Bella Thorne

And yeah, and I think the reading out loud and having a book that's solely based on mental health and being a bit of a mess and dealing with those feelings on the inside and being able to do that, all three of those things was like such a, yeah, I don't think I'll ever forget that feeling.

And yeah, and I think the reading out loud and having a book that's solely based on mental health and being a bit of a mess and dealing with those feelings on the inside and being able to do that, all three of those things was like such a, yeah, I don't think I'll ever forget that feeling.

yeah i do remember that the person i was dating though at the time decided to pick a fight with me the whole night okay and i was so upset and i ordered like uber eats um and i'll never forget that i actually like looked at the street that they were picking up the food at for some reason and it was delancey street which is my dad's name so i was like Yes. And also, F you, boyfriend.

yeah i do remember that the person i was dating though at the time decided to pick a fight with me the whole night okay and i was so upset and i ordered like uber eats um and i'll never forget that i actually like looked at the street that they were picking up the food at for some reason and it was delancey street which is my dad's name so i was like Yes. And also, F you, boyfriend.

You can go suck it. Yeah. So it was nice. It was like my dad's like, don't let anybody dim your shine. You got it.

You can go suck it. Yeah. So it was nice. It was like my dad's like, don't let anybody dim your shine. You got it.

Because I read the whole, I was so afraid to mess up one word that I read the entire book like this, all like this and the whole entire time. And then I was done.

Because I read the whole, I was so afraid to mess up one word that I read the entire book like this, all like this and the whole entire time. And then I was done.

I feel like I have to get through as fast as possible. I will not mess up. I will not mess up.

I feel like I have to get through as fast as possible. I will not mess up. I will not mess up.

A motorcycle accident.

A motorcycle accident.

Yes. He had nitrous put on his Ducati, which, as you know, is a great idea for anybody. And he had problems with his bike turning off.

Yes. He had nitrous put on his Ducati, which, as you know, is a great idea for anybody. And he had problems with his bike turning off.

and he took it back to the shop and i remember my mom and dad arguing about this bike in general my mom always saying like you're gonna kill yourself one day using that bike like she was so upset when he got it and it was turning off so they put it back in the shop and the shop let it out earlier than it was supposed to and that first time he rode it um it just stopped and he spun out

and he took it back to the shop and i remember my mom and dad arguing about this bike in general my mom always saying like you're gonna kill yourself one day using that bike like she was so upset when he got it and it was turning off so they put it back in the shop and the shop let it out earlier than it was supposed to and that first time he rode it um it just stopped and he spun out

And then they airlifted him. And by the time they got him on the table, per se, because he had so many broken bones, his heart gave out on him and then he had a heart attack. So technically he died of a heart attack, but it was because of too much pressure. Yeah. So that was shitty. And then our grandma died like two months later. And that was like, you know, my mom's mom.

And then they airlifted him. And by the time they got him on the table, per se, because he had so many broken bones, his heart gave out on him and then he had a heart attack. So technically he died of a heart attack, but it was because of too much pressure. Yeah. So that was shitty. And then our grandma died like two months later. And that was like, you know, my mom's mom.

That's like, you know, the one who really raised her. And that just, oof, that was a double, a double whammy for the family for sure.

That's like, you know, the one who really raised her. And that just, oof, that was a double, a double whammy for the family for sure.

oh well we just heard we were supposed to go to the beach that morning my dad was also supposed to come up in the next few days finally to LA and kind of close out his house there and actually move here with us so that was also weird timing and And I remember in my bunk bed hearing my mother screams, screams, screams, screams.

oh well we just heard we were supposed to go to the beach that morning my dad was also supposed to come up in the next few days finally to LA and kind of close out his house there and actually move here with us so that was also weird timing and And I remember in my bunk bed hearing my mother screams, screams, screams, screams.

And I walked out and she was against the wall and she fell to the floor and she's on the phone and she's just screaming bloody screams. murder, like an animal being slaughtered is what it sounded like. I'll never forget those screams. And she didn't believe them as well. She was like, you're lying to me because his phone was off and they turned it on and all the text messages come through.

And I walked out and she was against the wall and she fell to the floor and she's on the phone and she's just screaming bloody screams. murder, like an animal being slaughtered is what it sounded like. I'll never forget those screams. And she didn't believe them as well. She was like, you're lying to me because his phone was off and they turned it on and all the text messages come through.

So she's like, I just got texts from him like literally 15 minutes ago. So it has to be wrong. And that also like messed with her brain. And then it took hours, you know, for then somebody to come to the door. So in that whole time she was in complete disbelief. It's just not possible. He's just texted me. You have it wrong. And then when the police came to the door,

So she's like, I just got texts from him like literally 15 minutes ago. So it has to be wrong. And that also like messed with her brain. And then it took hours, you know, for then somebody to come to the door. So in that whole time she was in complete disbelief. It's just not possible. He's just texted me. You have it wrong. And then when the police came to the door,

Yeah, then that was another... Yeah.

Yeah, then that was another... Yeah.

Yeah, I think my mom knew in her soul, though, with those blood-curdling screams, it was like her heart had been ripped out, and we didn't have enough money to go down to see him, to... Tremate him, essentially, and whatnot. So that was also a dark time as well, because we couldn't be there. We were actually given to our friends, the Webbers, funny enough, who ended up on The Bachelor. Yeah.

Yeah, I think my mom knew in her soul, though, with those blood-curdling screams, it was like her heart had been ripped out, and we didn't have enough money to go down to see him, to... Tremate him, essentially, and whatnot. So that was also a dark time as well, because we couldn't be there. We were actually given to our friends, the Webbers, funny enough, who ended up on The Bachelor. Yeah.

Yeah. What? Yeah, Peter Weber. Yeah, Jack and Peter. And they became like our solace for that like week while my mom went down and dealt with the, you know, passing stuff. And then she came down and the house was broken into. Everything was gone, stolen. Like, oh, my mom just got it again and again and again. And then...

Yeah. What? Yeah, Peter Weber. Yeah, Jack and Peter. And they became like our solace for that like week while my mom went down and dealt with the, you know, passing stuff. And then she came down and the house was broken into. Everything was gone, stolen. Like, oh, my mom just got it again and again and again. And then...

Yeah, the only way that we even were able to, I think, fully understands when she came back, she had photos of him on the metal slab. And she showed us those photos on the BlackBerry. Wow. Yeah, never forget them photos either.

Yeah, the only way that we even were able to, I think, fully understands when she came back, she had photos of him on the metal slab. And she showed us those photos on the BlackBerry. Wow. Yeah, never forget them photos either.

And I remember we were arguing, my siblings and I were arguing, and my mom, she was just like... you want something to argue about? Look at this. And it was so much pain in that time. Like, do you feel like your mom had like anyone she could go to? It was just y'all. No one. Yeah. Um, and I think my mom has always felt that way in her life.

And I remember we were arguing, my siblings and I were arguing, and my mom, she was just like... you want something to argue about? Look at this. And it was so much pain in that time. Like, do you feel like your mom had like anyone she could go to? It was just y'all. No one. Yeah. Um, and I think my mom has always felt that way in her life.

You know, we don't have much family and my father's side is Jehovah witness and they like disowned him. Um, So they wouldn't even come to the cremation. And I know that hurt my mom a lot, not being able to have any side of his family.

You know, we don't have much family and my father's side is Jehovah witness and they like disowned him. Um, So they wouldn't even come to the cremation. And I know that hurt my mom a lot, not being able to have any side of his family.

Yeah.

Yeah.

No. No, no. We hadn't seen him in months at that point. Yeah. He was just coming back. So that was, yeah.

No. No, no. We hadn't seen him in months at that point. Yeah. He was just coming back. So that was, yeah.

Yes. Thankfully, yes, the house is there. I was out of town as well, filming, and my sister and whatnot had to evacuate, and it was so scary being on FaceTime and whatnot with her dealing with that situation. Yeah.

Yes. Thankfully, yes, the house is there. I was out of town as well, filming, and my sister and whatnot had to evacuate, and it was so scary being on FaceTime and whatnot with her dealing with that situation. Yeah.

yeah i don't know that we ever really fully you know will totally heal but we try to um honor his memory you know on his birthday we'll write things on a balloon and then send them up and

yeah i don't know that we ever really fully you know will totally heal but we try to um honor his memory you know on his birthday we'll write things on a balloon and then send them up and

think we all try in our own little ways i made my jewelry because he always wanted a thorn empire and that was and he never got to see that or us do any of that so that's why i call it thorn dynasty because hopefully one day he'll you know get to see that and be like yeah like you better get it um so yeah it's all like designed after florida and um family and my dad thank you

think we all try in our own little ways i made my jewelry because he always wanted a thorn empire and that was and he never got to see that or us do any of that so that's why i call it thorn dynasty because hopefully one day he'll you know get to see that and be like yeah like you better get it um so yeah it's all like designed after florida and um family and my dad thank you

So I feel like he is.

So I feel like he is.

Yeah, exactly. It's so special. And keep that for generations to come. When I have children and whatnot, obviously they'll never get to meet their grandpa. So I think...

Yeah, exactly. It's so special. And keep that for generations to come. When I have children and whatnot, obviously they'll never get to meet their grandpa. So I think...

having that i got a fucking painting of of a family photo of us hanging like right when you walk into my house and it's fucking big and these amazing artists did it for me and like they recaptured his smile so much so i'm definitely like not letting him die again in any sort of way

having that i got a fucking painting of of a family photo of us hanging like right when you walk into my house and it's fucking big and these amazing artists did it for me and like they recaptured his smile so much so i'm definitely like not letting him die again in any sort of way

I feel like I fucked up my makeup. You did it. You're beautiful. But I used a primer, so.

I feel like I fucked up my makeup. You did it. You're beautiful. But I used a primer, so.

That's a great question. I think I have... been an open book since i was 18 for so long and it felt really mean and kind of evil when people would use those things against me and blame me for them i've you know uh even when i had a face full of acne and i wouldn't wear makeup and i was popping it on snapchat and

That's a great question. I think I have... been an open book since i was 18 for so long and it felt really mean and kind of evil when people would use those things against me and blame me for them i've you know uh even when i had a face full of acne and i wouldn't wear makeup and i was popping it on snapchat and

And, you know, kind of going through the whole process and really trying to like be open about who I was. It was always like, oh, she has to be on heroin because look at her skin. It's so bad. Like, will she, you know, wash her face? She should try soap kind of things and like actual like articles writing that. not even just comments, like articles, writing that kind of language.

And, you know, kind of going through the whole process and really trying to like be open about who I was. It was always like, oh, she has to be on heroin because look at her skin. It's so bad. Like, will she, you know, wash her face? She should try soap kind of things and like actual like articles writing that. not even just comments, like articles, writing that kind of language.

And when I, you know, came out about being molested growing up, I think that was another thing that really hurt when people used it against me to almost speak badly on my character of who I am now as a put out my own nudes because I was being fucking threatened.

And when I, you know, came out about being molested growing up, I think that was another thing that really hurt when people used it against me to almost speak badly on my character of who I am now as a put out my own nudes because I was being fucking threatened.

And then, you know, will be Goldberg and said that I had essentially kind of deserved it in some way because I had sent the photo in the first place that I had even taken the photo.

And then, you know, will be Goldberg and said that I had essentially kind of deserved it in some way because I had sent the photo in the first place that I had even taken the photo.

