Barbie Ferreira
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This is so funny that humans just do this. And we're like, why are we so weird? I'm like, everyone does this.
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Ben, you got your do not disturb on your phone? Henny. What's crazy is that people, no matter how much you tell them to silence their phone, because I did a play and every night, every single show, there would be a phone going off. Every single show.
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There's some kind of therapy where you just talk and they say nothing. You know, they just talk therapy. There's like CBT. There's like so many different kinds. And, you know, it's interesting because people are just like a vague statement is just like go to therapy. You know, it's like, well, we got to educate people on like what kind of help they might want or what works for them.
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And, you know, trust me, I've had some bad therapists. OK, I'm like, how are you?
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yeah professional I'm scared scared you know so it's like it's interesting because it's you know it's people at the other day you know this human error and everything and I think you know with this scene it was so funny because when I when I read it I was like this is no no way this just happened to me like literally at the time it must have been like very recently too so I was just like oh this is the world the universe telling me to do this movie because it's like you
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Eerily like similar to your life. It's eerily close.
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Gosh, I learned so much. I think I used to do therapy when I was a kid, but it was, I grew up in like a very like low income family. So it wasn't the best. It was kind of, you know, what my insurance could cover. And it, you know, it did the job, I guess. But when I started doing therapy as an adult, I used to just think I was crazy. I think that that's, or I'm the problem.
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Every single show. I also think that people, like some people are just like not really in tune with their, I think it's a lot of like the older folks. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, no, it's been off for years.
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And I think that a lot of people just assume that like, oh no, it's just me. Like I just attract this kind of like negativity in my life. And what I really started really deeply understanding is that everything, all my reactions, it is my responsibility to like,
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fix it but it's not my fault you know and I think that that's really I remember like the first time like the first few sessions of this you know my therapist was like there's like stages to this you're gonna get really angry at the people you grew up with and then you're gonna like you know accept it and then you're gonna forgive that you know there's like or that's like kind of like what happens like you start getting angry you're like why did you do this to me and then you know I think through all these years what I've realized is like we all are doing our best but that doesn't mean that it was good
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does not mean it was good and accepting both those truths at the same time like I don't I was raised by my mom my grandma they're incredibly great people love them but I can also accept that like the childhood wasn't yeah great I think I've gotten to a place where it's like I'm able to look
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I think it's healing to know that. And of course, there's some people who it is an ill-intentioned malice in their heart, of course, and one can debate that. But it's good to understand that generationally, everyone is just trying to do a little bit better than the last. And I always said that. I'm like, well, my mom grew up in Brazil, and she was in a tiny town.
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Like, you know, all these things she was, you know, it was it was bad, you know, and then my I'm like, I grew up in New York. I live in Jersey. I like went to a high school in America. Like, you know, so for me, it was kind of like I almost like didn't even think of any of the problems because I was like, well, it's much better than how my mom grew up.
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Absolutely. My mom started doing therapy, I think like, must have been like 20 years ago at this point, you know? And what's funny is also my mom had me at 21. So we grew up together. I'm the only child. She's 21. And really like, you know, really trying to make it work with having a child and being like an immigrant. So- I have so much empathy for her for that.
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D&D, baby. I'm always like, notify anyway. Notify anyway. I used to do that. I used to do that. And then my friend did that the other day when I was in rehearsal. I got so mad at her. And I did it so many times. I was being such a hypocrite. I was like, why would you do that? She's like, that's all you do. Does it actually notify? Does it ding-ding?
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And also I think like in Brazilian culture, it's always just like, you know, I've always heard of like the stories that my grandma used to like beat my mom up, you know, and like, ha ha ha, that's funny. And like, that's totally normal. And like all these, like culturally it was just completely different.
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So like trying to connect with my family and some people, like my mom will go to therapy and it's great. And then some other people, you just kind of have to realize that they- are going to do what they want to do. There is just nothing you can do about it. And that's really the hard part is like letting go of like the control that you have with your family.
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And it's like, I can't help you if you don't want to be helped. And I just have to watch you kind of destroy everything. You know, it's sad, but there's something, you know, I'm like 28 now. And I know if I were to call my mom about something, and my mom is a funny, amazing person. She's so hilarious. And if I call her, if I, you know, need stitches or something, she's going to freak out. Yeah.
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You know, and no matter what, like I'm 28. Like at this point, I know that like if there's like a problem like that, like she's going to be screaming on the other side of the phone on the plane, you know, and I can just like relax.
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So I know where to get calm. Like I know where to go. Like I have my friends. I have my family. I know who's the strengths of everyone. And I don't expect anyone to do something that's radically different than what they are because I'm going to get disappointed.
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Absolutely. So I have a really small family because my whole family's Brazilian except for me. And so my mom and my grandma, my aunt lived here in the US. So it was only three people out of like, you know, cousins and siblings, not my siblings, but you know, everyone.
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So we always had like chosen family, like every Christmas, every Thanksgiving, it would be like 60 Brazilians who they can't go back home. And so even like the last Thanksgiving, I went to my mom's house and there were literally like 100 people there. And it's people that I grew up with who are like family. But, you know, we're not in Brazil, so we can't see our extended family.
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So we have like an extended family in the within the family, within Brazilians in like the New York area. Right. And so my mom was really far away and my grandma moved back to Brazil. My aunt's in Florida. So I really, you know, very sparse family in the States. So for me, I mean, I have like my best friends. I have people that I really lean on. And every time I have a family member,
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I was like, uh. I was like, excuse me. Sorry, everyone. I thought I was on Do Not Disturb. I did not know. And I was. I do not deserve. How about that? But yeah, a lot of people, literally every single show was that. And then some people had like really like crazy ringtones, which I didn't know was still in 2025. And it would just be like a song playing. Or like the Star Wars theme.
