Ben Bolin
Appearances
Behind the Bastards
Part One: How Tainted Human Blood Became A Major U.S. Export
Yeah, that's what people say about me. Yeah.
Behind the Bastards
Part One: How Tainted Human Blood Became A Major U.S. Export
Sounds like big dairy to me, bro.
Behind the Bastards
Part One: How Tainted Human Blood Became A Major U.S. Export
Milk, it's what's in your blood.
Behind the Bastards
Part One: How Tainted Human Blood Became A Major U.S. Export
That's what everybody says about you, man.
Behind the Bastards
Part One: How Tainted Human Blood Became A Major U.S. Export
I also love, you know, like any other damn peer, I am a huge supporter of blood donations. You know what I mean?
Behind the Bastards
Part One: How Tainted Human Blood Became A Major U.S. Export
Oh, like if you steal a Honda Civic, you make more money selling parts of the Civic.
Behind the Bastards
Part One: How Tainted Human Blood Became A Major U.S. Export
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Which is the new up-and-coming, we call it kiddo currency. Mm-hmm. It is Evans and Bolins. That's right. Selfie rate production. We're a limited liability company, so don't try to come at us. Don't even try. Yeah.
Behind the Bastards
Part One: How Tainted Human Blood Became A Major U.S. Export
They are not light. This is going to be great for our lats.
Behind the Bastards
Part One: How Tainted Human Blood Became A Major U.S. Export
You know, what's amazing about this is somebody, one of us is listening right now and is doing the fireman carry with a goat. And they're like, I'm fucking ahead in the game.
Behind the Bastards
Part One: How Tainted Human Blood Became A Major U.S. Export
Yeah, the orange juice and the crackers don't quite get you back to 100%. I think it was something like pre-pandemic, I want to say, still a very small amount of people in the U.S. donated blood.
Behind the Bastards
Part One: How Tainted Human Blood Became A Major U.S. Export
Okay. So it's like maybe a concentration of those vectors, something like that. Yeah. The further I say this, the dumber I'll sound. Yeah.
Behind the Bastards
Part One: How Tainted Human Blood Became A Major U.S. Export
And this exists in a profit-seeking environment.
Behind the Bastards
Part One: How Tainted Human Blood Became A Major U.S. Export
Ooh, by value, not by liquid weight. Okay.
Behind the Bastards
Part One: How Tainted Human Blood Became A Major U.S. Export
Yeah, like our... Like our ongoing, quite successful bag of catalytic converters business. Exactly.
Behind the Bastards
Part One: How Tainted Human Blood Became A Major U.S. Export
Clever, clever question, Robert, because that would factor in things like plasma. Right, yes, of course. Okay, so with that, I would... Gosh, it's a difficult question. It's a difficult question. I don't know the answer.
Behind the Bastards
Part One: How Tainted Human Blood Became A Major U.S. Export
Finally, yes. We've been living the dream, dying the dream. Yes, here we go. Yeah, it's great to it's great to be back. It's great to hang out with you. I was thinking of you and the team recently because I don't know whether you recall, Robert, but know these many years ago when you were just beginning a podcast called Behind the Bastards.
Behind the Bastards
Part One: How Tainted Human Blood Became A Major U.S. Export
Right. Or if someone had previously donated to one institution. Right.
Behind the Bastards
Part One: How Tainted Human Blood Became A Major U.S. Export
The blood money industry? Right. The blood money. Yes.
Behind the Bastards
Part One: How Tainted Human Blood Became A Major U.S. Export
ah the people who are uh loophole enslaved in this country yes yes yes and you know there are several things
Behind the Bastards
Part One: How Tainted Human Blood Became A Major U.S. Export
The days of stray blood are over. That's right. That's what we're aspiring toward. I hate that we have to bring this up. Another thing going into this, if we are counting something, we being human civilization, as a vital resource such that we're going to cut some corners- Corners to get enough of it, sure. Yeah, due diligence. then we're also going to, oh, we already did it.
Behind the Bastards
Part One: How Tainted Human Blood Became A Major U.S. Export
We already cut the corners on liability or responsibility. I don't know, man. I just, I... Robert, you know, I'm a fan of the show. I don't want to spoil it, but it doesn't sound like this ends well. I thought maybe this would be the one happy episode.
Behind the Bastards
Part One: How Tainted Human Blood Became A Major U.S. Export
Yeah, because these people have the incarcerated in the U.S. penal system have very little recourse. Yes.
Behind the Bastards
Part One: How Tainted Human Blood Became A Major U.S. Export
That's top 10. Yes. That's top 10.