Yeah. And I obviously got very upset because that was such a hard thing for me to do. And I remember I was on my book tour and I was about to do an interview and I was reading those texts and I literally asked my manager, I was like, what the fuck do I do here? And I was like, at this point, it's just so embarrassing. He's going to take it from me.

Yeah. And I obviously got very upset because that was such a hard thing for me to do. And I remember I was on my book tour and I was about to do an interview and I was reading those texts and I literally asked my manager, I was like, what the fuck do I do here? And I was like, at this point, it's just so embarrassing. He's going to take it from me.

He's going to take these parts of my body and somebody's already done this once to me. So I don't want them to do that again. Yeah. And so then it was like, well, if I do it, then it's my decision and it's not yours, even though it kind of still is your decision because I'm only doing it because of you, bitch. And so but at least it's mine. It's my stamp on it.

He's going to take these parts of my body and somebody's already done this once to me. So I don't want them to do that again. Yeah. And so then it was like, well, if I do it, then it's my decision and it's not yours, even though it kind of still is your decision because I'm only doing it because of you, bitch. And so but at least it's mine. It's my stamp on it.

And people saying that I like was faking that to put it to head to like get attention that I just wanted to like put out my body in that way and and do this and fake this thing. And yeah. that fucking hurt again. I was just like, like, these are really personal, seriously, deeply rooted like issues and things I've gone through and to have it thrown up in your face so much of like, you deserve it.

And people saying that I like was faking that to put it to head to like get attention that I just wanted to like put out my body in that way and and do this and fake this thing. And yeah. that fucking hurt again. I was just like, like, these are really personal, seriously, deeply rooted like issues and things I've gone through and to have it thrown up in your face so much of like, you deserve it.

And this is what you are. And you're that kind of woman. That's what you deserve. All of this was so hard at like fucking 2019 to like mentally go through. And I think some people think I'm like still the old me, like the crazy rebellious Bella. And you're like, Are you not fucking, like, are you fucking, what is happening here? Do you not see what I was going through at those times?

And this is what you are. And you're that kind of woman. That's what you deserve. All of this was so hard at like fucking 2019 to like mentally go through. And I think some people think I'm like still the old me, like the crazy rebellious Bella. And you're like, Are you not fucking, like, are you fucking, what is happening here? Do you not see what I was going through at those times?

What other way would any normal person react? Like, I'm still a teenager in some ways. And it was just really... yeah, shitty. And so I felt like I could not be honest anymore. Why would I be honest with you when all you do is throw it back in my face and blame me for it and call me disgusting for it? Thank God I also got to work with the FBI and put this son of a bitch away. And he did go away.

What other way would any normal person react? Like, I'm still a teenager in some ways. And it was just really... yeah, shitty. And so I felt like I could not be honest anymore. Why would I be honest with you when all you do is throw it back in my face and blame me for it and call me disgusting for it? Thank God I also got to work with the FBI and put this son of a bitch away. And he did go away.

Yes. Yeah, I did quite a few things before that. I was on Big Love on HBO and quite a few other shows, some movies, but nothing comedy. So that was my first comedy. I had wondered growing up in my life if I would ever do comedy, if I was even funny in any sort of way. Well, you crushed comedy.

Yes. Yeah, I did quite a few things before that. I was on Big Love on HBO and quite a few other shows, some movies, but nothing comedy. So that was my first comedy. I had wondered growing up in my life if I would ever do comedy, if I was even funny in any sort of way. Well, you crushed comedy.

And now he's sitting in there for like eight years. And he did it to all these other people as well. So When the FBI saw that post, they immediately reached out and was like, this is the same exact language. We know this guy has done it before and we have these other things and worked with me to put him away. I had to write the statements as well for the judge.

And now he's sitting in there for like eight years. And he did it to all these other people as well. So When the FBI saw that post, they immediately reached out and was like, this is the same exact language. We know this guy has done it before and we have these other things and worked with me to put him away. I had to write the statements as well for the judge.

And I had to go through that process again to write those statements. And in my heart, when they asked me to write it, I was like, Is this going to come out? And they were like, well, what do you mean? I was like, what if people post this statement? Like, again, they're going to take my words and how I feel and what this man took from me.

And I had to go through that process again to write those statements. And in my heart, when they asked me to write it, I was like, Is this going to come out? And they were like, well, what do you mean? I was like, what if people post this statement? Like, again, they're going to take my words and how I feel and what this man took from me.

And they're going to they're going to like fiend off of that. And that's fucking disgusting. So that was like so scary. And I just I think I just decided, no, I'm not doing this anymore. I'm not giving y'all nothing. When you act like that, why? Should I? And yeah, so I think I was just like, nope. And now I don't want to not be myself because that's only doing myself a disservice.

And they're going to they're going to like fiend off of that. And that's fucking disgusting. So that was like so scary. And I just I think I just decided, no, I'm not doing this anymore. I'm not giving y'all nothing. When you act like that, why? Should I? And yeah, so I think I was just like, nope. And now I don't want to not be myself because that's only doing myself a disservice.

And then everything that I go against, they've won. So it's like, either way, I feel like sometimes I'm in a Lose, lose, battle. I'm sure this interview will be even thrown up in my face. Like, oh, well, she and this and oh, crocodile tears or oh, she deserved it. Oh, she's too sexual. Look at her. Like, you know, just it's like it's just so shitty to hear every day all the time, I think.

And then everything that I go against, they've won. So it's like, either way, I feel like sometimes I'm in a Lose, lose, battle. I'm sure this interview will be even thrown up in my face. Like, oh, well, she and this and oh, crocodile tears or oh, she deserved it. Oh, she's too sexual. Look at her. Like, you know, just it's like it's just so shitty to hear every day all the time, I think.

So I've been like, I'll just not speak. But I don't think it's fair to teach people not to speak because you're afraid of speaking and getting ridiculed. That doesn't seem like a win.

So I've been like, I'll just not speak. But I don't think it's fair to teach people not to speak because you're afraid of speaking and getting ridiculed. That doesn't seem like a win.

Yes, I'm about to go direct a movie that I wrote that's based on a true story. It's so important. I've put, you know, blood, sweat and tears and so has everybody else. And that I'm I think is like one of the things that I'll first really be so happy about it. On the other side, man, I just decided to escape social media on the Instagrams and the Twitters. I was like, fuck all these little tweets.

Yes, I'm about to go direct a movie that I wrote that's based on a true story. It's so important. I've put, you know, blood, sweat and tears and so has everybody else. And that I'm I think is like one of the things that I'll first really be so happy about it. On the other side, man, I just decided to escape social media on the Instagrams and the Twitters. I was like, fuck all these little tweets.

At some point, you can't read your own shit because you're like, oh, I'm going to see one thing. Instead of focusing on all the amazing comments, you're going to focus on this one thing. If they really poked you somewhere where you were sensitive, boom, they've got you for the rest of the day. Some Somebody that I don't even know is offending me. The audacity is how I feel.

At some point, you can't read your own shit because you're like, oh, I'm going to see one thing. Instead of focusing on all the amazing comments, you're going to focus on this one thing. If they really poked you somewhere where you were sensitive, boom, they've got you for the rest of the day. Some Somebody that I don't even know is offending me. The audacity is how I feel.

So I liked when Instagram was when it first started and you would post a photo of your foot and like your random food and like weird selfie. And it became this, my resume, my resume, my resume. Here's how, whatever you think of me, here it is right here. What do you think of me? Judge me now and move on to the next person to judge them and then go... Same thing. Just keeps on going.

So I liked when Instagram was when it first started and you would post a photo of your foot and like your random food and like weird selfie. And it became this, my resume, my resume, my resume. Here's how, whatever you think of me, here it is right here. What do you think of me? Judge me now and move on to the next person to judge them and then go... Same thing. Just keeps on going.

And I'm just so over it. I'm quirky. I'm ridiculous. I think I also stopped being myself in interviews and in social media as well. I'm quite a quirky person. I do a lot of different voices. I like hop in and out. I'm very sarcastic. And I think a part of me kind of like that part of me kind of died. And people were wondering, like, where is that part? Is that was that still you?

And I'm just so over it. I'm quirky. I'm ridiculous. I think I also stopped being myself in interviews and in social media as well. I'm quite a quirky person. I do a lot of different voices. I like hop in and out. I'm very sarcastic. And I think a part of me kind of like that part of me kind of died. And people were wondering, like, where is that part? Is that was that still you?

And I would always get judged for it. Like, oh, she crazy. like and that kind of stuff when you're just a silly person people like scrolling like this like oh She looks bad. Oh, oh, oh, I didn't like that. Like why'd you do that? Like that's not I don't care to engage with those people anymore because I'm so sick of Asking for you to like me so I'm so sick of that. I'm not gonna do it anymore and

And I would always get judged for it. Like, oh, she crazy. like and that kind of stuff when you're just a silly person people like scrolling like this like oh She looks bad. Oh, oh, oh, I didn't like that. Like why'd you do that? Like that's not I don't care to engage with those people anymore because I'm so sick of Asking for you to like me so I'm so sick of that. I'm not gonna do it anymore and

An actual, like, what's it called? Oh, a hacker? A hacker. Yes, not a boyfriend. Oh, fuck.

An actual, like, what's it called? Oh, a hacker? A hacker. Yes, not a boyfriend. Oh, fuck.

Well, I had been modeling since I was born, since I was six weeks old, oddly enough.

Well, I had been modeling since I was born, since I was six weeks old, oddly enough.

Well, thank you so much for that. I was going to say the same to you for what happened to you guys and that you're being so brave and sharing it. And I think that that is going to help so many people, and especially in the political climate that we're in, it's so important to share your piece and your journey with it. And I think that that will be really...

Well, thank you so much for that. I was going to say the same to you for what happened to you guys and that you're being so brave and sharing it. And I think that that is going to help so many people, and especially in the political climate that we're in, it's so important to share your piece and your journey with it. And I think that that will be really...

No, actually, I was an ugly baby. My mom never forgets to remind me that I was a very ugly baby. She's like, I don't know how you booked these jobs, but you did. Yeah, I was born with the umbilical cord wrapped around my neck. So I was quite blue when I came out. Yeah. And they had to rush me away. And then hours later, they brought me back. And my mom was like, that one's not mine.

No, actually, I was an ugly baby. My mom never forgets to remind me that I was a very ugly baby. She's like, I don't know how you booked these jobs, but you did. Yeah, I was born with the umbilical cord wrapped around my neck. So I was quite blue when I came out. Yeah. And they had to rush me away. And then hours later, they brought me back. And my mom was like, that one's not mine.

heartwarming for a lot of people that have been through it and will feel like, thank God.

heartwarming for a lot of people that have been through it and will feel like, thank God.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

I think I'll next that question. Yeah. Yeah. There was a video sent from backstage. Yes, there was a video sent. Oh. Yes.

I think I'll next that question. Yeah. Yeah. There was a video sent from backstage. Yes, there was a video sent. Oh. Yes.

Interesting. Okay.

Interesting. Okay.

And the next question.

And the next question.

One of the things I love best is that we're always very, quite silly with one another and that we're always able to make kind of a dark joke out of a dark situation that we might be in in life, you know? And I think that we really connect in our humor and in our silliness. I also love the way that he takes care of me. I always feel very safe.

