Ally Lewber
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E915 – Going Deeper with Ally Lewber
Like, but sometimes I think you have to just really figure it out for yourself. It's like, you kind of just have to, you know, I don't have any regrets. And James, at the end of the day, he is a great person. Like he has great, great qualities and he's wounded. Tried to fix that.
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E915 – Going Deeper with Ally Lewber
I honestly don't think it's women. I think because we've seen him act that way to men, too. And to like to like Max Vanderpump, Lisa's son. I think that he, again, is just wounded and like hurt people, hurt people. And I think that he does not know how to process his emotions in a healthy way. And so it just he's a verbal attacker. Like he cuts deep.
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E915 – Going Deeper with Ally Lewber
He's a child. He needs to learn how to, yeah, process his emotions. And he's aware of that. That's like, you know, he is aware of it. What do you mean? Like we've talked a lot about it, you know, in our relationship, obviously. And just he knows that he he's got a mouth. He's mouthy. And he would always kind of joke like, oh, British humor. But he just yeah, I mean, it's never OK.
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Like the things even the word like he would always use the word fat. And like the way that I was raised, it was just like you just don't use that word. And so he knew that I had a lot of like, James, you can't say that. So, again, I feel like I would just take on this role as like almost being like That's not correct behavior, but like this is crazy. Like looking back now.
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E915 – Going Deeper with Ally Lewber
Yeah, it's kind of it's crazy. I don't know. You see a side of him. At least I did, especially in the beginning. Super charming, sweet, creative, hilarious. You're laughing. He's such a like attentive partner. All of those qualities are just so powerful. So it's like, I know who I fell in love with. I know who I was in love with. I don't have regrets.
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E915 – Going Deeper with Ally Lewber
Like I was fully like invested in that relationship, but it's hard to pay attention to like, well, when the 10% is like bad, but 90% is good.
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E915 – Going Deeper with Ally Lewber
I know he would always say like, well, I don't really want like if we're not filming, why would I I don't really want to go and like talk about everyone or like have to keep all the drama going. So like that was always what he would say. But yeah, I just think that I don't know, maybe podcasting. It just yeah, he wouldn't be very comfortable doing it.
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E915 – Going Deeper with Ally Lewber
Here's the thing. I'm sure when he was drunk, he would say mean things. I was really good. And I'm just saying this from like, I don't know why, but like nothing he would ever say would get to me because I knew that I'm like, you're just like being a dick and you're drunk and like, you know what I mean?
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E915 – Going Deeper with Ally Lewber
I don't know. I think I would just be like, well, you know, it's kind of like maybe that's why I stayed so long, too, because it's like one of those things where I'm like, I'll just throw it right back at you. You know what I mean? Like, we kind of were even my friends would be like, well, you're really good at putting him back in his place. which like, that's not great. Like that's okay. Yeah.
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E915 – Going Deeper with Ally Lewber
That was great for the time being, but you don't really want a partner that you can like match that energy with. Not that I was matching his energy, but like, I, I would be like, that's, it shouldn't ever have to get to that.
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E915 – Going Deeper with Ally Lewber
I think, too, of like the feeling of love, like when you're in it and like not saying that he was love bombing me because his actions always followed. And like, you know, we were in love, but it happened so quickly. Like we moved in together right away. We were like going to Tulum like the second week of knowing each other. That's crazy. Like I'm a Capricorn. Like I wouldn't do that usually.
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E915 – Going Deeper with Ally Lewber
I thought I was crazy. But there's this, you know, when you're in love, you're like, okay, I'm just going to ride the wave. Like this feels right. This feels so fun. But I think now being on the other side of it, like having just a healthier kind of view of like the way that love should escalate and how it should play out. It doesn't need to feel like so cosmic.
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E915 – Going Deeper with Ally Lewber
It's so funny you say that because I remember also when we started dating like talking to Raquel and being like thank you because like I'm sorry that you didn't get this version but like thank you for helping him like it's kind of weird how just I don't know the pattern you know I honestly do have so much love for James. That I want him to genuinely heal and get better.
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E915 – Going Deeper with Ally Lewber
And I want him to find love. Like I really do. And I don't think that that will be with me. I feel like there's just been too much that's gone down. I think I would always just be on edge or like wondering what if, you know. And it's hard because I would love to support him and do that. But I just can't.