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thing it's like my friends also come because they mean that much and my mom also has that too where it's like we just value friendship a lot and that's really important to me and I think is not like instilled in everyone like people think that like they're I think can only be like really close with like their family or their partners and they can't have this like really close like platonic bond you know and so for me it's I always I
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grew up with people who weren't blood like related but were like family and i would call them chia and she was like and uncle and like you know and these are people that have known me my whole life too so i think chosen family is especially if their family's not here if the family is not accepted i know tons of people who like you know we celebrate holidays together because you know they might or they might come to my my family's holidays and you know be part of that because they don't have that
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So I think chosen family is really important, and I think it's not valued as much. And, you know, for me, friendship has always been, like, number one.
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Oh, gosh. A lot of my friends are, like, people I've been friends with for a long, long time. I think making fun of each other. I do that with my best friend, Ben, who happens to be in the room right there. Hey, girl. Oh, hey, hey. He comes everywhere with me. But, you know, I think having like laughing, being there, like loyalty, you know, we all support each other to the max.
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We make fun of each other, like in a playful way. We like keep it just, You know, it's like family. It's like having siblings. You know, I never had a sibling. So that's why what I assume having a sibling is like, you know, where it's like, you know, no matter what, we're there for each other.
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And it's really, I think, important, especially since I'm far away from everyone and I have such a small, tiny little family. You know, it's all, you know, crazy great women. It's great to have like people that I've met through my life who stick around. Yeah.
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Yeah. We gotta see what's up. Push comes to shove. We gotta test them.
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Well, I feel like... I totally agree with you because I've been living in L.A. for six years and almost all my friends are from are people that I met in New York, which is also a very similar kind of vibe, you know, maybe like, you know, instead of Hollywood, it's more like fashion and like art. But it's like, you know, people are there for their own interest.
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And I grew up in New York and Jersey and all my friends are people that I've known for so long and I rarely have
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people and I meet people that are great all the time but having that like friendship where you can have tough conversations you can like read your friends and just be like you need to get it together or I need to get it together I'm in a horrible like place right now and their understanding and it's not just like putting a band-aid over it but like continue it's like having a relationship it's like almost I mean to me my friendships are way deeper than the relationships I've had just because they've been longer and they've been I guess like the trials that it's been tested more you know and
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I just think it's incredibly important because especially now people feel so lonely. And I mean, Lily's a great example, just like loneliness and just like people aren't interacting as much. They're not going outside as much. They're not like connecting with people. And it's I mean, it's been happening slowly for years.
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You know a while now, but it's just a I think a lot of people just feel really lonely and it's causing a lot of problems Actually, like like major issues.
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It's like well you have you have to actually go out all the time I'm like, I can't just be at home all day Like I have to if I want to you know, see the sunshine and talk to people like I have to actually go out the front door And making an effort is hard. I mean, you know, and I'm trying to get better.
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I think one of my New Year's resolutions this year is to like make sure that I'm not missing like my friend's birthdays for no reason or, you know, making a concerted effort to be there for the people that I love, even if it's at like if it's harder to do, even if I have to make it work. You know what I mean?
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So I just think that that's really important because I would whatever I expect people to do for me, you know, I want to give back to the people I love. And, you know, it seems kind of silly to be like, I should be a good friend, too. But it's just like, you know, I think that I just like in checking myself and being like, OK, like sometimes I'm an actor.
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Like we all are like always like just thinking about ourselves. Like that's like really what you do all day. You're like, oh, you know, it's very crazy.
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crazy industry and i and i and i don't want to like take up all the space in conversations and stuff especially when i'm frustrated it's like feels like i can ruminate on something over and over again so just being a good friend also just being honest like if something goes wrong i just i'm like listen this is what is happening with me it has nothing to do with you or it does have something to do with you and you know i hope you forgive me but i just need a second because i'm going crazy yeah and that's what like that subtlety in this movie kind of
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I want to bring back ringtones actually. Now that I think about it, I'm like, why not? Ringbacktones? Ringbacktones.
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Why is she saying like hashtag best lunch ever? Like, that's so weird.
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Yeah, like stop posting so much. Why are you posting that way? You know what I mean? It's like... What I think about this movie is that it's like a really great character study on someone who is just, you know, I think for me, I'm just like shrouded in like I'm like so Gen Z and like I have a third voice in my head about the Internet, like what looks cool, what doesn't.
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And I really actively try to like combat that. I know a lot of people feel that way where it's like you just feel like you're watched and judged for everything. But Lily, she's just a pure heart that like when you see someone be so honest.
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vulnerable it's so like affecting especially now I think because we're so used to not wanting to cringe not wanting to feel like empathy for people that like maybe we don't understand where they're coming from and so this character was really just so interesting to me because you know she there's so many people like her who are just hungry for any kind of friendship and really lonely.
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And people might make fun of her. I think what really is uncomfortable about it is that people might see themselves kind of in her and also in the people that are affecting her. You know what I mean? It feels like you kind of have to be in your head and be like, this person is clearly traumatized and wanting to have people around her, but...
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You know, I'm not used to seeing someone so, you know, excited and earnest and all this stuff. And it's like, it's almost like a little bit of like, it's very, I always say confront, it confronts you with it. And I totally, yeah, I totally agree with you. And it's, I think Lily just like for me is a very good representation of the people that we ignore.
