Blake Griffin
Appearances
Blocks w/ Neal Brennan
Blake Griffin
I was like, hey, you know, you just got drafted. Next year you're going to play 38 minutes. It's just not relatable at all.
Blocks w/ Neal Brennan
Blake Griffin
I said it to you a long time ago. At the end of the day, we're playing a game that was invented...
Blocks w/ Neal Brennan
Blake Griffin
to pass the time in school for children yes it's a pe game yes it blew up yeah like at the end of the day that's what we're doing so that's also another thing too that i try to try to like like don't think you are just like god's gift to this earth and like you're like a above this or you're above that like at the end of the day like remember what we're doing we're playing a game but
Blocks w/ Neal Brennan
Blake Griffin
And like another thing, too, about coaching, like coaching in the NBA is mostly managing ego. well that's what you said one time that you wouldn't want to coach absolutely not it sounds awful i i the coach guys who can go coach i'm so impressed that they're able to like compartmentalize and and be able to do all these things like do i think i could go coach maybe But I don't think I'd enjoy it.
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Blake Griffin
Yeah. And guys truly enjoy it. Why can JJ do it? I think the way his brain works is – He's got grid brain. Yeah. I got grid brain. I can see it. He's very, very analytical. And he's also – I was playing golf with him a couple years, I think, before – before he took this job, so maybe a year and a half ago now. And he was like, dude, I got that itch. I got that competitive itch.
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Blake Griffin
And I could tell he was like going to take a job sometime in the near future, you know, because at first I think he was putting it off. And, you know, what's crazy is JJ said to me, we were playing golf and he was like,
Blocks w/ Neal Brennan
Blake Griffin
you know what's crazy is like this might sound a little crazy but um you know you might not ever like really truly experience like just like full like happiness until you retire and I was like wow that was like oh yeah and I I agreed like I I and I I agree to this day now having been retired I was still playing at the time and it's not that like we're unhappy by any means well that's just you saw Adam Silver said that most players are unhappy
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Blake Griffin
Yes. I consider myself – it's actually a question that I get all the time and people are – They're always a little bit weird about that question. They're like, oh, yeah, how are you enjoying retirement?
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Blake Griffin
it's a direct result of social media a lot of players are unhappy i'm an anxious person myself he said joking a little that's interesting i mean it is so it's such a roller coaster yeah like maybe i can see that he was talking about like the isolation of it yeah i mean that's what people don't see a lot of like on the planes and the hotel rooms and the meetings you know like all that is like
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Blake Griffin
I can't complain at all, but like it's a little bit more mundane and it's less way less glamorous than you think it is because you also have to get your work in. And like I said, it was not because I wasn't happy, but like, man, like for the first time in your life, in your life, especially as an adult. I make my own schedule. I get to do things that I've never done.
Blocks w/ Neal Brennan
Blake Griffin
I'll get in the weight room and toss some things down. Do you still lift weights? I still do. Why? For a year, I was pretty lazy. And I would just kind of randomly exercise. But recently, I've gotten back on. I'm just better mentally when I do. And not for nearly as long. My body doesn't hurt anymore. It's just to get a little movement in. No more steroids. Yeah. Now I can. No.
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Blake Griffin
now i can actually i might start yeah fuck um yeah i don't know it's uh it's a weird thing to say it's it's i understand it's probably like a hard thing to grasp like you're not happy like no we were we are happy but it's just like a whole new world that has just been opened up and it's like it's been really exciting and and yeah to control your schedule is huge
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Blake Griffin
Well, maybe. No, no, no. I'm saying in front of hundreds of thousands of people, you're just going to get embarrassed because you didn't work out. I remember I had this thought, like I was maybe two months in, and I woke up and I was like, I'd still kind of been working out, and I woke up and I was like,
Blocks w/ Neal Brennan
Blake Griffin
planning on working out and I was like I just don't feel like working out to myself and I was like oh I don't I don't have to like I can just go about my day yeah and like that too is just like a because there's moments like especially when you're an athlete like you you don't you wake up and you don't want to work out you don't feel like it just like everybody else yeah and you just have to
Blocks w/ Neal Brennan
Blake Griffin
Like, oh, your fame died. See, because that was not what it was for me. I looked at it as like, this is awesome. This is like a whole new life that I have never experienced.
Blocks w/ Neal Brennan
Blake Griffin
You have to find a way to do it. And the best ones are the ones that find ways to do it. And not only just do it, but like push yourself and get better that day. Those are big days, right? Those are big mental days. Like where you finish a workout when you didn't want to and you pushed yourself really hard and you walk away and you're like, yeah. I just took a step.
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Blake Griffin
Yeah, I mean, I played basketball my whole life. I don't know when I was good, but it became very, very serious for me. Yeah, like eighth, ninth grade. But I'm saying you get a lot of status from it.
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Blake Griffin
were there times where you weren't real coachable that you wish you like looking back you like yeah yeah there's yeah there's definitely i mean there's there's this is regrets like anybody else right like there's there's times where i probably maybe didn't especially in the heat of the moment like i maybe didn't react the right way or i said the wrong thing um that
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Blake Griffin
yeah yeah eighth grade ninth grade like started to get more i always tell people like you just like high school you become sort of like a local city like you name and then you become a state name and then you go to college and people know you're in college and you just sort of you sort of keep like growing in that like i didn't have like an overnight like thing like maybe when it came to the nba you become more of a name globally
Blocks w/ Neal Brennan
Blake Griffin
I'm not even gonna touch that story. But yeah, for sure. Especially when I was younger, I sometimes though do wish that coaches, or some of the coaches maybe that I had, they just took the time to understand guys' different ways they tick and the way they work. That was sort of the disconnect for me sometimes. But then 100%, some of that was my fault. What was your fault?
Blocks w/ Neal Brennan
Blake Griffin
The way I would react to something, just my competitiveness wouldn't allow me to concede something. That's one of his blocks, by the way, competitiveness.
Blocks w/ Neal Brennan
Blake Griffin
Yeah, for sure. And I don't it's not something I really like dwell on. I'm not like, God ruined everything. I just wish, you know, there's there's I'm sure every single person can look toward a situation and be like, I could have handled that better. Yeah. You know? Yeah. Like that's that's what it is. Is there such a thing as being too competitive as a player in a game? Yeah.
Blocks w/ Neal Brennan
Blake Griffin
I think you can sort of get into this competitive matchup with your matchup where you're just like, I got to beat this guy. And sometimes that's to the detriment of the team. You always have to keep the team or the main goal, which is obviously winning, in mind. And sometimes I would get into that. You sort of get lost in it.
Blocks w/ Neal Brennan
Blake Griffin
You're not consciously making this decision like, screw this win, I'm trying to go... You're just like, it's a thing. And especially when somebody starts talking shit to you, you're like, oh, I got to go at him. I got to be tough. And that can be obviously detrimental. The competitiveness, like...
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Blake Griffin
Yeah, your downfall sometimes is just like doing too much, trying to do too much, trying to take on too much by yourself can obviously be detrimental. So competitiveness is like a very important thing, but it also needs to be finely tuned. Right, but how? Other than just like... being better, making more shots.
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Blake Griffin
Yeah, because my best performances were always just flowing. Like, you know, they talk about getting to that state, right? Like, that's how it feels. It truly feels like you're just like, it's slow motion. You're just doing like you're... You're going through all these things that you've worked on thousands and thousands of hours.
Blocks w/ Neal Brennan
Blake Griffin
And when you think too much, I always found it was because I was like, I wanted this so badly. Like, I wanted to do this. I wanted to score this. I wanted to...
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Blake Griffin
uh accomplish whatever like thing that goal i had set out for and when i just let the game come to me which is a very hard thing to do to just relax yeah and over time as i got older it was much easier um but early on you know you're always pressing for sure and it like it almost never works It can work just because we're all so, this is our job.
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Blake Griffin
uh but like it came in increments for me so there was never a moment where you're like okay this is a little this that was a that was a very big jump that was hard to deal with they're not like hard to deal with i just i do remember uh my rookie year we played against the knicks and i had like two or three dunks that were they kind of went like viral back when twitter was you know young
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Blake Griffin
Everybody's very skilled at this sport, so it can work, but it would be easier and it would go a lot further if you just kinda let games come to you. And it's hard. It's easy for me to say as somebody at that point in my career who's playing 38 minutes a game and I got to shoot whenever I want.
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Blake Griffin
It's hard for guys who are coming off the bench and they have a four-minute span to really show that they're contributing to this game or helping or being an asset. And it's hard for those guys. I felt that towards the end of my career when I would come off the bench. Like, all right, I got to get in here and I got to do well in these first five minutes or there's a chance I don't play again.
Blocks w/ Neal Brennan
Blake Griffin
Yeah, and that's kind of like what I did towards the end of my career, especially with Boston. It was just like, hey, go in, rebound, hustle, dive on the floor, set a screen, hit an open shot. But I wasn't going down the court and like, all right, get out of the way.
