Ben Mucelis (Ben Mycelis)

We have a lot to discuss on today's episode of the Midas Touch podcast.

Donald Trump and the MAGA Republicans refusing to talk with Democrats, yet alone even hold negotiations as Donald Trump and the MAGA Republicans want to rip healthcare away from tens of millions of Americans.

I think it's going to be fine.

We want it to be safe, which means Hamas will now stay in control.

I mean, just as an observer of that,

Certainly a whole lot of things that I wanna say, a lot of things that I know that all Americans right now are concerned about and rightfully so.

that would seem to make no sense to me.

And also, when he cites these numbers of 60,000 and Trump's one to speak of very high numbers, one of the things that we know, and he admits to it, but doesn't realize that he's admitting, is when the people,

are going back to their communities, they're seeing that their homes are blown up because a lot of the casualties were innocent Palestinian people.

I mean, the horrific atrocities that occurred there, again, it's unspeakable what's transpired and what's taken place.

And then where the,

Trump Israel version of this deal differs from the Trump Arab country.

Trump Hamas version is over this idea that the Israel version is Hamas disarms.

The Hamas version is basically they temporarily freeze rebuilding, but it has nothing to do with disarming.

And the leaders of Hamas have said they're not disarming.

And one of the points in Donald Trump's plan

is eventually he becomes the leader of Gaza.

That Trump leads the council that runs Gaza.

now do you think that that's something that hamas is going to agree to and allow that donald trump and netanyahu running gaza and is that also why donald trump doesn't want to answer the question about a two-state solution so what happened is he going to show up there how is he going to rule god what does that even mean what does it even mean and again to me if you're reporting on by the way i'm not suggesting that i have all the answers okay

We got these massive protests coming up this weekend, the No Kings protest.

I am suggesting that on certain clear points, I can reflect to you the moral clarity that I think you will be asking me to answer the question, should there be a free Palestine?

Yes.

Should there be a two-state solution?

Yes.

Should Hamas be running it?

No.

So to me, I'm addressing those issues, but Trump's not even addressing those issues.

But then what happens after, you know, and then and the media wasn't asking those questions.

I've heard from so many of you that so many of you are going.

And then they weren't really showing what was going down today.

I mean, like you have Trump praising Viktor Orban at this press conference in front of world leaders and everyone behind him.

You have Georgia Maloney, the prime minister of Italy.

You have Prime Minister Keir Starmer behind him.

Like they're all so uncomfortable because he's praising Putin's puppet.

uh victor orban right there just like again this is a moment that just it's deeply embarrassing here play this clip we have hungry oh victor where is victor victor victor we love victor victor i call him you know i put the little the little accent on it

One of the things that I love is when you tag us in the photos when you're at these events, especially when you have Midas touch on your signs and you're spreading the word.

you're going to do great and we appreciate it and we'll behind you 100 that's hungry we're not behind him 100 we're not behind him 100 we're not behind him 100 okay he's the putin faction that is harming the european union

Behind him, you have Giorgio Maloney from the EU.

You have Keir Starmer, which was not in the EU after Brexit.

But they're visibly uncomfortable at what he's saying.

And that is undercutting the entire pro-democracy.

Like, dude wants a Nobel Peace Prize, but he's literally undercutting democracy as he stands up there.

And Orbán is well behind in the polls, actually, in Hungary.

And Hungary's been a complete mess.

just like Argentina, right?

All these Trump places.

If you compare Poland and Hungary post-Soviet control, Poland, which went largely in a democracy direction, has a powerful economy in contrast to Hungary, where inflation was surging, bad economy, dependent on Putin's oil.

in addition to protesting.

You know how Donald Trump's whole attack on the Europeans, you're getting too much oil from Putin, which is...

Any oil from Putin's probably too much.

I think that is the coolest thing.

But Orban literally gets all of his oil from Putin.

That's the whole source of Orban's oil.

And Trump's up there praising them.

So he's undercutting the Ukraine effort while he's there and then not talking about a two state solution.

And our corporate media doesn't address this.

Like, that's why I feel sometimes like I'm a

I'm looking forward to speaking about the latest updates with the ceasefire.

I'm not a crazy, I'm just like, what's going, why aren't they evaluating what's happening?

And I don't think my observations, I'm not, no offense to me, I don't think they're particularly special.

I'm just telling you what the hell they're, I'm just saying, watch that.

Like, that's not normal.

That should be something that's leading the headlines, but it's not.

Sorry, Brett.

no it's not good but you know trump has an affinity for people like victor orban obviously i think he has an affinity for a lot of rulers in the middle east as well because i think trump views himself as a supreme leader um as many of these leaders are uh who you know don't need checks and balances in order to get stuff done who could just rule with an iron fist donald trump sees that and he goes oh that's what real strength looks like that's what we need to bring into the united states i think we have the clips maybe we could show them in a little bit

So great to see the hostages home.

of him praising Egypt and going, oh, you have the lowest crime in Egypt, everything, no crime.

Better than democratic cities, better than democratic governors, he said.

Yeah, it's absurd.

But like, when he's saying things like that, the subtext of it that a lot of people don't pick up on, including the media, is he's praising authoritarian rule.