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You know, the people that don't matter, quote unquote, on the Internet, you know, we're like following influencers and people who are living this like really fabulous life and, you know, all this stuff. And then there's this girl who's like she's not doing like a get ready with me. She's not like she has no idea about.
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the algorithm or it's on Facebook it's like not even supposed to be it's supposed to be for like family and friends you know it's like she genuinely just wants family and friends and it's so sweet and I think it's also people just don't think that way you know I just think that they're ashamed of feeling like they want people and to admit that they don't have people around them yeah
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You don't like to have like a little aesthetic on anything?
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Sometimes I forget to be a human. Truly, it's what wives are for.
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Well, I think for me, I was, I started modeling when I was 16 and I worked with a lot of people that I knew. So I would like always, at first, at first it was like, you know, I did editorials with my friend, Petra Collins, who's like a great artist. And we would do like pictures of me in like a bedroom.
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Like, you know, like very, it was a very specific look and it was always for like art magazines and stuff. So that was always really cool. It was friends and I always shot with friends. I met people, you know, and then when I started doing it professionally, I was like 18 or so. You know, I never had like a really horrible experience.
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Like I never, you know, even though I modeled for American Apparel, which had like that whole drama, which never affected me or anything. But the thing that I think was really hard for me was that I felt like I just wasn't healed from, I was 18, freshly 18, just got out of my mom's house all alone, being flown out to like, you know, Germany to go do e-comm and all that.
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They just need a little bit of help. Yeah, it's like, why would you do that, you know? Why would you do that? I feel that.
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And I would go every day to like go do, and I just was like alone with my thoughts. For like the first time in my life, like there was no mom. There's no grandma There was no like, you know, I wasn't I was alone and I had to be my own adult So I think that was really hard for me.
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I think I always was like freaking out for no reason I mean, I was like super irresponsible like there'd be times I like lose my wallet and like lunge You know what I mean? Then everyone has to like try to help me get back home. And you know, it was fun. It was like silly. Like I was like partying and like, so it was really fun.
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And being a plus size model was really cool because it felt like I was around people that understood. And there wasn't like that typical like kind of pressure of like, you know, obviously being really thin or.
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or being particularly tall or you know all these like kind of like nitpicks that straight size models do like for me I was like you know modeling for like Target and like doing just like it was pretty fun and I met really good people and you know I think for me at the end towards the end of my modeling career I was like 21 I just was kind of frustrated I was just like I'm kind of sick of just doing photos because I was also doing a lot of like video stuff I had like a little
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by show on broad, like with broadly. And I had like, and I did like a teen Vogue thing. And I was like, I really just want, like, I feel like I, I I've done enough of this and I feel like kind of slowing down. I don't feel like fulfilled by this anymore. And I always wanted to be an actor. So I was like, I think it's time for me to invest in myself. And yeah,
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ultra famous and lovable and everyone's just like fascinated with you did you was there a moment where like one day you went to bed the next day you it felt like you stepped outside and you know what's funny is it start it slowly started in the beginning and i remember hunter and i were at a we're having like breakfast somewhere this is when this the trailer came out and the waitress was like oh my god i saw you guys this trailer for your new hbo show and we like freaked out we're like ah
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It's out. You know what's funny is that it went by so fast. It was such a whirlwind. I don't think I was even processing what was happening. And after week four of it being out, I was like, okay, this is getting... I'm actually going... People are really stopping me on the street. And it's really... And at the time, I had my short hair. I looked like my character.
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Sometimes if I don't look like Kat, I can get away with a lot. And I also wore my actual glasses in the show, so I had to change those because I just literally looked like I was walking around in costume.
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Yeah, not a good idea. But it was amazing. I think, like, I just didn't... I expected it to do well because I was like, it's Zendaya. It's, like, kids. Like, you know, like, it's, like, you know, we're all, like, you know, doing... Like, it just felt, like, new and fresh. And, like, no one has ever done that. And I loved...
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like shows like Skins, like Degrassi and like all these like teen shows, like whatever level there's like the dirtier ones and like the kind of more like polished ones. But I always loved them. So it's really it was really fun to be part of like the generation's like teen show that like really depicted this generation. And I always I was hoping for that.
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I was like the whole time I was like, I want this to be like Skins. I want this to be like our dirty, like salacious, like teen drama that like every like kid wants to watch, you know, and it worked.
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it's it's a privilege to have in your career especially like the first big I mean I have like a couple of things that I did before it was very like small to have that happen really early is like I mean that's like what you want you know you you can make so much stuff like you know and people can like it but like who's watching it and euphoria really just popped off in a way and I didn't expect it to be like that at all
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I was like, okay, this is really cool. And it also popped off in a way that was really fun. Like it was just like, I felt like it was merging my life of like fashion and like acting. And it was really cool because I got to like put my little outfits on and like, you know, and I was really young. So like, of course I was like always like insecure and like, you know, but overall it was just,
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It was really cool. And I think like it just went so fast that I didn't really process it until I really had time to be like, oh my God, that was, I don't even, like I was like, that was insane.
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Oh my gosh, when I read Cat, I read it, I had no context to it. And I was like, wait a second, this is me. I go, wait a second. Did they just write about my life? And I remember they had this open call that was like thousands and thousands and thousands of people. And so I had an acting agent at the time and I got to audition through that. But my friends were all auditioning for it too.
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And I was like, you guys have never acted? Like, what do you mean? So I'd be like, you know, I mean, what are you talking about? You know, and like I like made me sick how much I wanted it. And thankfully it worked out. But it literally like it was months of me auditioning and just being like, please, you guys have to hear me out. And I mean, with Kat's like sexuality just felt like really real.