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E915 – Going Deeper with Ally Lewber
That's what's so hard. My therapist has been incredible because I was telling her like after all of this happened, I was like, I'm just so confused because I'm. I didn't realize at the time. I was like, I literally thought that our life was like a fairy tale. Like I loved it. I loved our house. I loved hippie. I like everything was great. Our both of our careers, like it was just perfect.
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And I was like, it was so great. And she was like, Ali, no, it wasn't. He was lying to you. So like it wasn't real. And I was like, shit. Whoa. So it did take me a while to almost have to like really remove myself and like to see clearly again.
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E915 – Going Deeper with Ally Lewber
No, hippie is with James, but it's okay. You have your cats. I have my cats. I have Mr. Banks and Bodhi. I've been sleeping with the stuffed golden doodle. It was hippie's little golden doodle, and they literally, like, so I took that with me. But, no, he's with James, and hippie is great. I... like James and that dog are literally soulmates.
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E915 – Going Deeper with Ally Lewber
Like I honestly, like if anything great from that relationship, I mean, a lot of great things have come from it, but like him getting hippie back and like that whole story, like he is a great dog dad and I will trust me. I would not let hippie be in a position where he was ever unsafe. Like he's good.
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E915 – Going Deeper with Ally Lewber
Yeah. Yeah. Peace. I believe that he, I don't know if he got his residency back or if he's just, but I know he played at live again and I'm, I'm, I'm happy. I want him to, I don't know.
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E915 – Going Deeper with Ally Lewber
changing his ways the I mean that's exactly why I can't be with him right because I don't know because I won't know we won't know until like enough time until he proves it I hope that he is from what I've seen he has been going to AA he has a support system around him um that are also sober so like I just hope that he stays on that path I know that he loves DJing more than anything in the world like he will move to Ibiza if he has to and just like
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E915 – Going Deeper with Ally Lewber
play music on the beach you know what I mean like that is what he I believe is meant to do so he'll figure it out but I yeah I hope it's not triggering for him but not my problem
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E915 – Going Deeper with Ally Lewber
Not no contact, but we don't really, we don't talk. But like yesterday I was like, Hey, uh, I just canceled hippies. I was, I, it was like a whole brand deal thing. And I was on the count and I was like, canceled that. So like you need to reorder his food. And he was like, okay, thanks.
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E915 – Going Deeper with Ally Lewber
I just know that he's not going to be happy. But, yeah.
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E915 – Going Deeper with Ally Lewber
I just feel a little, like, I don't know. I think he has strong feelings about things. But, yeah, it's not...
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E915 – Going Deeper with Ally Lewber
But even when we were together, he never really wanted us to do podcasts and things. Yeah. So I don't know. I think that he, when he listens to, I mean, I'm not saying, I'm saying the truth and like everything that he already knows too. So.
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E915 – Going Deeper with Ally Lewber
Yeah. Yeah, that's crazy. He was with me. So the night before like that night that everything happened to like that week was such a high and obviously such a low. I had three of my biggest job opportunities like ever, obviously doing Kathy Hilton's birth chart for the party.
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E915 – Going Deeper with Ally Lewber
And then for Starstruck for my podcast, we filmed the very first episode the night before Kathy's party with James, obviously, like he was going to be my first guest. So like that was so exciting. And then the Kathy thing, and then to just, and then I had something else the next day.
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E915 – Going Deeper with Ally Lewber
And then to just have also like the astrology of December, I was telling James, like leading up to it, I was like, hey, the astrology for both of us is really bad for December. So like, if we're meant to be together, we will make it through December. And if not, we won't. I gave him so many warnings. Guys, literally, I was like,
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E915 – Going Deeper with Ally Lewber
That's crazy. Yeah. And my friends knew too. My makeup artist Anais was with me for those nights because I had so many events going on. She was like, Ali, like the next day she was like, well, actually she didn't know about it until the world did. Cause I didn't say anything, but she was like texting me like, that's crazy.
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E915 – Going Deeper with Ally Lewber
You literally called that because I didn't know what was going to happen, but I just knew that like the astrology was crazy. It was all happening in my seventh house, which is the house of relationships and And in his 10th house, which is like reputation. So I was telling him to like, hey, be on your best behavior. It's crazy.
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E915 – Going Deeper with Ally Lewber
that does make sense. And yeah. Yeah. Cause there's this, uh, he's done it before. I've seen him do it before where like, if you don't see that, like even for like Raquel, I mean, she saw it with Kristen, but like from Kristen's perspective, yeah, that had to have been harder because it's like, she doesn't know that like to her, like it's her problem.
