Billy Eichner
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One thing I will say about the election, and we can also talk about other things, obviously, but this feeling now I'm hearing even among Democrats and liberals that, It's either we care about the working class or we care about civil rights for vulnerable people in our country. We cannot be convinced that it's one or the other. We can and must do both of those things. You can... I agree.
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Clearly, we've lost the thread a little bit in terms of how to communicate our ideas to working class people. That is clearly true. But that doesn't mean we can throw trans people and LGBTQ people and women of color under the bus. Because both of those things can and must coexist. They are not mutually exclusive. Caring about the economic needs of people and protecting trans people. Guess what?
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Trans people want eggs to be cheaper, too. OK, we're all living in this economy. So I've had it with thinking it's one or the other. And it's either has to be one or the other in order to win a national election. That hasn't been true in the past. And, you know, yes, you have to like frame everything correctly and thread that needle correctly and communicate things correctly.
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But from an emotional standpoint, it is our job to protect the most vulnerable people in this country, and that cannot change.
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Yes, absolutely. I was born to middle-class parents. You know, I wasn't born rich. My family wasn't, has nothing to do with entertainment. I mean, I worked my way up and I'm very lucky, but you know, I wasn't always this way. So I remember my father like constantly worried about money and paying the bills and yelling at me that I was spending too much money.
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You know, all of these things are still very present in my head. And you're absolutely right. It's all linked. The thing that we need to do
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is and i thought kamala ran a great campaign under nearly impossible circumstances um and i am happy to see that more or less people are agreed on that um even though she lost but you know we have to find the right communicator that's it so much of this is about being able to sound authentic and really hit people in a visceral place You know, that's what Bill Clinton was able to do in the 90s.
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That's what Obama was able to do in 2008. So much of it is about it's not just about being on the right side of history. Unfortunately, it's not just about being the most intelligent, competent, qualified person. It is about knowing how to viscerally connect with people. Performance is part of the game for better or worse. It just is right. And so whoever that person is going to be next time,
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They need to feel new, they need to feel fresh, and they need to be able to communicate in a way that doesn't feel like the messaging has been crafted in the halls of some lobbyist's office somewhere. It needs to feel raw and real and passionate and authentic. That's what we need. That's why Trump, as demented as he is, connects with his people.
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I'm not saying anything we don't know, but it's worth reiterating having had such a crushing defeat.
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I hear you and I didn't have to grow up around it. I grew up in New York City. I'm a native New Yorker and that gave me a very kind of skewed perception of the world. I had the opposite experience that most people have. A lot of artists grow up in a small town and then run off to the city
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To find their people and experience the world, you know, and be and I had the opposite where I grew up in New York City with very liberal parents, you know, and it was pretty clear from the time. I mean, I didn't come out until I was 20 because this was before the days of Drag Race and Heartstopper. And we still stayed in the closet.
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We weren't coming out at 12 years old, you know, but but it was still pretty evident to my parents that I was a gay kid begging them to take me to see Barbra Streisand concerts when I was literally 13 years old. And, and, and, and bless them. They did, you know, like they were so, so supportive.
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So I just assumed every place was like New York city, you know, and then I got out into the world and realized like, Oh, I wasn't in the real world. You know, I, I was maybe in an ideal world, at least one that I think of as an ideal world, but I wasn't in the world. Most people So it's always a wake-up call to me. I'm like, wow, this is still happening. We're still here?
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It's kind of shocking, and yet we're here. But the one hopeful thing I'll say is the pendulum swings back and forth. You know, no one thought, you know, when George Bush was running, when when George Bush beat John Kerry in 04, no one thought the person to come and save the Democratic Party would be a young black man from Chicago politics. Right. Right. was, you know, and no one.
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And on the flip side, if you had asked Republicans in 2012 when Obama beat Romney, you know, if Donald Trump was the person who was going to come along and save their party, they would have they would have been shocked, too. Full disclosure, I'm quoting Ezra Klein here. I'm not that smart. But it's true.
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And I'm only quoting it because it gives you a little bit of hope in what feels like a hopeless time. I'm not the biggest Joe Rogan fan, but there was a time when Joe Rogan supported Bernie Sanders not too long ago. And that's why. Why did he support Bernie Sanders? Why did we have all those Bernie bros? And you could be annoyed at the Bernie bros, but they were there.