One of the things I love best is that we're always very, quite silly with one another and that we're always able to make kind of a dark joke out of a dark situation that we might be in in life, you know? And I think that we really connect in our humor and in our silliness. I also love the way that he takes care of me. I always feel very safe.

And that's a really hard thing, I think, for anybody to feel, especially women. It's very it's like everywhere you look, there's just been murder everywhere. everywhere. Not that your partner has to give that to you because that's a very hard thing to give. You can't just make somebody feel safe. It's not just about what you're doing and what you're saying.

And that's a really hard thing, I think, for anybody to feel, especially women. It's very it's like everywhere you look, there's just been murder everywhere. everywhere. Not that your partner has to give that to you because that's a very hard thing to give. You can't just make somebody feel safe. It's not just about what you're doing and what you're saying.

It's about everything all at the same time. I don't think I've ever felt safe with anybody that I've been with, actually. I felt more times that I had to make them feel safe in some situations and that not great. So I, I, I really love that he's able to do that quite effortlessly with me.

It's about everything all at the same time. I don't think I've ever felt safe with anybody that I've been with, actually. I felt more times that I had to make them feel safe in some situations and that not great. So I, I, I really love that he's able to do that quite effortlessly with me.

And she kept telling them to look at her other previous children. And they were all very beautiful babies. My sister even won the beautiful baby award in the hospital. Who does that? I mean. Wow. Since you're this little. Just getting into shame real early. And I had all this like dark hair that later on fell out and became blonde. But she was definitely kept telling them that I was not the baby.

And she kept telling them to look at her other previous children. And they were all very beautiful babies. My sister even won the beautiful baby award in the hospital. Who does that? I mean. Wow. Since you're this little. Just getting into shame real early. And I had all this like dark hair that later on fell out and became blonde. But she was definitely kept telling them that I was not the baby.

And again, it doesn't mean when you do it like that, you don't let it get out of hand for too long. And, you know, listen, more built up feelings and explode. Yeah, exactly.

And again, it doesn't mean when you do it like that, you don't let it get out of hand for too long. And, you know, listen, more built up feelings and explode. Yeah, exactly.

and like every relationship you know we have our shit you know we work through shit did you see that um thing going around on instagram that's like you know you're in a really great relationship if you're able to fart in in front of your partner do you guys fart in front of each other nick definitely does i don't um i never would never somehow not allowed to fart for some reason she's lying i've never farted i've never admitted to farting he doesn't he never admits to it's always like what

and like every relationship you know we have our shit you know we work through shit did you see that um thing going around on instagram that's like you know you're in a really great relationship if you're able to fart in in front of your partner do you guys fart in front of each other nick definitely does i don't um i never would never somehow not allowed to fart for some reason she's lying i've never farted i've never admitted to farting he doesn't he never admits to it's always like what

We have one toilet that we both use when the other person's not in the room. I am quite bathroom shy and I put on the tap. Oh, yes. Or I mostly play music out of my phone. So I'll always bring my phone and I just start blasting rap music. And I think then he knows it's time.

We have one toilet that we both use when the other person's not in the room. I am quite bathroom shy and I put on the tap. Oh, yes. Or I mostly play music out of my phone. So I'll always bring my phone and I just start blasting rap music. And I think then he knows it's time.

You can just know subconsciously, but you don't need to go there.

You can just know subconsciously, but you don't need to go there.

So we think the Instagram study's wrong then? Is that what we're saying?

So we think the Instagram study's wrong then? Is that what we're saying?

What do you mean not in front of each other? Like as in they have to leave the entirety of the bathroom if you are going to the bathroom?

What do you mean not in front of each other? Like as in they have to leave the entirety of the bathroom if you are going to the bathroom?

Is that what they, is that what she means? I guess. I think so. I think so. Oh, come on. Every time? Yeah.

Is that what they, is that what she means? I guess. I think so. I think so. Oh, come on. Every time? Yeah.

I was not the baby that came out. And they were like, no, this one is yours. She was like, no, not that one. Yeah.

I was not the baby that came out. And they were like, no, this one is yours. She was like, no, not that one. Yeah.

That wasn't the go-to. I'm quite still scared when it comes to camping and whatnot to pee. I have this phobia that a spider or a snake will come up and hurt me down there and hurt me bad. No, that's a fear. And forever scar me for the rest of my life. That is for sure scary.

That wasn't the go-to. I'm quite still scared when it comes to camping and whatnot to pee. I have this phobia that a spider or a snake will come up and hurt me down there and hurt me bad. No, that's a fear. And forever scar me for the rest of my life. That is for sure scary.

Yes, yes, I have done quite a bit of camping. Yeah, yeah.

Yes, yes, I have done quite a bit of camping. Yeah, yeah.

So then what's the next step? After that step happens, what's the next step when you still have the shiwis?

So then what's the next step? After that step happens, what's the next step when you still have the shiwis?

But then like, oh, I guess the dirt's not technically near the, I just don't like dirt anywhere in any, you know, near any sort of circumstance.

But then like, oh, I guess the dirt's not technically near the, I just don't like dirt anywhere in any, you know, near any sort of circumstance.

Sand in the charcuterie is not cool. The charcuterie board. Yes, of course. Sand in the charcuterie. Not y'all.

Sand in the charcuterie is not cool. The charcuterie board. Yes, of course. Sand in the charcuterie. Not y'all.

No, I would not.

No, I would not.

I did at one point, and now I think I've forgotten it. I know that one of them is a Taurus, and I was like, oh, that makes sense because my Libra-ness is a bit too chill for how I am personally.

I did at one point, and now I think I've forgotten it. I know that one of them is a Taurus, and I was like, oh, that makes sense because my Libra-ness is a bit too chill for how I am personally.

Yes. Yeah. All the way through. There was a Target commercial as well. I did commercials as well and then did acting. And One really fond memory I have is this Target commercial and there was all these butterflies on set and they had such colorful sets and everything matched and it was monochromatic. And it's really such a beautiful commercial.

Yes. Yeah. All the way through. There was a Target commercial as well. I did commercials as well and then did acting. And One really fond memory I have is this Target commercial and there was all these butterflies on set and they had such colorful sets and everything matched and it was monochromatic. And it's really such a beautiful commercial.

No, we were not in a throuple.

No, we were not in a throuple.

No. No, we were definitely dating, and then she would be dating other people, and I was dating a person at that time. So it's open. Yeah. Yeah. Open, I would say, yeah. Okay. Okay.

No. No, we were definitely dating, and then she would be dating other people, and I was dating a person at that time. So it's open. Yeah. Yeah. Open, I would say, yeah. Okay. Okay.

But we all did hang out together. And I think that freaked people out that it wasn't like, oh, you brought around this person, this other person you're doing. No, we're all hanging out together in the studio together, doing whatever together. And I think that made people go, oh. That's like a mini open.

But we all did hang out together. And I think that freaked people out that it wasn't like, oh, you brought around this person, this other person you're doing. No, we're all hanging out together in the studio together, doing whatever together. And I think that made people go, oh. That's like a mini open.

The guy that I was dating at that time, then he like ran with it and wanted to be like, he like publicly ran with it and wanted to, oh, I got these two baddies, sir.

The guy that I was dating at that time, then he like ran with it and wanted to be like, he like publicly ran with it and wanted to, oh, I got these two baddies, sir.

No. Yeah. She had different. Yeah. I was, I had mostly dated one, just one person, but I think she dated another girl and then men. Yeah. I think everybody was having fun. You know, we were at a, we were at a having fun time. Hookup culture. In your, in your 18, 19 years, you know, when you're just experiencing everything and everything is alive and, and yeah. Ooh, glad I'm not back there again.

No. Yeah. She had different. Yeah. I was, I had mostly dated one, just one person, but I think she dated another girl and then men. Yeah. I think everybody was having fun. You know, we were at a, we were at a having fun time. Hookup culture. In your, in your 18, 19 years, you know, when you're just experiencing everything and everything is alive and, and yeah. Ooh, glad I'm not back there again.

We have not set a date. We are making our first baby, our movie baby. And yes, once we are done with that and through editing, So everything, because that's just not a moment you rush, you know, and it's not, it's not a moment to be, it's already going to be stressful. And I'm already quite by the book on things, being on time, doing things, being, you know. And so I will be a bridezilla.

We have not set a date. We are making our first baby, our movie baby. And yes, once we are done with that and through editing, So everything, because that's just not a moment you rush, you know, and it's not, it's not a moment to be, it's already going to be stressful. And I'm already quite by the book on things, being on time, doing things, being, you know. And so I will be a bridezilla.

I know myself and I will definitely be like, those flowers are not right. I swear to God.

I know myself and I will definitely be like, those flowers are not right. I swear to God.

Well, when, because we already have a wedding planner and whatnot and we have the venue. So I think when we had gone through that process and I saw Mark's guest list, it was, you know, he's quite a bit older than me. So he's made, he's had more time to make more friends.

Well, when, because we already have a wedding planner and whatnot and we have the venue. So I think when we had gone through that process and I saw Mark's guest list, it was, you know, he's quite a bit older than me. So he's made, he's had more time to make more friends.

He is 43. Well, how old are you? Yeah, 27. Oh, my God.

He is 43. Well, how old are you? Yeah, 27. Oh, my God.

Oh, yes?

Oh, yes?

Yeah, the unfortunate thing with the older movies is that even though the movie itself is remastered, their trailers aren't remastered. And so every time we're watching the trailer and I'll have Mark in my ear, but it's going to be much better than this, babe, because it's not going to be like this. You know, it's not. I'm like, okay, because I can barely see the screen at this point.

Yeah, the unfortunate thing with the older movies is that even though the movie itself is remastered, their trailers aren't remastered. And so every time we're watching the trailer and I'll have Mark in my ear, but it's going to be much better than this, babe, because it's not going to be like this. You know, it's not. I'm like, okay, because I can barely see the screen at this point.

And when I think about the stuff that I like, even in my own house or when it comes to building sets and how much that's in me. And I feel like it came from that moment being so wowed as I think I was 16.

And when I think about the stuff that I like, even in my own house or when it comes to building sets and how much that's in me. And I feel like it came from that moment being so wowed as I think I was 16.

It's so blurry and grainy.

It's so blurry and grainy.

Have you seen Mulholland Drive? No. You haven't seen it either? Oh, okay. Okay, okay. Yeah, that's a fun one, really. Takes you on a rollercoaster ride. You hated it. No, no, I love David Lynch. And actually, I love the same tones he loves. I love the same cameras, the dissolves. There's so much that I have already naturally so loved and seeing it in his work, I'm like, oh, wow.

Have you seen Mulholland Drive? No. You haven't seen it either? Oh, okay. Okay, okay. Yeah, that's a fun one, really. Takes you on a rollercoaster ride. You hated it. No, no, I love David Lynch. And actually, I love the same tones he loves. I love the same cameras, the dissolves. There's so much that I have already naturally so loved and seeing it in his work, I'm like, oh, wow.

Because I'm a big David Lynch fan. I love him. And R.I.P. So sad that he just passed away. Yeah.

Because I'm a big David Lynch fan. I love him. And R.I.P. So sad that he just passed away. Yeah.

I finally got him on The Real Housewives of Potomac.

I finally got him on The Real Housewives of Potomac.

We are, like, stuck on Salt Lake City.

We are, like, stuck on Salt Lake City.

Are you caught up? Yeah.

Are you caught up? Yeah.