Really heartwarming to see that footage.

And so you see what's happening over there.

And like we said, the ceasefire is fantastic news.

The release of the hostages, the exchanges, that's all fantastic news.

But you see Donald Trump kind of building up his authoritarian kind of street cred as well.

So much more to be done, but it's so great that we're able to see that.

And you see all the attacks that he is unleashing on the American people here at home as well.

And it's incredibly frightening when you put that together and you kind of paint the full picture.

And for a guy who wants the Nobel Peace Prize, I'm sorry, but when there are Black Hawk helicopters flying over our cities like Chicago, when you strip away USAID funding and destroy that agency and you have 14 million people expected to die by 2030 because of your actions, when you're bombing boats indiscriminately in the Caribbean and we find out you say it's a Venezuelan boat, but it's actually a Colombian boat.

and you said you were going after drug runners, and then a woman says that her husband was a fisherman and was killed.

I mean, I'm sorry, I'm gonna say I'm not so sure about that Nobel buddy.

And no one ever really talks about the fact that it's just so freaking weird.

And at least for this moment in time,

that we have a president of the United States going out there, ostensibly to try to win himself a Nobel Peace Prize.

This is the biggest thing that he wants.

He's lobbying for an award.

It's just the weirdest thing.

thing ever that everyone is just accepting as normal now.

see an end to the hostilities and an end to that horrific, horrific fighting that we saw there in Gaza.

You have Benjamin Netanyahu posting AI images of Donald Trump with Nobel Peace Prizes.

The whole thing is just so bizarre to me, and especially when we're dealing with such serious issues like this.

But of course, Trump always picks the losers, right?

Trump always picks the Viktor Orbans.

He always picks the Malays.

He always picks the people who have this sort of strongman vibe.

But in reality, it's a kakistocracy in all of these countries ruled by the dumbest people among them.

And the countries inevitably fail because these leaders actually don't know what the hell they're doing.

Just like, well, Donald Trump here in the United States.

1000%.

I agree with you, Brad.

There's nothing weirder.

Well, there's a lot of things weird, but there's nothing weirder than Donald Trump begging for a Nobel Peace Prize.

To your point, could you imagine if Obama did this or if Bush did this?

It's just such weird, bizarre behavior.

But he's a person, if you could call Trump a person, that is deeply insecure.

clearly right he needs the awards he needs the attention it's why he watches the new the corporate media the way he does it so he could hear he's got rabbit ears so he could hear exactly what everyone is saying about him at all times and if they don't say the right thing to his liking he's going to do a mean true social post about it and he's gonna he's gonna be angry and so it it's just such an embarrassing thing for the united states of america to have

Jordi, like I said, we have a whole lot to say, a whole lot to talk about.

to have the leader, Ben, to have the guy in charge acting in such a buffoonery way.

Yeah, you know, and to me on a day like today, what I would want in a leader of the United States is someone who acts with humility, right?

Someone who's humble, who says this isn't about me, this was about the region, that yes, today was a step in the right direction, but we need to make sure that now is when the hard work begins.

I want to pass it to you first, and then I want to get into it.

That's my expectation of what a leader is.

Yeah, I want to thank my predecessors.

I want to thank former President Biden for putting together the framework that we were able to build upon for this release.

You know, this is how I plan on making this release actually work and last the ceasefire actually last.

No, thanks, B. And what's up, Midas Mighty?

So we have a piece.

I want to thank so and so.

But no, Donald Trump has zero humility whatsoever.

And on the contrary,

when he went to the Knesset, he was actually trashing our leaders.

I never thought I would see the day where you have a president of the United States go to the Knesset, go to any foreign government, give a speech and trash the United States of America.

I can't wait for today's show as well.

How freaking anti-American do you have to be?

How dangerous do you have to be to get up there and give a MAGA rally speech?

at the Knesset and go, oh, the President Obama sucks and President Biden sucked.

A lot, a lot, a lot to get into.

Like, how dare you?

That's the tone you're setting right now in this moment as we're seeking peace?

And there's no leader in the world that behaves in that type of fashion.

Even the really bad dictators and tyrants don't want to be clown themselves with that level of behavior by trashing governors within your country.

I'm excited.

like like like leaders within your portions of your country like again that's just fundamentally what what weak people do even if you have problems with people you want to go internationally with the united front because if you don't you actually show weakness so yeah i mean look all of those people who are standing there they're not standing there for trump

Ben, why don't we just start off?

Where do you want to lead us off today, big bro?

They're standing there for the region and they're standing there because what America has represented to their country since World War I and World War II.

So that's why they're there while they're also charting a course for what a new world order looks like with a weaker United States as one pole in a multipolar world who you can't rely on the same way that you used to.

Let's get into it right away.

I think let's talk about the undisputed facts.

and we're seeing that play out internationally which is a major part of our coverage on the midas touch network when we return a little bit more we'll talk about the international stage then we'll go and talk about domestic issues what's going on here with the government shutdown mega mike johnson's latest i think disastrous presser early in the day and then we'll talk about the no kings protest coming up and how mega republicans are responding to that

I think it's an undisputed fact that a ceasefire between Israel and Hamas to end what's taking place is a good thing.