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And I'd rather have Bernie bros than Trump bros any day of the week. And you know why? It's because, say what you will, Bernie speaks in a very unfiltered, raw, authentic way that touches people viscerally. the way that Trump does. And I'm not saying Bernie's the answer to all of our questions. And I don't think it's Bernie himself.
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I think his time is, you know, probably past us in terms of being president, you know, but I think there are lessons to be drawn there, you know, and just in terms of being a communicator, you know, and speaking again, it's about being visceral.
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It is. It's really scary. And again, the women in my life talk about this all the time.
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I have one of my dear friends since college, my friend Diane, who lives in Jersey right outside of New York City, has three daughters under the age of 13, but is close enough to Pennsylvania where she went and canvassed not once, not twice, not three times, but four times between September and October before the election. So we can't blame Diane for losing Pennsylvania.
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And so but she was knocking on doors in like, you know, suburban areas and more rural areas. And she said to me, like back in early October, September, she said, you know, the women are the women seem hopeful about Kamala winning. You know, they're easier to talk to. She said, Billy, the young men are not OK. They are not okay, and it is scary.
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I know a woman I went to high school with back in New York City many, many years ago who now has a teenage son. This woman is like the epitome of like liberal New York Jewish, like Brooklyn, you know, raising a teenage boy who's been raised in New York City. And even she said to a mutual friend of ours recently, she said, I don't understand.
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He's coming home and saying some weird shit, like some weird kind of alt-right stuff. It's not exactly pro-Trump. He's not going that far. But it's strange. And he was like, he didn't grow up hearing this stuff in my liberal Brooklyn apartment or growing up going to high school in New York City. He's getting it from social media. He's getting it from these podcasts.
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Yeah, she the young men are not OK. And I don't I'm I don't know. That's above my pay grade. How to you know, Joe Rogan gets 90 million listeners. I don't know. But and it is strange because he was a Bernie supporter. He was an Obama supporter. Exactly. So. I don't know, that kind of gives me hope. Maybe it's a bit more malleable than we think it is. You know, maybe they're not lost for good.
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And we just kind of need to everyone needs to take a deep breath and kind of like meet everyone where they are and try to be adults and have an adult conversation and hear everyone out about what. what they fear. We have to listen to each other and then decide later how we react. But if we just completely shut each other off, we're not going to get anywhere. It's harder to do.
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It's easier said than done. And I live in a bubble and I love my bubble. Thank God for my bubble. But I don't know. You got to get out of the bubble.
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Because if I were to listen... Oh, I haven't heard a thing you've said this entire time. I haven't listened. No, I'm kidding.
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I know. And I don't want a kumbaya. And that's we're not having a kumbaya anytime soon. I don't.
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I hear you. I'm with you, too. And I'm a New Yorker. I'm gay. My instinct is always to say, fuck you, even to think who agrees with me. I mean, I made a career out of saying, fuck you and storming off when someone didn't agree with me. And so I don't know. I think we need to take a deep breath and take it a day at a time, I guess. I don't know. I sound like some, like, two-bit therapist.
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But, like... Yeah, it's a tricky one. We're in this country together, for better or worse. It's not changing. I don't know. We can either all choose to live in our little bubble. But what starts to panic me a little bit...
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or it's not even panic, it's really sadness, is that when you see Trump's numbers ticking up in New York City, which happened this time, I don't want to see things moving in that direction. That I know. So at the very least, we need to keep our bubbles secure. Because that's all I have. And I know you guys don't live in the bubble, which makes me admire you so much. I could never do it.
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I could never do it. I can barely go to Milwaukee.
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They even have gifts that are far enough in advance to send a card. We're in 2025. The fact that there are still envelopes and stamps is ridiculous. Um, but I do love Christmas. I love the holidays. I was a Jewish kid in New York City. My parents let me and we were not religious at all. They had to beg me to get bar mitzvahed.
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You know, I didn't even I told them I didn't believe in God when I was 11 years old. But like... I only got bar mitzvahed for the party, which had a Madonna slash Broadway theme. I love it. Because I couldn't decide, which I like more. That's a true story. But the one thing they wouldn't let me do because we were technically Jewish is have a Christmas tree and kind of do Christmas.
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And so I completely fetishize it now as an adult. I go to the Radio City Christmas Spectacle. I went by myself a few years ago. I mean, that's scary. I'm a grown man, right? I love Christmas, but I'm not going to do cars just because logistically it's too much work.
