Andrew Litchy, N.D.

So we're not in opposition, but we don't do the same thing. And we work together. So just... When I work with people with cancer, I don't give input on their conventional care, and we work with it to help it go as well as possible. So that's a place we integrate. Another place people will be here is in place of cancer. conventional primary care initially.

So we're not in opposition, but we don't do the same thing. And we work together. So just... When I work with people with cancer, I don't give input on their conventional care, and we work with it to help it go as well as possible. So that's a place we integrate. Another place people will be here is in place of cancer. conventional primary care initially.

I always encourage people, they need to have their PCP, their relationship with it, with them. But as you said, implementing lifestyle is challenging. And it takes time. And it's not as simple as saying, oh, if only I ate better, I will, you know, there's

I always encourage people, they need to have their PCP, their relationship with it, with them. But as you said, implementing lifestyle is challenging. And it takes time. And it's not as simple as saying, oh, if only I ate better, I will, you know, there's

Yeah, there's, you know, even with quitting smoking, everyone who smokes these days knows they should quit every time they have a cigarette, right? But they still continue to do that. And so making lifestyle change requires a relationship. It requires helping the understanding of the secondary benefits people get from it, and really coaching and support to learn to make these changes.

Yeah, there's, you know, even with quitting smoking, everyone who smokes these days knows they should quit every time they have a cigarette, right? But they still continue to do that. And so making lifestyle change requires a relationship. It requires helping the understanding of the secondary benefits people get from it, and really coaching and support to learn to make these changes.

So that that takes time. And I, by the way, I think I find that fascinating. Helping people make change is really an interesting part of what I do. And so that's, I feel fortunate we have time. I take an hour for patient visits and it can require that time over months to really get to help them make the changes they need to.

So that that takes time. And I, by the way, I think I find that fascinating. Helping people make change is really an interesting part of what I do. And so that's, I feel fortunate we have time. I take an hour for patient visits and it can require that time over months to really get to help them make the changes they need to.

Well, yeah, so that's a matter of education, partially. I mean, you know, we've been using botanical medicine long before we had antibiotics. So there's a huge history of historical use of maybe the entire human history of using plants and natural methods to heal us, right? And so that's one. It's not new.

Well, yeah, so that's a matter of education, partially. I mean, you know, we've been using botanical medicine long before we had antibiotics. So there's a huge history of historical use of maybe the entire human history of using plants and natural methods to heal us, right? And so that's one. It's not new.

It's actually, we know how to do that very well when you have the traditional knowledge of it. And two, I think related, there's a concern of research and clinical guidelines for utilizing these things like that. And I think that in many ways is a bit of a stereotype about what kind of research we have around our plants and how we use them.

It's actually, we know how to do that very well when you have the traditional knowledge of it. And two, I think related, there's a concern of research and clinical guidelines for utilizing these things like that. And I think that in many ways is a bit of a stereotype about what kind of research we have around our plants and how we use them.

We have a lot of basic science information around the herbs we use. and a growing body of knowledge of like how to use them. Whole systems research or whole person's research is new though. It's only in the last 10, 20 years, we've had the math to start working with multiple variables in healthcare. And even then we're not great at it yet.

We have a lot of basic science information around the herbs we use. and a growing body of knowledge of like how to use them. Whole systems research or whole person's research is new though. It's only in the last 10, 20 years, we've had the math to start working with multiple variables in healthcare. And even then we're not great at it yet.

So sure, we have outcome-based research, but, but to really look at the, the the power of something like Chinese medicine or naturopathic medicine. We just don't have the tools quite developed to really answer some of those questions. So that is a, that is a limitation. But I think, um, yeah, these are, these are things we've used for a long time.

So sure, we have outcome-based research, but, but to really look at the, the the power of something like Chinese medicine or naturopathic medicine. We just don't have the tools quite developed to really answer some of those questions. So that is a, that is a limitation. But I think, um, yeah, these are, these are things we've used for a long time.

We learn, we know a lot about how to use them and we're catching up and really going to town on research on it as we speak. So. Thank you. Yeah. Thank you.

We learn, we know a lot about how to use them and we're catching up and really going to town on research on it as we speak. So. Thank you. Yeah. Thank you.

I don't know. I don't know. It's a great question. Why is there only a small semester course on nutrition in medical school? I don't know. I think there's some nice stories about that. I mean, I think the conventional idea that nutrition doesn't matter is beautiful.

I don't know. I don't know. It's a great question. Why is there only a small semester course on nutrition in medical school? I don't know. I think there's some nice stories about that. I mean, I think the conventional idea that nutrition doesn't matter is beautiful.