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E915 – Going Deeper with Ally Lewber
Like he's lashing out at her, but it's like, okay, this has been such a pattern of this man, this boy. So like, okay, this is his problem. Like, you know, I don't take it personally.
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E915 – Going Deeper with Ally Lewber
Yep. Yeah. I do. I agree with you. I think that it would have just the cycle would have continued. I already know that it did. I had an event the next day, woke up. All my friends were like, oh, where's James? I'm like, oh, he has food poisoning. No, he was in an AA meeting. Like, and I felt so guilty. But like the things that we do to like protect them because we feel bad is crazy.
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E915 – Going Deeper with Ally Lewber
I know you're very close with your mom too. Single mom. Like, yeah. So that's just.
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E915 – Going Deeper with Ally Lewber
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
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E915 – Going Deeper with Ally Lewber
Oh, well, thank you. Yeah, I know. It's difficult. I feel like a lot of people say that. And it's sweet. I do think that we both brought out the best in each other, obviously, at times. He really helped me feel like confident and he really believed in me and helped me like, you know. honestly pursue astrology and like kind of just, he's such a dreamer, you know?
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E915 – Going Deeper with Ally Lewber
That was like one of the things that really drew me to him in the beginning. But yeah, it was crazy, right? Like, I mean, he was really at the top of his game. Like he was really the DJ residency. Like everything was going so well. Vanderpump was over, but somehow he was ending on a high note. Yeah.
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E915 – Going Deeper with Ally Lewber
Yeah. It was such a good, we were, yeah. And then everything. Yeah.
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E915 – Going Deeper with Ally Lewber
I mean, that night. So wait, when you guys were talking to him. So because I was working at that event, Kathy Hilton's party, I was I was there with DirecTV. Yeah, I was there to do Kathy Hilton's birth chart. So for like, the first two hours before, I mean, I hadn't even seen James, right? Like I was working. And then I rap, I come out, I'm finished. I'm like excited to see him. And I
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E915 – Going Deeper with Ally Lewber
Now we know. During that time, he had been sneaking and going up to the bar and ordering drinks. James is the person where he can have one drink and you can immediately tell. It's pretty obvious. And I kind of knew something. I was like, you're being a lot. You're giving drunk tapes right now. We kind of got through the party and everything was fine. Had he been sober?
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E915 – Going Deeper with Ally Lewber
Yes. So basically I love astrology and doing people's birth charts. I love being able to connect.
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I was like always kind of just that girl. Like I was always into it even as a child. Like I guess spiritual, but like I just loved all that kind of stuff.
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you know, I love astrology because I don't even have the answer to that. It's like this whole mysterious thing that blows my mind every time I do a birth chart reading. And I do use it as a compass. I use it as a tool. I use it as a guide. I've gotten a lot better. I do not like
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live my life based off of it I do believe in free will but I also believe in like fixed fate and I think we all have a destiny that we play out and the birth chart shows us that it's like these are your strengths these are your weaknesses and that's okay like we can't all be perfect and you know we all have our little things but it tells you so much about yourself so like you not only get to learn more about you but also like your partner and your friends people and
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E915 – Going Deeper with Ally Lewber
We're all so interconnected and astrology just proves that. And like, that's why I'm obsessed with it.
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Yes. And I love River's, you guys. She's a Libra rising, which I'm looking at dad because she's going to have... I know that you're a Libra. She's going to be like me. But you guys, they do have a lot of similar traits. But don't worry. No, no, no. I'm giving this child nothing but my chin.
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E915 – Going Deeper with Ally Lewber
but it's true because she looks a lot like me but like I but like I you know I remember when you had her and you were saying like the family was like oh my gosh she looks like Nick and you were like stop no I birthed her I just carried her for nine months and pushed her she's so beautiful in a way that I just it doesn't come from me aww Well, she's a Libra rising.
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E915 – Going Deeper with Ally Lewber
So she's literally going to be beautiful forever.
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Okay. So the rising sign, that is your energy. Like that is absolutely how you move through life. Like our sun sign. So like you're a Libra sun. That's who we're becoming. That's who we want to be. That's where we feel our best and where we feel confident. So like think of it like that. But the rising sign, that's really how we move. That's how other people view you.