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I mean, it's like the Internet and like exploring sexuality through the Internet. It's obviously how people are doing it these days at first, you know. And again, it's like that loneliness thing where it's like you're trying to
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feel connection and doing contemporary things like this where it involves the internet is a lot of the things I do involve a lot of the movies I've shot that aren't even out involves the internet a lot but it's just like contemporary things that that reflect how people feel without it feeling like corny is really I think important because people like hate seeing phones and movies and shows and stuff but I'm like that's just the reality like we can't make a a project about 2020 without an iPhone you know it's like it has to be part of it so it's cool to find ways to
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to make it work cinematically. The micro penis is something that will live in my head forever.
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I know. And I told him not to show me until we were shooting. That is so smart. I was like, unless you guys are literally rolling, don't show me. Because I wanted to be, like, genuinely surprised. So the actor was, like, upstairs in, like, a fake little set that they made in, like, a green room. And I had, like, an earpiece so I could just hear him breathing. And he was really, he was amping up.
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I was literally like, ah! I believe that is what is in the show. It was great.
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Did anyone come out and say that their penis was real or was... I don't think anyone's penis... I think, I mean, if you want to get technical, I think if there's an erection, I think you have to have. You do.
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a prosthetic penis I think if it's not that I think you don't have to but I asked this question so many times I'm like is that real and I have I have had no answer I'm like maybe someone here can answer this for me is it like is it like the union law that like if it's you know if it's erect you have to have a prosthetic penis or if you know what I mean I want to know I want to know because everyone did have a prosthetic penis I'm pretty sure I will say it's a very loaded question for men it is there's no way to answer that without
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You just can't, you don't even mention it. You're just like, I do wonder like if you, like I don't know if the actors got to like choose. Yeah. You know what I mean? That's interesting for me. I want to know what the process is. Is it the character or is it an ego thing?
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That's so interesting. You'll never know. We will never know.
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Yeah, I think it was very mutual. So it wasn't just like my choice. I think after having a lot of conversation and after season two, I think it just, there was just nowhere to go, you know? And I think instead of me kind of like lingering around for nine months, I think it was best for, you know, both of us that we just kind of ended it there, you know?
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And I think for me, I mean, of course it's hard. I'm like, I love you for it. I love Kat. Like Kat means the world to me. I mean, I... that spent so many years like pouring everything into her. But it's like, you know, you don't want to ruin a good thing. I think that that, and it's a mutual, it was a mutual decision. It was absolutely not just me.
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So it was like, you know, everyone decided that this was, there was nowhere to go. And that's hard, obviously, because I'm like, you know, what am I going to do? But again, with acting and like things just things happen all the time and you have to have thick skin and just like make the right decisions for you and your career. And it was hard.
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I was really young and it was just, you know, it was tough, obviously. Like there was a lot of like, you know, discourse about it. That wasn't true. And I'm a person who just kind of like lets everything kind of happen.
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There was a couple, I think most of it, I mean, people just, it's a popular show, so people, like, took it out of, you know, they kind of, there wasn't, like, I never, like, walked off set. There was never anything like that. Like, that was, like, a whole thing. She, like, you know, did all this. And I was like, I absolutely never did that.
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You could ask, like, the hundreds of people that were there every day.
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Fan theories are crazy. And most of the time, they're not, right? But sometimes they are. Sometimes they are.
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That literally has happened to me before. That's why I stopped. I'm like, at this point, respect to everyone who comments back and claps back and everything. I have never been that girl. In fact, I just let it kind of go into its own world and then fizzle out because what am I going to do? All I'm going to do is just
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fueled they're not gonna listen to me they're not gonna like believe me if i say something you know so it's just like uh they're just being fans they're being fans and also i can't read it you know that's like one thing too is a big thing i think that's what when euphoria came out i was so used to being on the internet you know i was like always like telling everyone like everything i was doing like always like talking to camera you know like just always like filling people in and i think like my biggest sacrifice as an actor is i don't use the internet for fun anymore
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really I mean obviously like I scroll through TikTok and you know do that but I don't like post or like a lot of fun most of the time you know I just feel like it's not the same being an actor who's like in a show that's popular also like it's so internet you know but I'll take it I'm getting older I'm fine who from the cast have you stayed closest with Well, I saw Hunter the other day.
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I saw Maude the other day. Sydney came to come see my play. So, I mean, they're all so busy. I mean, I've been out of town for like eight months. So I'm like, you know, whenever we're in town, we always try to see each other. And they came to support the play, which was really sweet. It was very sweet.
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Yeah. Gosh, it's so hard for me to talk about Angus. I know. I'm sorry. No, it's okay. I mean, it's tragic. I don't think I've ever been through anything like that. And I think we all were just really affected by it. And I mean, it just... You know, I haven't lost a lot of people, thank God. And so this was like just... You know, I was actually in Kentucky at the time.
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Thank you so much. I totally agree with you. I think, you know, lots of, like, the reactions I've been getting and reading about people's reactions has been, like, kind of, like, it's so confronting about, like, Kindness, it's like exposure therapy to kindness was one of the comments I read. And I was like, that's so true.
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So I was very isolated when I heard it. And it was just a great shame. Angus was... The coolest guy, the craziest dude, literally the amount of stories. I just love that I can cherish those moments. I think about him a lot.
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He was incredible. He was a complete sweetheart character. It's really tragic. He's so young. It was hard.
