Angela Poch
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There are dangers in people kind of just thinking this worked for me, so it'll work for everyone. And they almost get dogmatic. Well, they don't almost. I've seen I've seen I've seen people get so dogmatic about a particular topic. And I know Lorna has, too, just from from knowing some of her stories and stuff. But they get really excited about one thing. And we see this, you know.
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I'm trying to think of something not to offend anyone. I think of an example, I'll make up something, you know, like, you know, placebo X, drink this placebo X, because it cured me of my cancer, right? We see that all the time. And that comes up in coaching, too, both in mental health coaching and life coaching. So it is definitely one of the dangers and
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And hopefully as people can become certified and I know FGI is willing to go to level three. So people are looking at coaching or if they're looking for a coach, there are coaches that do get certification. There are national programs. The ICF is an international Federation of coaching. They have intense supervision, like two. It's not as much as it's not as much as therapists.
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Don't get me wrong, but it's, it's hundreds of hours of supervision. Um, so there are avenues. If you want to be an ethical coach, there are certainly avenues to guide you in that direction.
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Yeah, it's a good question, Rhonda. And it can be sticky to navigate because therapists use coaching tools, as you've already pointed out. Like there are a lot of proactive, excellent, wonderful therapists who use Team CBT in a very proactive way, forward thinking. as well as actually helping people deal with past trauma and things. So they kind of do it all.
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And I refer clients often to therapists or I tell my coaches to work with therapists. Where coaching can excel is actually for situations where you're working in conjunction with one. For example, one of the life coaches I know, he actually teaches nursing now as well. But he started off doing coaching and he worked for a doctor. The doctor hired him. He worked in the doctor's office.
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He was on salary for the doctor. And he would help the clients implement the things the doctor said would be helpful for their health, whether that was mental health techniques or physical, like, you know, helping with their diabetes or heart disease.
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And so he worked under the care of a doctor just to help the client step by step because the doctor's time was, like you say, especially if you're in the Bay Area, very expensive. And so coaches actually can work in conjunction with therapists to help give just maybe a weekly support system.
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But in terms of Team CBT, I think it is a greater area for sure, because team is so structured and it is so much more like coaching. Like I studied coaching before I knew about Team CBT. And when I found David, I'm like, oh, this is like coaching. You know, like little steps are big feats is basically smart goals, which is what we teach and learn first thing.
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That's the first thing you learn in coaching is a smart goal, which is very similar to a combination of little. It's a combination of the habit log kind of and little steps are big feats. But, I mean, David's stuff is so much better and superior, of course.
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Yeah. So but yeah, it's, you know, certainly the language is different. The legal relationships are different for sure. You know, coaches, coaches can help their friends and their family and they're not there to to. Analyze the past or diagnose disorders. Certainly that is for therapist realm exclusively. And here in Canada, even I can't do that.
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So like you have to have a special diagnostic certification program. You have to be either a psychiatrist or psychologist, which I'm not. So it's quite regulated in terms of what they do. We need school psychologists.
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No, no, the therapy part. Oh, yeah. It's quite regulated. And we need those. We need school psychologists who can help diagnose kids so they can get funding for things. So it's a bit different. So, yeah, what makes coaches different? If they're a team CB therapist, you know, it's the language, it's the relationship.
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We certainly talk about goal setting and moving toward having more happiness and joy and what's getting in the way of that. Well, my negative thinking is getting in the way of that. My self-defeating beliefs are getting in the way of that. And so that's kind of the focus rather than trying to talk about depression, anxiety, and how we're going to cure that or fix that or give you
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treatment options for that. These are words we would never use in coaching.
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any kind of psychosis emotional eating disorders we would avoid that as coaches although there are coaches that specialize in that but I personally would that would be cautionary I think Rhonda some of those people are ones that have had successes in their life and they're excited about it and they want to share but and some of them do have training don't get me wrong I don't want to be discouraging of maybe some of the coaches out there who've had extensive training but I
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I would preserve that for qualified mental health professionals that have licensure and, and, um,
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stick with so so i guess it kind of comes back to david you know i know you've mentioned and talked about this and it's something where like i really um resonated with you that how suffering is on a scale and it can get to the point where it's dysfunctional so you think of depression feelings of depression and down and blue they can get so dysfunctional that there's an extra layer of support needed and that of course would not be appropriate for coaching so coaches only work with
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we would say highly functioning people. And they're suffering from everyday suffering. It's not a disorder that they have. It's that they're having these negative thoughts that making them feel miserable.
