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The Megyn Kelly Show

Megyn Kelly Details the Curious Case of Carlos Watson, and Shocking Downfall of the Disgraced Media Mogul | Ep. 969

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it would not be true that i had offered him money and it's not you know he hasn't denied any of the things we reported and i think that's it's not really it's not really all that relevant to the story i wasn't okay i was not privy to a deal that he was talking about with buzzfeed around the time i was leaving you weren't involved in that at all i i sent a two-sentence email introducing him to my boss on my boss's request that was that was my involvement

The Megyn Kelly Show

Clooney Lectures About Journalism, and Dems Lean on Bernie and AOC, with Ben Shapiro and Stephen A. Smith | Ep. 1033

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Megan, this isn't my point where I'm gonna lecture you about where you're sending your kids to school, but we're friends and you totally should not be sending your kids to this school. Like this is bad.

The Megyn Kelly Show

Clooney Lectures About Journalism, and Dems Lean on Bernie and AOC, with Ben Shapiro and Stephen A. Smith | Ep. 1033

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OK, that's fine. But but you need to be on the school board and then you need to be on the list of journalists, obviously. And if they're talking about female journalists, I don't need to be on it.

The Megyn Kelly Show

Clooney Lectures About Journalism, and Dems Lean on Bernie and AOC, with Ben Shapiro and Stephen A. Smith | Ep. 1033

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I got to tell you, but Katie Couric is not Florida. Connecticut is not Florida down here. Our list is like only right wingers. So, yes, great. It's great.

The Megyn Kelly Show

Clooney Lectures About Journalism, and Dems Lean on Bernie and AOC, with Ben Shapiro and Stephen A. Smith | Ep. 1033

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A hundred percent. And this is why I actually think that the Bernie Sanders movement, which is predominant among that group of people. And also he's broadening out. I think that, yeah, I did my show on this today. I really think that the AOC presidential candidacy that we're all laughing at and scoffing at, I think that we're laughing and scoffing at that a little early.

The Megyn Kelly Show

Clooney Lectures About Journalism, and Dems Lean on Bernie and AOC, with Ben Shapiro and Stephen A. Smith | Ep. 1033

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I'm old enough to remember 2007 when people were laughing and scoffing at Barack Obama and suggesting Hillary was definitely going to be the nominee. And when Republicans were actually crossing party lines to vote in primaries in favor of Obama because they wanted to throw a scare into Hillary Clinton. I remember saying that Obama was the actual scary one.

The Megyn Kelly Show

Clooney Lectures About Journalism, and Dems Lean on Bernie and AOC, with Ben Shapiro and Stephen A. Smith | Ep. 1033

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I think that actually the Bernie AOC movement is something that really needs to be watched here.

The Megyn Kelly Show

Clooney Lectures About Journalism, and Dems Lean on Bernie and AOC, with Ben Shapiro and Stephen A. Smith | Ep. 1033

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not because the Democrats are in any position of strength, but my greatest fear for the Trump administration is that if there's an economic downturn, what you're gonna get is a turn to wild left-wing populism, and Bernie is consolidating that crowd really quickly, and bringing AOC on stage to tap her on the shoulder is obviously a tactic.

The Megyn Kelly Show

Clooney Lectures About Journalism, and Dems Lean on Bernie and AOC, with Ben Shapiro and Stephen A. Smith | Ep. 1033

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So, you know, I think that that that is a that is a very real thing. And she she is trying to knit together whatever is left of the Democratic coalition. Right. The white college educated women. She's trying to knit together minorities. She's trying to knit together what she thinks are going to be blue collar, blue collar workers with her sort of anti rich, you know, eat the rich appeal.

The Megyn Kelly Show

Clooney Lectures About Journalism, and Dems Lean on Bernie and AOC, with Ben Shapiro and Stephen A. Smith | Ep. 1033

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That I think is the next move for the Democratic Party, actually, if you're gaming out where they go after this.

