationed there than any place else in the world.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Trump vs Powell, Solving the Debt Crisis, The $10T AGI Prize, GENIUS Act Becomes Law

Japan is one of the toughest environments in the world.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Trump vs Powell, Solving the Debt Crisis, The $10T AGI Prize, GENIUS Act Becomes Law

If you think about the neighborhood that they're in, North Korea, Russia, China right at your doorstep.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Trump vs Powell, Solving the Debt Crisis, The $10T AGI Prize, GENIUS Act Becomes Law

The time that I spent as ambassador really helped me dig in deeply in terms of the national security issues that our nation confronts and those that our allies confront.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Trump vs Powell, Solving the Debt Crisis, The $10T AGI Prize, GENIUS Act Becomes Law

At the same time, we did two trade deals with Japan.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Trump vs Powell, Solving the Debt Crisis, The $10T AGI Prize, GENIUS Act Becomes Law

nobody thought it could be done and we were able to navigate that with Jameson Greer working right beside Bob Blytheiser.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Trump vs Powell, Solving the Debt Crisis, The $10T AGI Prize, GENIUS Act Becomes Law

I loved working with those guys and we got two great trade deals done.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Trump vs Powell, Solving the Debt Crisis, The $10T AGI Prize, GENIUS Act Becomes Law

Jameson is back now as the U.S.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Trump vs Powell, Solving the Debt Crisis, The $10T AGI Prize, GENIUS Act Becomes Law

Trade Representative and I'm very optimistic that we're going to see more trade flourish.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Trump vs Powell, Solving the Debt Crisis, The $10T AGI Prize, GENIUS Act Becomes Law

President Trump knows how to do this.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Trump vs Powell, Solving the Debt Crisis, The $10T AGI Prize, GENIUS Act Becomes Law

I've been with him in the trade negotiations.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Trump vs Powell, Solving the Debt Crisis, The $10T AGI Prize, GENIUS Act Becomes Law

He knows exactly how to navigate this and I'm looking forward to great results from our trade negotiations as well.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Trump vs Powell, Solving the Debt Crisis, The $10T AGI Prize, GENIUS Act Becomes Law

What's happening right now in the United States Senate, we just put through a rescissions package for a little bit over $9 billion.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Trump vs Powell, Solving the Debt Crisis, The $10T AGI Prize, GENIUS Act Becomes Law

That's a small amount.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Trump vs Powell, Solving the Debt Crisis, The $10T AGI Prize, GENIUS Act Becomes Law

It's a large amount of money, of course, but it's a small amount relative to the entire budget.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Trump vs Powell, Solving the Debt Crisis, The $10T AGI Prize, GENIUS Act Becomes Law

And the Democrats have had, they've just gone apoplectic over this.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Trump vs Powell, Solving the Debt Crisis, The $10T AGI Prize, GENIUS Act Becomes Law

Any effort to cut back on spending, somehow they've gotta be against that.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Trump vs Powell, Solving the Debt Crisis, The $10T AGI Prize, GENIUS Act Becomes Law

They're only for spending, and we're trying to bring physical sanity back to America.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Trump vs Powell, Solving the Debt Crisis, The $10T AGI Prize, GENIUS Act Becomes Law

So the focus is gonna be to continue to find opportunities to basically legislate what has been found in Doge,

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Trump vs Powell, Solving the Debt Crisis, The $10T AGI Prize, GENIUS Act Becomes Law

the other activities well beyond those every department head every agency is looking for ways to streamline regulations and to cut costs and to operate more efficiently and i've got to believe there are tremendous opportunities there and many billions more dollars that will come out of the budget as a result but we've gone into a fairly partisan mode right now and i think it's going to be tough for the next little while while we're in this sort of partisan uh gap i think what we should be doing is focusing on market structure

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Trump vs Powell, Solving the Debt Crisis, The $10T AGI Prize, GENIUS Act Becomes Law

for digital assets.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Trump vs Powell, Solving the Debt Crisis, The $10T AGI Prize, GENIUS Act Becomes Law

And we're working on that.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Trump vs Powell, Solving the Debt Crisis, The $10T AGI Prize, GENIUS Act Becomes Law

I just talked to some of my colleagues in the house today about how we're going to marshal that forward.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Trump vs Powell, Solving the Debt Crisis, The $10T AGI Prize, GENIUS Act Becomes Law

I'm going to look forward to your leadership there as well and many people in the industry.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Trump vs Powell, Solving the Debt Crisis, The $10T AGI Prize, GENIUS Act Becomes Law

Yeah, they called it regulation by enforcement.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Trump vs Powell, Solving the Debt Crisis, The $10T AGI Prize, GENIUS Act Becomes Law