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Benji, I just want to say real quick, you know, most people don't know.

Last week, you were dealing with a little bit of a tooth issue, but you showed up every single day, big bro, better than ever.

And to the untrained ear,

You wouldn't even know that you had this tooth thing going on.

You were in and out of dentist's office.

Most people don't know the lengths that you go to to get these interviews and videos done.

And I just want to give you your flowers right now in front of the Midas.

Ben calls us the other day.

Okay, let's quick aside.

Ben calls us the other day and he's like, I have a bone sticking through my teeth.

What are you talking about?

I'm like, what does that mean?

He's like the root canal that I had the other day.

And at the same time, Hamas has held these remaining 20 living hostages for quite some time.

I need to go back.

There's a bone sticking through my gums.

I was like, are you going to take off the next couple of days I get?

He's like, no, I'll do some videos when I'm back.

I'm like, I don't know you'll be able to do some.

He's like, no, I got it.

And he goes there again.

the procedure done and doesn't miss a freaking beat but ben you know they kind of outlined that there was a great article written about you in the guardian which was incredible i hope everybody uh checks it out but it outlined your crazy schedule we all work really hard here at the network um because we want to get people the facts we want to get people the truth but uh but i i think that kind of showed the work ethic that we're uh that we're working with over here

Well, you know how Donald Trump lied about his bone spurs in order to dodge the draft?

So I actually had a bone spur in my mouth and what it came from was I had my wisdom teeth pulled finally about two months ago.

And when it was healing, one of the things that could happen is that the bone from underneath kind of pops out.

And so without getting gross and just turning off our entire audience and losing everybody from watching,

the bone would pop out so it would cut my tongue and it felt like the worst sore throat, like every swallow felt like a little shot.

And so every day, like, oh my God, I'm so painful.

And then I finally got that removed.

And so when I did some of the videos, like the Harry Lipman videos and others, my whole mouth was numb.

And so I would do the whole thing, do the whole thing, just totally numb.

And, you know, but anyway, that's my dental story.

And it has been an incredibly important thing to bring back the hostages.

I'm in the dentist once a week now, basically.

All right, let's get into it.

Donald Trump on the international stage, though, as well, literally, he's got the world leader standing behind him, and there's a lot of ways to conduct diplomacy, but this is how Donald Trump chooses to talk about Italy's prime minister, Giorgia Maloney, who's standing behind him.

Let me just show you this.

It's pretty embarrassing.

Here, play this clip.

I think those are undisputed facts.

Again, just what a misogynistic, weird way to talk about.

I mean, regardless of what I feel about Maloney, I mean, that's a pretty demeaning way to treat a person.

I think at the same time, I've seen so much of the corporate news coverage spiking the football as though there's peace in the Middle East now and everything has been solved.

And she did not seem happy about it.

And then you had Keir Starmer looking like this guy's like, Keir Starmer's look

It's like, this guy's a crazy, like, this guy's crazy.

Like, if you could get into Keir Starmer's mind there, he's like, this is like literally a lunatic.

Like, what the hell is even going on here?

So then Donald Trump goes from saying that she's a beautiful young woman, okay, to then perpetuating the lie that we've now brought in close to $18 trillion from tariffs on the tariff shelf.

It was $17 trillion.

Now it's gone up to $18 trillion.

Yeah, because it's not true.

It's not true.

It's not true.

Now, finally, finally, CNN did a fact check.

Daniel Dale did the fact check.

What's also interesting, though, is that like that fact check is put next to like other fact checks of like things that are not of consequence when he tries to fact check like Democrats and other people all the time.

He once did a whole fact check article on us where we said that Marjorie Taylor Greene was not clapping.

during zielinski's address to congress because she wasn't clapping she did like like one like touch of her hand and i kid you not daniel dale did an entire article on us and said that she was clapping because the hand touch

constitutes a clap.

We're like, first off, she wasn't clapping.

Second off, you're missing the whole point here, which is that she and these MAGA Republicans are about to try to undermine America's support of Ukraine.

I think that's irresponsible reporting on what has actually transpired.

Can you focus on that part of what we were saying also, which they did not do when we were right about what we were saying then?

So any event, I guess I'm glad that he did the fact check.

So the White House came back to Daniel Dale, though, with a list.

And the White House list is $8.8 trillion.

not even the 18 trillion, but then the 8.8 trillion includes commitments only, not actual deals, commitments, but then it's like $1 trillion commitment from Qatar.

Okay, well, Qatar's entire annual GDP is $166 billion, okay?

So they're not giving 10 times their GDP.

The United Arab Emirates was like $1.2 trillion.

Well, their entire annual GDP is $440 billion.

So they're not giving 4X their entire GDP to the United States.

It included 500 billion from India.

There's not even a trade deal with India.

It included like $1 trillion from Japan, just an entirely made up number, like $700 billion from Europe based on European company private investments, like just literally fraud.

I mean, I think it's a ceasefire and there have been dozens of ceasefires in the history of that specific region.

the bernie madoff ponzi scheme was 66 billion dollars trump's doing it in plain view saying it's 18 trillion and if we've brought in 18 trillion dollars then why can't we extend the affordable care act subsidies to the american people

Why are people unable to afford healthcare if we've apparently got on the shelf $18 trillion?