The Megyn Kelly Show

Clooney Lectures About Journalism, and Dems Lean on Bernie and AOC, with Ben Shapiro and Stephen A. Smith | Ep. 1033

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I think that she's playing for an economic downturn. And if there's an economic downturn, I think anybody has a shot. I mean, if you look at that primary poll among Democrats, yeah, Kamala's at 36% because she just ran, but the next closest person is Buttigieg at 10, right? So now you're talking about a scrum, right? It's like Buttigieg at 10, Walls at five, AOC at five,

The Megyn Kelly Show

Clooney Lectures About Journalism, and Dems Lean on Bernie and AOC, with Ben Shapiro and Stephen A. Smith | Ep. 1033

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And so anybody there really sort of has a shot. And we're talking about a built in audience. Remember, Bernie almost won the nomination in 2020 over Joe Biden. So if he takes her on the road and he gives her his donor list and he sort of taps her on the shoulder, she's going to start with a lot of systemic advantage. She has high name recognition. She's very good on television.

The Megyn Kelly Show

Clooney Lectures About Journalism, and Dems Lean on Bernie and AOC, with Ben Shapiro and Stephen A. Smith | Ep. 1033

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I don't think she's particularly intelligent or has anything interesting to say, but that doesn't seem to be a prerequisite for running for president these days at all. So yeah, I think she's more formidable than currently advertised. And she may be too far left for the American people. I certainly think that she is. I think the entire Democratic Party is.

The Megyn Kelly Show

Clooney Lectures About Journalism, and Dems Lean on Bernie and AOC, with Ben Shapiro and Stephen A. Smith | Ep. 1033

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But economic downturns have peculiar effects, which is why I'm very much focused on, like the Trump administration needs to focus first, more than anything else, right? They did a great job on the border. They've already turned the border from the number one issue into like the number five issue because they shut down all illegal immigration at the border already.

The Megyn Kelly Show

Clooney Lectures About Journalism, and Dems Lean on Bernie and AOC, with Ben Shapiro and Stephen A. Smith | Ep. 1033

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They need to be spending their time ensuring that we do not suffer an economic downturn. Because if there's an economic downturn, As high as I think people are on the right side of the aisle about our political prospects, things turn very quickly in the United States.

The Megyn Kelly Show

Clooney Lectures About Journalism, and Dems Lean on Bernie and AOC, with Ben Shapiro and Stephen A. Smith | Ep. 1033

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Well, again, what they're doing is shockingly smart. So Bernie, I mean, I say that because I think that they have a combined IQ of a kumquat. But Bernie Sanders, who is a lifelong leech on the ass of American society and has switched his tune with regards to illegal immigration many times, he used to actually be very closed border because he used to acknowledge a reality, which is that.

The Megyn Kelly Show

Clooney Lectures About Journalism, and Dems Lean on Bernie and AOC, with Ben Shapiro and Stephen A. Smith | Ep. 1033

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If you have socialist redistribution in a country, you can't have an open border. That's just a giant magnet for everybody to come in and take government benefits. So he actually used to be in favor of a much more closed border. And now he's reverting back to that stance, which, of course, is a much more popular stance.

The Megyn Kelly Show

Clooney Lectures About Journalism, and Dems Lean on Bernie and AOC, with Ben Shapiro and Stephen A. Smith | Ep. 1033

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You see her doing what Democrats are now attempting to do, which is they don't want to reverse themselves completely the way that Gavin Newsom tried to in order to in order to get back. away from the transition. Instead, they're saying, why are we even talking about this? Who even brought this up? The answer is you brought this up. You made this a center point of your actual worldview.

The Megyn Kelly Show

Clooney Lectures About Journalism, and Dems Lean on Bernie and AOC, with Ben Shapiro and Stephen A. Smith | Ep. 1033

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But you can see her trying to put that off to the side and go back to the economic populist message. And this is why I say I think that the Democrats are gambling on one thing and one thing only, and that's an economic downturn. They They're figuring that if there's an economic downturn, that their message of oligarchy is going to be effective.