Behind the Bastards
Part One: How Tainted Human Blood Became A Major U.S. Export
Right, right. And further, come on, let's spend a little time just scratching behind the ears of statements like non-binding. Come on, pinky swear me. You guys, let's pinky swear. Just not here. Right. Just somewhere else.
Behind the Bastards
Part One: How Tainted Human Blood Became A Major U.S. Export
The earlier laws regarding U.S. produced propaganda, for instance. Right. Right. Oh, geez. Well, this don't do it. Don't do it here. Don't you know, it's like it's like the shitty stepdad. Yeah. About smoking cigarettes. Yeah. Just don't do it. Well, you know, I can see it. I don't want to tell your mama smelled it.
Behind the Bastards
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Yeah. Or 70s. Well, still, I had someone in that level. Yeah. The judiciary at that time. Yeah. Probably. They probably got their own, you know, crime. Some shit. Yeah.
Behind the Bastards
Part One: How Tainted Human Blood Became A Major U.S. Export
They got that seven-league stare. You know what I mean?
Behind the Bastards
Part One: How Tainted Human Blood Became A Major U.S. Export
It's like here in Atlanta, you might hang out in various... Well, I'll say it. If someone is too hard into crack cocaine or methamphetamine, and you know that person, and they tell you not to hang out with Wild Jimmy, then don't hang out with Wild Jimmy.
Behind the Bastards
Part One: How Tainted Human Blood Became A Major U.S. Export
But this shows us the extent of the problem, and perhaps it shows us that the money moved despite observations of what would have been the rule of law, right?
Behind the Bastards
Part One: How Tainted Human Blood Became A Major U.S. Export
Oh, it's non-binding. Sorry. It's not binding. Right.
Behind the Bastards
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Go USA. To an extent, yes.
Behind the Bastards
Part One: How Tainted Human Blood Became A Major U.S. Export
Cut to Governor Clinton doing a sick saxophone riff. Oh, yeah.
Behind the Bastards
Part One: How Tainted Human Blood Became A Major U.S. Export
Oh, the right to bleed.
Behind the Bastards
Part One: How Tainted Human Blood Became A Major U.S. Export
It's guards, right? I mean, come on. I thought you were going to be fun about it, but no, you're right.
Behind the Bastards
Part One: How Tainted Human Blood Became A Major U.S. Export
Anything can be currency.
Behind the Bastards
Part One: How Tainted Human Blood Became A Major U.S. Export
Despite clearly, provably having something like hepatitis A through C, HIV, etc.
Behind the Bastards
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Yeah, like it's, you know, the modern era. You got to... Yeah. We know, right? We know that someone will do something.
Behind the Bastards
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Yeah, right. Someone will always do something. Tragedy of the commons. You walk into a public space and you go, man, surely somebody sweeps here. Yeah.
Behind the Bastards
Part One: How Tainted Human Blood Became A Major U.S. Export
I mean, you know, not me, obviously, but surely someone along the chain.
Behind the Bastards
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Oh, hi. Also, wait, before we go, I do want to point this out. For anybody who is a nurse or RN associated listening, that is not to denigrate at all. No, no, no. You guys have a lot of stuff you're doing. Yeah.
Behind the Bastards
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True. Yeah. It's like it's it's like a single knife versus Swiss Army knife.
Behind the Bastards
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Yeah. So this this all, you know, just like as a representative of big vampire. Yeah. This sounds too expensive.
Behind the Bastards
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Anyone professional. Yeah. Let's get let's get rid of these fancy degree types. I want someone on the ground who ask fewer questions.
Behind the Bastards
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Yeah. Yeah. You don't have to be a perfect person to exercise logic. That's what he's doing.
Behind the Bastards
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That's really well put, too. That's one of the best articulations I've heard of that. Honestly, I'm not blowing smoke. There is an interlinked system. Regardless of whether people want to admit that is deeply tied together.
Behind the Bastards
Part One: How Tainted Human Blood Became A Major U.S. Export
You should care. Maybe you should maybe not try to give them diseases while stealing their blood.
Behind the Bastards
Part One: How Tainted Human Blood Became A Major U.S. Export
I mean, just like, you know, if you're spitballing, right?
Behind the Bastards
Part One: How Tainted Human Blood Became A Major U.S. Export
All right, hang on. You said you were going to be cool. You're right, you're right, you're right.
Behind the Bastards
Part One: How Tainted Human Blood Became A Major U.S. Export
Wait, you have this confirmed?
Behind the Bastards
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They like it though.
Behind the Bastards
Part One: How Tainted Human Blood Became A Major U.S. Export
And then the question that we have to ask on behalf of everybody tuning in, the question is, at what threshold can we still maintain some sort of possible, if not plausible, deniability, right?
Behind the Bastards
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Just wrap it up. Wrap up the investigation. Get back to your fucking saxophone. Right. And play nice.