Blocks w/ Neal Brennan
Blake Griffin
It was just like not the same. People don't want that. That ain't who you are no more. That's not what the folks in Boston wanted.
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Blake Griffin
I mean, he's older than me, so we've never really played on the same team. So he seems like nice.
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Blake Griffin
Yeah, I honestly didn't understand how that became sort of a thing. Some of the guys that have been on the team, we talk about it all the time, our team was under a crazy microscope. It was high stress.
Blocks w/ Neal Brennan
Blake Griffin
And I remember that was kind of like a time where I was like, wow, it's never really slowed down since then. And it just went to the moon. But like I said, I was sort of prepared for it. I'd been prepared for it since my ninth grade year, when you start to get a little bit of that. And you learn how to handle it at each level.
Blocks w/ Neal Brennan
Blake Griffin
I think we were just like not a team that was like easy to root for. Oh, yeah. A lot of text. I would complain to refs.
Blocks w/ Neal Brennan
Blake Griffin
CP, like, we had a bunch of guys who were just like, you know, were just like, I don't know that we're like. Also, JJ, like, coming from Duke, he's like a Duke guy. People just automatically, for some reason, hate Duke guys. We just, like, and some of it was on us. Like, we put that on ourselves. But I wouldn't even put JJ in that category of, like, not easy to root for. It was just like...
Blocks w/ Neal Brennan
Blake Griffin
I brought a lot of that on myself, and I truly think a lot of that, sometimes my arguments with refs was out of just frustration and competitiveness and something else combined.
Blocks w/ Neal Brennan
Blake Griffin
I knew what I was doing, obviously, but I was just like, what? Like, what are you... And then sometimes after the game, I'm like, oof, that was bad. I wasn't even close. He was right. It was just like the heat of the moment. It's hard not to. For me, it was hard.
Blocks w/ Neal Brennan
Blake Griffin
Oh, for sure. Oh, for sure. And I would try to make it a point to do that. If I was ever clearly wrong or like, the next game's the next game. And I think the refs are so good about, or most of them are so good about, hey, all good, we're good. You go up to them the next game, hey, what's up, man? Joke with them for a second. You move on. But yeah, there's just like anything else.
Blocks w/ Neal Brennan
Blake Griffin
Like I said earlier, there's times where I was like, probably should have left the ref alone on that one.
Blocks w/ Neal Brennan
Blake Griffin
It was that. It was also competitiveness. Adam Devine has season tickets.
Blocks w/ Neal Brennan
Blake Griffin
Some of it was just immaturity, too, on my part. I just didn't know how to navigate talking to a ref yet. What's the right way to do it? Is there a right way to do it? Yeah, you give them a break on little things and then you maybe wait till the next play's over, dead ball, whatever, go up to them, hey.
Blocks w/ Neal Brennan
Blake Griffin
you just do me a favor just watch watch that or you go up and it made a call that you thought was wrong like there's no way or just like have a con have that like one-on-one conversation they don't want to be yelled at in front of yeah exactly just like we don't want to be like anybody nobody wants to be yelled at and that's what i got better at as i as i got older but still there's moments where even when i was older i'd like i'd be like
Blocks w/ Neal Brennan
Blake Griffin
So it's always interesting for me, because I always think about people who just overnight, they become famous. And it's just overwhelming. I don't really have that.
Blocks w/ Neal Brennan
Blake Griffin
Yeah, for the height of our Clippers days, I was 21 to 27. Yeah. yeah it's not very old no yeah that was like the clippers team and then i was i was in detroit at like 28. yeah you know like yeah and then you know like by the time i was 32 i was like the elder statesman yeah so old and do you look at guy and yeah i guess the guy if a guy says i looked up to you when i was nine
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Blake Griffin
I mean, my rookie year was 20, right? So I played 14 years. So 14 years later, my last season, when I was playing my rookie year, a rookie who was 19 was five years old.
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Blake Griffin
You know? It's hard to think about when you're in the moment, but then some conversation, like I said, hits you and you're just like, oh, wow. Yeah. This is crazy.
Blocks w/ Neal Brennan
Blake Griffin
what was there anything physically you could have done differently i mean i think like as as treatment and and sports physio advances like yeah sure now but back then i was doing everything that i like the the leading research i was doing everything that i possibly could physically to to keep going and to to take care of my body I mean, I've had nine surgeries.
Blocks w/ Neal Brennan
Blake Griffin
And, like, to me, I'm like, I had nine surgeries and I played 14 years.
Blocks w/ Neal Brennan
Blake Griffin
Like I said, it's a, it's a game, but yeah, it is stressful to like, if you have a bad game to hear everybody talk about it for a long, long time.
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Blake Griffin
what yeah total humiliation yeah yeah i i yeah i honestly have never thought about it like that but yeah 100 i think that's 100 right and did it did your parents were always your parents are super regular they're very regular painfully regular i'm just like guys what can i just get can i what are you my parent like my mom drives a nissan
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Blake Griffin
I don't know what kind of car it is, but they're just like, and I love them so much for that. You don't even keep up with the Nissans anymore.
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Blake Griffin
I'm regular. Sometimes I'll be like, shh. Yeah, yeah. You're in like a public, like a crowded place. Yeah. Oh, my God. You're like, shh. Yeah. I got you.
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Blake Griffin
My brother was like the person that always kind of like, you know, if I really like did something where I messed up like in a game or whatever, if I got that call from my brother and he's like, That one hurt the most. That conversation always hurt. Would you argue your case? No. Well, no, no. You just knew. By the way, most of the time, I usually already knew that I was wrong.
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Blake Griffin
Immediately after a game, if I got a crucial tech or I did this or did that, you know right away. I wasn't walking away being like, can you believe that? I told him to F off. I was like, yeah, I probably should have. But again, in the heat of the moment, I was like two very different people on the court and off. Very different people. So intense on the court and so competitive.
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Blake Griffin
That might be true. I don't care about that. That doesn't bother me at all.
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Blake Griffin
I'm not saying now, but – In a way, I never was out to be friendly with guys on the other team. Not really. If there was somebody I knew, great, we're friends. But during the game, fuck you. It doesn't matter. Ex-teammate, person I've known for 10, 12 years, it doesn't matter. You're on the other team, you're on the other team. Clearly, I'm not going out to hurt anybody.
Blocks w/ Neal Brennan
Blake Griffin
But we're not cool during this game. Then after the game, we can be cool. But during this game, we're not cool. How about timeouts? Halftime. I'll meet you in the hallway.
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Blake Griffin
It was more so two other people, one of my teammates and somebody else on the other team. And I guess one of them, I had gotten kicked out of the game. Okay.
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Blake Griffin
like there was an elbow there at the end of that play there from blake so yeah i know i only got kicked out like two or three times yeah this is one of them great uh and then somebody i wasn't on the court it was at the end of the game and somebody said something to somebody else and then that guy tried to come into our locker room which was like it it was the most classic nba like scuffle where it was just like a bunch of guys on this side and a bunch of guys on this side it was like
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Blake Griffin
That's like one thing I was thinking about because I just loved basketball. And the NBA, I was a massive college basketball fan. I grew up in Oklahoma. No NBA teams. There was no league pass back then. There was no social media. I couldn't follow all these things. But I knew Michael Jordan, you know all the biggest ones, you just know the national TV games.
Blocks w/ Neal Brennan
Blake Griffin
Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, no one's doing anything. Yeah. And it was funny because I was just like kind of, we were just kind of like, I was kind of in the back, like just kind of like looking the whole time. And then like, of course, like the media got a hold of it. And then somebody's like, the police were called. Yeah. And the TNT guys were like. Yeah, yeah.
Blocks w/ Neal Brennan
Blake Griffin
And then people thought I actually called the police when it was like nothing. And so that's how those like things get blown so far out of proportion. Okay.
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Blake Griffin
Yeah, I don't think it's my job to, like, go just bash players. Like, if a player has a bad game, like, let's look at it. Like, was he – playing the way he was supposed to play? Was he playing within himself? Was he just missing shots? I think most real fans who really know the game can watch a guy play and have a bad game, and they're like, yeah, he just had a bad game. Missed some shots.
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Blake Griffin
That happens. Now, if you're dogging it, you're not playing hard, you're being detrimental to your team,
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Blake Griffin
like yeah i think that's fair criticism right like so i i think some people and i think a lot of times what guys are a little unhappy with is just like that unfair criticism just to be just to be critical yeah that's just it's just it's lazy from an analytic standpoint and it's incredibly dishonest too because it's just like you know that this is part of a cycle yeah and that they'll score 31 the next game
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Blake Griffin
And yeah, so my goal is that, but also being like giving analysis, like real analysis, like give insight into like- Well, you know what's funny about analysis?