The Megyn Kelly Show

Clooney Lectures About Journalism, and Dems Lean on Bernie and AOC, with Ben Shapiro and Stephen A. Smith | Ep. 1033

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This is why they're also training their guns at Elon as opposed to Trump. If they train their guns at Trump, Trump is Teflon. As I've said since 2016, Donald Trump is a mud monster. And if you throw more mud at him, he just becomes more of a mud monster. But if they train their guns on Elon, they understand Elon is not vulnerable in the same way. He's not on the public dime.

The Megyn Kelly Show

Clooney Lectures About Journalism, and Dems Lean on Bernie and AOC, with Ben Shapiro and Stephen A. Smith | Ep. 1033

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He obviously is the richest person in the world. He doesn't really seem to care what people think. But if they can tie together the idea that Elon and Trump are part of a corrupt oligarchy together who are manipulating American economics and impoverishing the poor, and then if the economy goes south,

The Megyn Kelly Show

Clooney Lectures About Journalism, and Dems Lean on Bernie and AOC, with Ben Shapiro and Stephen A. Smith | Ep. 1033

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Then they can have a sort of horseshoe theory thing happen with sort of the populist right, and they can hope for enough crossover to actually be competitive in a national election. I think they're pretty openly playing for a recession right now. Again, I don't think it's stupid. I think the tactic itself is smart, even if the messengers are not particularly bright.

The Megyn Kelly Show

Clooney Lectures About Journalism, and Dems Lean on Bernie and AOC, with Ben Shapiro and Stephen A. Smith | Ep. 1033

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I mean, I think that thwarting judicially isn't going to matter until we get to the Supreme Court level. So you're seeing all the Democrats complain. It's a constitutional crisis. No, it's not a constitutional crisis until you get to the point where the Supreme Court issues an order and then the executive branch just ignores the Supreme Court order.

The Megyn Kelly Show

Clooney Lectures About Journalism, and Dems Lean on Bernie and AOC, with Ben Shapiro and Stephen A. Smith | Ep. 1033

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Like maybe if they said that you're not allowed to unilaterally relieve student loan debt and then the administration just went ahead and tried to do it anyway, which happened like two years ago. But I think that the real question here for the Supreme Court is, was, and will be,

The Megyn Kelly Show

Clooney Lectures About Journalism, and Dems Lean on Bernie and AOC, with Ben Shapiro and Stephen A. Smith | Ep. 1033

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What restrictions are they going to put on district court judges and the district court judge's ability to issue these nationwide temporary restraining orders on the basis of I'm a judge in Texas. And now the entire country is now going to be governed by the thing that I say about a nationwide order from the White House.

The Megyn Kelly Show

Clooney Lectures About Journalism, and Dems Lean on Bernie and AOC, with Ben Shapiro and Stephen A. Smith | Ep. 1033

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The fact that the Supreme Court turned that down a few weeks ago was a huge mistake, in my opinion. And Justice Roberts kind of signing into chat to rip on President Trump for ripping on district court judges. Justice Roberts, I'm one of the few people on the right who objected to Justice Roberts back in 2005 when he was nominated by George W. Bush. I didn't think he was going to be a good pick.

The Megyn Kelly Show

Clooney Lectures About Journalism, and Dems Lean on Bernie and AOC, with Ben Shapiro and Stephen A. Smith | Ep. 1033

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And that was one of my predictions. I've made many predictions in my career that have been bad. That one was actually quite good. I think Justice Roberts has been a bit of a disaster as chief justice of the Supreme Court. And I think that his kind of notion that he restores the legitimacy of the court by yelling at President Trump is really stupid.

The Megyn Kelly Show

Clooney Lectures About Journalism, and Dems Lean on Bernie and AOC, with Ben Shapiro and Stephen A. Smith | Ep. 1033

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If he wants to restore the legitimacy of the court, then the court needs to draw very clear lines as to what district court judges can and cannot do. And that is a thing that they absolutely have not done.

