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And these are the things, and there's a reason why in government there are positions that are political appointees. We know. The Secretary of Defense, guess what? Every time we have a new president, we got a new Secretary of Defense. We got a new Secretary of the Treasury, et cetera. Those stuff, yes. But then there's...

a ton of positions within each one of these departments that are not political points. It's because we understand the need for continuity, the need for the government, for this whole system, what Jeff Wise was talking about, this thing that we put all this trust in, and of course it's safe. The reason why we've done that is because for however many decades, that's how we've done it.

a ton of positions within each one of these departments that are not political points. It's because we understand the need for continuity, the need for the government, for this whole system, what Jeff Wise was talking about, this thing that we put all this trust in, and of course it's safe. The reason why we've done that is because for however many decades, that's how we've done it.

And so I don't know how you can separate some of the decision-making that's happened in the last 10 days from a tragedy like this.

And so I don't know how you can separate some of the decision-making that's happened in the last 10 days from a tragedy like this.

Well, accidents happen, and I would say I understand in helpless times the thing we do is who's to blame?

Well, accidents happen, and I would say I understand in helpless times the thing we do is who's to blame?

But in that is the ignorance of not understanding, right? There are things, like Jeff Wise said, that you take for granted. You take for granted. Like you said, everyone's like, oh, man, I pay all these taxes. Where do my taxes go? It's like, yeah, like you are benefiting from it all the time. Could it be better? Absolutely.

But in that is the ignorance of not understanding, right? There are things, like Jeff Wise said, that you take for granted. You take for granted. Like you said, everyone's like, oh, man, I pay all these taxes. Where do my taxes go? It's like, yeah, like you are benefiting from it all the time. Could it be better? Absolutely.

But again, the answer, more often than not, for a lot of these things, cannot be everybody gone and I'll figure it out later. Or the way I figured out is bringing people who aren't qualified in the sense that they don't have any experience to how to handle something this large. This isn't like I fired my head chef and I hired new chefs, chefs are chefs. This is something much larger than that.

But again, the answer, more often than not, for a lot of these things, cannot be everybody gone and I'll figure it out later. Or the way I figured out is bringing people who aren't qualified in the sense that they don't have any experience to how to handle something this large. This isn't like I fired my head chef and I hired new chefs, chefs are chefs. This is something much larger than that.

draining the swamp to a certain base looks like sweeping change I'm just I don't want to turn that into the conversation even though I understand why it is that that we're doing it because sometimes horrific things happen I'm I'm not even saying, like this, I don't know whether this is an innocent accident or not that can't be tied to any of this other stuff that we're talking about.

draining the swamp to a certain base looks like sweeping change I'm just I don't want to turn that into the conversation even though I understand why it is that that we're doing it because sometimes horrific things happen I'm I'm not even saying, like this, I don't know whether this is an innocent accident or not that can't be tied to any of this other stuff that we're talking about.

Where there seems to be some flaming debris that is more than circumstantial evidence that would suggest there's an obvious correlation between these things. But if they're not, I would just ask the audience to notice that there are an assortment of American systems all over the place that are failing, that are making things feel unsafe, and they are a byproduct

Where there seems to be some flaming debris that is more than circumstantial evidence that would suggest there's an obvious correlation between these things. But if they're not, I would just ask the audience to notice that there are an assortment of American systems all over the place that are failing, that are making things feel unsafe, and they are a byproduct

of whatever an absence of leadership is on both sides.

of whatever an absence of leadership is on both sides.

Dan, all I'm saying to you is, I appreciate the point you're making. All I'm saying to you is, we had, in essence, an air traffic accident last night, right? We fired 3,000 air traffic controllers 10 days earlier, a week earlier. Like I get the point you're making and it's a salient point. It's a good conversation to have.

Dan, all I'm saying to you is, I appreciate the point you're making. All I'm saying to you is, we had, in essence, an air traffic accident last night, right? We fired 3,000 air traffic controllers 10 days earlier, a week earlier. Like I get the point you're making and it's a salient point. It's a good conversation to have.

I'm saying in this particular tragedy, I find it very difficult to say the completely unrelated, completely understood. I think it was an accident.