Blocks w/ Neal Brennan
Blake Griffin
yeah i do think that there's a place for some of that sure like i'm not saying like the whole halftime show should be like a breakdown where i'm like the miami heat yeah switching pin downs so when tyler hero comes off if he's not shooting the gap you got to come over and you got to switch from underneath and make sure that low man wrote like i'm not no one's understanding that right like that's a that's a different kind of claim they
Blocks w/ Neal Brennan
Blake Griffin
think they do in the NFL though right don't by the way I have like buddies who like they're like they're really blocking the A gap they're in a nickel dime front 42 but and then you're like dude well you this is so far above our heads like what these guys are talking about and like the the game prep and all that it's so far above most people's heads and I give some people credit they really do know the sport but when it really comes down to professional sports guys are speaking different languages
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Blake Griffin
Another thing he brags about. I got buddies. I've had seven surgeries. Go ahead. Nine surgeries. Nine surgeries. Nine surgeries, seven buddies. Whoa. Played in the NFL for years. And, like, I ask questions because I want to hear them speak that language. No clue what they're talking about. Glaze over. No clue what they're talking about.
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Blake Griffin
So the NBA was never, of course I wanted to play in the NBA, but it was never like this thing where I was like, man, that's gotta be awesome. People know, I just wanted to play basketball. And as time goes on, you sort of adjust to that and you get used to all these things, but that's why when I retired, it was just so like, I'm so happy. So happy. And I played 14 years.
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Blake Griffin
Like all the different things that each position is thinking about and having to do and this and that. You're also trying to think ahead. You're thinking about what they did prior. There's so many different things that go into it. And it's so funny because... You see, especially like fantasy football owners are like, oh, come on. And there's so many more things happening.
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Blake Griffin
And you're just kind of like, you don't think that guy wanted to catch that touchdown pass? I'm not sure. He wanted to so much more than you. Than you could ever do. And it's like there's certain times where, yeah, a guy makes a really dumb play and you can be like, what was that? That was awful.
Blocks w/ Neal Brennan
Blake Griffin
But then there's times where it's like a guy misses a ball that was thrown 75 yards and he tried to get a hand on it and he couldn't. And it's just like, yeah, it's like, I don't know.
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Blake Griffin
I played two years in college. Like after 16 years of high level competitive basketball, like it was time. And I like remember seeing like some of these young kids come in. How old are you? I'm 35. Yeah. And I was sitting on the bench one time and one of our young rookies when I was in Brooklyn I was just talking to him. I was like, when did you really fall in love with the game?
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Blake Griffin
Luke is so good. I don't think he's in like, could he be in better shape? Yes. But there's certain guys who are never going to look like they're in good shape. Right. That's what I mean. Like, he's just not a guy who's just gonna be, like, ripped and, like, it's just not him. It's also not his game either.
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Blake Griffin
He's so big and he uses his body so well that, like, I don't know, I would be, if I was the GM or the coach or whatever of his team, I would be like, you're just keeping him healthy. Just keeping him healthy. And I don't know the inner workings of what was happening in Dallas, but clearly there was some disconnect.
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Blake Griffin
But, yes, like, I wouldn't say – like, when you say medium shape, like, I don't know what, I guess, medium shape means. Well, what would you call – what's Jokic – what kind of shape is Jokic in? For Jokic – like, when Jokic came in to now, or, like, especially, like, championship season, like, he's in good shape.
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Blake Griffin
This guy's running circles around me. Yes, he's in good shape. He just doesn't have that body that's ever going to look like he's in... I think what we're saying is white.
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Blake Griffin
Zach Randolph's a good example. He was so strong, and he was a little bit bigger, but you just have to get guys to what they feel best at, what weight, or you just have to get them to put themselves in the best position to be successful, and that looks different for everybody. It can't be a one size fits all.
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Blake Griffin
So Luka, like, when it comes to – I don't know that it was as much about him being, like, in shape, like, looking like he's in shape. It wasn't really about that, I don't think. I think it was maybe – it had to be something more than that because who cares how a guy looks? The guy's unbelievable. Yeah. He's 25 years old and he's averaging –
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Blake Griffin
27 or whatever it is i don't know exactly what it is but like i don't know i would think it has to be something other than that i would i've made that trade absolutely not well if i was the lakers absolutely but um i don't know i mean yes i i think he's in i think he's in okay shape that's not really i'm not trying to diss him at all no i think i think he's he's in the type of shape that he needs to be to play that way that's that's how i would put and do you care about longevity
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Blake Griffin
Yeah, I mean, of course, if you're a team, you care about longevity. Because if you're going to sign them to a five-year deal, or anybody to a five-year deal, you want them to be able to play.
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Blake Griffin
That's kind of a thing that happens. And he goes, man, honestly, it was when I was like nine or eight. I was watching you with the Clippers. And I was like, oh. He goes, man, I hired your jersey. I changed my number to your number. And I was like, oh. I am old. Oh, I have to retire. I am old. No wonder my knees hurt so badly.
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Blake Griffin
I always just think about like, you know, you get a little sweaty and you got to pull that jacket back down. Yeah.
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Blake Griffin
If I was the GM? If you're the GM. First of all, you have so many different – he does his physical assessment with the training staff. Every team has a sports scientist. They have string the conditioning coaches. You do full assessment. You work on this, this, and this. But also, when you're a guy like Luca, he can just be like, I'm good. I'm not going to talk to your assessment people.
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Blake Griffin
I mean, he would talk to him, but he could just be like, no, I'm okay. From a distance. Yeah, like, I'm okay. I don't want to do, like, I've seen that happen. That happens all the time in the NBA. Where guys just go, ah. I've had teammates who are like, I'm not lifting weights. I'm just, I'm not, I'm not lifting more.
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Blake Griffin
Maybe they'll do, they'll compromise and do like two or three exercises that are pretty easy. And it just works for them. I had a teammate who like never touched weights and he played for a long, long time and he's really, really good. And like some guys, some guys don't, some guys do.
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Blake Griffin
And like the team has to kind of figure out how to like best work with a guy's preferences or routines when they're young, you know, rookies come in You gotta do all this stuff. But as guys get older, if they're still in the NBA, say after seven years, they know what they're doing. They know their bodies. They know how to perform and they know how to be a pro.
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Blake Griffin
Yeah, it can. A lot of it depends on your trainers with the team and it depends on your personal trainer. I had a personal trainer who was super close with all the trainers on each team that I was on. He's just a good dude. He knows his stuff. He doesn't overstep his boundaries. He's respectful and he's not like, hey, it's this way or no. He's collaborative. I had a personal trainer because...
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Blake Griffin
it wasn't because the team wasn't good, I would use those guys, but then I would also want somebody at night when I'm watching games, like the night before a game or any time, he'd come over and he'd work on me, we'd do some exercises, 45 minutes to an hour at night, and that gave me what I felt like was an edge. Like literally stretches and whatever?
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Blake Griffin
Yeah, bodywork stuff, making sure nothing's tight, making sure every joint is moving correctly, or I have the right range of motion, or if I have a little nagging injury to do extra exercises to strengthen that or to help that. That's why I had a personal trainer. Kind of depends on the guy. Some guys have an all-encompassing personal trainer. They don't use the team guys.
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Blake Griffin
it was just like a sobering moment for me it was i was like oh man thank you yeah that means a lot but like in the back of my mind i was like oh my gosh i'm like and you i watch these young kids play and i'm like i i gotta get out of here i overstayed my welcome yeah i can't keep up yeah so you don't it doesn't feel like i think i used to tell you that it's like you're it's like a car when you drive a car off the lot it its value goes down automatically so it's like the minute you take a jersey off
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Blake Griffin
And as long as they're healthy, as long as they're good, and as long as they show up and perform, I don't think teams truly care that much. I think maybe the training staff is kind of a little... What can he do if he's not performing, though? Because that would be the... Then you have a talk. Hey, we think you need to be... We need to have you do this. You need to be in better shape.
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Blake Griffin
You need to get more work in here. Like that. And so that's what I mean when you're a GM. You use kind of all those services that teams provide. And if Luka comes to the Lakers and they're like, all right, we'd like to get him at this body fat percentage or we'd like to get him his cardio a little bit better, they could try.
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Blake Griffin
But guys that are playing that many minutes, you can't work them that much in season. Like, you just can't. So, like, maybe in the offseason they put together a program. Maybe they send a guy out with them when he goes back home, something like that. But, like, in the season, like, guys playing 38 minutes a night. Like, you want them to get extra cardio in on the off days? It's not realistic.
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Blake Griffin
There was only a couple guys. I was like, man, those guys are just freaks, like absolute freaks, like just strong. My issue was never like not lifting enough. I lifted. I did all that stuff. I just think as long as you are doing what you're supposed to be doing, like however you get to it.