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I love a Christmas decoration. Because I'm doing so much press this year for Mufasa, I'm going to be traveling around. I don't think I can have a Christmas tree because I won't be here. And I'm actually legitimately sad about it. I think this year especially, people are so exhausted and stressed and tired. I love looking at a Christmas tree sparkling at night.
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And I don't believe in anything that it represents religiously, but I like a tree with lights on it. And I like ornaments and presents. So if you want to put it up because it makes you feel better, do it. I mean, if people can celebrate Halloween and fucking September now. Yeah, that's the thing. Grown adults worrying about their Halloween costume on August 26th. Grow up.
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Now people say, oh, it's September 1st. It's spooky season. I'm like, not if you have a brain and an education, okay? Spooky season starts in September. So if spooky season can start in September, Christmas can start early November, especially this year.
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Had it. Had it. I fucking hate daylight savings time, okay? To the point where I recently did some research. I tried to Google why we have it, and I'll get into that in a second. But here's the thing. It's beautiful and all, but a little goes a long way with me when it comes to seeing the moon. I get a quick glimpse of it at 9.30 or 10 PM. That's fine. That's lovely.
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I don't need to see your fucking moon ass at 3.30 in the afternoon. it's, it's depressing to me. Okay. I'm, and I'm someone who I'm not a morning person. My brain doesn't start to click on until like 1 PM. And so if the sun goes down at four, like it's, it's so depressing to me. It's like, I don't have a day, you know, it's crazy.
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It makes me a little depressed, you know, and I like the twinkling lights at night, but again, I don't need it in the afternoon. The moon needs to stand down. Yeah.
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stand down okay along with the proud boys and so um i i'm so and by the way now i will cop to something because this is what i mean by listening for listening no i'm kidding to our own biases and by the way i hope the moon is listening right now um the moon probably voted for like jill stein or some crazy shit by the way
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But I will say, I kind of had heard through the grapevine that the reason we had daylight savings time was because farmers wanted it. So from the research that I did, that's not true. That's actually a myth. And it was about kind of making more time in the morning to make things more productive for people. And it was about energy conservation and all different kinds of things.
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And it turns out farmers don't give a shit about daylight savings time. And I think they're just as inconvenienced by it as anyone else. So I do want to apologize to farmers, most of whom probably have always voted against my civil rights, for the assumptions I made about daylight savings time.
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We're different. I love when the sun's out at like 8 p.m. I'm like, do we live in the Netherlands? Like, where are we right now?
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Wow. This is the thing what I mean, like, growing up in New York gave me a strange perspective, because I'm such a night owl. You know, in New York on a Tuesday, you have dinner at 10pm, you know, like, it's just its own world. And so and I, I love I mean, I'm a night owl. I love nightlife. So it's not like I want more daylight for that reason. But I just...
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not have, I know the sun going down is so depressing to me. Like, I just don't want it to be pitch black at four in the afternoon. But if it works for you guys, great. You know, everything I have to do is based around what people in Oklahoma want now. So the sun should be too.
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Had it. I don't like eating on a first date. I'm single. I go on dates. I just think people I know this is like a very traditional thing. So the first thing is, oh, what do you want? What are you going to do on a first date? Let's go to eat. I don't want to watch someone eating like shoveling food in their mouth on a first date and having them watch me shoveling.
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shovel food in my mouth and like I'm spitting and talking it's so not sexy to me like and I know that maybe people disagree with me but I just don't I don't want to see it like people like shoveling food in their mouth what's supposed to be like a sexy kind of like getting to know you vibe I don't know maybe it's just me I like just going for a drink you know I don't want to be like cutting lettuce like cutting like a
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slab of meat and like eating a salad and like, but there's like cheese and I don't know, like Italian dressing. I just don't want to keep it like simple and chic and sexy on a first date. And if we like each other and we, we want to go out more than we can watch each other be disgusting while eating, you know, that's how I feel about it.
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I was just going to say, I will blow a stranger with a knife. but I don't want to see you eating a Caesar salad with anchovies in front of me, like shoveling that with that smell. Okay. I will literally rim someone that I just met. Okay. But I don't want to see them pouring Parmesan cheese, extra Parmesan cheese on a salad on the first date. I think that's disgusting, but I will lick your asshole.