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I feel like this movie really is so hopeful and yet so dark, but so uplifting. I just feel like people don't really make stuff like that anymore. It's usually like something fancy, like with a camera trick and like cool clothes and all that stuff. So it's just like... this film really meant a lot to me.
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She's my sous chef. I like to cook, but I don't like to clean. That's my problem. You know, I don't like either. I love to cook. I'll cook if someone else cleans.
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If everyone cleans up all... I would love that.
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I grew up in a culinary family. My mom's a chef and my aunt's a chef. I didn't really know how to cook until a few years ago. As soon as that
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Recently. I make a really good chicken thigh recently. I've been really doing a really good chicken thigh.
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We gotta do bone in, skin on, thigh. You gotta sear it and then you take it out and then you make like a little sauce, put it in the oven. We would do a little lemon, some capers, some anchovies maybe. Oh my God. Yeah, why not? Oh my God. It's so yummy. I also made a yummy like mushroom gravy on something, but it was good. I love to make like, I just like love to cook.
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So if I see something that I like, I make a really good salmon too.
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I literally can't do it. I just cannot do it. I'd rather cook for other people and myself than I can't make myself a thing.
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I always, like, if I make something really ugly, I just put a little herb on it. Like, some herbs. Just a little chive on the top.
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I mean, obviously for personal reasons, but I think for people who are watching it, it's really cool to see the reactions. And I know Tracy, who's like the director and writer, she's been doing like her little tour around the whole country. And I mean, outside of the country too, for all these like kind of mini film festivals and really hearing from people. And it's just been so sweet.
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Speaking of girl dinners, when I was in New York and I was doing a play every night so I would come home at like nine and I would
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literally just eat like pickles and like cheese and salami with crackers like for dinner because I didn't I literally the girliest dinner and like some fruit and like just eating every like pickled thing nuts random yeah because it's just like I would just come home so late I'm just like this is like I'm like this is I'm like 90% sodium at the moment I could feel myself just like full of salt I'm just like how much salami and cheese wow I am inflamed yeah maybe girl dinner you know maybe I should switch it up a little bit
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thankfully now I'm back in my kitchen and I can make like you know rounded balanced meals but do you have like a go-to meal you do yes I either do like a sundubu like a Korean soup I do that a lot I'll order I love Chinese food I love like a good kong pao chicken I love din tai feng what's your order I like the soup dumplings. I'll get the broccoli and garlic sauce. That's yum, yum, yum.
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And then I'll have rice. I usually just really like the dumplings. The dumplings are so good. I'll just get all the different, the pan fried ones, the steamed ones. I'll take it all.
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I love a rice cake. I was just thinking about rice cakes the other day. I was like, I need to go to H Mart and just get some rice cakes.
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Oh, yes. Every time someone has a baby, my first reaction is like, I want one too. I feel like I grew up as an only child. I am the baby of the family and I'm nearly 30. So I never really interacted with a lot of kids growing up or in general. And so I never really thought about having kids until recently. And I think... Also, everyone in my family has had a baby before 21.
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So I'm already, like, I'm not gonna say I'm late. Like, everyone wanted me to not continue that.
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Yeah, like, no one's like, no one was like, you should have a baby. Like, no one's impressing me to have a baby. This is all me. Okay, okay. People are like, okay, my mom was like, you should, yeah, but maybe you need a relationship first.
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She does, but she's just like, you need to, you know, she's like, you gotta, you gotta wait for the right one, you know? And like, don't rush it. But I want a baby in like four or five years. Cute.
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It's like, it's really cool to be part of something that makes people really emotional. I feel like I don't even know, you know, When my friends watch it, I didn't even know that they would have that reaction.
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We like it. I think, you know, I saw a psychic. I didn't see a psychic. A psychic was at a party. A psychic saw me. A psychic saw me. He asked for me specifically. I saw a psychic last year and he told me that I wasn't going to find love in 2024. So I'm like, maybe in 2025. Okay.
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Well, no, that was it. Thanks for your help. That's it. That's all you get.
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Just not this year. I'm like, okay, I'll take it. So I actually really lived my life by that, even though I... It's kind of great. I'm like, I think I'm taking a break from dating for a second.
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I don't. I happen to have seen a psychic at a party.
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I have been to a psychic here and there, but I'm also wary of, like, the L.A. of it all. Like, I'm very, like, I understand the spirit healers and the, you know, and the crystals and Malibu and stuff. I get it. I get it. I think it's fun, but, you know, I take it with a grain of salt. Yeah. It's not like what I, you know.
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When are the twins happening, baby? Oh, my God.
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Maybe. Well, chromosomes make it. Well, I feel like y'all... Because it would have to... There'd be two sperms.
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That's fraternal. Fraternal twins are two different eggs, correct? I might be wrong.
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a part of you in the world and you're just like the exact same yeah and like they're finishing each other's sentences and like that sounds so wonderful like you'll never like but it also is like really sad because it's like you have like this person that is like so part of you that like if you guys are not together it's like you know i've heard like twins knowing when the other one is like hurt if they're not in the same place it's like twins are we need to study that science get on it
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into your next relationship great question i think what i learned about myself is that i'm a particular kind of girl and i'm not for everyone you know what i mean and um not in a bad way but just like you know my life is just very i think a lot of people don't really like that they don't like like a a woman who's like very like loud and like takes up a lot of space and i just inherently do that because i grew up with a lot of women who do that so like even as a kid i was just like
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You know, I never lived under, like, the scrutiny of, like, you know, the patriarchy. Inside voice. In that vase. Yeah, like, where it's like, oh, yeah, you have to be small. Like, you know what I mean? Like, you have to, like, you know, be, like, quiet or anything. So I think a lot of people don't like that. I don't take it personally when they don't.