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Blake Griffin
Now, a team that that absolutely does have an effect on like if a team's going to give you a five year contract. Right. If you don't if you don't take care of yourself the right way, you don't eat right. You're you're you know, you're just you're kind of a mess. Like a team's not going to like invest five years in you. So that's where it can hurt.
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Blake Griffin
But like if you're just like a guy who's, you know, getting two year deal, three year deal, whatever it is, like I think teams are more willing to just be like, hey, you you you get there however you get there. You we will have certain things that you need to do. But, you know, my my lifts are going to be different than somebody else's lifts.
Blocks w/ Neal Brennan
Blake Griffin
And each one is tailored to like that player and what they what they prefer.
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Blake Griffin
yeah and and part of that is having done these things over and over again but also part of that like one of my pre-game routines was i would sit and i would just like i would go through like what i would call like a highlight reel of what i wanted to to do that game and some of i would start with the jump ball i would literally just close my eyes and i would start with like a jump ball i would see myself were you in the jump ball no uh no because i i but i was always visualizations about other people
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Blake Griffin
Wow, that was really nice. I'm on the bench the whole time. Man, this is cool. But I had my same spot during the jump ball every time. So I would start there, and I'd see myself getting down. I see going down for the first offensive possession. I know what the first play is already because we walked through it and shoot around earlier. I know defensively what my assignments are.
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Blake Griffin
So I'm walking through how I'm going to guard a pick and roll, how I'm going to step out and give a little help on a pin away. I'm pulling over. I'm doing this stuff on the offensive end. I'm catching in post. I'm facing out, pump fake, right.
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Blake Griffin
I just want to see myself do it the way I want to do it. Like I see myself facing up, catching, jab step, pump fake, he goes for it. one dribble, get to the rim, two dribbles, hook shot, one dribble, kick out to the corner, spin back, off the glass. You see all that. You know your game. I see a pick and pop. I see a mid-range jumper. I see a nice path. I try to go through all that stuff.
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Blake Griffin
By the way, it's also, when I would envision it, it's also, like, a little bit blurry. Like, everything out here is blurry. Boca. I believe it's called Boca.
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Blake Griffin
I think I started doing this in the NBA. I didn't do it in college. But you also, like, I have... pretty crazy imagination. So like when you're doing stuff, like when you're working out or you just go in the gym and you're shooting by yourself, I do that at night all the time. You're like, you're envisioning all these things, right?
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Blake Griffin
Like I would just like, I would play through like, and just in your mind, you're not like five, four. But you're just like, you know, like what you're supposed to be doing and you envision like a defense, right? Like you have to get creative a little bit sometimes, like in order to like, keep progressing your game.
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Blake Griffin
Are you still playing? Who do you play for? I'm like, I'm retired. I'm done. But I just don't look at it that way. I don't know. I mean, I also had things to step into to keep me busy. I got two kids. You know what I mean? There was just so much more to life that I was always very excited about.
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Blake Griffin
Time out, he gets up, he goes and high-fives everybody. Standing behind the coach during time out, looking in the crowd.
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Blake Griffin
Like, just any kind of prep is worthwhile. Yeah, I mean, just thinking about it. And, like, the visualization, like, I don't want to, like, make it sound like I'm sitting there for 45. It took two minutes. I'm just seeing, like, high-level, like, 20 things that I want to do. Yeah. And you're done. Easy. Aspirational. Yeah, aspirational. And it's, well, you know what's crazy?
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Blake Griffin
A couple times, like, I would, like, see myself, like, pick and pop, catch a three and shoot it, and it would miss. Yeah. And I think that was just my mind being like, okay. Being funny? I was just like, okay, got to do that again. That's stupid. I'm telling you, it was such a weird thing that I would do sometimes if I kind of lost focus. Oh, that's interesting.
Blocks w/ Neal Brennan
Blake Griffin
I could see myself miss, and I would have to kind of go back and do it again. It was fascinating.
Blocks w/ Neal Brennan
Blake Griffin
I might be thinking to myself like, all right, I just got him – I just caught the ball in the post, faced up and shot and made one. So now I just know, and this is kind of like just like in the back of your mind. Now I just know like I'm going to catch and I'm going to turn same way and I'm going to do it a little bit quicker and I'm going to give a nice pump fake and he's probably going to fly.
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Blake Griffin
Then you also know if he doesn't, now what do you do? And like, so those are all things that you work on like physically, right? Yeah. You know, so like, yeah, there's like a thinking component to it, but you're just playing like little, little, uh, not mind games, but you're just like, you're, you're, you're like gaming shit out.
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Blake Griffin
i'm i'm good like i'm about to score or you're talking to your teammate you're like hey you somebody just threw it to me in the post and i just one two dribble back down and like finished like now i know they're probably gonna send help or maybe i just scored two in a row in the post they're gonna send help and you go to a teammate you're like hey be ready like they're gonna double from you know typically they double from the passer they double from opposite block they whatever they do
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Blake Griffin
And so now you know, you boom, and you sort of bait them. They come, and then you make the play that you want to make. It's not always about scoring, too. You know what I mean? You have to sort of think about all that. But it's mostly about scoring. I mean, come on. I was never known for my passing. No one ever got close to the alpha assist.
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Blake Griffin
Yeah, I'm totally fine with it now. But earlier on when I was younger, I was kind of always like, where do I fit in? Like, I'm not, I'm a little bit too, I'm definitely too white for like, to feel like I was like, or like white looking presenting, to like feel like I was like, you know, a part of.
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Blake Griffin
Yeah, like little white boy like sneakers, like, all right, okay. Yeah. Or I don't know, it's kind of the same things. White people can't really say it. They can't be like, all right, black boy. It's different. But you just feel it from both sides. And not now, and not as I got older. But when I was younger, for sure, high school, it was definitely a thing.
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Blake Griffin
Middle school, I think, was maybe when it became a conscious thing. And then high school, maybe some college a little bit. And then as I got into the NBA and I got older, that stuff never fazed me. But early on, that was a block for me for sure.
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Blake Griffin
So it's not like this thing that I'm just like, Oh, poor me. Yeah. It was a thing. I thought about it. It was definitely a thing, but it wasn't a thing that held me back by any means. And also, sports is kind of the great equalizer. If you can be good enough, people don't care.
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Blake Griffin
Yeah, way less stress. Physically, physically way less stress. Mentally, like, yeah, less stress too. I mean, it is like a – yeah. It is a thing where it's like, dude, you're expected to score 25? Like, for every game you're like – I got to go to work. You have to go produce. There's no way to cheat scoring 25 points. They're not going to give it to you.
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Blake Griffin
And, by the way, it's not hard. You just have to give effort. But, again, there's days where people wake up and they're like, I don't want to do this. And we have those as well. Like I said, those are the most important days.
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Blake Griffin
No, and I have some stuff coming up and I don't know, I feel really good about where I'm at. The fame thing, that didn't faze me in the least bit. The one thing that I do miss is I'll be watching a game and four or two minutes left and it's a close game and it's a great atmosphere, I'm like, oh man, that's fun.
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Blake Griffin
But I also wasn't able to play at the level that I was used to playing at or that I wanted to play at for the last two, three years of my career. So like, how would you- How did you deal with that?
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Blake Griffin
No, I think you just like I mean, I think maybe maybe one of my greatest strengths as a player or maybe a person is self-awareness. Like I knew that I wasn't like I knew that I could be out there, but like especially Boston, my last year is like I sit on the bench at the end of games. It's like I'm looking at like two perennial all stars and like like we had a great team.
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Blake Griffin
I wasn't like, I should be out there. Yeah. Do I think I could help? Yes. But set a pick here or there. I'll hustle.
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Blake Griffin
Like really helpful stuff. Like heady plays. Yes, the intangibles. So like sitting on the bench like that, it wasn't really like a dark or it wasn't like a super sad. At times maybe frustrating. But I just knew that I wasn't at that same level. So my role became different. I became like a locker room guy. I tried to be a mentor to young guys. I tried to have conversations with coaches.
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Blake Griffin
Yeah, and also some days, when you got older, some days I felt great. And I could. But it was like that recovery was so slow, right? Where it was like you felt good one out of every five days. Where when I first started playing, it was every day. Every second, every hour, every minute I felt great. And then you don't feel as good as often.
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Blake Griffin
and I just kind of switched into this mode of like, all right, then I'm just gonna reinvent myself. I sort of did that throughout my career. I started shooting more, I started shooting threes, and then I became a hustle guy. I became a locker room guy, a mentor, and it was all fun, and I enjoyed all of it, all the different facets of it. Of course, do I want to go play 38 minutes?
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Blake Griffin
Yeah, but I knew in my last year, if I played 38 minutes, there's a chance you don't see me for a couple days. I might be stuck in bed.
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Blake Griffin
It's sort of all-encompassing. I wish I knew so much more. It is one of those things where even if you tell guys – Like I had some guys, I had some older guys really pass down some great wisdom. I had some not so wise older guys also pass down some not so.