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I will. Almost immediately upon entrance. But I don't want to see you eating. Sex on a first date, and I will say this because we're gay, and I know I've listened to you guys. You talked to a lot of gay guys about Grindr, so I know you're all about it. But there is something about Grindr, about hooking up first. And it's I don't know if it's in a way it's not ideal.
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And I get that you want to get to know the person. But it's nice to know that you have or don't have sexual compatibility and chemistry before you start to like each other as people, because.
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If you're on the, you know, if you get to really like someone and you like their personality and then you finally jump into bed and it's not quite there, that's such a disappointment, but it's just not going to work. And now you've wasted everyone's time and your own time. So I rather go straight to a rim job and save the video for later.
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I totally get liberal with a crooked dick. He should have a show on Crooked Media. Yeah. called Crooked Dicks. That would be good. Like a liberal white guy in Oklahoma on Crooked Media.
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By the way, I'll take what we can get. If it's a crooked dick is going to win the next election, I'll take it.
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Hit it. Hit it, I think. I love a podcast. They say we have no more movie stars left, but we have podcast stars. That's what we have.
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I sure as fuck am. And so, you know, I think that, you know, I'm more I love a podcast. I listen to podcasts. I find it comforting and educational. And I think that's great. You know, I don't there really isn't a movie star and as very few movie stars left who can draw someone to the box office immediately, no matter what they're in.
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But I will listen to fucking anything that you guys do or as reclined us. Literally. I mean, I am out there Googling like other people are like, oh, Jonathan Bailey, so hot. Paul Mescal, so hot. I am literally Googling shirtless photos of Ezra Klein.
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That's my dream, man. I was devastated to find out that he was straight. I assumed he was gay. He's straight and married and living with a wonderful woman and children in Brooklyn because of course he is. But like, these are the new stars. These are our friends. You know, we don't have late night.
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We have late night talk shows and I love those guys and I know all those guys and they're great, but they don't. They don't take up the same relevance. Sorry. You know, within the cultural conversation that they did when I was growing up, when you had Johnny Carson and Letterman, you know, they just don't. They're still there and they're great. But everything is so much more niche now.
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And I think podcast hosts have come and sort of taken up that space in a way in terms of having control over the cultural conversation. And so I love a podcast.
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Oh, hit it. Hit it every time. I mean, not literally. They don't want that and I don't want that. But I love lesbians. We did a famous Billy on the Street segment called Let's Go Lesbians, Let's Go, where I'm running around with lesbians. And I absolutely love lesbians. And I think, you know, lesbians don't get the attention they deserve. You know why?
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You know, or like even like straight guys like showing off their like ripped bodies and all these like wellness folks like lesbians just keep to themselves. They put their heads down. They do the fucking work. OK, and that's and they and, you know, not to make this as depressing as humanly possible, but like when when when gay men could.
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not fend for themselves as much because we were literally dying during the AIDS crisis. It was lesbians who, who, if you don't know the history, you know, gay men and lesbians were only kind of sort of united before the AIDS crisis. I mean, they were in theory, but they were very separate in terms of how they lived their lives.
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It wasn't quite a united front and the AIDS crisis turned it into a much more united front. And that's because lesbians helped us survive. They took care of us. They fought our political battles. They helped fight our health battles. And so now there's a long history of of lesbians and gay men being united politically and socially. And I absolutely love a lesbian.
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Give me a lesbian to get the job done any day of the week.
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I can't think of a better segue from the AIDS crisis. Hey, you know what?
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No, Tom Snyder is rolling over in his grave right now. But yes, I do the voice of Timon in the new Disney holiday spectacular called Mufasa the Lion King. I did the voice of Timon with Seth Rogen as Pumbaa in the 2019. Lion King that Jon Favreau directed. And now this is really exciting because this is not a remake. It's an entirely new story and it tells the origin story of Mufasa.
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And I'm thrilled to be a part of it. I just saw the movie for the first time. I honestly had no idea what to expect. Now it is directed by Barry Jenkins, who won the Oscar for Moonlight and is obviously a brilliant filmmaker, but this is a very different type of movie. The scale of this movie is very different than what he's done before. I didn't know what to expect.
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And with these movies, you record them so far in advance that I literally forget what the movie is by the time I see it because these animated films take such a long time to make. And I sat down in a screening room. They had me watch it with a security guard alone on the Disney lot, right? Because they don't want me to film any of it or whatever. And it... Is so good for real.