The Megyn Kelly Show

Clooney Lectures About Journalism, and Dems Lean on Bernie and AOC, with Ben Shapiro and Stephen A. Smith | Ep. 1033

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I mean, they're leaving it up to these district court judges to do everything from mandate that the military allowed trans members in to turning flights around in the middle of the air over international waters. And can they do that? Can they not? We don't know the answer. And so this idea that Trump is sort of redefining what the judiciary can and cannot do. That's not true.

The Megyn Kelly Show

Clooney Lectures About Journalism, and Dems Lean on Bernie and AOC, with Ben Shapiro and Stephen A. Smith | Ep. 1033

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The low-level judges are redefining their own jurisdiction, and then the Supreme Court hasn't weighed in yet. So I think that that is a narrative battle that Trump is not losing. And I think certainly forcing Democrats to defend Trenadero Agua members being in the United States, these Venezuelan gang members, that's a narrative win.

The Megyn Kelly Show

Clooney Lectures About Journalism, and Dems Lean on Bernie and AOC, with Ben Shapiro and Stephen A. Smith | Ep. 1033

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If you're the person on the side of the gang members, that's a pretty obvious fail. And Democrats keep being forced into the 20% position in every 80-20 fight. So for sure there. When it comes to the private sector and pressure that he's putting on particular places. So Columbia University is in violation of the Civil Rights Act.

The Megyn Kelly Show

Clooney Lectures About Journalism, and Dems Lean on Bernie and AOC, with Ben Shapiro and Stephen A. Smith | Ep. 1033

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I mean, the thing that the Trump administration is saying to Columbia is you have a set of standards that apply to black students, gay students. every other minority student, and it applies to Jews too under the Civil Rights Act. You may not like the Civil Rights Act. You may think that it's an overreach. I've actually made that case myself in the past.

The Megyn Kelly Show

Clooney Lectures About Journalism, and Dems Lean on Bernie and AOC, with Ben Shapiro and Stephen A. Smith | Ep. 1033

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But if those laws apply, if these anti-discrimination laws apply, they apply across the board. And that means... Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

The Megyn Kelly Show

Clooney Lectures About Journalism, and Dems Lean on Bernie and AOC, with Ben Shapiro and Stephen A. Smith | Ep. 1033

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I mean, the truth is that Jeremy stepped down to pursue things like Pendragon, which is the single biggest... I think entertainment offering ever put forward on the right side of the aisle, like ever by a long stretch. People are going to be blown away.

The Megyn Kelly Show

Clooney Lectures About Journalism, and Dems Lean on Bernie and AOC, with Ben Shapiro and Stephen A. Smith | Ep. 1033

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It's unbelievable. Yeah, I mean, it's like high fantasy, Arthurian legend, seven episodes at very high cost. I mean, it is a major, massive project. And he has to go and he has to edit that. We have to figure out exactly how we're going to market that. We have other creative projects that Jeremy is going to work on, that Jeremy wants to work on, and that Jeremy is involved with.

The Megyn Kelly Show

Clooney Lectures About Journalism, and Dems Lean on Bernie and AOC, with Ben Shapiro and Stephen A. Smith | Ep. 1033

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And frankly, the day-to-day management of a very large and growing company was not, I think, in his view, consilient with that mission, which is for him to do more creative projects, to do more on the entertainment side. Frankly, I think for Jeremy, that's where a lot of his heart is as well. And so he wanted to put more focus in that as we mature as a company.

The Megyn Kelly Show

Clooney Lectures About Journalism, and Dems Lean on Bernie and AOC, with Ben Shapiro and Stephen A. Smith | Ep. 1033

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As far as all of these sort of bizarre rumors that we're in, oh, we're in serious trouble. Oh, no, everything is... I mean, as somebody who looks at the balance sheet, I can tell you that is certainly not the case. And we are healthy. We are growing. We are thriving. And we have extremely big moves that we are looking forward to making this year.

The Megyn Kelly Show

Clooney Lectures About Journalism, and Dems Lean on Bernie and AOC, with Ben Shapiro and Stephen A. Smith | Ep. 1033

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Well, I mean, I guess that's the way I'm going to get elected governor of Pennsylvania right there. And that's my spokesperson. I didn't see that one coming. I will tell you that. That is weird.