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Blake Griffin
Just like I had a teammate one time tell me like, hey, you know, you go on the road, you know, you have a girl come over, whatever it is, you know, just make sure you like, you know, you either buy him a handbag or give him some cash. I'm like that. Well, that that doesn't seem doesn't seem a great relationship. Actually seems counterintuitive. Yeah. I don't think that's, I remember that.
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Blake Griffin
Get them hooked on money early. Yeah, that was like early on. I remember somebody told me that, and I was like, well, I'm not doing that. Yeah. The good stuff, though. You were a gift card guy.
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Blake Griffin
That's actually for me. Some of the stuff, I think, though, you kind of have to just experience it. Somebody can tell you over and over, hey, think about this, do this, you got to do this. I would tell guys off the court, I'd be like, start thinking about things you want to do after. It's hard, but just start doing it.
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Blake Griffin
I'm so glad that I did that because like I said, it helped my transition to retirement. We will all retire. It's such a short lifespan as a professional athlete and setting it up beforehand, because like you said, it is so much easier to, if you're interested in photography, It's so easy to send a DM or get your agent to reach out to somebody.
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Blake Griffin
And it's so much easier when it's, hey, so-and-so NBA player wants to do this. I think I told you that. Take advantage of it. Everybody will take a meeting. And when you retire, it's a little different. But like I said, I started these relationships early on. So that's an example of something I tried to pass down to guys. And then other stuff is on the court too.
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Blake Griffin
And sometimes it's just being somebody who – like a guy comes out of the game, he's frustrated. Sit down next to him, let him vent. And then you just give him maybe a different perspective. Or you get to know guys. Like over the course of my career, I think what I really learned about being a leader is like –
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Blake Griffin
You have to first, especially when you first get to a team or you get a new teammate, you have to invest in time to get to know how they operate, what makes them laugh. Maybe one of my strengths was knowing guys' sense of humor. So if a guy's frustrated or something, I'm going to let them vent, and then I'm going to figure out, okay, I can say this, or I can say this, just to break the tension.
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Blake Griffin
Yeah. that's like part of being a leader. It's like investing time in guys, not just being like that guy. When did you start doing it? I started doing, I really started doing it more when I left the Clippers or maybe sort of when our team sort of, with the Clippers sort of broke up and kind of went their separate ways. That's when I sort of took more of a leadership role because
Blocks w/ Neal Brennan
Blake Griffin
there was a period where i felt like i was a leader but like we were it was like it was the same team for the most part it was chris paul jj right deandre jordan matt barnes you know jamal crawford yeah we all just kind of knew each other we knew how to operate we we were we were a good team never won a championship and you and chris always seem you seem younger than them yeah we we me and deandre were yeah like they're all they're all four or five years older than yes uh so it seemed like how who are you gonna tell
Blocks w/ Neal Brennan
Blake Griffin
yeah i mean those and those guys were all like i mean you know look at chris paul jj reddick jamal crawford like those were those were like yeah the guys i played with the most yeah on that team like they were all we all just kind of had they were adults yeah yeah adults families like they were they were already so like locked in that it wasn't really like we'd have rookies and stuff but it wasn't it wasn't quite the same as when i got older
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Ep 216: Blake Griffin
Are you a car guy, Blake? I'm not really. Me neither. I like, I just, I don't know. Yeah. I appreciate people who have like nice cars, but I just like, I don't know. I can just drive an old car. Like, I don't know. It just seems like inconvenient.
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Ep 216: Blake Griffin
They look really cool. Which is really fun to drive, but it's also kind of like every time I hit the gas pedal, I'm like, this is the last drive.
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Ep 216: Blake Griffin
Oh, look, there's a... Wait, how does that work? Oh, that's the... What's going on here? Why is there a picture of me? Oh, was there?
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Ep 216: Blake Griffin
I moved to Brentwood, and I was like, you know what I need? A white Bronco. Yes. I got a white Bronco. Fuck it. How long do you play in L.A.? It was like eight years? Nine years in L.A. Yeah, two and a half in Detroit.
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Ep 216: Blake Griffin
It was me for Avery Bradley, Boban, you know, the 73 guy. I love Boban. Yeah, John Wick. And Tobias Harris and like a pick or two. Damn, though. You're worth more than that, though. Thanks, man. I appreciate that. I actually needed to hear that.
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Ep 216: Blake Griffin
How about the Knicks last night, huh? Don't fuck it. Let's talk about it. You were on a run. You had a good run. Just the most miserable fans in all of sports. Always upset. I'm thrilled.
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Ep 216: Blake Griffin
This is the coolest team since the 90s. No, it'll be one of the best teams to lose in the second round. Do you really think we're going to lose in the second round? I mean, it depends on your matchup, but yeah. Woo! You heard it here first. They're all going to be dead tired. I'm sorry.
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Ep 216: Blake Griffin
Barkley and Shaq are such haters, man. I'm not going to. My plan is to not trash the Knicks. Or any team for that matter. You know what I will do? I will go at GMs, I will go at owners, and I will go at coaches to a certain extent.
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Ep 216: Blake Griffin
Because I'm just tired of like, and this is probably like the former player just being like, I'm just like, I was sick of those guys just shitting on us every opportunity. The Clippers. Well, no, just players in general. I think that's just what the TNT guys do. And that's probably the best sports show ever. Maybe of all time. It might be the best show of all... It's insane.
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Ep 216: Blake Griffin
I'm excited to hear his like... Just like his... We don't hear him like... That's true. That much, right? You don't hear him like... Especially since he's retired, you don't hear his analysis, but his basketball IQ is insanely high. I'm excited to hear him give takes.
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Ep 216: Blake Griffin
I just like, I don't know. So I had this same thing about when LeBron went to Miami. I was just like, you know, and everybody was just shitting on everything he did, right? And it was just kind of like... It kind of sucks because you guys aren't appreciating how good he is. And that was like truly the height of his career, right? Like he was unbelievable in Miami.
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Ep 216: Blake Griffin
And people were just shitting on him. I was one of the people. I hated him. I mean, I guess I get it to a certain extent. But it's also like separate what he did. to who he is as a player. And just appreciate how good he is.
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Ep 216: Blake Griffin
Which is like, I don't know. I feel like people lost three, four years of his career where people were just like, they hated him. That's true. I think that's a good point. And it's like, you kind of got to like, I get that you don't like the guy for what he did, but also appreciate how good he is. Yeah. It's two sides.
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Ep 216: Blake Griffin
He thinks that show is the best show that came out on TV. And he's like, you gotta watch it. You gotta watch it. So we're out at this golf tournament and he's like, hey, just come here. Oh, put it on. Wait, that's supposed to be Doc Rivers, right? And Ed O'Neill. Oh yeah, that's Doc. Yeah. Ed O'Neill is... Donald Sterling.
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Ep 216: Blake Griffin
oh wow this is like a real that was like a real clip like that that that was actually the one thing that i watched that like actually happened that that white party that that donald sterling has right um oh this looks fun i haven't even heard of this yeah but was it bad well so like obviously ed o'neill and um Lawrence Fishburne were great. Yeah.
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Ep 216: Blake Griffin
After that, it takes a sharp... Because you've got to cast basketball guys who can kind of play. DeAndre Jordan's character is 6'1". He's almost a 7-foot guy. Right. You're looking at a dude who's just clearly a very average height guy.
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Ep 216: Blake Griffin
Yeah, I honestly did. I watched 15 minutes of the first episode with Wayne, and I was like, I can't watch this. Wait, Wayne Gretzky made you watch with him? By the way, that was his third time watching the show.
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Ep 216: Blake Griffin
Yeah. And do you see the thing behind the scenes with how they shot the basketball? Yeah, they were on skates or something? Rollerblades. I thought Winning Time.
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Ep 216: Blake Griffin
So I think that like – I don't know. I think to be honest, like I'm a tough critic on sports – Scripted shows yeah, and I thought that it was like it was better than anything. I've seen recently Yeah, basketball.
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Ep 216: Blake Griffin
yeah I mean she's just been on a run killing it I mean she's always been like roast she's always killed it and then like that Tom Brady roast like put her yep and now you know like I assume like she's just on the fast track to whatever she wants now arenas I think she's gonna be doing arenas she's gonna be huge I think Honestly, I don't see much of her stand-up, but I see all of her roasts.
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Ep 216: Blake Griffin
You know you see clips of everybody. I just don't see much of her stand-up, but I see all of her roast stuff.
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Ep 216: Blake Griffin
billion it's insane i heard that um their budget for the tom brady live roast was like 40 million that makes sense and they gotta pay all those players but like those the people in the roast don't get paid that much no that's yeah tom got paid a lot but then they they blew it out for like
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Ep 216: Blake Griffin
marketing for you know I assume that doing live stuff on Netflix is insanely expensive what do you think the budget for the one we just did was 500 that was rough bad was that Jeff Ross's like thing yes end of the year thing yeah he was directed it pretty much he was high the whole time it was it was a mess yeah
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Ep 216: Blake Griffin
Yeah, punch down people who can't say anything back. Diddy and Luigi.
