Ava Doe

Yeah. Okay. But you're not one of the people that would move the Ouija board, right?

Yeah. Okay. But you're not one of the people that would move the Ouija board, right?

And he's kept it.

And he's kept it.

We get this question a lot. Do we still get fooled? I look to get fooled at least once a day.

We get this question a lot. Do we still get fooled? I look to get fooled at least once a day.

And she, you know, the trick requires a lot of practice. And she had talked to me earlier that day about how do you practice. So I told her that one of my magic teachers told me that you should practice until you get it right seven times in a row.

And she, you know, the trick requires a lot of practice. And she had talked to me earlier that day about how do you practice. So I told her that one of my magic teachers told me that you should practice until you get it right seven times in a row.

And later that day, she had taken a piece of paper and drawn out a series of rows and columns, and she was marking X's and check marks in these squares for all of the times that she had gotten the different phases of the cups and balls routine correctly. I think I was so incredibly surprised at the science, the scientific approach that she was taking.

And later that day, she had taken a piece of paper and drawn out a series of rows and columns, and she was marking X's and check marks in these squares for all of the times that she had gotten the different phases of the cups and balls routine correctly. I think I was so incredibly surprised at the science, the scientific approach that she was taking.

What are some of the ways that we misperceive reality? Because that's what magic is taking advantage of.

What are some of the ways that we misperceive reality? Because that's what magic is taking advantage of.

I'm going to honestly answer this question, Apollo.

I'm going to honestly answer this question, Apollo.

Which is, no, I don't think it would have worked as well. You know, you only know the one door that you open. But I think that if we weren't both aligned in the same interest... I think that we would have been attracted to each other for a while, and I don't know how long that while would have lasted. I just don't think that we would have this connection.

Which is, no, I don't think it would have worked as well. You know, you only know the one door that you open. But I think that if we weren't both aligned in the same interest... I think that we would have been attracted to each other for a while, and I don't know how long that while would have lasted. I just don't think that we would have this connection.

I think I'm always kind of amazed by how much we can still talk.

I think I'm always kind of amazed by how much we can still talk.

Yeah, and I think the other dimension to Phoebe is that, you know, we have other choices. I always wonder what would happen if we have no other choice. I don't know that I could, you know, 100% with certainty definitively say that, no, if I had no other choice, I wouldn't.

Yeah, and I think the other dimension to Phoebe is that, you know, we have other choices. I always wonder what would happen if we have no other choice. I don't know that I could, you know, 100% with certainty definitively say that, no, if I had no other choice, I wouldn't.