The Megyn Kelly Show

Clooney Lectures About Journalism, and Dems Lean on Bernie and AOC, with Ben Shapiro and Stephen A. Smith | Ep. 1033

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Yeah, he is so tiresome. Just as a human being, he's unbelievably tiresome. And I will acknowledge here that his wife, Amal Clooney, literally was complicit in some of the worst propaganda of the last several years. She was involved in the International Court of Justice's attempts to actually prosecute the prime minister of Israel, Benjamin Netanyahu, for war crimes. She was a deep part of that.

The Megyn Kelly Show

Clooney Lectures About Journalism, and Dems Lean on Bernie and AOC, with Ben Shapiro and Stephen A. Smith | Ep. 1033

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So she obviously wasn't speaking truth to power. She was she was part of the power. George Clooney has always been part of the power. This idea that he's ever speaking truth to power is nonsensical. That dude has more. He may have single handedly been responsible for Joe Biden stepping out of the race. You recall that he wrote an op ed in which he basically called for.

The Megyn Kelly Show

Clooney Lectures About Journalism, and Dems Lean on Bernie and AOC, with Ben Shapiro and Stephen A. Smith | Ep. 1033

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Joe Biden to step out of the race. And then the Democratic Party suddenly magically listened. So when he talks about this, he's speaking truth. What is the power inside, for example, his own party that he has ever spoken true, like real truth to and not been listened? And he wields outsized powers.

The Megyn Kelly Show

Clooney Lectures About Journalism, and Dems Lean on Bernie and AOC, with Ben Shapiro and Stephen A. Smith | Ep. 1033

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Again, this idea that he's like a powerless person who's fighting for the rights of the journalistic establishment. The journalistic establishment is what brought us here. This sort of worship that Clooney and others have for the journalismers is truly amazing, given how poor they have been at actually exposing truth to the light of day.

The Megyn Kelly Show

Clooney Lectures About Journalism, and Dems Lean on Bernie and AOC, with Ben Shapiro and Stephen A. Smith | Ep. 1033

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He's speaking beyond a point where people have any respect for journalistic establishment at all. I don't know who he's talking about. The American approval of the journalistic establishment is in the 20% range.

The Megyn Kelly Show

Clooney Lectures About Journalism, and Dems Lean on Bernie and AOC, with Ben Shapiro and Stephen A. Smith | Ep. 1033

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So who is he even talking to right now, dreaming of a time when journalists were these speak-truth-to-power, fedora-wearing, hard-boiled, walking-around-the-streets-of-Chicago-reporting people? Working class. Yeah, exactly. It's all nonsense.

The Megyn Kelly Show

Clooney Lectures About Journalism, and Dems Lean on Bernie and AOC, with Ben Shapiro and Stephen A. Smith | Ep. 1033

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I mean, I'm just wondering, who are these journalists who aren't covering the Trump administration? They're like, who are they? It'd be great for him to call them out. Who are these journalists who are being so nice to the Trump administration all the way through?

The Megyn Kelly Show

Clooney Lectures About Journalism, and Dems Lean on Bernie and AOC, with Ben Shapiro and Stephen A. Smith | Ep. 1033

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And when he talks about settlements that these various outlets are making with President Trump, that's because they literally engaged in slander and libel of President Trump. And they thought that they were going to lose a big settlement to him. It's not because they're trying to buy access to the presidents of the United States by paying him money.

The Megyn Kelly Show

Clooney Lectures About Journalism, and Dems Lean on Bernie and AOC, with Ben Shapiro and Stephen A. Smith | Ep. 1033

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And if he's going to make that actual argument, then probably he should just make that argument overtly as opposed to this sort of break the fourth wall. First of all, that must be terrible. That must be death in the theater.

The Megyn Kelly Show

Clooney Lectures About Journalism, and Dems Lean on Bernie and AOC, with Ben Shapiro and Stephen A. Smith | Ep. 1033

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You're there to watch Good Night and Good Luck, and suddenly the actor turns to you and starts lecturing you, breaking the fourth wall about modern politics, how obnoxious he is just as a human.