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Ep 216: Blake Griffin
How much did they cut? A good amount. How many minutes did you guys do?
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Ep 216: Blake Griffin
I just love comedy. Love it. I will always... do any i i just i watch and i watch insanely like uh Random comedies. Oh, cool. Give us some. What do you watch? I mean, like, I follow, like, stand-up, like, a lot. And, like, my whole algorithm is probably, like, every fourth video is just, like, a random comedian.
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Ep 216: Blake Griffin
And I'll just go down the rabbit hole and, I don't know, I just, I love it.
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Ep 216: Blake Griffin
Should we just take a gander? Oh, Norm is just all over my For You page. The king.
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Ep 216: Blake Griffin
That was, uh, yeah, I was doing, I was going to Just for Laughs right after that. So I was like trying to work out some stuff for it. And, um,
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Ep 216: Blake Griffin
I think that said, I was really leaning into, I get it. I understand. It's so weird that I'm here right now. Also, the fact that somebody would be like, and now up to the stage, Blake Griffin, and people would clap. I'm like, why are you clapping? Yeah. Like, I could be horrible. That's true. It's like going to an NBA game and they're like, all right, now starting at center, Kevin Hart.
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Ep 216: Blake Griffin
You're like, what? You shouldn't clap for that. You're like, I got screwed.
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Ep 216: Blake Griffin
I mean, Jamal. I was talking about this with my brother. He has to have the... His last game of his career scored 51. I know. Jesus. Kobe did 60. Oh, yeah. Okay, so yes.
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Ep 216: Blake Griffin
I mean, you guys have Walt Frazier and Breen. The best ever. That's like an unreal team-specific broadcast. It's insane. It's unreal.
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Ep 216: Blake Griffin
You talk about... You talk about... Oh, ball. It was just... Wow. A couple of defensive highlights.
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Ep 216: Blake Griffin
That game right there is like the game that I always kind of like to help you. Like my life completely changed after that game. Wow. How did it change? It just went – like, you know, like you play in college. You get drafted. You start playing. You know, you think like, all right, like, you know, like people – The basketball world, like, knows who you are.
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Ep 216: Blake Griffin
And then that game was just, like... It just went, like, through the roof.
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Ep 216: Blake Griffin
Like, you're just, like, walking around. Like, people would just come up to me talking about that dunk or, like, that game. And it was, like... By the way, it kind of goes unnoticed, but I think Amari had like 47 on me that game, and I could do nothing with him. That was when he was just on a tear.
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Ep 216: Blake Griffin
What I just realized is, you know, Denny Advia. Oh, yeah. He's from Israel, not Jewish. What? He's not Jewish? What? Yeah, I just learned. Oh, by the way, I should probably preface this with the person I heard this from is a complete idiot. So I don't know if I can trust him. Okay.
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Ep 216: Blake Griffin
Wait, hold on. Amari Bailey, how is he Jewish? Is he Jewish? We're just adding people at this point.
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Ep 216: Blake Griffin
Who is that? Camila. A lady and a Jew? This could be tough. That's a... Oh, Blake Peters. A fellow Blake. Hey. That's a short list.
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Ep 216: Blake Griffin
we go nope and a little bit of a facade yeah it was exciting for a while sort of a chameleon that way just kind of blend everyone's claiming you yeah that's kind of cool i always i i had a joke in stand-up i was like i'm like uh like undercover boss but only for finding out who's racist like especially on airplanes people are like hey brother how you doing oh yeah it's a
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Ep 216: Blake Griffin
Yeah, I mean, you know, she's fucking, you know, they're taking over. You're like, oh, he doesn't realize that I'm half black yet. Right. Have you had an N-bomb?
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Ep 216: Blake Griffin
You know, when a black dude calls you the N-word for the first time, you're like, oh. Great feeling. Yeah, one of my best moments.
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Ep 216: Blake Griffin
Yeah. What's he say? He's like, so-and-so, why it again? And they go like this. So good.
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Ep 216: Blake Griffin
Yeah. I met Neil, fuck, 2000, I think it was 2011, ESPYs. He was writing for Seth Meyers. Uh-huh. And I met him doing a sketch, and then after that, we just, yeah, he kind of became my mentor. Mentor.
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Ep 216: Blake Griffin
yeah like he just kind of like took me under his wing he was like the one person that was like you you got you got to start like writing stuff like start just write write jokes and so he convinced me to kind of like keep a notes folder of like jokes and i had nothing to do with it forever and then i decided to like do some stand-up which is like an insane idea yeah terrifying
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Ep 216: Blake Griffin
And are you like, are you like, I thought of this on the walkover or the car ride. Sure, yeah. I'll do it.
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Ep 216: Blake Griffin
DeAndre was, like, the guy who, like, is, like, so... He just... It's, like, effortless for him to, like...
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Ep 216: Blake Griffin
walk into a room and like make these people feel like he's like connected with them and make a joke and then walk into like a completely different demographic of a room and like fit in there and he's he was like the guy that kind of kept us all together kept things light he's he's very very funny is this a clip oh this is a great clip yeah oh this went viral oh yeah is this a really good question norm you're already into it from uh from blake's good friend
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Ep 216: Blake Griffin
That's cute. I'll try as hard as I can next year. I don't know. I don't know. Thank you for that question. That's great. He just showed up to, that was my Rookie of the Year, like, press conference, like, when I got the award. He just showed up. No one was like, hey, Norm's coming. He just showed up and just sat in the audience and just raised his hand.
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Ep 216: Blake Griffin
They're like, does anybody have any questions? And he's just like, boom, first one.
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I don't even think I did. Wow, that's crazy. Because I had no... I didn't realize... Maybe I saw him from a distance before everybody sat down, but yeah. Were you a big Norm guy? Huge. I mean, he's one of my all-time favorites. Yeah, same. He is... You know what's crazy? I just heard, you know that moth joke that he told?
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Ep 216: Blake Griffin
He told him the joke, and it's a very short- It's like 30 seconds. Yeah, and he made it into a 10-minute joke. Yeah. It was eight minutes, whatever.
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Ep 216: Blake Griffin
I can't imagine trying to just turn a 30-second joke into eight minutes of- And it was all funny. I know. I mean, I guess some of it you're just like, what the fuck? What's happening? Yeah. He's a kook. Speaking of Neil Brennan, he's the one who, remember when Clayton Bixby takes his hood off? Yeah. Neil's face is the one that blows up. Do you remember that at the end of the sketch? Oh, yeah.
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Ep 216: Blake Griffin
Imagine going out for that casting part as a white dude. Bill Burr is in this. Okay. He's in this sketch. Yeah. You want to see my face?
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Ep 216: Blake Griffin
Dude, so this came out when I was in high school, and it was, like, one of those shows that, like, it came out on Wednesday nights. If you didn't watch that. Yep. Thursday, you were left out of the conversation. Totally. Everybody was just repeating and quoting that show.
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Ep 216: Blake Griffin
Even the ones that they, like, said, like, didn't work out as well. I remember when they had the Player Haters Ball where they time traveled. I remember that. And they ended up turning it into, like, I think they were doing, like, sketches that, like, didn't work out. Even those were just, like, incredible.
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Ep 216: Blake Griffin
Kind of depends. I mean, I love The Office. I love Arrested Development. I could just kind of go down. I've always been a huge SNL fan. I was just powering through the bad years. I'd watch every episode and just hope that there was a good sketch. I think this season is as good as it's been. It's cooking right now.
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Ep 216: Blake Griffin
It's really hard for a basketball player because you basically have to host the first episode of the year, and that's always reserved. LeBron did, I think, the first episode. Oh, yeah. You're made for it, though, man.
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Ep 216: Blake Griffin
That's true. Come on, guys. What the hell? We've got some good ideas. Besides you, who's a really funny NBA player? All right, so there's tiers, right? There's the guys who aren't trying to be funny that are funny. Like Kawhi? Yeah, I mean, like, yeah, yeah, yeah. I would say, like, everybody had that run of, like, man, Kawhi's hilarious. And it's kind of like you're like, is he, though?
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Ep 216: Blake Griffin
I mean, yeah, and I honestly don't know him personally really well. I mean, I freaking love his game. This is great. Have you seen this? Oh, man.
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Ep 216: Blake Griffin
I mean, he's insane. I mean, I've heard from his teammates, he's fun and funny and loose. But it's awkward.
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Ep 216: Blake Griffin
Who else is funny? You know who's really funny? Jamal Crawford is hilarious. He speaks in, like, he always has, like, these sayings where he's like, mm. He goes, mm, fam. Did you talk to him at all when you were playing? Yeah, a little bit. He probably didn't give you the whole, but he's like, mm, fam. You know what? There's lines on the highway for a reason, so everybody doesn't go.