And my other question is, why are we bailing out Argentina to the tune of $20 billion right now while 20 million Americans are about to lose their healthcare?

20 billion to Argentina, 20 million Americans, Donald Trump says, go pound sand.

We'll talk more about what's going on in the domestic front in just a minute, but I don't want to leave out these points.

This was Donald Trump in the Knesset attacking Obama and Biden on the world stage.

I just want you to see again how vile this behavior is here playing this clip.

I want to talk about what took place in the Middle East today, the ceasefire deal between Israel and Hamas.

Former President Biden was able to secure the release of about 140 hostages.

That's how he was using the day.

And I can't emphasize enough how much that harms the United States on the world stage when that behavior takes place.

Then when he was meeting with the leader of Egypt, Donald Trump praises Egypt versus governors in the United States as though Egypt

is better than what los angeles california i mean what chicago illinois i mean state cities counties in the u.s that literally subsidize the red states red states operate like argentina and hungary they're mostly failed states but for california which contributes 84 billion dollars more to the federal government than it takes

And I think when you add up the 20 today and eight before, I think Trump was able to return about 28 hostages.

That's a common pattern, by the way.

Los Angeles County alone would be, if it was a state, would be the fourth largest giver or donor state to the federal government then in terms of what it takes.

Meanwhile, Texas, a red state, takes Leach.

takes 75 billion dollars more than it gives broken electric grids we saw what happened with the disastrous flash floods the guadalupe river there's still dead children who are missing um texas refused to take the money from the biden administration because it was too woke to do alarm systems emergency warning systems about floods which would have saved the children but they just they move on they just cover it up they're going to reopen up the camp

they don't want to talk about it anymore no no no it can't even have conversation how offensive to even bring that up to them but anyway here's donald trump with the leader of egypt attacking democratic governors and saying egypt is like better here play this clip we're in a country where a friend of mine is a very powerful leader and my friend is right here the president also the general you know

We want hostages being returned.

We want the atrocities in Gaza to stop.

I mean, it's quite literally insane, Brett and Jordy, and Midas might.

I mean, what are we watching there, right?

It's just disgraceful, too, especially, you know, for the guy who everything is incredibly hyperbolic and everything is, this is the greatest, the best, you know, all the adjectives he uses.

For him to go around as the president of the United States, the foremost representative of the United States, and just constantly trying

I think it is important, though, that, again, we don't spike the football on this moment.

shit on our cities, shit on our leaders.

Like it is just so demeaning to the country.

I cannot imagine.

Can you imagine if like Macron came to the United States and was like, so y'all heard about Paris, that hell hole, that what piece of shit Paris?

Oh, nice, screw that place, right?

I'm gonna send in the military here

because the people who are running nice they don't know what the hell they're doing that crap hole like you'd be like what that what is this maniac doing and sometimes you got to put yourself in another position in order to fully see just how nuts it is but i know how you know i know what i know all of you understand it but it's just the craziest thing it's so anti-american in my opinion also and you could really be a leader who's uplifting the country who

who's using these moments to unite the country, to talk positively about the country, to actually do things to help these cities.

We have to recognize what also is taking place.

But instead you have Donald Trump who is launching attacks on these cities.

He's saying it's to help these cities, but it's certainly not.

Nobody is asking for his quote unquote help.

he's sending black hawk helicopters he's sending federal troops he's flying these helicopters above apartment buildings people are terrorized they have trouble sleeping because it feels like there's a military presence in their cities because there is the whole thing is just absolutely deranged and you see right now while the entire media is out there celebrating donald trump you see trump very quickly turning the united states into an authoritarian country

I mean, Hamas now is continuing to patrol the streets.

where he's able to do whatever he wants.

He doesn't have a check from the courts.

He doesn't have a check from the Congress.

He can just do whatever he wants, say whatever he wants.

People in his administration commit crimes on camera.

Tom Holman took 50,000 bucks for a bribe.

Who cares?

And then they go on the shows and they're so smug about it when they're asked about it.

They're demanding the press have signed special pledges if they want to report on certain aspects of the government.

And the stuff we're seeing right now in the United States is totally twisted.

I do gotta give some credit though, where credit is due here.

There are a number of news organizations out there who have shut down that request from the Trump administration, Ben, including the Guardian who did the piece on you, but the New York Times, CNN, and many others have told the White House

Hamas has said that it has no intention of disarming.

And Pete Hegseth, absolutely not.

We are not signing your damn loyalty pledge.

That's not what we do as a news organization.

And I got to say, good on them to do that.

For those who don't know, Pete Hegseth wants the news companies, wants the media to sign a pledge that any story that they write about the Department of Defense or the Pentagon, whatever, has to be run by the United States government for approvals first, even if it has nothing to do with anything that's classified whatsoever.

At the same time, the defense minister of Israel says that very soon they are going to be

So I think all these media companies need to join.

The companies have already spoken out and they need to say, hell no, because what's the point of that access if you're only able to report on stuff that the government allows you to?

At that point, you are no longer a news organization.

I want to be clear, you are a propaganda arm of the United States.