The Megyn Kelly Show

Clooney Lectures About Journalism, and Dems Lean on Bernie and AOC, with Ben Shapiro and Stephen A. Smith | Ep. 1033

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It's especially crap because you remember we all covered Obama and Biden at that particular event. And that was the footage where Obama literally guided Biden off the stage by the arm. And we all commented on it at the time. We're like, this guy looks like he doesn't know where he is on the stage.

The Megyn Kelly Show

Clooney Lectures About Journalism, and Dems Lean on Bernie and AOC, with Ben Shapiro and Stephen A. Smith | Ep. 1033

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It looks like he's being physically guided by the former president of the United States off the stage. That was when the White House started retailing the line that these were all cheap fakes. right, that actually Biden knew exactly where he was and was doing handsprings on the stage. And we had sort of cut out of context all of that. Clooney was there. Clooney was a co-sponsor of that event.

The Megyn Kelly Show

Clooney Lectures About Journalism, and Dems Lean on Bernie and AOC, with Ben Shapiro and Stephen A. Smith | Ep. 1033

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And as you say, it's not just that he said nothing. It's that he was there and said nothing for weeks until it became perfectly obvious that Joe Biden was going to absolutely get clobbered by Trump in November. And at that point, that's when he said. Now, it would have been something if after that event, like the day after he had said, yeah, I saw him on stage.

The Megyn Kelly Show

Clooney Lectures About Journalism, and Dems Lean on Bernie and AOC, with Ben Shapiro and Stephen A. Smith | Ep. 1033

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He looked terrible and we really need to get rid of him. Even that would have been late because the reality is that George Clooney has had access to Joe Biden for several years at this point, and Biden's been ailing. But as you say, the timeline doesn't match up. And again, I don't know why Democrats insist on throwing actors out there to pretend that they are the role that they are playing.

The Megyn Kelly Show

Clooney Lectures About Journalism, and Dems Lean on Bernie and AOC, with Ben Shapiro and Stephen A. Smith | Ep. 1033

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Right. George Clooney is not a doctor because he was on ER. And George Clooney is not a journalist because he's in Good Night and Good Luck.

The Megyn Kelly Show

Clooney Lectures About Journalism, and Dems Lean on Bernie and AOC, with Ben Shapiro and Stephen A. Smith | Ep. 1033

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It is a very bizarre relationship that these folks have with Hollywood where they still yearn after Martin Sheen because he once played the president on TV. And now George Clooney is their moral leader when it comes to journalism.

The Megyn Kelly Show

Clooney Lectures About Journalism, and Dems Lean on Bernie and AOC, with Ben Shapiro and Stephen A. Smith | Ep. 1033

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How about you actually provide us examples of people in the field that you're talking about who you think are really good at this and use those people as the examples as opposed to the actor who's playing the thing to lecture you about the thing, but only when President Trump is president. He underwent a four-year kind of missing process

The Megyn Kelly Show

Clooney Lectures About Journalism, and Dems Lean on Bernie and AOC, with Ben Shapiro and Stephen A. Smith | Ep. 1033

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inaction period where suddenly, apparently journalism was just fine. Like several years there, journalism was totally fine, except on the one issue where he decided he had to sound off to kind of throw Joe Biden off the back of the bus. But apparently journalism was fine covering the Biden administration until precisely the moment he decided it wasn't. It's pretty selective.

The Megyn Kelly Show

Epstein Files Debacle, and Trump Spars with Zelensky in Oval Office, with Emily Jashinsky and Red Scare Hosts | Ep. 1016

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Was appear on stage with President Trump on November 4th, my birthday in Pittsburgh and say President Trump gets it. The reasons you're voting and list the reasons you're voting for him. A lot to do with masculinity, which I want to ask you about later. And I wonder how you think about that in terms of. Does it compromise you as a journalist?