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And that's an appropriate place for a coach to help someone sort through kind of this negative critical inner self-talk rather than dealing with someone who truly has a clinical disorder that definitely needs care from a professional. Anyways, I think I covered kind of. Yeah, that was beautifully said.
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Sure. Well, first of all, the masterclass is sort of a follow-up to the coaching certification. So I have a Feeling Great certification program. Which people can take, I believe, I want to say it's about 20 hours of training material. Excuse me. But in addition, there's recommended that they take the practice groups. Joining one of the practice groups could be the Wednesday group with Rhonda.
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Could be Tuesday group. Could be my Monday group. There's lots of great stuff out there. But they need to practice before they take a quiz. There's an online quiz. And then they have to do an oral exam. And to kind of show me that they've got a little bit of a handle on some of the team concepts as a coach.
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And then once I do that, or if they already are a coach or a therapist, they can join the MasterCast mentoring program, which is a bi-monthly program where we meet how we have a live session, which is also recorded for people like Lorna, who can't come when it's in the middle of the night for her. So she can watch the recording, but then we have case consultation groups.
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So the groups, they get together and, discuss cases and places that they're stuck. We do personal work, which is, I think, extremely important for both coaches and therapists to do their own personal work and apply all of these tools themselves. so they can see in real time, um, how effective they are, but also makes them a better, in my opinion, makes them a better clinician.
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The more we deal with our own self-defeating beliefs, the more we implement death of the ego and, um, failing as fast as we can. And these key principles for ourselves, the better that helps our clients. Uh, so yeah. And, and then they have one-on-one sessions with me as well. So it's sort of a monthly subscription program. Um,
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with training, case consultation groups, personal work groups, and then one-on-one sessions with me to help make sure they're going in the direction they want to go.
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Yeah. So, you know, like I remember when I was just getting started as a therapist and I had to do they wanted us to do a self-care plan. And I don't know if you remember this, David, but I reached out to you and I asked you, what do you do, David, to deal with your self-care? Like when you've seen a bunch of clients and you're feeling emotionally burdened, what do you do for self-care?
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I don't know if you remember your answer. Do you remember your answer?
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I didn't think so. Well, you said to me, I just see more clients.
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Because seeing clients is so rewarding and fulfilling when you follow the team plan.
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I, that was really impactful for me as a student. And what I recognized was when I was feeling compassion fatigue, as they say in the industry, it was because self-defeating beliefs were affecting me. And I was not adhering to the principles of team, whether it be death of ego, whether, you know, and I know you don't say practice what you preach, but we teach that in team.
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We may not say it in those language, but you know, like, you know, we need to be authentic and genuine and physician heal myself, that kind of concept. And feeling as fast as we can, like these key principles alleviate a lot of the burden that we would often face in terms of compassion fatigue.
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And I have to fix it, right? Like that's the big one for me was I have to fix this. And clients would suck me in and they'd say, but you're the only one that can relate to me because we're the same religion. We're this, we're this, we're this. And so you're the only one that can help me. And I would feel like I'm the one that's got to like fix them and cure them. And it's exhausting sometimes.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, I think that's just ADHD bouncing around squirrel. Um, and, and, and I, I, I like it. Like, I don't think there's anything to fix. I don't think I'm broken just because I like squirrels. Um, yeah, I, I, I think it's, it's, it's the analytical part, right? It's the being able to stop and go, okay, what are the steps? Where do we need to go? Where are we right now? Can I, can I,
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Understand, conceptualize where I am right now, and that applies whether it's tech or team. What exactly is the problem? Where do we exactly need to go? Now, what do we need to get there? So there's conceptualization, goal setting, and then what were the steps in between to connect the two? I think that type of thinking lends itself to both.
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I think it's why, I'll be honest, I get a lot of engineers wanting to be coaches. And they're like, I don't know what I'm doing. I have imposter syndrome because I got my degree in engineering, electrical engineering, programming. But it lends itself to that. And it's because, David, yourself, you love statistics and you have a very analytical mind.