And that's why as of now, as of this recording, I think the only outlet out there that has agreed to sign this pledge for Pete Hegseth has been OAN, which is a mega propaganda network.

Exactly.

It's become one of my phrases that I like to say on the show.

But what in the Kim Jong-un is that about?

I mean, just scary, Brett, the way that is framed right there.

And can I just say something, brothers?

November 5th.

Did you know November 5th?

That's when we got really hot.

We got really hot November 5th.

resuming attacks on Hamas-related infrastructure, as they frame it, and tunnels.

It's all so weird.

Don't be gaslit by anyone into thinking that any of this behavior is normal.

What is this, 2003 with Paris Hilton?

That's hot.

i always try and remember like where in this make america great again arc like trump is referring to and i i think we've pretty much established like late 80s late 80s early 90s just based on the celebrities that they adore and you know that was trump's heyday when he was running amok in florida with his boy jeffrey epstein released the epstein files and it's just so freaking

weird when he gets up there on a national stage it's beyond undignified it's beneath the office the way he behaves and he just goes after democratic run cities brett like in front of these other global leaders it's it's truly embarrassing and it hurts me it genuinely hurts me as someone who loves this country to see the person at the helm once again acting like such a buffoon and

it's upsetting and i know we're all collectively going through it don't be gaslit once again by anyone around you who says any of this behavior is normal and then lastly benji i just want to hit on what you started this segment with daniel dale i forgot about that little feud but we had about the whole clapping clip that was a that was a funny one but no no daniel simpler times daniel you're wonderful we're not we're not bringing that feud back up ben after the show

So you have Hamas not disarming, patrolling the streets in Gaza, the IDF's head saying that they're going to resume attacks, and then Donald Trump saying that he has, when asked about a two-state solution, he doesn't provide a response.

Well, look, the issue with Daniel Dale, I'm not going to fully let the feud go away, is we would be analyzing what the behavior was.

And then he would continuously fact check us based on what Donald Trump said.

so we would say here's what he's doing and then daniel dale but false donald trump has said over and over again that he's not going to be doing those things and i'd be like yes i understand that's what he said but can we look at what his actual actions and by the way to this day that that's continued to be a through line of who donald trump is and how corporate media is so beholden to donald trump taking him at his word and at face value when you can he's a liar it's known

And Jordy, I think Donald Trump's reference of when America was great is actually pre-World War I. I think he has it 1890 to 1910.

His frame of reference for how he views the world is 1980.

He's frozen in time in the 80s and the 90s when he talks about the types of energy,

the relationship of the United States to other countries, like his perspective on Japan, trading relationships.

He views the world like of what was going on then, but I think he says we were the greatest when there were

there was no income tax and it was purely based on tariffs to raise money, despite the fact that if you actually look at history, tariffs were one of the accelerating forces on the Great Depression.

We got a lot more to discuss.

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Democrats are fighting back.

I mean, I appreciate some of the fight back that we're actually seeing now.

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Let's talk a lot about what's going on with this government shutdown.

There seems to be no end in sight.

I mean, when Donald Trump and the MAGA Republicans are refusing to even talk with Democrats, yet alone negotiate, and they need Democrat votes to pass the resolution.

He spoke in front of the Knesset in Israel.

Just go back.

Let's make this simple.

Think about your fifth grade government class or whenever you took it, fourth grade or sixth grade.

What we learned, right, is that the parties in a multi-party system or a two-party system need to talk to each other.

Then he went to Egypt and he made it like a birthday party for himself, like a celebration.

So here, where Democrats are trying to talk to Republicans and Republicans saying, we don't want to talk with you, let alone negotiate with you.

We're going to do it on our own.

You can't have a functioning government where that dynamic takes place.

I know we can get more specific, obviously, about what's going on here, but I think that's a fundamental point, and I don't want to just miss the basics.

They're governing like we don't need to actually build consensus and speak to the other group that represents half the country.

We don't want you.

That's very, very, very disturbing as a concept, right?

And then what are the Democrats fighting for here?

An extension of the Affordable Care Act subsidies, like something that's basic.

Whether you're in a red state or a blue state, your healthcare costs are about to skyrocket if these subsidies are not extended.

He made all the world leaders show up and basically say how great he is.

Donald Trump and the Republicans had Trump's first term to come up with their own healthcare plan, and they've had nine months to come up with one now.

It's not a healthcare plan to just go and say, we're going to reduce prices by 1,600%.

That's a fake number, okay?

And that's not a plan.

You're just doing fraud.

It's not a healthcare plan to post AI videos or

of alien technology from outer space called MedBeds that doesn't exist, obviously.

Then he gave this long rambling speech and corporate news bought into the Trump narrative, hook, line and sinker, when the narrative should be focused on the region.

There's no alien technology.

But it's a QAnon conspiracy, as Donald Trump posts, and say, this is going to cure all of your illnesses.

That's actually something that Donald Trump posted.

It's corporate news.

He just posts crazy things, so we're not going to talk about it.

But it's important that we talk about it in the context of, well, what's your health care plan?

Also, back in May, Donald Trump said, I've signed an executive order

that will allow our prescription drug prices to cost as low as the lowest price for that same prescription drug price in the country where it's the lowest.