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And so, and also I need someone who's, like, very... Who's going to take care of me? Because I take care of a lot of people in a lot of ways. And I like really need like someone who's going to really listen to me and be there for me. I am by no means like submissive wife vibes. You know what I mean?
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So it's like, you know, some people, I've also learned with dating is that I just don't take it personally anymore. I'm just like this or, you know, I'm just like, this is not working out. It's not because of me. I used to always blame me.
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Yeah, recently, honestly, like the past couple of years, it's just been so, and of course I get into a trap. I'm like, whoa, you know, like what happened there? But then I'm like, wait, like, did I even like that person? Like, I also learned, do I want someone to like me or do I like them?
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Yeah, I think it's really radical to do a movie that is like genuinely just about being nice. I feel like we live in like a world where we're very critical about ourselves, about other people. And Tracy's voice in this movie is just, I remember we even had like a line that was like a small character and it wasn't even mean or anything, but it was like a slight joke.
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Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I'm hoping I'm the one person who can- For everybody. I'm here for everyone. Everyone will love me. I'm like, yeah, no.
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And it's so freeing. And I always admired that. Because when I was younger, I would just get so caught up in like, what did I do wrong? And I'm like, probably a lot of stuff. But it just doesn't really matter.
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And there's someone else who's like, wow, this is my dream person. Yeah. I also think a lot of people think that they know who I am and then they find out that that's not who I am. You know what I mean? Like people can, and I do that too. Like I project personalities on people.
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I think I also had to stop doing that where it's like, you just start like kind of making these like love stories in your head. And I'm like, I'm going to a point in my life where I'm just, I'm just tired.
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I have never really dated anyone in the industry. Just never have. I think outside, I've dated a lot of people who are creative, but they're not actors. That's not usually what I go for, but I'm open to anything, really. I really am open to anyone who is kind and actually wants to talk to me and hang out with me and spend time with me and communicate.
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I dated women most of my life, so the communication has always been really big. And so it's just like it's just for me, it's a lot. It's like especially now I'm dating like a little bit more seriously. Like I'm not just like, oh, this is just like to be together. It's like now it's more like, what do I want? I'm like, I want a baby in five years.
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You know, it's kind of getting, I'm like, I'm getting older. Like this is not as fun anymore when it's just like crazy. You feel like you have like a timeline over your head? No, honestly, no. But I just, it's more of like a way to know, like sometimes I just don't know what I want and I'll like meet someone. I'm like, okay, but this person's not really that, but then it could be this.
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I'm just like, actually, I do know what I want. And it just have to be like confident enough to just be like, this is like, I do want commitment.
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But it's also like once you're in the relationship, it's so much work, you know, it's not like you think it's like relationships are just going to like save you. And it's then, you know, I was in a serious relationship for three years and it was great. And then after, you know, it was, you know, still great. It was just either single or in a relationship. It's like you kind of the opposite of it.
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You're like, oh, if I was single, I wouldn't have this. Or if I was in a relationship, I'll have someone to go with me. But I just kind of don't even think about it anymore in that way because I just know that I'm getting pickier as I get older and more intentional with stuff. And I never even knew what I liked. If someone showed interest in me, I'd be like, hype. I'm like, yeah.
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And she was like, I don't want to make fun of anyone in this movie. Like she just has such a like,
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For a long time in my life. And now it's a little bit more discernment in that way.
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like a sweetheart and like her voice just like radiates through the film and it's just like it's such a like it's a warm hug and also like really like stays with you I mean I gosh I had to actually do it so like two months after I was like oh my god how am I gonna recover from this so it's so cool that people like it I mean we did it for
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It's super scary. I totally feel you. I feel like it's very confusing. It's also like you have to choose. You have to really choose to be there every day. It's like a very active thing. decision. So if something is not working out, it can be like so hard to just like choose to be there, decide to like fix it. And then you have to know when to walk away.
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But it's also I don't think there is a clear cut. There's no like, oh, you guys should break up or not. It's more like, what do you see for yourself?
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You have to trust yourself. For me, I always just think about like, do I want to live my life like this? You know what I mean? Do I want to feel this way every day? If it's yes, then I'll continue. But if no, like if I literally am like, this can't happen anymore and it's been enough time where we've talked about it, then it's like, okay, then I guess I can make a decision for myself.
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I mean, that's with any kind of relationship.
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like, so little money in Kentucky, very tiny crew, very, very tiny, and everyone just trying to make it happen. And we did, which is honestly a miracle. What connected you and drew you to playing Lily Trevino? Well, when I read the script two years ago, I just felt so connected because I have, like, my own father issues. Like, I don't have a father in my life.
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It's been eight years. You'll think it's like a really big celebration. Like, oh, we've been together forever, which is great. But it's also like, are you hanging on to something that is truly not serving a purpose in your life that is actually serving you? You know what I mean? What's your love language?
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um i like i like a lot of quality time and well actually you know what words of affirmation big big words of affirmation kind of girl yeah i love it i like to hear good things i like to make sure that you tell me like i like to be told you know and comforted in that way so when you're not cooking working making movies like what what are your guilty pleasures where you just kind of check out and and really kind of
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So many things. I've started knitting recently and I've been knitting and I've been watching a lot of like either true crime podcasts, which is like very my mom. Very my mom. Or I'll watch like... I watch the stupidest stuff. It's actually crazy. I was watching like...