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And so your approach resonates along those same lines. And that's not the right word I meant to say, but...
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Yeah. I guess to specifically answer your question, Rhonda, um, I actually had, and I don't know if I, I don't want to double up on the last, on the other podcast we did. I can't remember how much of this I said on the other podcast, but I had my own health issues, mostly physical at the time. And yeah, yeah. Well, I have, I have IBS. So, you know, bowel issues.
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yeah, the bathroom becomes a little sanctuary because you get to spend so much time there. Anyway, um, it, you know, it is what it is. Let's, I don't, it, yeah, just is what it is. So, um, so I started looking at some health, um, lifestyle changes to do that. And, and in doing that, it led me into life coaching in general, lifestyle coaching, health coaching, that kind of thing.
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And I, I did a little bit of that. And then I realized as I was doing it that, that, um, Actually, it was one particular client that made the shift because I did an approach that kind of was integrative. So we did exercise, diet, mental health. And and then. As I was unpacking this, this particular client wanted to gain weight.
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They felt they were too skinny and in their culture, they need to be fluffy. And so they were feeling really out of sorts and out of place and they wanted to gain weight and they just couldn't seem to gain weight. And so they wanted a nutrition plan and all of this stuff and.
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But it turned out they actually had a lot of self-defeating beliefs, a lot of perfectionism, a lot of worry and stress because they were never good enough as a mother. And once we dealt with that, they were just feeling so much better. And I said, OK, well, now we'll deal with your nutrition plan. They're like, no, I don't need it. I'm OK. Whether I'm skinny, fat doesn't matter.
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Now that I realize it's not about being a failure as a mother, it's about loving my children. I'm good. And so I'm like, well, wait a minute. maybe I'm in the wrong field here. Um, and so then I kind of shifted gears from lifestyle coaching into, into more mental health.
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And I did, I did do my counseling because I wanted to be part of the team CBT levels and you, you know, do you have to be a therapist to be a level four? So that's the reason I became a therapist was to get my level four because, because I was using the coaching tools already. Um, and, uh, yeah, so, so it just kind of morphed as I was helping people and, and, and, on just on the journey.
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So it was just sort of a natural step.
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Okay. Well, we mentioned the Effective Compassion class. That's a free workshop that's open to anyone, a general public therapist coach. And it's just teamcbt.ca slash effectivecompassion.
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Yep, .ca...
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Or you can just go to teamcbt.ca. That's easy to remember. And all my trainings are there for coaches and therapists. And as well as if you want to click on the all courses page, there's courses for the general population as well.
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And like you said, I have one for positive, healthy mind for the Christian, a step-by-step course that they can take that takes the principles of Team CBT and the Bible and incorporates them together. So it walks people through how they can deal with their own negative thinking and self-defeating beliefs from that lens.
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Yeah. I've had a couple of feedback, you know, it's still new. And, and so I'm getting, I'm still getting people trickling and saying that like, this was a pretty amazing course or it's really changed their life or it's helped their relationship, which is interesting because there's no relationship tools in there yet.
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I'm doing a separate course for that, but I think we all know that the more we are grounded in ourselves and have joy and peace, the better our relationships tend to go. So, so personal work does kind of also influence our relationships as well. But, uh, Yep. So that's where you can find me, teamcbt.ca.
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Thank you, Rhonda. I always appreciate you and your insight. And I really enjoyed Wednesday group and I always wish there was more than 24 hours in a day.
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Which is a testament to how fun team is right now. I'm from the country of fun. So it, uh, When you want to pack it all in, it means it's really good stuff. So thanks for that, David.
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It's all virtual.
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Yeah. Yeah, all virtual, my workshops and stuff. I should say I do have groups and communities who invite me to come teach on coaching and or STEAM CBT. So I did a two-day live in person, one in Maryland. I was invited by a conference to come do some training there. So I do have churches and conferences and organizations invite me in to talk about these topics. And I do love doing that, too.
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Mm-hmm.