So if you factor in, you pick the drug and they're charging $1 for it in Canada, then Donald Trump says it will cost that amount of money in the United States, $1 also.

But that's not happening.

That's just fraud.

It's a lie.

That didn't happen, okay?

How do I know it didn't happen?

Do you think it happened?

Has it happened to you?

Has the most favored nation provision been implemented?

Of course it hasn't been.

And again, I think that's why we have to talk about the reality of the situation, which is that these Republicans have not put forward a plan.

And look,

uh hakeem jeffries democratic leader he posted this video that's now been viewed about two million times and it's been very simple like literally the video says save health care and then it repeats save health care then it says hospitals will close and then it says premiums will skyrocket okay pretty basic message um not a fancy video it just says should be non-controversial right well immediately mega republicans started responding like tim burchett we did not create obamacare

MAGA Republican Congress member Mike Lawler.

Obamacare was passed by Democrats.

The Obamacare tax credits were passed by Democrats during COVID and slated to expire at the end of this year.

Since Obamacare took effect, healthcare premiums have risen by over 60%.

Your failed policies created a healthcare crisis.

Well, one of the reasons we have these subsidies is to lower the prices.

Ever since Obamacare, the Affordable Care Act was introduced, Democrats have tried very hard to keep the prices down.

Republicans have blocked a lot of the efforts to build upon the work of Obamacare.

But if you have a better plan, then introduce what your plan is to the American people.

This is a good day for the region, but it's a good day and it's a ceasefire.

Talk about what it is, sell the plan, go through a legislative process the way Obamacare did.

Because before Obamacare, insurance companies could discriminate against people on the basis of pre-existing conditions.

20 plus million Americans were uninsured and they would just die.

They would die because they didn't have health care.

And premiums were through the roof and were very, very, very expensive.

So if you have a better plan, the plan that I like, I'll use my moral clarity on the show, is universal healthcare.

I believe the government should provide healthcare to all Americans for free.

Ben, where do you get the money from?

Tax rich people more.

that's my view you could disagree with it you could agree with it we're subsidizing billionaires right now to get more private jets and to get more yachts i think they should basically pay the amount of money for that one extra jet

for helping the greater good of the country as a gesture of patriotism for being so rich that's my view you could disagree with it you could say okay well i don't want that i don't okay well what do you want you want affordable care act which you use these subsidies to bring the prices down that's an option that's an option

And I think we have to have responsible conversations about what is to come.

I think the premiums are still too high, but that's why we brought in the subsidies.

So should we subsidize it more?

But then you have to come up with a plan.

And Brett and Jordy, I think what this shutdown has exposed, particularly today, is that what Republicans have, what this is all about, and MAGA Mike admitted it today, was repealing Obamacare.

So when they go and say, just open up the government now and we'll talk about healthcare, bruh.

Just trust us, bro.

We're gonna talk about, but you gotta open it up and then we're gonna do something super.

And I think so much of the Trump error has been or the error in the Trump error by the media, which I think is intentional, is this congratulatory, this buying into the narrative without us observing what's going to happen now.

No, you're not.

No, you're not.

You're gonna repeal healthcare.

That's what you're gonna do.

How do I know that?

Because you said it.

Here's Maga Mike saying it today.

He's asked the right question.

This is the question that I've been saying.

Ask him.

Ask him, what's your plan?

Do you want to repeal Obamacare?

And listen to what he says, because this is actually sick.

He says it gave him.

and the Republicans, PTSD.

It gave them post-traumatic stress disorder when McCain did the thumbs down and saved Obamacare.

He said that act of saving the Affordable Care Act caused him PTSD.

What a sick thing to say when Americans actually suffer from real PTSD and now don't have the healthcare to treat their conditions.

Here, play this clip.

Okay.

He rambles on and on and on.

And he doesn't give a plan.

Yeah, like how he says he has a plan.

Doesn't that give away the whole game right there?

I mean, doesn't that give away the whole game?

100%.

And everything he says is a lie, right?

Listen, I think virtually all Americans could agree that there's an issue with our healthcare system that needs extreme solving.

The Republican plan, if they were to say it, would be to remove Obamacare to make it so people with pre-existing conditions could get denied coverage like they were before Obamacare, to end the expanded coverage that Obamacare gave, to take away the marketplace, to remove the subsidies as we're seeing here.

if you don't agree to a free palestine if you don't agree to a two-state solution what are we what are we really talking about and when do the hostilities resume and how do we prevent those hostilities from resuming so i think that's an important point that i want to say from the outset let me pause there because i'm going to show clips but that's my two cents of how i think we have to report on this responsibly yes good day very good day that should be bipartisan

happen right now to remove the block on lifetime limits.

Like there were so many things that Obamacare implemented that were game changers for Americans.

And I feel like still enough people in this country don't even give it enough credit, but you know, the majority of this country does

have a positive opinion on the Affordable Care Act.

Could it have been better?

Could there have been a public option?

Yes, that was voted down at the last second.

There's so many things that could have been done there.

But Mike Johnson is spreading a false narrative.

He's acting like insurance premiums weren't rising before Obamacare.

I thought Donald Trump's speech was very bizarre.

In the 10 years before Obamacare became law, I think insurance premiums rose like 200%.