What about the next reunion? I mean, the ladies are going at each other.

What about the next reunion? I mean, the ladies are going at each other.

Ooh, well, I'm loving the tequila company. We'll start with that. Not that I drink tequila, but get it, girl. And I think sometimes Lisa doesn't have, well, we all know she doesn't like to say sorry. Ugh. And that just can. Yeah, I think that that just comes back and and bites her in in the Bronwyn situation.

Ooh, well, I'm loving the tequila company. We'll start with that. Not that I drink tequila, but get it, girl. And I think sometimes Lisa doesn't have, well, we all know she doesn't like to say sorry. Ugh. And that just can. Yeah, I think that that just comes back and and bites her in in the Bronwyn situation.

I can imagine that that's incredibly difficult what what they're going through her family with Gwen and my heart really goes out. And I think that any way to deal with that situation besides, I love you, I'm sorry, I'm here for you, I'm sorry, I love you, I'm sorry, I'm here for you. Any other wording besides that is crazy. I think it's just unhelpful.

I can imagine that that's incredibly difficult what what they're going through her family with Gwen and my heart really goes out. And I think that any way to deal with that situation besides, I love you, I'm sorry, I'm here for you, I'm sorry, I love you, I'm sorry, I'm here for you. Any other wording besides that is crazy. I think it's just unhelpful.

six or seven and I was just so amazed by the color and the sets and it all being matching yeah it's a very very beautiful commercial Target killed it on that one and did you enjoy it all the way through were there ever moments where you're just like I'm over this or is it something that you always just kind of No, not as a child. I think you're stoked. Everything is awesome.

six or seven and I was just so amazed by the color and the sets and it all being matching yeah it's a very very beautiful commercial Target killed it on that one and did you enjoy it all the way through were there ever moments where you're just like I'm over this or is it something that you always just kind of No, not as a child. I think you're stoked. Everything is awesome.

Even if you're trying to be helpful, it's not helpful. You cannot... hear these things because it's so it's it's such a painful sacred place to be commenting on.

Even if you're trying to be helpful, it's not helpful. You cannot... hear these things because it's so it's it's such a painful sacred place to be commenting on.

I'm sorry. Yeah, exactly.

I'm sorry. Yeah, exactly.

I love the way she speaks.

I love the way she speaks.

I love her accent. I think it's really funny. And yeah.

I love her accent. I think it's really funny. And yeah.

I like that sometimes she's just like, I am done with this.

I like that sometimes she's just like, I am done with this.

I've gotten... I've become very fond of Mary. I wasn't so sure. And with her opening up and whatnot, I very much appreciated that as a viewer.

I've gotten... I've become very fond of Mary. I wasn't so sure. And with her opening up and whatnot, I very much appreciated that as a viewer.

Love Angie Kay.

Love Angie Kay.

yeah thing I've ever heard in my life yeah they were going yeah I mean when you go back and forth with somebody I mean I really do feel that the other woman in my personal opinion did start it she 100% did she showed up 100% so it's like oh don't dish it out if you can't take it and Brittany will not admit to anything she will not like if she would just be like yeah I did say that my bad

yeah thing I've ever heard in my life yeah they were going yeah I mean when you go back and forth with somebody I mean I really do feel that the other woman in my personal opinion did start it she 100% did she showed up 100% so it's like oh don't dish it out if you can't take it and Brittany will not admit to anything she will not like if she would just be like yeah I did say that my bad

Thank you, Bronwyn, for saying what happened there.

Thank you, Bronwyn, for saying what happened there.

Let's see. I'm not sure we really got to know Brittany so much this season. I think we got to know more about her relationship.

Let's see. I'm not sure we really got to know Brittany so much this season. I think we got to know more about her relationship.

You think she keeps the drama? Really?

You think she keeps the drama? Really?

I would be sad, too. I want them to make her, like, so that we can actually get to know her.

I would be sad, too. I want them to make her, like, so that we can actually get to know her.

Because we're not getting to get to know her.

Because we're not getting to get to know her.

we had sex when they did the mean text okay but how about Lisa and Meredith both didn't have to do any mean text they both coincidentally left the table right before they had to Lisa pretended lied about her worst thing ever and then Meredith being the lawyer that she is like faked got up and stormed off like none of this is okay but what about when Brittany was like okay I have one yeah

we had sex when they did the mean text okay but how about Lisa and Meredith both didn't have to do any mean text they both coincidentally left the table right before they had to Lisa pretended lied about her worst thing ever and then Meredith being the lawyer that she is like faked got up and stormed off like none of this is okay but what about when Brittany was like okay I have one yeah

And I love Mary and Angie Kay's relationship that they have developed. I think that that is like a very sacred. And I feel like a lot of pain from Mary's past. And to see her immediately go at Angie for feeling like for a moment that this wasn't going to be the friendship she thought. And I love that they two did work through it and immediately, you know, the hand-holding and the tears.

And I love Mary and Angie Kay's relationship that they have developed. I think that that is like a very sacred. And I feel like a lot of pain from Mary's past. And to see her immediately go at Angie for feeling like for a moment that this wasn't going to be the friendship she thought. And I love that they two did work through it and immediately, you know, the hand-holding and the tears.

You can't, you can be wrong. We're all wrong. We're all human. We all make mistakes. You can say something you shouldn't have said, done something you shouldn't have done. Like it is literally just us. It's what we're, it's, it's our makeup, you know, it's inherent. So you can say sorry and be done with it. Yeah.

You can't, you can be wrong. We're all wrong. We're all human. We all make mistakes. You can say something you shouldn't have said, done something you shouldn't have done. Like it is literally just us. It's what we're, it's, it's our makeup, you know, it's inherent. So you can say sorry and be done with it. Yeah.

And yeah, I think when you start to get a little bit older and you're tired, then you're like, oh man, this is a long day.

And yeah, I think when you start to get a little bit older and you're tired, then you're like, oh man, this is a long day.

You have to watch Potomac. You need to watch Potomac.

You have to watch Potomac. You need to watch Potomac.

Is it almost over? Where are we at?

Is it almost over? Where are we at?

But wait, are you saying it's done as in they've canceled the show?

But wait, are you saying it's done as in they've canceled the show?

Oh, thank God. Have they done Reunion? You're one of many people. I'm on season seven or eight, so I only have that one nine, and then I'm done. I was about to be so upset if you told me that it was actually done done.

Oh, thank God. Have they done Reunion? You're one of many people. I'm on season seven or eight, so I only have that one nine, and then I'm done. I was about to be so upset if you told me that it was actually done done.

And why haven't you done it yet?

And why haven't you done it yet?

Dive, what? What? Okay, so they take real relationships that they've been in. Everybody's at some type of crossroads. And these people are together a long time. And they come to this island and they separate them in a house of singles. And then each week at a luxurious bonfire in the middle of the woods,

Dive, what? What? Okay, so they take real relationships that they've been in. Everybody's at some type of crossroads. And these people are together a long time. And they come to this island and they separate them in a house of singles. And then each week at a luxurious bonfire in the middle of the woods,

They do a like 30 seconds that you can see your other partner, what he's or she is doing on that part of the island. You get 30 seconds and they tell you, we're not explaining before this clip or after. It's crazy. One person, he had a full on threesome. I think it's in the first season and he cheated on her with a full on threesome in the shower. She had to watch it.

They do a like 30 seconds that you can see your other partner, what he's or she is doing on that part of the island. You get 30 seconds and they tell you, we're not explaining before this clip or after. It's crazy. One person, he had a full on threesome. I think it's in the first season and he cheated on her with a full on threesome in the shower. She had to watch it.

I was like, this is mental warfare. Like this is so upsetting that- you actually had to physically watch somebody you've been with nine years do that to you. I was like, this is horrible and I'm hooked. Then give me more.

I was like, this is mental warfare. Like this is so upsetting that- you actually had to physically watch somebody you've been with nine years do that to you. I was like, this is horrible and I'm hooked. Then give me more.

Really? Yeah, yeah. He's so funny.

Really? Yeah, yeah. He's so funny.

He has a fame, like, he sounds like somebody, it's like Mark Wahlberg. He's Mark Wahlberg. No, I think it actually is Mark Wahlberg.

He has a fame, like, he sounds like somebody, it's like Mark Wahlberg. He's Mark Wahlberg. No, I think it actually is Mark Wahlberg.

And every time I see it, Mark Wahlberg. It's Mark Wahlberg, but not Mark.

And every time I see it, Mark Wahlberg. It's Mark Wahlberg, but not Mark.

It's Mark Wahlberg.

It's Mark Wahlberg.

No, I didn't have friends. I was not a... Yeah, no. I was also bullied in school when I was there. So they took me out and they took me to Sylvan Learning Center. Then I was diagnosed with dyslexia. And yeah, I was... Nick's also dyslexic, so safe space.

No, I didn't have friends. I was not a... Yeah, no. I was also bullied in school when I was there. So they took me out and they took me to Sylvan Learning Center. Then I was diagnosed with dyslexia. And yeah, I was... Nick's also dyslexic, so safe space.

No, no, it is Frisky. You want to see Frisky? Oh my God, have you seen Baddies? No. Baddies, Baddies, Baddies Shot O'Clock. Come on, guys, Baddies Shot O'Clock.

No, no, it is Frisky. You want to see Frisky? Oh my God, have you seen Baddies? No. Baddies, Baddies, Baddies Shot O'Clock. Come on, guys, Baddies Shot O'Clock.

Yes, I know. I think we should start a group text with us four, with Mark as well, and that we should constantly be putting just, like the only thing that the group text is for is just movies and TV recommendations.

Yes, I know. I think we should start a group text with us four, with Mark as well, and that we should constantly be putting just, like the only thing that the group text is for is just movies and TV recommendations.

I've gotten him into Potomac. Okay. He didn't like the other ones. In fact, I think they a little bit drove him crazy and he would sit through two. But once you get to six in a night, I think that he his brain, it can it can no longer. The baddies, though, he will watch some episodes. It's a lot of yelling. Is it like Bad Girls Club?

I've gotten him into Potomac. Okay. He didn't like the other ones. In fact, I think they a little bit drove him crazy and he would sit through two. But once you get to six in a night, I think that he his brain, it can it can no longer. The baddies, though, he will watch some episodes. It's a lot of yelling. Is it like Bad Girls Club?

Natalie Nunn took the idea of Bad Girls Club and made her own baddies with Zeus Network, Lemmy Plummer. And it's good for him making this network pop off. It's just like, it's so hard to do this in general. And he did it. So good for you. Good for everybody that was involved. I think Ray J, actually King Bach, who I'm friends with, was also involved in the earlier part of Zeus.

Natalie Nunn took the idea of Bad Girls Club and made her own baddies with Zeus Network, Lemmy Plummer. And it's good for him making this network pop off. It's just like, it's so hard to do this in general. And he did it. So good for you. Good for everybody that was involved. I think Ray J, actually King Bach, who I'm friends with, was also involved in the earlier part of Zeus.

And yeah, she went and she... She's a CEO. She's a queen. No, seriously. She is actually a full-on baddie. I love Tinker Bella. When you do watch it, if you go to the Caribbean season, she's introduced. And she's a baddie. I mean, everybody, they are standing on business. And, you know, and I love that term. I, I love that term.