Behind the Bastards
Part One: How Tainted Human Blood Became A Major U.S. Export
Whatever you want, buddy.
Behind the Bastards
Part One: How Tainted Human Blood Became A Major U.S. Export
Oh, man, I'm so stoked about how great this is all going. Yeah, it's going to be good. I feel like this is a real cliffhanger. This is a turn moment.
Behind the Bastards
Part One: How Tainted Human Blood Became A Major U.S. Export
You graced us with with an appearance, a cameo, dropped a hot 16 on a show we do called Ridiculous. Yes. Do you remember that?
Behind the Bastards
Part One: How Tainted Human Blood Became A Major U.S. Export
You should already get bonus points for recognizing that blood exists. Right.
Behind the Bastards
Part One: How Tainted Human Blood Became A Major U.S. Export
Yeah, who knows, Robert?
Behind the Bastards
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Yeah, maybe the real blood money was the friends we made along the way and whatever. But yes, this is a story more people need to learn about. And I think it's a story that a lot of people are a little bit shook to investigate because in very divisive domestic times, it may tell you a narrative that you don't want to hear.
Behind the Bastards
Part One: How Tainted Human Blood Became A Major U.S. Export
Everybody needs it. We need someone to write the full parody lyrics of this. Send it to us. Copyright free. Copyright free. Absolutely. Copyright or whatever.
Behind the Bastards
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I think maybe like, yeah, thank you in advance, folks. Maybe like just a non sequitur, you know, there's no joke, like an old joke, especially a specific one. So give it, you know, give it a few years.
Behind the Bastards
Part One: How Tainted Human Blood Became A Major U.S. Export
Oh, boy. Fuck it. That's the real banality of evil. Oh, geez.
Behind the Bastards
Part One: How Tainted Human Blood Became A Major U.S. Export
Ah, yes, theinternet.com. That's a real up-and-coming thing, and thank you for asking, Robert. Well, you can find me hanging out occasionally with you on Behind the Bastards in Ages Past. You can check out Critical Thinking Applied to Allegations of Conspiracy and Stuff They Don't Want You to Know or Ridiculous History. You can also find myself calling meself at Ben Bolin.
Behind the Bastards
Part One: How Tainted Human Blood Became A Major U.S. Export
and a burst of creativity, wherever there's an at sign. And then, you know, before now, you could have found me just freestyle selling blood on the streets, but I'm really excited about the catalytic converter thing. I think that's going to be big for us.
Behind the Bastards
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Yeah, that's the problem. It's like, not only do you have too much blood, but your humors are off, dog. You know what I mean?
Behind the Bastards
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Right. We have to sacrifice a certain amount of people. Yes.
Behind the Bastards
Part One: How Tainted Human Blood Became A Major U.S. Export
Sometimes if the computer doesn't work, it's because there's too much blood.
Behind the Bastards
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Yeah. Yeah. Maybe we should look out for the outlook religion. Mm hmm.
Behind the Bastards
Part One: How Tainted Human Blood Became A Major U.S. Export
Or do you just have a knife that has occasionally been used for sacrifice?
Behind the Bastards
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Folks, folks, Robert just did pull it up. And while you know it is to his right, it is to his right.
Behind the Bastards
Part One: How Tainted Human Blood Became A Major U.S. Export
You're right. Yes. Oregon originated as a supremacist.
Behind the Bastards
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Well, it's also like, you know, a modern comparison, Robert, might be the idea of heart transplants, right? With non-human organs. Right, right. Not to get too far ahead, but like that's a situation where current human technology can sort of band-aid you. You might make it, you know, a year or so. Yeah. It's not an actual facts human heart.
Behind the Bastards
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Do you mean like- Ben Bolin, host of Stuff They Don't Want You to Know and Ridiculous History and a bunch of other stuff. All right, all right. You mentioned one of them, yes. Like as a fan or just the industry overall?
Behind the Bastards
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It reminds me of, and I don't know enough to speak off expertise here, but it reminds me of that old trick with elderly cars, I'll call them vintage cars, where if the radiator is fucking up, you can put a couple things in to just keep the radiator going until you get to the gas station. So maybe the lamb's blood thing is like that.
Behind the Bastards
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Quick question, though. Quick question. Yeah. Robert, if you're imagining it, and Sophie as well, this World War II doctor who stumbled upon coconut water band-aiding blood or the circulatory-
Behind the Bastards
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if that is how it happened uh yeah what what do you imagine like if their hand is going over a table with all sorts of other on it what else did they look at first what do you think yeah given the state of things at the time straight liquor what if we just put some jim bean in there will that save their lives And they're like, no, we're saving the liquor for the guys who aren't bleeding out.