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like the beast games and like you know stuff like that you know what I mean it's like so fun to like when I want to like take a load off I will truly get into brain rot in a big way so a lot of that I like you know I was really into milf manor at one point milf manor wow love milf manor love milf manor is that the one peter did
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Oh my God. It's truly an incredible piece of, I actually think it's like, it's amazing. And whenever I tell people about it, they're like, what does that mean? I'm like, MILF men are the MILFs and the sons. Okay.
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And it's smart and it's really smart. Yeah. So I like to watch that. I like to hang out with my friends.
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No, I'm right now in the phase of knitting, like, bandanas for my dog and cat. We're starting small. We're starting very small. It's very hard to knit, actually. And I've been, like, really getting into, like, the knit community around here. I go to, like, the small business. It's so cute. There's a yarn shop and, like, everyone there, it's, like, so much yarn. It's beautiful.
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And, like, people, like, they have, like, classes there. They, like, talk to you about knitting. I'm just, like, I feel like I'm inducted into some sort of society. It's great. Sisters. It's fun. It's so cute. Everyone has like their cute little knits, you know?
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I think like a dress. I want to make like a little halter top dress. I used to, when I was a kid, I used to have a crochet string bikini. And by kid, I mean like two years old because my great grandma knitted it for me or crocheted it for me. And so I kind of want to recreate it. I've been starting to like kind of recreate the bikini, but it's really hard.
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So I just keep just making squares and triangles really.
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Yeah, I mean, it turns out it happens a lot. Turns out a lot of people have problems with their fathers. You know, and I kind of... I spent a lot of my childhood just kind of ignoring it. Like it was like kind of this like elephant in the room that I had like this father that like I just don't talk about. And he was in my life till I was like seven.
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I love it. I'm a grandma girl. My grandma raised me, basically. My mom was in school and worked at a restaurant, so I barely saw her. But my grandma raised me. I'm such a grandma's girl. My grandma and I are very close. Was that hard for you when she went back to Brazil? Yes. I was 18, so as soon as I moved out of the house, she was like, I'm out. I'm gone. It was really hard.
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I just saw her over the holidays when I was in New York, and it was really sweet. But yeah, it was really hard.
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I've been going more recently I went last year I went to Rio for work and then my mom I like to go to Bahia which is like my favorite place in Brazil it's like so wonderful it's like there's like a beach and it's just gorgeous and I'm just like but it's so far it's like It's truly like a 25-hour journey of many planes and drives and all sorts of things, but it's worth it.
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If I go, I stay for a while, so it's really nice. It's like little monkeys everywhere. It's like a little storybook. My mom will send me videos when she's there. The monkeys are stealing my fruit, you know, and they're like tiny little cute like little monkeys or like just giant sloths everywhere. I'm like, this is in mud roads. It's so cool.
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wow manifestation time yeah i think i've done a lot of contemporary stuff like a lot of the things i've done even the films i haven't come out yet which you know i think this year a couple of them will come out i really want to make something that's kind of like a period piece like i really want to you know step outside of just like the 2010s 2020s and just is there a particular period that fascinates you the most i feel like i would do pretty good in like
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the 20s, like, not, like, super period, but, like, 20s and, like, maybe, like, 40s or something.
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Yeah, I feel like that's, like, you know, like, kind of, like, the kind of, like, boudoir, like, pin-up kind of, like, just, like, a lot of, I think that would be really cool. I mean, I'm open to whatever it is. But I think that would be really nice. And I think, you know, my favorite actress is, like, Cate Blanchett. Like, that, like, obviously would be my dream.
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Is there anyone in history that you would do, like, a biopic on? Oh, my gosh, yeah. Who? Oh, God. Let's see. Well, the thing is, people are very picky with that because they're like, you don't look like this person. I'm like, but what if I have prosthetics? You know what I mean? Yeah, you have no idea.
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I'm like, if the penguin can happen with prosthetics and if people, you know, there was like the Tammy Faye with Jessica Chastain. I'm like, prosthetics happen.
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And then he just like, you know, kind of dipped and left the country. In fact, nice, right? Way to get out.
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Literally. So much prosthetics. Come on now. Why can't I play, insert name here? Yeah. I don't know exactly who I would play.
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I am fascinated by like actresses of the past who kind of, you know, I really love the theatrics of like, you know, kind of old Hollywood. So, I don't know. I would say, maybe I shouldn't say yet, but I am working on something that may or may not happen about someone of that nature. So that's why I'm like, I don't know. I think of someone else and I was like, maybe I should.
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So, you know, for me, this was like when I started doing therapy, I was like 18, 19. I went in for other reasons. And I kind of was like, well, my childhood, like, who cares? You know, it's all about like what like 18, 19, whatever my problems were then, which is probably like, you know, dating and being in New York and being insane.
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And, you know, and I remember she really like made me talk about my childhood and I just didn't really think it connected in any of it. And so when I did, I was like, oh, my God, my father actually like this like emptiness in my life actually really affects me. Every day, without me knowing. It's, like, very subconscious.
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So, for me, when I started talking to Tracy, we just had very similar situations happen. Obviously, like, the father in the movie is a bit different than mine. Mine wasn't even there. So, at least he was there. He showed up for lunches. I guess, yeah. I don't know if that's much, if it's what's better or worse. But, you know, it just felt really deep to me. Like, I connected so much with it.
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And then my manager read it, and he connected with it. And I feel like everyone who's seen it, who has, like, this, like, family... trauma of any kind really connects. And even people who don't, you know, they're like, there's been some reactions like, who would ever do this to their kid? I'm like, you clearly are blessed.