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And I was blown away. I had forgotten all my own lines and Seth Rogen and I, we improvise a lot. And so who even remembers what we did in the studio or, and we certainly don't know what's going to make it into the movie. And I was just talking with Seth a couple of days ago doing press for the movie. And he was saying the same thing. Like, yeah, he had no idea what to expect.
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And we were both blown away. It is truly a great adventure. flip over it. There are so many amazing action adventure sequences that honestly, I was on the edge of my seat. They're in waterfalls and they're in the snow and they're underwater. It's amazing, truly.
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Yeah, I would absolutely love that. I would love that. You know, you guys can strap it on, do what you need to do. We'll figure it out. I love that. And again, I love you guys. You guys are fucking ballsy. And I mean that in the gender neutral way. And I so appreciate you. You know, it was I'll be honest. It was only like a few months ago when someone said, do you listen to these ladies on?
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I've had it. And, you know, there's so much out there.
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And I hadn't, right? And they said, oh, you would love them. And I said, oh, the last thing I need is another fucking podcast, right? And so I started listening and I could not believe it. And I was literally like the stepmaster at the gym listening to you guys. Like instead of the usual like dance mute, like Mariah Carey remixes, I usually listen to to like pump me up.
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And you guys were pumping me up. You were like, fuck all these Republican bitches in our comments who think we're gonna be their friends. I was snapping my fingers on the step master, like like the biggest cliche of like the wacky gay neighbor on a sitcom. You don't want to watch it. It was. I love it. Thank you so much for doing what you do.
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What's your fault, Billy? I'm not taking the blame, okay? Will Ferrell and I went out, we brought back Billy on the Street, which I haven't done a new one in a few years. And we had a great time. You know, the reason we did that is because I mean, I'm a gay man, obviously, but Will is very much not.
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And we just wanted to show people that there were still decent men out there and decent white men out there who were very loudly and proudly supporting the more intelligent, competent, decent, empathetic, compassionate, qualified candidate who was, of course, Kamala Harris. And we were just, you know, I was doing my best, you know, trying to galvanize people.
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And it kind of gave me a false sense of hope because people got really excited about that video. I mean, it got like... I don't know, it's like 20 million views or something. And Billy on the Street's always been very popular, I'm happy to say. But I don't know, people really reacted in a very positive way when that came out.
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And people were actually sending me messages, even friends of mine who, you know, they're very much over me and Billy on the Street after all these years. But, you know, the last thing they want to hear about is my success and popularity. But...
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all of my jealous friends but i'm just kidding but but they were texting me especially the women in my life and i'm a gay man i have a lot of girlfriends i'm very close to they were they were saying oh my god like this gave me hope this gave me allowed me to feel a little bit of joy and excitement and not just the panic that they were feeling and rightfully so to feel that panic and
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So in a weird way, it gave me a false sense of hope right before the election. But I'm proud of it.
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Yes, that's the reality. And I remember going out in 2016, the summer before the election, when it was Hillary versus Trump, and shooting a similar type of video or trying to shoot a similar type of video. And this is 2016. So at this point, it's completely unfathomable to any rational person that Donald Trump could actually win the election. And we're still in that headspace, which
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If you were in that headspace in 2024, then you're kind of delusional, right? You had to know. The polls, it was always very close. He was up in the polls even towards the end, depending on which poll you're looking at. So I don't know. People who say they were as shocked this time, that to me is a little confusing.
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But when we went out to the streets of New York City, by the way, and we shoot in Chelsea downtown, which is a very diverse area, Even in 2016, a few months before the election, there were I mean, most people were pro Hillary, but there were a surprising amount of people saying they were going to vote for Trump or that they simply couldn't vote for Hillary.
I've Had It
If That's Wrong, I Don't Want to Be Right
And, you know, there is just an enormous amount of misogyny in this country. Yeah. Sadly, even among women. And we're seeing that play out again and again. And I'm not saying that's the full explanation for Trump winning, because it's not. It's complicated. 70 million plus people aren't all voting for the same reason. But we have to acknowledge it. It's not just a Hillary Clinton issue.
I've Had It
If That's Wrong, I Don't Want to Be Right
And that's something that's just becoming more and more evident. But yeah, even in 2016 on the streets of New York, there were a couple more Trump supporters than I thought there would be, to be honest.