And yeah, she went and she... She's a CEO. She's a queen. No, seriously. She is actually a full-on baddie. I love Tinker Bella. When you do watch it, if you go to the Caribbean season, she's introduced. And she's a baddie. I mean, everybody, they are standing on business. And, you know, and I love that term. I, I love that term.

Like, it's kind of, I think, another way, in my opinion, of saying, like, I'm a man of my word. I don't personally love that term.

Like, it's kind of, I think, another way, in my opinion, of saying, like, I'm a man of my word. I don't personally love that term.

Um, so I love standing on business. Like if you mean what you say and stand on it, stick to it, like to not be flip flopping over and around like a fucking fish. It's not cool. Um, so yeah, I dig that. That's my real obsession. And yesterday I waited up all night and they put the episode on and then you clicked it and the episode was gone. And I stalked every Instagram.

Um, so I love standing on business. Like if you mean what you say and stand on it, stick to it, like to not be flip flopping over and around like a fucking fish. It's not cool. Um, so yeah, I dig that. That's my real obsession. And yesterday I waited up all night and they put the episode on and then you clicked it and the episode was gone. And I stalked every Instagram.

I stalked everybody's Instagram to see. And everybody was also losing their minds. All the comments were losing their minds. Where is the new episode? What did you do? How could you do this? I checked today and it's back.

I stalked everybody's Instagram to see. And everybody was also losing their minds. All the comments were losing their minds. Where is the new episode? What did you do? How could you do this? I checked today and it's back.

Okay, perfect. Yes, yes.

Okay, perfect. Yes, yes.

You did crush it. Are you kidding? Look at that chunky bad boy.

You did crush it. Are you kidding? Look at that chunky bad boy.

That's beautiful. Thank you so much. The original one that he got me, I loved it. But he, I guess, knows me so well that somewhere deep, deep, deep, deep down in there, some part of me was like, this isn't for me.

That's beautiful. Thank you so much. The original one that he got me, I loved it. But he, I guess, knows me so well that somewhere deep, deep, deep, deep down in there, some part of me was like, this isn't for me.

but i loved it and he was like no we're gonna change it and i was like no don't change it it's the one you picked like what and he was like no no i know you don't like it and i was like i'm telling you i love it baby he's like i know i saw your face i saw it in your eyes and we're changing it and then the next one wasn't right as well so he just kind of kept having me try rings on for like three weeks um and uh and yeah then we got this one what was your face when you saw that one

but i loved it and he was like no we're gonna change it and i was like no don't change it it's the one you picked like what and he was like no no i know you don't like it and i was like i'm telling you i love it baby he's like i know i saw your face i saw it in your eyes and we're changing it and then the next one wasn't right as well so he just kind of kept having me try rings on for like three weeks um and uh and yeah then we got this one what was your face when you saw that one

Yeah, well, it was a version of this, but all the way to the finger. And I love Tiffany's martini glass. I think that's super beautiful. And I wanted to double Tiffany's martini glass. So this is a double martini glass that sits on, that the stone sits on. So that's why it's like so high above. I love seeing that.

Yeah, well, it was a version of this, but all the way to the finger. And I love Tiffany's martini glass. I think that's super beautiful. And I wanted to double Tiffany's martini glass. So this is a double martini glass that sits on, that the stone sits on. So that's why it's like so high above. I love seeing that.

space yeah it's which is so cool it's such a cool design right hey i can like see you through it through it um but um you know it gets a lot more dirty because you have so much space so oils like lotions and stuff yeah i never take it off um so like i never take it off only maybe like i'm playing a role obviously but you sleep in it oh you shower in it oh Oh yeah.

space yeah it's which is so cool it's such a cool design right hey i can like see you through it through it um but um you know it gets a lot more dirty because you have so much space so oils like lotions and stuff yeah i never take it off um so like i never take it off only maybe like i'm playing a role obviously but you sleep in it oh you shower in it oh Oh yeah.

Um, and then I popped out of stone and now because, um, which I'm getting fixed and when I'm showering, I'm like ripping my face up because it's like rough, but I refuse still to take it off. I'm that kind of girl. Um, who is just like, even when you know you could make something easier on yourself, but you're too lazy to change it. Like you're like, no, I'm still going to do this. That's me.

Um, and then I popped out of stone and now because, um, which I'm getting fixed and when I'm showering, I'm like ripping my face up because it's like rough, but I refuse still to take it off. I'm that kind of girl. Um, who is just like, even when you know you could make something easier on yourself, but you're too lazy to change it. Like you're like, no, I'm still going to do this. That's me.

Hopefully happiness. Let's start with that. Always happiness and getting closer, really learning more about each other and whatnot and each other's families. I'm a very family orientated person, so it's very important to me and definitely win the time as well that we might have a family. I think it's really important to get that a bit more of a stable ground, you could say.

Hopefully happiness. Let's start with that. Always happiness and getting closer, really learning more about each other and whatnot and each other's families. I'm a very family orientated person, so it's very important to me and definitely win the time as well that we might have a family. I think it's really important to get that a bit more of a stable ground, you could say.

And yeah, we're doing our first movie together. We've raised all the finance together and we've really, I would say like usually I think a huge testament is working together. I would like to, as I said, my father say a Thorne Empire one day. And if I'm going to have a partner and especially for life, I want a partner that I can really work with.

And yeah, we're doing our first movie together. We've raised all the finance together and we've really, I would say like usually I think a huge testament is working together. I would like to, as I said, my father say a Thorne Empire one day. And if I'm going to have a partner and especially for life, I want a partner that I can really work with.

because I love working and it's one of the things that make me the literal happiness in life. And so getting through this process with them and never not once, knock on wood, wanting to rip each other's hair out, I think has been such a beautiful experience. There's been so many times where in the movie industry and

because I love working and it's one of the things that make me the literal happiness in life. And so getting through this process with them and never not once, knock on wood, wanting to rip each other's hair out, I think has been such a beautiful experience. There's been so many times where in the movie industry and

sign a contract and then this and that that and then oh that falls through and this thing and this thing and you're you're on this emotional roller coaster and i would say over the last year of making this movie and we shoot it coming up so i'm talking about making it in the other sense of getting it together um there's been so many tears there's been a lot of moments where i just was like um

sign a contract and then this and that that and then oh that falls through and this thing and this thing and you're you're on this emotional roller coaster and i would say over the last year of making this movie and we shoot it coming up so i'm talking about making it in the other sense of getting it together um there's been so many tears there's been a lot of moments where i just was like um

You know, why, why, why, why? And this is so important to me and it's become so important to him. And that's that's so beautiful that he's like taking that on with me because he didn't have to. You know, he he's a producer. Yes. But, you know, this is like a very specific thing. And I think it's just so endearing and it brought us really close.

You know, why, why, why, why? And this is so important to me and it's become so important to him. And that's that's so beautiful that he's like taking that on with me because he didn't have to. You know, he he's a producer. Yes. But, you know, this is like a very specific thing. And I think it's just so endearing and it brought us really close.

Yeah, I do feel very lucky as well. I can't really imagine it any other way except for in the past when it hasn't gone well. You know what it's like when it doesn't go well. Yeah. Yeah. And so that's that's really beautiful that you guys also get to do that together because it really man talk about going from having an OK day to an amazing day.

Yeah, I do feel very lucky as well. I can't really imagine it any other way except for in the past when it hasn't gone well. You know what it's like when it doesn't go well. Yeah. Yeah. And so that's that's really beautiful that you guys also get to do that together because it really man talk about going from having an OK day to an amazing day.

And even when you're having a really shitty day, how important it is that your partner is there and can. You know, you're not always able to give 50-50 in a relationship and sometimes you can only give 15 and the other person has to make up the rest. And I think that that's so beautiful when that does happen. And I feel like it happens a lot.

And even when you're having a really shitty day, how important it is that your partner is there and can. You know, you're not always able to give 50-50 in a relationship and sometimes you can only give 15 and the other person has to make up the rest. And I think that that's so beautiful when that does happen. And I feel like it happens a lot.

And especially when working, when you're so stressed out and whatnot. And so it's really great that you guys have each other.

And especially when working, when you're so stressed out and whatnot. And so it's really great that you guys have each other.

um it's good yeah yeah well i think we mostly text on birthdays and things like that um when something good happens in the other person's life um we'll both shoot each other a text um i think the last time i saw her was her birthday party but it's lovely yeah yeah we live in different places too yeah i mean i think i mean my you know best friend is in georgia so it's like we don't but i think just being able to like keep it's like you don't have to talk every day

um it's good yeah yeah well i think we mostly text on birthdays and things like that um when something good happens in the other person's life um we'll both shoot each other a text um i think the last time i saw her was her birthday party but it's lovely yeah yeah we live in different places too yeah i mean i think i mean my you know best friend is in georgia so it's like we don't but i think just being able to like keep it's like you don't have to talk every day

There was no time has passed.

There was no time has passed.

This has been lovely. Lovely. Yeah, you guys are really, really amazing. I know that we did a little something before, but you are just so incredible.

This has been lovely. Lovely. Yeah, you guys are really, really amazing. I know that we did a little something before, but you are just so incredible.

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That's always when, when the tears come on, it's always a, Oh, here we go. Kind of feeling.

That's always when, when the tears come on, it's always a, Oh, here we go. Kind of feeling.

I still have a huge fear of reading out loud in front of people. And when I was doing my book tour and whatnot, it was...

I still have a huge fear of reading out loud in front of people. And when I was doing my book tour and whatnot, it was...

it was like no you were you were doing this like this is something that in in my book there is like a lot of references to dyslexia and whatnot and i spell things wrong and then i rewrite it on the typewriter and rewrite it again and keep spelling it wrong um and it was like a nice way to like i'm dyslexic everybody made me feel a lot better about myself

it was like no you were you were doing this like this is something that in in my book there is like a lot of references to dyslexia and whatnot and i spell things wrong and then i rewrite it on the typewriter and rewrite it again and keep spelling it wrong um and it was like a nice way to like i'm dyslexic everybody made me feel a lot better about myself

I'm sure they've forgotten all about their horrible ways. Oh my God, girl. How are you?

I'm sure they've forgotten all about their horrible ways. Oh my God, girl. How are you?

No, actually, one of my biggest bullies was my teacher. She really went out of her way to...

No, actually, one of my biggest bullies was my teacher. She really went out of her way to...

bully me and in front of classmates make me get up and read knowing i couldn't make me stay there um at one point she even threw away um a christmas present that's like you know when you get those things and it has the mug and has the little cocoa and stuff um and so our parents like you know got all the teachers like different things and i saw it in the trash when i came back

bully me and in front of classmates make me get up and read knowing i couldn't make me stay there um at one point she even threw away um a christmas present that's like you know when you get those things and it has the mug and has the little cocoa and stuff um and so our parents like you know got all the teachers like different things and i saw it in the trash when i came back

From recess and I'll never forget seeing it just physically in the trash and like not being able to really comprehend that as a child of like, why is it in there? And I just didn't really understand. And when I told my mom when I had gotten home, she was like, she did what? She was so upset.

From recess and I'll never forget seeing it just physically in the trash and like not being able to really comprehend that as a child of like, why is it in there? And I just didn't really understand. And when I told my mom when I had gotten home, she was like, she did what? She was so upset.

She even went as far as to fake my testing to get into the next grade because she wanted to keep me and humiliate me.

She even went as far as to fake my testing to get into the next grade because she wanted to keep me and humiliate me.