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Ep 216: Blake Griffin
He just says stuff, and you're just like, how did you come up with that?
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Ep 216: Blake Griffin
He just has all these kind of old man sayings, and he always starts like, mm, fam. He's got a catchphrase. Dude, he's hilarious. It's hard to beat Barkley as a funny guy. Dude, Barkley is... So funny. He's just so good. I was at a golf event, and he was there, and we would go sit at the bar at night, and he would like... He just, like, entertains.
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Ep 216: Blake Griffin
And people come up to him, and he's so good with people. Like, he's just like, hey, yeah, bro. And he makes people feel special, and he goes back to his thing. It's like a true talent. Yeah. It's truly incredible how good he is with people. That show is special. Oh, it's insane.
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Ep 216: Blake Griffin
Dude, so at this golf thing, TNT was putting it on, and I got to be on the desk. When Chuck was out playing, I kind of filled in for him.
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Ep 216: Blake Griffin
Nate, yeah. I was playing with Nate. Watching Ernie navigate just like the dull moments and just bring people in and ask a question and throw it to this and read a read a sponsorship like it was insane. Wow. He's so good at it. It's like it's like such a special skill that I don't think people realize how good he is at it.
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Ep 216: Blake Griffin
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I agree. And Shaq is just like just shitting on guys. It's insane. I kind of feel bad for Dwight Howard. Yeah. Really? You're like, leave him alone now.
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Ep 216: Blake Griffin
I think so, yeah. And then Dwight was a great player. Dwight was unbelievable. The first time I really got my bell rung hard, Dwight Howard went up and goaltended one of my shots and came down, and he used to, like, when he would, like, jump and come down, I don't know if he was doing it on purpose, but he would just let his elbows just fly.
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Ep 216: Blake Griffin
And I took a Dwight Howard elbow, like, to the temple, and I remember, like, just kind of, like, going back. It was the first time I saw, like, actual stars. Oh, yeah. And I was kind of like... I was just completely taken aback. He was so strong. It made you feel like a little kid. Where you're just a little bit helpless. He could pick you up and my feet would just be dangling.
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Ep 216: Blake Griffin
He was like, no, put me down. It was nuts playing against him in his prime.
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Ep 216: Blake Griffin
I mean, that was... Oh, man. Wheelchair basketball has more action than this.
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Ep 216: Blake Griffin
Trying to think, okay, what can I say? Come on, PR. Come on.
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Ep 216: Blake Griffin
Britney Spears. God, I'm trying to think. So me, Britney Griner. Crazy night at Moscow. We're on our way to Russia. Things took a turn after that. It was actually my hashish oil. Just tucked it away in her bag. Took the fall.
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Ep 216: Blake Griffin
What a time. I know, that was dark. Then we traded her for an arms dealer. The merchant of death. That's it. Quite possibly one of the coolest nicknames of all time. I know. If it wasn't for him.
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Ep 216: Blake Griffin
She's unbelievable. It's pretty cool. It's also, like, it's just kind of crazy to watch her, like, come in, and it was, like, the thing that the WNBA has been waiting for. Yeah. Like, there's great players in the WNBA, but, like, she's been, like, she is... She's, like, transcended basketball. Yeah. And then everybody was just like, well... We didn't want it like this. You know what?
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Ep 216: Blake Griffin
We wanted to be in the spotlight, but hold on. Right. It was just kind of like, why aren't you guys just lifting her up?
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Ep 216: Blake Griffin
I've always wanted to say this. For shizzle. Yeah, I mean, dude, she is holy shit.
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Ep 216: Blake Griffin
I feel like people, it doesn't really hit the same way when you're retired.
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Ep 216: Blake Griffin
No, I think you're making it, dude. I don't know. We'll see. It's not one of those things. I truly don't think about it very much. And if it happens, that's awesome. But if it doesn't, I'm not, you know. If you need some guys to look at your speech... Throwing a joke? By the way, if I do, that speech will just be, it will just be riddled with just probably the worst jokes you ever heard.
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Ep 216: Blake Griffin
But it's just going to be a set. Yeah. Do a set, man. It's like I'm, you know, what am I going to, basketball gave me everything.
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Ep 216: Blake Griffin
Why are you so angry? Never enough. He's calling out like people, players that people forgot about. He's like, deadlift shrimp. I remember what you said. I mean, that's also like, those guys can't turn it off. That's what made him so good. Have you met MJ? Oh, yeah. And what's that like? He's awesome. He's just the coolest. He's just a guy's guy. I mean, I was a Jordan athlete for years.
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Ep 216: Blake Griffin
And he's probably one of the coolest people. That's what adds to his GOAT thing. He's just awesome. You don't see many clips where you're like, nah, it was corny. You know what I mean? You'll be like, oh, God, he really kind of went at those people. You know, like that. But, like, you're never like, yeah, he's just awesome.
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Ep 216: Blake Griffin
corner like throwing quarters spoken like a true stand-up you gotta go on yeah that's a good point like your set's up in five minutes michael they're calling your name but yeah he was an animal with the uh with the gambling he is awesome for years my uh michael jordan story that i would always tell was uh the Dennis Rodman story that he told in The Last Dance where he went to Vegas.
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Ep 216: Blake Griffin
It was always my go-to, what's a Michael Jordan story? And he told that on Last Dance and now I don't have a good story. It was always my, you wanna hear something cool? I told that story, and then he told it. I was like, fuck. I got nothing now.
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Ep 216: Blake Griffin
Yeah, I mean, you'll never take L.A. away from the Lakers or the Lakers or whatever. You guys get it. But, like, yeah, there was a good stretch of, like – The Lakers kind of being pretty down and, like, him getting hurt and stuff. But, like, dude, Kobe was – in L.A., he is just – he's God. Yeah. He is untouchable. It was, like, truly, like – I don't know how to describe it.
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Ep 216: Blake Griffin
The first time I actually met him, I was doing rehab. My first year I got hurt, I was doing rehab. And the lady who was doing my rehab was his PT. And so I'm sitting there in the PT clinic and And I remember kind of just like sitting there. I had like heat, you know, you do ice and heat to start. And I'm sitting there and I kind of like look up and like the energy in the room shifted.
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Ep 216: Blake Griffin
I'm not like a big like the energy has changed. And I was just like, what's going on? Everybody got a little quiet. And I look over and Kobe's like standing at the door. And I was just like, Oh, this is like, this is, this is different. Yeah. Like he just like everywhere he went, it was just like, uh, it was, it was so, I don't know. It's like, it was like seeing God.
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Ep 216: Blake Griffin
Yeah, I think the term now, what the kids are saying is code switching. Yes, that's it. Yeah, I definitely, yeah. I'm doing Mello's podcast right after this. By the way, if you want to see a stark contrast, it's going to be me with glasses on and I'm going to have a chain on and I'm going to be like, yeah, Kobe was dope as fuck.
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Ep 216: Blake Griffin
Yeah, I don't know. You kind of like, you know, it's natural. Yeah, I don't know. For me, it's like it was kind of kind of natural. Now there's a term for it, code switching.
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Ep 216: Blake Griffin
See, that was kind of, like, the thing that was, like, in the media. Exactly, yeah. Like, we, I was actually, I was talking to JJ Redick about this, like, not that long ago, like, a month ago. And it was, like, we were close. Yeah. Like, we all, we liked each other. We, like, enjoyed spending time together.
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Ep 216: Blake Griffin
It's just like years of losing in the playoffs kind of eats at you and then the spotlight and people just trying to tear you apart, it takes its toll. So you weren't as bad as they made you seem? No, no. People tried to make it seem like we hated each other, we had bad... It was like one of my...
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Ep 216: Blake Griffin
all-time favorite teams like those years yeah we we had it down we just never we never won it was a sick team i mean it was like that's like a looking back that's like a pretty crazy starting line i mean cp jj uh deandre jordan jamal crawford barnes was a great defender you know yeah we had we had unreal i mean and there was a stretch too where we had like
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Ep 216: Blake Griffin
Lamar Odom, Grant Hill, like we had Chauncey Billups. We had like insane names. And it was like, it was a fun run. Yeah.
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Ep 216: Blake Griffin
I mean, honestly, yeah, but it's great because it raises your, you know, you have to be great. Yeah. Because otherwise you feel like you're letting people down. Exactly.
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Ep 216: Blake Griffin
Yeah. It was like an emotional drain. So we were playing Golden State. We lose game one at home, win game two, go to Golden State, win game three. So now, you know, it's 2-1. And Friday night we get a text like, hey, like not emergency meeting, but like it was a random meeting. So we go downstairs and Doc is like – You know, we got word that something's coming out tomorrow about Donald Sterling.