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Sadly too many. I mean, anyone can be a parent. I mean, that's, you know, if you want, you know, and so there is just, yeah, the script really, and I felt for Lily because even though I have gone through things with her, things like hers, you know, she's so different than me in a lot of ways. And it was such a cool character to play. That was amazing.
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outside of what I usually do, you know, playing, like, goth girl, which I always love doing. But it was just, like, it was just... I can't believe Tracy even saw that character from my previous work, you know? It was, like, it was... Because this movie has, like, very little, if any, like, sex or, you know, any of that kind of, like, shocking kind of, like, you know, whatever it is.
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But it was just really cool. It was just cool.
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beautiful performance you really believe it I'm always like you know you want to hug your character but how do you do that you know it's I think every character is super different I think with Lily and also like I'm a new actor so every time I do a project I really learn so much about myself and with Bob Trevino specifically I think I when I'm doing a character I for the two months that I'm somewhere like Kentucky or Louisiana or New Mexico it's just
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I really do unintentionally start really dropping into the character even outside of being there just because you're living in the place. You're there isolated. You're really in like the workflow. For this one specifically, I had to like really find the boundaries of like, you know, because I like to like talk to everyone all the time. And that's totally great when it's just like a normal scene.
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E903 Going Deeper with Barbie Ferreira
But when you have to really like go deep and kind of get into the darker parts, you know, you have to really isolate. I remember I had to find like little like closets in all the locations to just like sit in. Sure.
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E903 Going Deeper with Barbie Ferreira
I won't spoil it, but there was one location that there was a little phone booth and it was literally tiny and I was just sitting there for 20 minutes listening to sad music because I had to do a pretty intense scene. But after I'm done with the scene, it actually leaves me.
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E903 Going Deeper with Barbie Ferreira
I think a lot of people sometimes can't get out of it, but it almost feels like an adrenaline rush after because you're like, okay, this was on my mind. I really wanted to do this justice. And then when I'm done, I'm like, okay, we did it. And if I'm proud of it... most of the time, I don't even know what I did. You know what I mean? I'm like, at that point, I'm like, I hope it was fine.
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E903 Going Deeper with Barbie Ferreira
And, you know. You're like, I blacked out. You literally black out. And I was like, I just trust the director to tell me if it was good or not. But this one was, it did hit deep. And like, I feel like it was like a tough summer for me in general. And doing the movie was actually pretty therapeutic. I think.
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E903 Going Deeper with Barbie Ferreira
And, you know, it was like untangling a lot of the stuff inside of me and the whole crew and cast. You like the things that you learn from people when you watch something like this or you are working on something like this. It's like, you know, everyone was there with us. It was so sweet. It was really like the sweetest experience of my life. It was very healing.
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E903 Going Deeper with Barbie Ferreira
Absolutely. And speaking of the inner child, I feel like when I approached this role, I felt like it was like Lily is the inner child. You know, there was something about her that was just so young. And like there's like this like sweet night, like naive, that naivete. I don't know how to say it, but it was just like a very it feels like every because she has so much unresolved trauma.
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E903 Going Deeper with Barbie Ferreira
It's like the inner child is like the forefront.
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E903 Going Deeper with Barbie Ferreira
So that's why I feel like, you know, in the scenes where things, when she like balled it up so much and then she exploded, it was like, you know, the kid inside like really was the motivating or the thing I kept thinking of is like, what is the little Lily like thinking and where does that like put her in it?
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E903 Going Deeper with Barbie Ferreira
And that's why like some of the scenes like it's at the surface, it might not be very, you know, emotional. But then when Lily is in it, it's stuff that she can't even like process consciously. Yeah. And I think that was part of my whole thing in general growing up. So I didn't know what an inner child was.
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E903 Going Deeper with Barbie Ferreira
And then once I started doing therapy and really caring about myself, and I think that's what Lily, that's her journey in this movie, then I really realized what that meant and how that informs everything that you do in your life. So I think this is the first chapter of her vibes.
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E903 Going Deeper with Barbie Ferreira
It happened to Tracy as well. Okay. So we have like a lot, like, you know, and I didn't think this was a common thing. I thought like maybe this therapist was just like a fluke or something and just like really like, but it happened with Tracy. And when we talked, I was like, oh my gosh, this is crazy. I guess this happens to Not just me. But yeah, it definitely happened pretty recently, actually.
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E903 Going Deeper with Barbie Ferreira
I was just like, ha ha. Because in the movie, it's great. And how does that make you feel? And does that make you feel good? Bad? Yeah.
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E903 Going Deeper with Barbie Ferreira
I love her character in it too. She's like, it's chilling. It's like a crazy lady. I mean, it's so funny because she's so the opposite of it, but she's so cool. It was so cool. It was my first movie.
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E903 Going Deeper with Barbie Ferreira
Yeah, how's your inner child? It was our first session ever, too. So I was like, okay, you know, therapist, you gotta date. You know, I had this great therapist in New York who I love and she was such a wonderful person in my life. And, you know, when I moved to LA six years ago, I've still been, you know, dating therapists here and there.
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E903 Going Deeper with Barbie Ferreira
I haven't found, I mean, I have a good one that I like, but it's just like, I haven't found the one that I'm like, oh, this is the person. And maybe this is the one that I have right now is the person, but it's like, it feels like dating.
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E903 Going Deeper with Barbie Ferreira
You gotta find someone who speaks your language too, who understands your, like, Your life, in a way.