Oh, yeah. My principal, who had a really, I think, a fond liking to me because I was bullied and sometimes I would have to sit in her room and do things instead of being with the rest of the class doing things like testing and whatever. So when my mom got back those results and stuff and she took it to the principal and was like, look at this handwriting stuff does not match.

Oh, yeah. My principal, who had a really, I think, a fond liking to me because I was bullied and sometimes I would have to sit in her room and do things instead of being with the rest of the class doing things like testing and whatever. So when my mom got back those results and stuff and she took it to the principal and was like, look at this handwriting stuff does not match.

It literally doesn't match. And the principal had me retake the test and I passed with flying colors. This whole bag. So then she was put on leave after that. How old were you when this happened? I was in second grade going to third.

It literally doesn't match. And the principal had me retake the test and I passed with flying colors. This whole bag. So then she was put on leave after that. How old were you when this happened? I was in second grade going to third.

Literally. And I understand that I was often not in school a lot with modeling so young. And because I spoke Spanish and that's my first language and with the reading, I don't know what about me made her like hate me or if she just thought it was so funny when I was reading to be crying in front of everybody and to keep making me do it. Like, I don't know where in her.

Literally. And I understand that I was often not in school a lot with modeling so young. And because I spoke Spanish and that's my first language and with the reading, I don't know what about me made her like hate me or if she just thought it was so funny when I was reading to be crying in front of everybody and to keep making me do it. Like, I don't know where in her.

I don't know where anybody gets joy out of a child crying and and being, you know, a stepping stone in that in any sort of way. I'm like, why? Why? But I have seen comments before, like, oh, I was friends with her in school. And I was like, liar, liar, liar. I have no friends.

I don't know where anybody gets joy out of a child crying and and being, you know, a stepping stone in that in any sort of way. I'm like, why? Why? But I have seen comments before, like, oh, I was friends with her in school. And I was like, liar, liar, liar. I have no friends.

We're connected. Yeah. Oh, trauma bonding. Isn't it good? Yeah.

We're connected. Yeah. Oh, trauma bonding. Isn't it good? Yeah.

Let's see, a month ago, maybe? Yesterday? Yeah, I'm not sure that some of those feelings will ever go away or that I will ever really feel like I made it. I'm not sure that my want for creative more will ever allow me to feel that way. Yeah, I think I'll always still have that kind of feeling inside of me. I'm not sure when...

Let's see, a month ago, maybe? Yesterday? Yeah, I'm not sure that some of those feelings will ever go away or that I will ever really feel like I made it. I'm not sure that my want for creative more will ever allow me to feel that way. Yeah, I think I'll always still have that kind of feeling inside of me. I'm not sure when...

I don't want you to feel like that forever. Yeah. Yeah. I would like to not feel like that forever as well. And I think, you know, at some point probably will not when when something is is so incredible and I really feel like I've done something really great, then. then maybe I'll not have that feeling a little bit.

I don't want you to feel like that forever. Yeah. Yeah. I would like to not feel like that forever as well. And I think, you know, at some point probably will not when when something is is so incredible and I really feel like I've done something really great, then. then maybe I'll not have that feeling a little bit.

But yeah, I think I always use all those feelings to drive me or else they'll just sit there getting negative and stirred. And yeah, it's always best to do something with them, put it into something.

But yeah, I think I always use all those feelings to drive me or else they'll just sit there getting negative and stirred. And yeah, it's always best to do something with them, put it into something.

I would say probably reading my book out loud at Carnegie Hall. That was a nice one. It was three separate reasons to be proud. One, my dad always loved Carnegie Hall. And so to get there and him not be here to see it was like a And I got to do my poetry about him as well.

I would say probably reading my book out loud at Carnegie Hall. That was a nice one. It was three separate reasons to be proud. One, my dad always loved Carnegie Hall. And so to get there and him not be here to see it was like a And I got to do my poetry about him as well.

And yeah, and I think the reading out loud and having a book that's solely based on mental health and being a bit of a mess and dealing with those feelings on the inside and being able to do that, all three of those things was like such a, yeah, I don't think I'll ever forget that feeling.

yeah i do remember that the person i was dating though at the time decided to pick a fight with me the whole night okay and i was so upset and i ordered like uber eats um and i'll never forget that i actually like looked at the street that they were picking up the food at for some reason and it was delancey street which is my dad's name so i was like Yes. And also, F you, boyfriend.

You can go suck it. Yeah. So it was nice. It was like my dad's like, don't let anybody dim your shine. You got it.

Because I read the whole, I was so afraid to mess up one word that I read the entire book like this, all like this and the whole entire time. And then I was done.

I feel like I have to get through as fast as possible. I will not mess up. I will not mess up.

A motorcycle accident.

Yes. He had nitrous put on his Ducati, which, as you know, is a great idea for anybody. And he had problems with his bike turning off.

and he took it back to the shop and i remember my mom and dad arguing about this bike in general my mom always saying like you're gonna kill yourself one day using that bike like she was so upset when he got it and it was turning off so they put it back in the shop and the shop let it out earlier than it was supposed to and that first time he rode it um it just stopped and he spun out

And then they airlifted him. And by the time they got him on the table, per se, because he had so many broken bones, his heart gave out on him and then he had a heart attack. So technically he died of a heart attack, but it was because of too much pressure. Yeah. So that was shitty. And then our grandma died like two months later. And that was like, you know, my mom's mom.

That's like, you know, the one who really raised her. And that just, oof, that was a double, a double whammy for the family for sure.

oh well we just heard we were supposed to go to the beach that morning my dad was also supposed to come up in the next few days finally to LA and kind of close out his house there and actually move here with us so that was also weird timing and And I remember in my bunk bed hearing my mother screams, screams, screams, screams.

And I walked out and she was against the wall and she fell to the floor and she's on the phone and she's just screaming bloody screams. murder, like an animal being slaughtered is what it sounded like. I'll never forget those screams. And she didn't believe them as well. She was like, you're lying to me because his phone was off and they turned it on and all the text messages come through.

So she's like, I just got texts from him like literally 15 minutes ago. So it has to be wrong. And that also like messed with her brain. And then it took hours, you know, for then somebody to come to the door. So in that whole time she was in complete disbelief. It's just not possible. He's just texted me. You have it wrong. And then when the police came to the door,

Yeah, then that was another... Yeah.

Yeah, I think my mom knew in her soul, though, with those blood-curdling screams, it was like her heart had been ripped out, and we didn't have enough money to go down to see him, to... Tremate him, essentially, and whatnot. So that was also a dark time as well, because we couldn't be there. We were actually given to our friends, the Webbers, funny enough, who ended up on The Bachelor. Yeah.

Yeah. What? Yeah, Peter Weber. Yeah, Jack and Peter. And they became like our solace for that like week while my mom went down and dealt with the, you know, passing stuff. And then she came down and the house was broken into. Everything was gone, stolen. Like, oh, my mom just got it again and again and again. And then...

Yeah, the only way that we even were able to, I think, fully understands when she came back, she had photos of him on the metal slab. And she showed us those photos on the BlackBerry. Wow. Yeah, never forget them photos either.

And I remember we were arguing, my siblings and I were arguing, and my mom, she was just like... you want something to argue about? Look at this. And it was so much pain in that time. Like, do you feel like your mom had like anyone she could go to? It was just y'all. No one. Yeah. Um, and I think my mom has always felt that way in her life.

You know, we don't have much family and my father's side is Jehovah witness and they like disowned him. Um, So they wouldn't even come to the cremation. And I know that hurt my mom a lot, not being able to have any side of his family.

Yeah.

No. No, no. We hadn't seen him in months at that point. Yeah. He was just coming back. So that was, yeah.

Yes. Thankfully, yes, the house is there. I was out of town as well, filming, and my sister and whatnot had to evacuate, and it was so scary being on FaceTime and whatnot with her dealing with that situation. Yeah.

yeah i don't know that we ever really fully you know will totally heal but we try to um honor his memory you know on his birthday we'll write things on a balloon and then send them up and

think we all try in our own little ways i made my jewelry because he always wanted a thorn empire and that was and he never got to see that or us do any of that so that's why i call it thorn dynasty because hopefully one day he'll you know get to see that and be like yeah like you better get it um so yeah it's all like designed after florida and um family and my dad thank you

So I feel like he is.

Yeah, exactly. It's so special. And keep that for generations to come. When I have children and whatnot, obviously they'll never get to meet their grandpa. So I think...

having that i got a fucking painting of of a family photo of us hanging like right when you walk into my house and it's fucking big and these amazing artists did it for me and like they recaptured his smile so much so i'm definitely like not letting him die again in any sort of way

I feel like I fucked up my makeup. You did it. You're beautiful. But I used a primer, so.

That's a great question. I think I have... been an open book since i was 18 for so long and it felt really mean and kind of evil when people would use those things against me and blame me for them i've you know uh even when i had a face full of acne and i wouldn't wear makeup and i was popping it on snapchat and

And, you know, kind of going through the whole process and really trying to like be open about who I was. It was always like, oh, she has to be on heroin because look at her skin. It's so bad. Like, will she, you know, wash her face? She should try soap kind of things and like actual like articles writing that. not even just comments, like articles, writing that kind of language.

And when I, you know, came out about being molested growing up, I think that was another thing that really hurt when people used it against me to almost speak badly on my character of who I am now as a put out my own nudes because I was being fucking threatened.

And then, you know, will be Goldberg and said that I had essentially kind of deserved it in some way because I had sent the photo in the first place that I had even taken the photo.

Yeah. And I obviously got very upset because that was such a hard thing for me to do. And I remember I was on my book tour and I was about to do an interview and I was reading those texts and I literally asked my manager, I was like, what the fuck do I do here? And I was like, at this point, it's just so embarrassing. He's going to take it from me.

He's going to take these parts of my body and somebody's already done this once to me. So I don't want them to do that again. Yeah. And so then it was like, well, if I do it, then it's my decision and it's not yours, even though it kind of still is your decision because I'm only doing it because of you, bitch. And so but at least it's mine. It's my stamp on it.

And people saying that I like was faking that to put it to head to like get attention that I just wanted to like put out my body in that way and and do this and fake this thing. And yeah. that fucking hurt again. I was just like, like, these are really personal, seriously, deeply rooted like issues and things I've gone through and to have it thrown up in your face so much of like, you deserve it.

And this is what you are. And you're that kind of woman. That's what you deserve. All of this was so hard at like fucking 2019 to like mentally go through. And I think some people think I'm like still the old me, like the crazy rebellious Bella. And you're like, Are you not fucking, like, are you fucking, what is happening here? Do you not see what I was going through at those times?

What other way would any normal person react? Like, I'm still a teenager in some ways. And it was just really... yeah, shitty. And so I felt like I could not be honest anymore. Why would I be honest with you when all you do is throw it back in my face and blame me for it and call me disgusting for it? Thank God I also got to work with the FBI and put this son of a bitch away. And he did go away.

Yes. Yeah, I did quite a few things before that. I was on Big Love on HBO and quite a few other shows, some movies, but nothing comedy. So that was my first comedy. I had wondered growing up in my life if I would ever do comedy, if I was even funny in any sort of way. Well, you crushed comedy.

And now he's sitting in there for like eight years. And he did it to all these other people as well. So When the FBI saw that post, they immediately reached out and was like, this is the same exact language. We know this guy has done it before and we have these other things and worked with me to put him away. I had to write the statements as well for the judge.

