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The Bulwark Podcast

'The Hottest Circle of Hell Is for Those Who Stay Neutral'

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I actually do. Okay, great. So, hello. I'll start by saying, so... So, yeah, there are clearly a couple different ways to read this question. One, and different questioners have gotten at this, like there's, you know, you don't have to pick a particular partisan side. And as more of a bulwark person, I definitely don't agree with that. I think Trump is beyond the pale.

The Bulwark Podcast

'The Hottest Circle of Hell Is for Those Who Stay Neutral'

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But there's also, you know, the side that, you know, reason has gotten at that I definitely agree with that. We're ultimately looking toward a brighter policy future and we're standing on our principles. And certainly you've communicated this, that certainly the Democratic side doesn't have everything exactly right.

The Bulwark Podcast

'The Hottest Circle of Hell Is for Those Who Stay Neutral'

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So if I care about something that isn't precisely within the Kamala Harris agenda, maybe I care a lot about draconian zoning policies that are forcing down the supply of housing. Certainly, Kamala wanted to build 3 million new houses, and that's great, but I didn't see a super clear plan for how to do that.

The Bulwark Podcast

'The Hottest Circle of Hell Is for Those Who Stay Neutral'

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So, sure, I believe Trump is beyond the pale, but what's your recommendation for someone who is ultimately looking toward a brighter policy.