You don't know what the rules are, but they just launched an enforcement proceeding against you.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Trump vs Powell, Solving the Debt Crisis, The $10T AGI Prize, GENIUS Act Becomes Law

And President Trump was funny today because he looked at the audience, he said, I guess half of you were being prosecuted here about a year ago by the previous administration.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Trump vs Powell, Solving the Debt Crisis, The $10T AGI Prize, GENIUS Act Becomes Law

Things are going to change.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Trump vs Powell, Solving the Debt Crisis, The $10T AGI Prize, GENIUS Act Becomes Law

Well, I'm telling you, we're going to continue to work along those lanes.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Trump vs Powell, Solving the Debt Crisis, The $10T AGI Prize, GENIUS Act Becomes Law

The big, beautiful bill is doing, it's oriented toward growth stimulation, right?

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Trump vs Powell, Solving the Debt Crisis, The $10T AGI Prize, GENIUS Act Becomes Law

Everything that we can do to stimulate more capital investment in the United States is embodied in the tax law as part of that bill.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Trump vs Powell, Solving the Debt Crisis, The $10T AGI Prize, GENIUS Act Becomes Law

So with the growth coming out of the big, beautiful bill, and if we continue to go through the cuts with rescissions, I'm very optimistic that we're going to get back on the right path.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Trump vs Powell, Solving the Debt Crisis, The $10T AGI Prize, GENIUS Act Becomes Law

That's the objective.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Trump vs Powell, Solving the Debt Crisis, The $10T AGI Prize, GENIUS Act Becomes Law

That's the goal.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Trump vs Powell, Solving the Debt Crisis, The $10T AGI Prize, GENIUS Act Becomes Law

Meanwhile, taking us into the 21st century with our payments, with digital assets, we're going to continue to work along those lanes as well.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Trump vs Powell, Solving the Debt Crisis, The $10T AGI Prize, GENIUS Act Becomes Law

And I appreciate your leadership in that regard.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Trump vs Powell, Solving the Debt Crisis, The $10T AGI Prize, GENIUS Act Becomes Law

It's been over 10 years to get out of the Senate Bank.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Trump vs Powell, Solving the Debt Crisis, The $10T AGI Prize, GENIUS Act Becomes Law

One of my friends wrote me yesterday and he said, I didn't think you could get the 10 commandments passed out of the United States Senate.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Trump vs Powell, Solving the Debt Crisis, The $10T AGI Prize, GENIUS Act Becomes Law

And I don't want to take the credit for it because it's been a wonderful team.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Trump vs Powell, Solving the Debt Crisis, The $10T AGI Prize, GENIUS Act Becomes Law

As I said, your leadership in the White House and the executive branch, our friends in the House of Representatives, my great staff led by Luke Pettit, done just a terrific job.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Trump vs Powell, Solving the Debt Crisis, The $10T AGI Prize, GENIUS Act Becomes Law

And in the Senate, too, we've had great leadership.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Trump vs Powell, Solving the Debt Crisis, The $10T AGI Prize, GENIUS Act Becomes Law

Our chairman for the Senate Banking Committee is Tim Scott.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Trump vs Powell, Solving the Debt Crisis, The $10T AGI Prize, GENIUS Act Becomes Law

He's been a true proponent of this.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Trump vs Powell, Solving the Debt Crisis, The $10T AGI Prize, GENIUS Act Becomes Law

Cynthia Lummis is very focused on digital assets and was very supportive of me as she chairs the Digital Assets Subcommittee of our Banking Committee.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Trump vs Powell, Solving the Debt Crisis, The $10T AGI Prize, GENIUS Act Becomes Law

So we've had great support in the Senate, and I think it's going to continue to grow both sides of the aisle.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Trump vs Powell, Solving the Debt Crisis, The $10T AGI Prize, GENIUS Act Becomes Law

I think you got 18.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Trump vs Powell, Solving the Debt Crisis, The $10T AGI Prize, GENIUS Act Becomes Law

And the great thing about Kristen too, she was a Wall Street lawyer at Davis Polk.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Trump vs Powell, Solving the Debt Crisis, The $10T AGI Prize, GENIUS Act Becomes Law

She understands the markets and to have her level of technical expertise was a huge asset.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Trump vs Powell, Solving the Debt Crisis, The $10T AGI Prize, GENIUS Act Becomes Law

And she was able to really convey to the Democrat side that we were here trying to get the right thing done for the country.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Trump vs Powell, Solving the Debt Crisis, The $10T AGI Prize, GENIUS Act Becomes Law

This was not a partisan effort.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Trump vs Powell, Solving the Debt Crisis, The $10T AGI Prize, GENIUS Act Becomes Law

This was something that really is aimed at growth, leadership, technology leadership, and frankly, dollar dominance that we all should be for.