And I had to go through that process again to write those statements. And in my heart, when they asked me to write it, I was like, Is this going to come out? And they were like, well, what do you mean? I was like, what if people post this statement? Like, again, they're going to take my words and how I feel and what this man took from me.

And they're going to they're going to like fiend off of that. And that's fucking disgusting. So that was like so scary. And I just I think I just decided, no, I'm not doing this anymore. I'm not giving y'all nothing. When you act like that, why? Should I? And yeah, so I think I was just like, nope. And now I don't want to not be myself because that's only doing myself a disservice.

And then everything that I go against, they've won. So it's like, either way, I feel like sometimes I'm in a Lose, lose, battle. I'm sure this interview will be even thrown up in my face. Like, oh, well, she and this and oh, crocodile tears or oh, she deserved it. Oh, she's too sexual. Look at her. Like, you know, just it's like it's just so shitty to hear every day all the time, I think.

So I've been like, I'll just not speak. But I don't think it's fair to teach people not to speak because you're afraid of speaking and getting ridiculed. That doesn't seem like a win.

Yes, I'm about to go direct a movie that I wrote that's based on a true story. It's so important. I've put, you know, blood, sweat and tears and so has everybody else. And that I'm I think is like one of the things that I'll first really be so happy about it. On the other side, man, I just decided to escape social media on the Instagrams and the Twitters. I was like, fuck all these little tweets.

At some point, you can't read your own shit because you're like, oh, I'm going to see one thing. Instead of focusing on all the amazing comments, you're going to focus on this one thing. If they really poked you somewhere where you were sensitive, boom, they've got you for the rest of the day. Some Somebody that I don't even know is offending me. The audacity is how I feel.

So I liked when Instagram was when it first started and you would post a photo of your foot and like your random food and like weird selfie. And it became this, my resume, my resume, my resume. Here's how, whatever you think of me, here it is right here. What do you think of me? Judge me now and move on to the next person to judge them and then go... Same thing. Just keeps on going.

And I'm just so over it. I'm quirky. I'm ridiculous. I think I also stopped being myself in interviews and in social media as well. I'm quite a quirky person. I do a lot of different voices. I like hop in and out. I'm very sarcastic. And I think a part of me kind of like that part of me kind of died. And people were wondering, like, where is that part? Is that was that still you?

And I would always get judged for it. Like, oh, she crazy. like and that kind of stuff when you're just a silly person people like scrolling like this like oh She looks bad. Oh, oh, oh, I didn't like that. Like why'd you do that? Like that's not I don't care to engage with those people anymore because I'm so sick of Asking for you to like me so I'm so sick of that. I'm not gonna do it anymore and

An actual, like, what's it called? Oh, a hacker? A hacker. Yes, not a boyfriend. Oh, fuck.

Well, I had been modeling since I was born, since I was six weeks old, oddly enough.

Well, thank you so much for that. I was going to say the same to you for what happened to you guys and that you're being so brave and sharing it. And I think that that is going to help so many people, and especially in the political climate that we're in, it's so important to share your piece and your journey with it. And I think that that will be really...

No, actually, I was an ugly baby. My mom never forgets to remind me that I was a very ugly baby. She's like, I don't know how you booked these jobs, but you did. Yeah, I was born with the umbilical cord wrapped around my neck. So I was quite blue when I came out. Yeah. And they had to rush me away. And then hours later, they brought me back. And my mom was like, that one's not mine.

heartwarming for a lot of people that have been through it and will feel like, thank God.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

I think I'll next that question. Yeah. Yeah. There was a video sent from backstage. Yes, there was a video sent. Oh. Yes.

Interesting. Okay.

And the next question.

One of the things I love best is that we're always very, quite silly with one another and that we're always able to make kind of a dark joke out of a dark situation that we might be in in life, you know? And I think that we really connect in our humor and in our silliness. I also love the way that he takes care of me. I always feel very safe.

And that's a really hard thing, I think, for anybody to feel, especially women. It's very it's like everywhere you look, there's just been murder everywhere. everywhere. Not that your partner has to give that to you because that's a very hard thing to give. You can't just make somebody feel safe. It's not just about what you're doing and what you're saying.

It's about everything all at the same time. I don't think I've ever felt safe with anybody that I've been with, actually. I felt more times that I had to make them feel safe in some situations and that not great. So I, I, I really love that he's able to do that quite effortlessly with me.

And she kept telling them to look at her other previous children. And they were all very beautiful babies. My sister even won the beautiful baby award in the hospital. Who does that? I mean. Wow. Since you're this little. Just getting into shame real early. And I had all this like dark hair that later on fell out and became blonde. But she was definitely kept telling them that I was not the baby.

And again, it doesn't mean when you do it like that, you don't let it get out of hand for too long. And, you know, listen, more built up feelings and explode. Yeah, exactly.

and like every relationship you know we have our shit you know we work through shit did you see that um thing going around on instagram that's like you know you're in a really great relationship if you're able to fart in in front of your partner do you guys fart in front of each other nick definitely does i don't um i never would never somehow not allowed to fart for some reason she's lying i've never farted i've never admitted to farting he doesn't he never admits to it's always like what

We have one toilet that we both use when the other person's not in the room. I am quite bathroom shy and I put on the tap. Oh, yes. Or I mostly play music out of my phone. So I'll always bring my phone and I just start blasting rap music. And I think then he knows it's time.

You can just know subconsciously, but you don't need to go there.

So we think the Instagram study's wrong then? Is that what we're saying?

What do you mean not in front of each other? Like as in they have to leave the entirety of the bathroom if you are going to the bathroom?

Is that what they, is that what she means? I guess. I think so. I think so. Oh, come on. Every time? Yeah.

I was not the baby that came out. And they were like, no, this one is yours. She was like, no, not that one. Yeah.

That wasn't the go-to. I'm quite still scared when it comes to camping and whatnot to pee. I have this phobia that a spider or a snake will come up and hurt me down there and hurt me bad. No, that's a fear. And forever scar me for the rest of my life. That is for sure scary.

Yes, yes, I have done quite a bit of camping. Yeah, yeah.

So then what's the next step? After that step happens, what's the next step when you still have the shiwis?

But then like, oh, I guess the dirt's not technically near the, I just don't like dirt anywhere in any, you know, near any sort of circumstance.

Sand in the charcuterie is not cool. The charcuterie board. Yes, of course. Sand in the charcuterie. Not y'all.

No, I would not.

I did at one point, and now I think I've forgotten it. I know that one of them is a Taurus, and I was like, oh, that makes sense because my Libra-ness is a bit too chill for how I am personally.

Yes. Yeah. All the way through. There was a Target commercial as well. I did commercials as well and then did acting. And One really fond memory I have is this Target commercial and there was all these butterflies on set and they had such colorful sets and everything matched and it was monochromatic. And it's really such a beautiful commercial.

No, we were not in a throuple.

No. No, we were definitely dating, and then she would be dating other people, and I was dating a person at that time. So it's open. Yeah. Yeah. Open, I would say, yeah. Okay. Okay.

But we all did hang out together. And I think that freaked people out that it wasn't like, oh, you brought around this person, this other person you're doing. No, we're all hanging out together in the studio together, doing whatever together. And I think that made people go, oh. That's like a mini open.

The guy that I was dating at that time, then he like ran with it and wanted to be like, he like publicly ran with it and wanted to, oh, I got these two baddies, sir.

No. Yeah. She had different. Yeah. I was, I had mostly dated one, just one person, but I think she dated another girl and then men. Yeah. I think everybody was having fun. You know, we were at a, we were at a having fun time. Hookup culture. In your, in your 18, 19 years, you know, when you're just experiencing everything and everything is alive and, and yeah. Ooh, glad I'm not back there again.

We have not set a date. We are making our first baby, our movie baby. And yes, once we are done with that and through editing, So everything, because that's just not a moment you rush, you know, and it's not, it's not a moment to be, it's already going to be stressful. And I'm already quite by the book on things, being on time, doing things, being, you know. And so I will be a bridezilla.

I know myself and I will definitely be like, those flowers are not right. I swear to God.

Well, when, because we already have a wedding planner and whatnot and we have the venue. So I think when we had gone through that process and I saw Mark's guest list, it was, you know, he's quite a bit older than me. So he's made, he's had more time to make more friends.

He is 43. Well, how old are you? Yeah, 27. Oh, my God.

Oh, yes?

Yeah, the unfortunate thing with the older movies is that even though the movie itself is remastered, their trailers aren't remastered. And so every time we're watching the trailer and I'll have Mark in my ear, but it's going to be much better than this, babe, because it's not going to be like this. You know, it's not. I'm like, okay, because I can barely see the screen at this point.

And when I think about the stuff that I like, even in my own house or when it comes to building sets and how much that's in me. And I feel like it came from that moment being so wowed as I think I was 16.

It's so blurry and grainy.

Have you seen Mulholland Drive? No. You haven't seen it either? Oh, okay. Okay, okay. Yeah, that's a fun one, really. Takes you on a rollercoaster ride. You hated it. No, no, I love David Lynch. And actually, I love the same tones he loves. I love the same cameras, the dissolves. There's so much that I have already naturally so loved and seeing it in his work, I'm like, oh, wow.

Because I'm a big David Lynch fan. I love him. And R.I.P. So sad that he just passed away. Yeah.

I finally got him on The Real Housewives of Potomac.

We are, like, stuck on Salt Lake City.

Are you caught up? Yeah.

What about the next reunion? I mean, the ladies are going at each other.

Ooh, well, I'm loving the tequila company. We'll start with that. Not that I drink tequila, but get it, girl. And I think sometimes Lisa doesn't have, well, we all know she doesn't like to say sorry. Ugh. And that just can. Yeah, I think that that just comes back and and bites her in in the Bronwyn situation.

I can imagine that that's incredibly difficult what what they're going through her family with Gwen and my heart really goes out. And I think that any way to deal with that situation besides, I love you, I'm sorry, I'm here for you, I'm sorry, I love you, I'm sorry, I'm here for you. Any other wording besides that is crazy. I think it's just unhelpful.

six or seven and I was just so amazed by the color and the sets and it all being matching yeah it's a very very beautiful commercial Target killed it on that one and did you enjoy it all the way through were there ever moments where you're just like I'm over this or is it something that you always just kind of No, not as a child. I think you're stoked. Everything is awesome.

Even if you're trying to be helpful, it's not helpful. You cannot... hear these things because it's so it's it's such a painful sacred place to be commenting on.

I'm sorry. Yeah, exactly.

I love the way she speaks.

I love her accent. I think it's really funny. And yeah.

I like that sometimes she's just like, I am done with this.

I've gotten... I've become very fond of Mary. I wasn't so sure. And with her opening up and whatnot, I very much appreciated that as a viewer.

Love Angie Kay.

yeah thing I've ever heard in my life yeah they were going yeah I mean when you go back and forth with somebody I mean I really do feel that the other woman in my personal opinion did start it she 100% did she showed up 100% so it's like oh don't dish it out if you can't take it and Brittany will not admit to anything she will not like if she would just be like yeah I did say that my bad

Thank you, Bronwyn, for saying what happened there.

Let's see. I'm not sure we really got to know Brittany so much this season. I think we got to know more about her relationship.

You think she keeps the drama? Really?

I would be sad, too. I want them to make her, like, so that we can actually get to know her.