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No, I've seen clients from all over the world. I have a wait list, so I'm not sure when this pod comes out or whoever's listening, when you're listening, you can check out my website. But I'm currently pretty full. I'm really focusing on training and helping coaches. But I can certainly help line you up with other therapists. And, of course, the Feeling Good Institute has some great –
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searchability to find therapists in your area if you're in the U.S. Or honestly, if you're listening worldwide, if you Google team coach or team CBT therapist, you're likely to populate someone who's skilled in this team CBT as well.
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Every once in a while, I do one of, you know, your famous three-hour, like, let's kick the can, let's get it done. Yeah. And so sometimes those slots opened up and they're always exciting. I'm often shocked myself, even though I know that they work. I'm still always apprehensive because I'm like, no, this can't possibly help someone. I can't possibly help someone in two hours. I'm not David.
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But they tend to go pretty good and I always get pretty good feedback.
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And well, I think more and more are. That's the exciting thing, David, is I'm hearing, you know, I've heard some professors talk about that and I think to do a team. So there is there is more and more people heading in that direction of testing. And as they test, they realize they they are falling short. So if you're listening to this and you're noticing that, you know,
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jump on one of the training programs, you know, search David's website. There's just lots of great material here. Get started for yourself. And I guess my last little bit would be is for each one of us, just do a check-in. Is there stuff to be in belief holding you back today? And take some time to figure what that is and work on it.
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Sure. I mean, it's a big question because, of course, it's not a regulated profession and that is partially a downside and partially a benefit. And we can talk more about that. So it's hard to define it because you'll get different answers from different people. And of course, it also depends on the topics. And we're going to stick with team because that's what we're talking about here.
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A hundred percent. Actually, that was in my notes and I, and I missed it. I scrolled past it. That was my notes to say that I think it's going to be pivotal for, you know, help like integrating coaching and, and the, and the app, um, Currently, I'd have to use a VPN to get it, and I'd have to pretend I'm from the U.S., but it'll come my way soon.
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But it's somebody who guides someone toward a positive goal setting. So it might be maybe they want to find more happiness and joy. Maybe they want to implement healthier lifestyle habits. And as they focus on that forward goal, there's challenges that come up in trying to reach that goal. And we use the Team CBT model and tools to deal with those challenges.
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Wonderful.
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Sounds good.
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And I will say a lot of therapists like Lorna and other people do use these kind of coaching, we'll say, tools to help support their clients along the way. So I actually have quite a few therapists who are moving toward coaching.
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So they already have all the training, but they're finding that this modality of kind of forward thinking, which is already inherent in David's team philosophy, is very helpful.
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Both. Yeah. Yeah. They're labeling themselves a coach, like even in their promotional material and so on and so forth. There just seems to be a different connotation to a client who comes to a coach than one who goes to a therapist. A lot of times when a client comes to a coach, they're kind of, I'll say partially motivated to get going already. There's something about that model of
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They know they're coming to set a goal. They know they're coming to move forward and they're not expecting the coach to be an expert and psychoanalyze them and and deal with years of the past. So the language kind of lends itself to to maybe I guess the word is filter your clients to ones who want to get to work.
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Yeah. You know, I think there's a conception out there that to dig deep into change and lasting meaningful change means unearthing some hidden cause when in fact the cause all along is what's going on in the here and now.
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And you are actually dealing with the cause when you deal with the here and now and what, you know, the internal suffering that you're facing based on your own negative thinking toward yourself, talk toward yourself.
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Hi, Lorna. Hi. Hi, Rhonda. Good to see you.
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Yeah.
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That is the danger of something being unregulated and unlicensed, right? Like it's just you have the door opens for charlatans, as David would say, right? Like people who want to make big bucks. And, you know, I won't say names like Tony Robinson because I don't want to get in trouble for saying those names. But you get kind of these gurus and they capitalize on the motivational.
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Yeah, exactly. Well, I mean, some of them mean well, some of them don't. I don't know. I don't know their motivations. I can't mind read, although I do sometimes attempt to do it at times. And I think that is one of the dangers. And it's one of the reasons, I mean, you know, that I'm trying to do, you know, a team CBT.
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And I actually, instead of calling it team CBT, because that's too similar to therapy, calling it feeling great coach certification, to... Give them some ethical training, some boundaries training, help set up the outline of doing a good coaching session, encourage them to get more training and practice. But you're 100% right, Rhonda, I totally agree with you.