The Megyn Kelly Show

Epstein Files Debacle, and Trump Spars with Zelensky in Oval Office, with Emily Jashinsky and Red Scare Hosts | Ep. 1016

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Do you benefit from this environment in which people are losing trust in everyone else and turning to you? I think your audience probably, I would guess, mostly voted for Trump, but I know lots of people who watched you and didn't. Do you worry that they can't trust you, that as you cover him going forward, that they'll kind of think you're in the tank?

The Megyn Kelly Show

Epstein Files Debacle, and Trump Spars with Zelensky in Oval Office, with Emily Jashinsky and Red Scare Hosts | Ep. 1016

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But ultimately, you depend for information on the people that you're criticizing, don't you? Do you ever feel like it would be better if you had a producer occasionally, like in the old days, being like, Megan, maybe that's too much?

The Megyn Kelly Show

Epstein Files Debacle, and Trump Spars with Zelensky in Oval Office, with Emily Jashinsky and Red Scare Hosts | Ep. 1016

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I was talking to another broadcaster the other night, and she said, you know, one thing Megan does that most of us don't do is go after other people in media really personally. Like, there's sort of a gentleman's agreement in a lot of media to not attack each other personally. You had a very heated riff on, I'm forgetting her name, but the mother of Elon Musk's latest child.

The Megyn Kelly Show

Epstein Files Debacle, and Trump Spars with Zelensky in Oval Office, with Emily Jashinsky and Red Scare Hosts | Ep. 1016

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The bulk of YouTube is always going to be, here is like an incredible monologue that went viral. Do you feel like you've been shaped by the medium? That you've been pushed into these sort of like more heated monologues, these kind of... you know, these maybe more confrontational... I don't know. There's something about that kind of monologue that's about trying to go viral.

The Megyn Kelly Show

Epstein Files Debacle, and Trump Spars with Zelensky in Oval Office, with Emily Jashinsky and Red Scare Hosts | Ep. 1016

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I think your audience, I would guess, mostly voted for Trump, but I know lots of people who watched you and didn't. Do you worry that they can't trust you as you cover him going forward, that they'll kind of think you're in the tank?

The Megyn Kelly Show

Epstein Files Debacle, and Trump Spars with Zelensky in Oval Office, with Emily Jashinsky and Red Scare Hosts | Ep. 1016

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years ago, protesters went to Tucker Carlson's home. I think you probably both remember very vividly. You called it at the time stomach turning and said it has to stop. But it's funny, I was talking to another broadcaster the other night and she said, you know, one thing Meghan does that is most of us don't do is go after other people in media really personally.

The Megyn Kelly Show

Epstein Files Debacle, and Trump Spars with Zelensky in Oval Office, with Emily Jashinsky and Red Scare Hosts | Ep. 1016

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Like there's sort of a gentleman's agreement in a lot of media to not attack each other personally. And that I don't know if I don't know if you think that's true as a broadcast or

The Megyn Kelly Show

Epstein Files Debacle, and Trump Spars with Zelensky in Oval Office, with Emily Jashinsky and Red Scare Hosts | Ep. 1016

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You recently talked about Maddow's public complaints and sort of said that she should put up or shut up basically. But also about her expensive real estate, about her homes. And I'm curious, do you have any compunction about getting that personal information?

The Megyn Kelly Show

Power of Trump 2.0, Why Elon and DOGE are Working, and Independent Media's Impact, with Jason Calacanis and Chamath Palihapitiya of All-In | Ep. 1008

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You're exactly right about the characterization of the relationship, right? We work for them. They don't work for us. And, you know, we operate at the pleasure of these hosts. And the minute that they see someone who's doing better for them, who can help them monetize better or grow their show better or whatever it may be that we're doing in each individual case, then they can move. Yeah.

The Megyn Kelly Show

Power of Trump 2.0, Why Elon and DOGE are Working, and Independent Media's Impact, with Jason Calacanis and Chamath Palihapitiya of All-In | Ep. 1008

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This is the way that this business works. And so if you want to be part of the creator economy, you have to realize that creators are in charge. And it's our job to do as good of a job for them as we possibly can to make sure that they do want to be with us and not somebody else.