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Ep 216: Blake Griffin
They got something, you know, whatever, you know, business as usual. And we're like, all right, all good. I wake up Saturday morning, and I think it came out, you know, at like 8 o'clock East Coast time. So I wake up 8 o'clock West Coast time. I have like 174 texts. And I'm like, what the fuck is going on? Oh, no. Reverend Jesse Jackson had texted me like, you guys gotta boycott.
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Ep 216: Blake Griffin
And we're just like, all these people were calling for us to boycott and we're like, we just went the whole season to get to this point. Why would we boycott now? Yeah. It's not like we're lining up and being like, all right, Donald Sterling on three. We're playing for ourselves. We're playing for our families, fans.
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Ep 216: Blake Griffin
And we went out and we lost game four, went back home, won game five, went back to Golden State, won game six, and then we won an emotional game seven. And then... Who did we play? Oh, Oklahoma City. That was like KD, right? KD's MVP year. Went to Oklahoma City, won game one. Yeah. Lost game two. And then we were like up seven with like 40-some seconds to play in game five in Oklahoma City.
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Ep 216: Blake Griffin
and just complete meltdown. But we were emotionally drained from that. That Donald Sterling thing was insane. I've never heard Staples Center louder than game five when we came back home. Fans were there 45 minutes before tip-off. We ran out of the tunnel. They had blacked out all the logos. Everybody was wearing black, which is kind of funny now. Sterling was wearing it on his face.
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Ep 216: Blake Griffin
I just have to throw shade at them because I'm a Knicks fan. You guys have a great team, by the way.
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Ep 216: Blake Griffin
Yeah, I mean, you guys have a lot of talent. You know what's gonna happen probably in the playoffs? They're all gonna be dead tired. Because of Tibbs? Yeah, they're just gonna be tired. And he's a great coach. They're just gonna be fucking tired. We just need some depth, and then we're okay if we get some depth this time.
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Ep 216: Blake Griffin
Yeah, my buddy last night was like, we statistically have the best, we have the highest scoring starting five of all time. And my brother Taylor was like, and how's their bench? And he was like, god awful. It's like, yeah, it's like sweet. But if we get a bench, I think if we get a couple guys.
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Ep 216: Blake Griffin
He's incredible. Peyton Pritchard. My first week in Boston after practice, they're like, you want to play ones? Which is one-on-one at the end of practice. And one-on-one in the NBA is like you get two dribbles and it's very controlled. You're from a certain spot. It's like Peyton gets the ball and I'm up on defense. And he's just like, and I was like, you know what? I'm good. I don't need this.
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Ep 216: Blake Griffin
We do it with each other, and it's always awkward. So I have this, like, notes folder that I've had since probably 2008. this is exciting. I mean, it's, it goes, it goes on and on and on. And it's just, some of it's like, I've worked it out. Some of it I've worked out. And some of it's just like, they might just, I, you go back and read it and you're like, what the fuck was I thinking?
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Ep 216: Blake Griffin
Let's see if I have one, too, just to make it feel less weird, because I got the same notes. Okay, here's a good example of things that aren't funny, but it was just like a thing in my head, and I don't know where I'll ever use it. This isn't for stand-up, but what I wrote down was a Jamaican man named Jafriup and last name Steen. It's like, Joffrey Epstein.
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Ep 216: Blake Griffin
No, no, no, from the islands, Joffrey Epstein. That's funny. So, like, I don't know how I'm ever going to use that. I think it's a character in a script. Yes, that's what it is. You've got to make that guy, yeah. That's a good example of, like, just, like, shit where if you read this notes fully, you'd be like, that's the stupidest, like, this is all dumb.
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Ep 216: Blake Griffin
Big ups to Joffrey Epstein. Joffrey Epstein. Yeah, it's like stuff like that. Where it's like, it might not ever, How about this one?
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Ep 216: Blake Griffin
Or I have what I need to work out is substitutions and timeouts at regular jobs, not just sports. So it's like the idea is good, but I don't have any jokes for it. Great premise. That could be a sketch, I think. Where it's just like time... And a lot of my stand-up is like... Early on, I tried to shy away from writing sports stuff because I was like, that's hacky. I want to write real jokes.
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Ep 216: Blake Griffin
And I saw this Seth Rogen interview one time where he was doing stand-up when he was like 13. And he talks about how he came off stage one time. He was like, I went out and I did okay.
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Ep 216: Blake Griffin
And he's like this older comedian an established comedian in Canada was like how old you he's like 13 He's like well write about 13 year old shit, and I I saw that and I was like you know what I should write sports stuff Yeah, you know I like the one thing I know and it's more authentic and it's interest and it sets you apart Yeah, so I always had like it so I I always had this like thought it's honestly probably in my notes folder way back but it was like
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Ep 216: Blake Griffin
I would walk down the street in LA and people would be like, from across the street, they'd be like, go Lakers. And I was just like, how insane is that? I don't see my UPS guy and be like, go FedEx. Why are you yelling that at me? I don't care who you cheer for. It'd be insane to think that everybody has to be a fan of the team that I'm on.
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Ep 216: Blake Griffin
But also like think about calling a timeout in the middle of surgery. Right. It's like, oh. Get the music going to you. You sit on like a bench and you're just like. This guy's like flatlining. You have to get the TNT music.
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Ep 216: Blake Griffin
He had nothing. I'm like, how do you, I want to hear your take on the Luigi stuff. Yeah. Because I'm like. I get it. Insurance companies, they're awful. But it's also like, I can't be the one that decides who lives and dies. Of course.
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Ep 216: Blake Griffin
He's more than hot. I don't know. There's so many layers to it. I don't know how to feel about it, to be honest. It's one of those things I can't decide.
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Ep 216: Blake Griffin
Yeah, I think he ate in at McDonald's. He didn't go just pick it up. He didn't Postmate.
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Ep 216: Blake Griffin
He's just like, yeah, I'll have the number four. Yeah. And I'll be right over here at this booth. Like, we got him.
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Ep 216: Blake Griffin
You know so it's yeah He brought light to a situation that is clearly fucked, but nothing's gonna change Yeah, by the way he that CEO answers to a board and then they're also just gonna appoint a new one.
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Ep 216: Blake Griffin
The CEO? By the way, what a great point. They're like, well, obviously, what was his name?
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Ep 216: Blake Griffin
Obviously, Brian's not going to be here today. But I think he would have wanted us to go on. Keep scamming people. By the way, that's such a great point. That's all you need to know about that situation. I don't know. I kind of struggle with the thought of it. I'm just like... I get it.
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Ep 216: Blake Griffin
Yeah. Which, like, I get it. He brought light to, like, a fucked up situation, but also it's just, like...
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Ep 216: Blake Griffin
Let's talk about what else was going on. A lot of people don't talk about that. Exactly.
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Ep 216: Blake Griffin
Yeah, I guess that's true. Not that mug shot. Yeah, let's pull up Nick Nolte, sexy. I mean, I see. I get it. Really?
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Ep 216: Blake Griffin
I guess. I mean, I feel like now, Sexiest Man of the Year, they're just like, they're trying to make a splash. Yeah. Like, you know what? We're going to pick the guy who no one's expecting.
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Ep 216: Blake Griffin
You never saw this? I mean, I have seen it, but I kind of forgot that he looked like, wow.
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Ep 216: Blake Griffin
I can see it. What is she, 6'3"? I don't know how tall she is, but she is tall. Damn, that's crazy. I saw her one time in person in heels and it was just like 6'8". Wow. Damn.
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Ep 216: Blake Griffin
Well, it kind of blows my mind that we're having these talks. Of course. Because it's just like, I mean, yeah, sure, everybody's like, you know, LeBron, oh, LeBron, he sucks. Dude, like if you, he's, yeah, I mean, it'd be, it's tough to guard.
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Ep 216: Blake Griffin
Could he get there? Yeah. I think like being one and done in college, I mean, it probably would have served him better to like, you know, but like if you can get drafted, go get drafted. There you go. I have zero issues with him getting drafted at the 56 pick. Yeah. I have zero issues with the Lakers being like, all right, we're going to do this.
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Ep 216: Blake Griffin
The thing that I think they probably messed up on is don't give them $8 million guaranteed. Yeah. Like, give him what is normal for that big. He's going to be okay financially. Yeah. Right. He made 10 times that in NIL. Yeah. Really? Maybe not 10 times, but he's made his own money. Sure. Right? And he also doesn't ever have to worry about money.
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Ep 216: Blake Griffin
So it's like, just give him the normal thing, and you'll get everybody off his back. Let him just, like...
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Ep 216: Blake Griffin
have him play the g league and like i don't know was he flying private for the g league games i don't i have no idea if that's true that's crazy i heard i don't know that's confirmed but well by the way he was i mean he only played a certain amount of road games so no i i honestly probably wasn't really like i don't know like wouldn't you want to be with the guys i just think it's yeah i i agree with that but it's like can you imagine being like just like standing there waiting to board and you're like