And so now they're saying that insurance premiums have went up 60% since Obamacare.

which sounds like a lot and it's still healthcare is way too expensive for americans but that's significantly less than it was it's growing at a slower pace in fact if you put it next to things like housing if you put it next to things like cars and you could food prices like the the price of health care is actually increased at a much lower rate than all of those things thanks to the affordable care act mike johnson has no plan here donald trump has no plan here

And the words he uses are just so sleazy and slimy.

And it's so that he can act like, oh, I care.

I'm Mike Johnson.

We're just trying to do our best.

But these pesky Democrats.

But it's really sinister what he's doing and just really, really disgusting, in my opinion.

I want to try to pull this up if I could find it.

But Ron Filipkowski at the Midas Touch Network did an incredible translation

of mike johnson's comments this is from our sub stack midasplus.com you get great daily political news of bulletins the best in the universe at midasplus.com and so ron philip caskey editor-in-chief did this translation of mike johnson's comments that you just heard so he said johnson then said the quiet part out loud can we completely repeal and replace obamacare many of us are skeptical about that now because the roots are so deep it was really sinister the way it was created

I believe Obamacare was created to implode upon itself, to collapse upon itself.

So Ron says when Mike Johnson says the roots are so deep, that means it's really freaking popular.

Most of the American people really like the Affordable Care Act.

They do not want to change or get rid of the Affordable Care Act.

then ron says when mike johnson says quote really sinister the way it was created well mike johnson is hinting at there a mike johnson translation is that a black man was the person who developed the law and ron goes on to say this is what he's been saying all year you know they can't repeal the affordable care act they know it's too popular

and their plan is to just kind of crush the funding of it to try to destroy it, to choke off the funding, to end the subsidies.

That is why Democrats have made this their fight because they understand what the Republicans are trying to do right now.

This is not only a temporary battle right now,

to extend these subsidies.

This is a battle for healthcare at large.

This is a battle for people to be able to not die in this country because Republicans have so strained the funding from such an essential service in this country.

That's why this is so contentious.

That's why you see the Democrats not backing down.

and that's why these republicans are just so shameful what they are doing here and the lies they are spreading and their inability to just be honest with the american people and tell the damn truth about what's going on here and to get in a room with the party you need the democrats votes you're the majority party it's your job to actually run a government and to bring those people in and say let's make a deal let's compromise but they don't care about making a deal

They just care about being subservient to Donald Trump, their Lord Emperor, who they just do whatever the hell he wants.

There was a Wall Street Journal piece that was talking about Donald Trump in Congress.

You have the United States government still in shutdown mode with no end in sight.

And he's like, yeah, it's amazing.

They just rubber stamp everything I do.

It's the best.

That's not how it's supposed to be in this country.

This is supposed to be checks and balances.

But right now we have a Congress, we have courts, we have all these things that are just saying here, executive branch, take all of our power.

We don't want it anyway.

It's all you, King Trump."

And that, to me, is deeply, deeply troubling.

Absolutely.

Look, let's remind everyone the Republicans control every branch of government at this time.

And so, when they try and continue to pin us on the Democrats, I mean, it's a really head-scratching moment.

It's like, look,

to a certain extent you all got all the power here republicans you guys are the reason this shutdown is still happening and for me i look at it through an additional lens brett every day that passes and the government is shut down for me is just another reminder that donald trump and the republican party would rather protect pedos than figure out a sustainable health care plan because once the government reopens you know what you're also going to get is a vote to release the epstein files

But we also have to be responsible in recognizing, wait a minute, Trump's not talking about a two-state solution.

And so this is all such a head-scratching moment for me as Johnson continues to deflect at the expense of the American people.

And it's incredibly frustrating when he gives this sort of, oh, shucks behavior, and he's just trying to be this really smooth-talking guy.

There couldn't be anything further from the truth with Johnson.

I mean, he just comes off incredibly phony, super slimy, and that's every time he takes a stand there, Brad.

And just the disgraceful things they're doing, which are clear violations of the law, clear violations of the Hatch Act, like when they change all these government websites to say, this is the fault of the Democrats.

The Democrats have shut down the government.

They don't want you to get your care.

When they talk about the videos they're playing at the airports, like did you see that Christine Home video?

He wanted to make this all about himself, me, me, me, me, me.

Hamas is saying they're not going to disarm.

If you showed me that and said that this is a video that plays in North Korea to silence their opposition, I'd be like, this is horrifying.

We need to do something about that.

But Kristi Noem, as they're playing these videos from the Department of Homeland Security, where she goes around and she goes, while people are waiting in TSA lines, she goes around and she goes, sorry that things are slower right now, but this is the fault of those evil Democrats who are doing this to you.

Like, this is really...

really really horrifying things but that's why it's so important that people stand up to this tyranny and that they refuse to be silenced and that's why i'm so excited that the no kings protests are coming up this saturday they are expected to be even bigger than the last ones millions and millions and millions of people

Israel's saying they're going to blow up the tunnel.

taking to the streets to say, well, no kings.

And you see, you see like this antibody type reaction from this fascist government in which we are living right now, trying to silence these no kings protesters, trying to say

that these protesters, they're all Antifa, these protesters, they all hate America, using just horrific language of people who are just trying to use their free expression to speak out against a government that is overstepping.