Because we're not getting to get to know her.

we had sex when they did the mean text okay but how about Lisa and Meredith both didn't have to do any mean text they both coincidentally left the table right before they had to Lisa pretended lied about her worst thing ever and then Meredith being the lawyer that she is like faked got up and stormed off like none of this is okay but what about when Brittany was like okay I have one yeah

And I love Mary and Angie Kay's relationship that they have developed. I think that that is like a very sacred. And I feel like a lot of pain from Mary's past. And to see her immediately go at Angie for feeling like for a moment that this wasn't going to be the friendship she thought. And I love that they two did work through it and immediately, you know, the hand-holding and the tears.

You can't, you can be wrong. We're all wrong. We're all human. We all make mistakes. You can say something you shouldn't have said, done something you shouldn't have done. Like it is literally just us. It's what we're, it's, it's our makeup, you know, it's inherent. So you can say sorry and be done with it. Yeah.

And yeah, I think when you start to get a little bit older and you're tired, then you're like, oh man, this is a long day.

You have to watch Potomac. You need to watch Potomac.

Is it almost over? Where are we at?

But wait, are you saying it's done as in they've canceled the show?

Oh, thank God. Have they done Reunion? You're one of many people. I'm on season seven or eight, so I only have that one nine, and then I'm done. I was about to be so upset if you told me that it was actually done done.

And why haven't you done it yet?

Dive, what? What? Okay, so they take real relationships that they've been in. Everybody's at some type of crossroads. And these people are together a long time. And they come to this island and they separate them in a house of singles. And then each week at a luxurious bonfire in the middle of the woods,

They do a like 30 seconds that you can see your other partner, what he's or she is doing on that part of the island. You get 30 seconds and they tell you, we're not explaining before this clip or after. It's crazy. One person, he had a full on threesome. I think it's in the first season and he cheated on her with a full on threesome in the shower. She had to watch it.

I was like, this is mental warfare. Like this is so upsetting that- you actually had to physically watch somebody you've been with nine years do that to you. I was like, this is horrible and I'm hooked. Then give me more.

Really? Yeah, yeah. He's so funny.

He has a fame, like, he sounds like somebody, it's like Mark Wahlberg. He's Mark Wahlberg. No, I think it actually is Mark Wahlberg.

And every time I see it, Mark Wahlberg. It's Mark Wahlberg, but not Mark.

It's Mark Wahlberg.

No, I didn't have friends. I was not a... Yeah, no. I was also bullied in school when I was there. So they took me out and they took me to Sylvan Learning Center. Then I was diagnosed with dyslexia. And yeah, I was... Nick's also dyslexic, so safe space.

No, no, it is Frisky. You want to see Frisky? Oh my God, have you seen Baddies? No. Baddies, Baddies, Baddies Shot O'Clock. Come on, guys, Baddies Shot O'Clock.

Yes, I know. I think we should start a group text with us four, with Mark as well, and that we should constantly be putting just, like the only thing that the group text is for is just movies and TV recommendations.

I've gotten him into Potomac. Okay. He didn't like the other ones. In fact, I think they a little bit drove him crazy and he would sit through two. But once you get to six in a night, I think that he his brain, it can it can no longer. The baddies, though, he will watch some episodes. It's a lot of yelling. Is it like Bad Girls Club?

Natalie Nunn took the idea of Bad Girls Club and made her own baddies with Zeus Network, Lemmy Plummer. And it's good for him making this network pop off. It's just like, it's so hard to do this in general. And he did it. So good for you. Good for everybody that was involved. I think Ray J, actually King Bach, who I'm friends with, was also involved in the earlier part of Zeus.

And yeah, she went and she... She's a CEO. She's a queen. No, seriously. She is actually a full-on baddie. I love Tinker Bella. When you do watch it, if you go to the Caribbean season, she's introduced. And she's a baddie. I mean, everybody, they are standing on business. And, you know, and I love that term. I, I love that term.

Like, it's kind of, I think, another way, in my opinion, of saying, like, I'm a man of my word. I don't personally love that term.

Um, so I love standing on business. Like if you mean what you say and stand on it, stick to it, like to not be flip flopping over and around like a fucking fish. It's not cool. Um, so yeah, I dig that. That's my real obsession. And yesterday I waited up all night and they put the episode on and then you clicked it and the episode was gone. And I stalked every Instagram.

I stalked everybody's Instagram to see. And everybody was also losing their minds. All the comments were losing their minds. Where is the new episode? What did you do? How could you do this? I checked today and it's back.

Okay, perfect. Yes, yes.

You did crush it. Are you kidding? Look at that chunky bad boy.

That's beautiful. Thank you so much. The original one that he got me, I loved it. But he, I guess, knows me so well that somewhere deep, deep, deep, deep down in there, some part of me was like, this isn't for me.

but i loved it and he was like no we're gonna change it and i was like no don't change it it's the one you picked like what and he was like no no i know you don't like it and i was like i'm telling you i love it baby he's like i know i saw your face i saw it in your eyes and we're changing it and then the next one wasn't right as well so he just kind of kept having me try rings on for like three weeks um and uh and yeah then we got this one what was your face when you saw that one

Yeah, well, it was a version of this, but all the way to the finger. And I love Tiffany's martini glass. I think that's super beautiful. And I wanted to double Tiffany's martini glass. So this is a double martini glass that sits on, that the stone sits on. So that's why it's like so high above. I love seeing that.

space yeah it's which is so cool it's such a cool design right hey i can like see you through it through it um but um you know it gets a lot more dirty because you have so much space so oils like lotions and stuff yeah i never take it off um so like i never take it off only maybe like i'm playing a role obviously but you sleep in it oh you shower in it oh Oh yeah.

Um, and then I popped out of stone and now because, um, which I'm getting fixed and when I'm showering, I'm like ripping my face up because it's like rough, but I refuse still to take it off. I'm that kind of girl. Um, who is just like, even when you know you could make something easier on yourself, but you're too lazy to change it. Like you're like, no, I'm still going to do this. That's me.

Hopefully happiness. Let's start with that. Always happiness and getting closer, really learning more about each other and whatnot and each other's families. I'm a very family orientated person, so it's very important to me and definitely win the time as well that we might have a family. I think it's really important to get that a bit more of a stable ground, you could say.

And yeah, we're doing our first movie together. We've raised all the finance together and we've really, I would say like usually I think a huge testament is working together. I would like to, as I said, my father say a Thorne Empire one day. And if I'm going to have a partner and especially for life, I want a partner that I can really work with.

because I love working and it's one of the things that make me the literal happiness in life. And so getting through this process with them and never not once, knock on wood, wanting to rip each other's hair out, I think has been such a beautiful experience. There's been so many times where in the movie industry and

sign a contract and then this and that that and then oh that falls through and this thing and this thing and you're you're on this emotional roller coaster and i would say over the last year of making this movie and we shoot it coming up so i'm talking about making it in the other sense of getting it together um there's been so many tears there's been a lot of moments where i just was like um

You know, why, why, why, why? And this is so important to me and it's become so important to him. And that's that's so beautiful that he's like taking that on with me because he didn't have to. You know, he he's a producer. Yes. But, you know, this is like a very specific thing. And I think it's just so endearing and it brought us really close.

Yeah, I do feel very lucky as well. I can't really imagine it any other way except for in the past when it hasn't gone well. You know what it's like when it doesn't go well. Yeah. Yeah. And so that's that's really beautiful that you guys also get to do that together because it really man talk about going from having an OK day to an amazing day.

And even when you're having a really shitty day, how important it is that your partner is there and can. You know, you're not always able to give 50-50 in a relationship and sometimes you can only give 15 and the other person has to make up the rest. And I think that that's so beautiful when that does happen. And I feel like it happens a lot.

And especially when working, when you're so stressed out and whatnot. And so it's really great that you guys have each other.

um it's good yeah yeah well i think we mostly text on birthdays and things like that um when something good happens in the other person's life um we'll both shoot each other a text um i think the last time i saw her was her birthday party but it's lovely yeah yeah we live in different places too yeah i mean i think i mean my you know best friend is in georgia so it's like we don't but i think just being able to like keep it's like you don't have to talk every day

There was no time has passed.

This has been lovely. Lovely. Yeah, you guys are really, really amazing. I know that we did a little something before, but you are just so incredible.

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That's always when, when the tears come on, it's always a, Oh, here we go. Kind of feeling.

I still have a huge fear of reading out loud in front of people. And when I was doing my book tour and whatnot, it was...

it was like no you were you were doing this like this is something that in in my book there is like a lot of references to dyslexia and whatnot and i spell things wrong and then i rewrite it on the typewriter and rewrite it again and keep spelling it wrong um and it was like a nice way to like i'm dyslexic everybody made me feel a lot better about myself

I'm sure they've forgotten all about their horrible ways. Oh my God, girl. How are you?

No, actually, one of my biggest bullies was my teacher. She really went out of her way to...

bully me and in front of classmates make me get up and read knowing i couldn't make me stay there um at one point she even threw away um a christmas present that's like you know when you get those things and it has the mug and has the little cocoa and stuff um and so our parents like you know got all the teachers like different things and i saw it in the trash when i came back

From recess and I'll never forget seeing it just physically in the trash and like not being able to really comprehend that as a child of like, why is it in there? And I just didn't really understand. And when I told my mom when I had gotten home, she was like, she did what? She was so upset.

She even went as far as to fake my testing to get into the next grade because she wanted to keep me and humiliate me.

Oh, yeah. My principal, who had a really, I think, a fond liking to me because I was bullied and sometimes I would have to sit in her room and do things instead of being with the rest of the class doing things like testing and whatever. So when my mom got back those results and stuff and she took it to the principal and was like, look at this handwriting stuff does not match.

It literally doesn't match. And the principal had me retake the test and I passed with flying colors. This whole bag. So then she was put on leave after that. How old were you when this happened? I was in second grade going to third.

Literally. And I understand that I was often not in school a lot with modeling so young. And because I spoke Spanish and that's my first language and with the reading, I don't know what about me made her like hate me or if she just thought it was so funny when I was reading to be crying in front of everybody and to keep making me do it. Like, I don't know where in her.

I don't know where anybody gets joy out of a child crying and and being, you know, a stepping stone in that in any sort of way. I'm like, why? Why? But I have seen comments before, like, oh, I was friends with her in school. And I was like, liar, liar, liar. I have no friends.

We're connected. Yeah. Oh, trauma bonding. Isn't it good? Yeah.

Let's see, a month ago, maybe? Yesterday? Yeah, I'm not sure that some of those feelings will ever go away or that I will ever really feel like I made it. I'm not sure that my want for creative more will ever allow me to feel that way. Yeah, I think I'll always still have that kind of feeling inside of me. I'm not sure when...

I don't want you to feel like that forever. Yeah. Yeah. I would like to not feel like that forever as well. And I think, you know, at some point probably will not when when something is is so incredible and I really feel like I've done something really great, then. then maybe I'll not have that feeling a little bit.

But yeah, I think I always use all those feelings to drive me or else they'll just sit there getting negative and stirred. And yeah, it's always best to do something with them, put it into something.

I would say probably reading my book out loud at Carnegie Hall. That was a nice one. It was three separate reasons to be proud. One, my dad always loved Carnegie Hall. And so to get there and him not be here to see it was like a And I got to do my poetry about him as well.