What has happened?

That's all.

And so you've had people now from all across the administration who have been going on TV.

No, I think that's a totally fair point, Ben.

Like you could name a person, I'll show you them on TV saying things about these no king protests in the most heinous terms.

So first, let me show you this clip of Scott Besant, the Treasury Secretary.

He goes on TV, I don't even totally fully know what he means by this, but he's like, no kings means no paychecks.

He's somehow equating the no kings protests to the government shutdown, despite the fact that...

The No Kings protests were organized far before the government shut down.

And what I try to do with any situation, in anything, I think it keeps me honest, it keeps me fair, is I think if what's happening right now happened under the Biden administration, how would I be feeling?

and this is getting serious it's starting to affect the real economy it's starting to affect people's lives okay so i think there was a little bit something there at the end too that's worth noting that he wants to blame the bad economy under trump remember they still haven't released the employment numbers uh and they're blaming the shutdown for it but they want to blame the bad economy under trump over the government shutdown and try to pin it on democrats that's part of the the seeds that besant is planting over there

But like I said, you name a cabinet secretary, let's go to the secretary.

Why is the secretary of transportation even speaking about no King's protest?

Can you speak about how you're going to speed up things at the airports and keep planes from falling out of the sky?

But here is Sean Duffy of Real World Road Rules Challenge fame equating these protests to saying that it's their TIFA, their paid protesters.

Watch this.

republicans run the senate what is the question who's running the show in the senate you all control the senate majority leader thune is the leader of the senate you guys control the senate and that language that he is saying right there to me brothers and my this mighty is just is incredibly troubling especially when you put it in context of things that have happened over the past few weeks like donald trump saying

If I woke up in a coma and I heard this news, what would my reaction be?

Antifa is a terrorist organization saying we could use lethal force against Antifa, just like we use lethal force against terrorists around the world.

Remember, Donald Trump is doing these extrajudicial killings of like just targeting fishing boats and stuff in the Caribbean.

He's essentially saying that he has the right to kill anybody who participates in these protests.

And my reaction would be one of happiness, one of this is a great day, a great news.

Like if you draw a direct line between what he's saying, he held that very frightening position.

uh bizarre uh event with like mega propagandist influencers uh last week uh which was the antifa round table and his whole thing is it's not about you know antifa it's not about you know this is a terrorist group the real mission behind what donald trump is doing here is clearly he wants to silence all dissent and anybody who also

helps fund any of the groups anyone who helps organize any of these events in which people speak out against him he's trying to get to basically the funding of all any and all opposition big money funders who fund the democratic party big organizer groups who put help put together rallies like the no kings rallies

Donald Trump and his government are trying to use the weight of the federal government to crush all dissent, to try to eradicate the opposition party.

And so their language, when you hear them say things like that, is very intentional.

I don't think you could watch that footage of the Israeli hostages coming home, hugging their loved ones,

I mean, I could show you, I'll show you Tom Emmer quickly, okay?

Tom Emmer saying that this is like a terrorist event.

Watch this.

That's the majority whip of the House of Representatives, saying things that are so utterly irresponsible.

And I know all of you have been to these events too.

By the way, congrats on your paychecks going to all these events.

If you need to get your back pay, hit us up.

We'll tell you.

No, I'm just kidding.

But all of you have been to these events, they're all been incredibly peaceful.

I proudly attended the No Kings event last time when it was, I went to the one near me here.

It was a great vibe, it was a patriotic vibe, people with American flags, people who wanted to uphold the constitution of the United States, people who loved this country, people who were there saying, no Kings, that we don't do tyrants in the country, hilarious signs, a great vibe of community there, people helping one another.

after being in captivity for so long and not feel something and not see those, you know, when you see those videos of the Palestinians and they're also celebrating that they're, you know, no longer at the whims of this brutal assault from the Israeli government.

And for Donald Trump and his regime to turn around and call you all, who are watching this, who participate in these things, to say, y'all are paid.

You are terrorists.

You are pro-Hamas.

You are evil.

You need to be eradicated.

You are anti-American.

That, to me, going back full circle to this entire episode, it's why enough of the praising of this guy at Legacy Media.

Let's focus on what he's doing and the threat that he poses, not just to the entire world, but also to us here at home, the American people.

great point spread the anti-american stuff get really upsets me too because there actually isn't anything more american more patriotic than getting out there and peacefully protesting so i'm excited to see you all out there this weekend please tag us in signs tag us in your protest tag us wherever you name the social media we're going to do our best to repost and uplift all of y'all so seriously let's get out there and let's peacefully do this thing ben yes they're kind of telling themselves too when they're like

And he was spiking the football when we're just

Did you say you're anti-fascist?

What did you say about me?

Did you just call yourself a fascist?

I was against fascism.

You seem to take that personally for some reason.

Ken Klippenstein did a good report on this.

I'm interviewing him about NSPM 7, National Security Presidential Memorandum 7, which is different.

than an executive order.

It actually directed our national security apparatus to open up an office in a suburban area in Virginia, a few miles away from the CIA headquarters, where every day they are compiling lists of people who they view as anti-American,