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E915 – Going Deeper with Ally Lewber
It's your motivation for living. So when we have a Libra rising... She is ruled by Venus. So that is the planet of beauty and love and art and history. And like, she's charming. She's going to be so diplomatic. Basically, everyone is going to be obsessed with her and she's going to have a lot of lovers and boyfriends. So that's why I looked at dad. I was like, sorry, dad. Whoa.
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E915 – Going Deeper with Ally Lewber
So I'm a Libra moon, Capricorn sun. So that is a great question because I want both.
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He had been, to your knowledge. To my knowledge. But no, he wasn't. So then later I found out like after everything that he was drinking behind my back. For a while. Oh, wow. Yeah. Yeah. At least a few months like that I know of. So that was like a whole other like side of everything too, where I'm like, okay, there's no trust then, you know? Right. So that was a whole thing also.
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E915 – Going Deeper with Ally Lewber
Respected. Of course. Respected. Yeah. Yeah. And it's the Libra placement. That's it's kind of funny you say that because their whole like lesson, every sign has their thing. And with Libras, it is like.
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E915 – Going Deeper with Ally Lewber
eventually they learn okay everybody does like you and want to be around you but you have to learn that like you don't have space and room for everyone at the table like you have to set boundaries and like you get to be picky of who you allow and like that goes for you too as a Libra sun but like you've probably learned that over time okay so before we get into our charts I need astrology for dummies okay I don't even know all the signs so there's that you're kidding me no
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E915 – Going Deeper with Ally Lewber
So I studied Hellenistic astrology and it dates back, I mean, before Christianity. I mean, astrologers, they were the mathematicians of the day. They were the astronomers, right? Like that's literally where it all began is like looking up at the sky and patterns. It's all patterns.
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it's just like interesting because the way that astrology like the history of it it's had peaks obviously like the 60s right like peace and like there's like moments in history where it like comes back and then it always goes away again and um it always but anyway like where are we now in the history of us i think it's gonna stay but then again neptune just went into aries which i'm a little worried about okay i'm a little worried but anyway anyway the first astrologer woman was burned at the stake isn't that crazy
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Because it was like a men thing. And the kings, like all the kings had like the right hand men. It was like the astrologers. Anyway, so that's like where it was formed. But basically, there's a bunch of different types of astrology as well. But natal astrology is the moment you were born. So that's why that birth time and location matters. So it basically calculates the points. It's mathematical.
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I can't do that, by the way. We have like That does that, obviously. Not a mathematician.
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It can change by up to four minutes. Usually doesn't. But say, okay, say we put 4 p.m. for you, but say your mom comes back and is like, oh, 7 a.m. It'll change. We'll be looking at a different time.
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E915 – Going Deeper with Ally Lewber
The degrees will change a little. So you do want to get as specific as you can. But basically, and this is what it looks like, it's basically a snapshot of the sky of at the exact moment in time you were born. So I think of it as a cosmic blueprint for life. Like there's a lot in here that you have already experienced.
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E915 – Going Deeper with Ally Lewber
That's true. Everyone should just get one of these when they're born. That's so funny. That actually makes everything easier.
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I'm like, why isn't the government using astrology to solve crime? They probably are. Nancy Reagan had an astrologer in office.
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E915 – Going Deeper with Ally Lewber
Yeah. After Ronald Reagan got shot the first time, she was so nervous and she loved him so much that she had an astrologer come in. Wow.
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E915 – Going Deeper with Ally Lewber
So your rising sign is- And what is a rising sign? It's also known as your ascendant. And basically it is the first, it's the first house, house number one. That's where Nick was born. So Nick was born right here and he entered the world. And the first energy that you ever met or like came into contact with was actually Aquarius, which is why you're so, James is an Aquarius.
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Sorry, drawing comparisons, but I'm saying in the way that like you- Here we go. Sorry. Sorry. You both like, you know how James marches to the beat of his own drums and he says what he wants and he doesn't care about being liked, which Libras usually do. But because you're an Aquarius rising, you have an edge to you where you're like, I'm doing my own thing in this lifetime. Like, it's fine.
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And then that's when, when we got in the Uber on the way back home, that's when I was like,
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So you're an Aquarius rising. So that's how you move through life. Very innovative, very like creative, outspoken, but you're here. Aquarius is like very humanitarian and they're like here to shake up systems and to evolve basically. So that's your rising sign. Also, if you're ever reading your horoscope, read for Aquarius, not Libra.
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E915 – Going Deeper with Ally Lewber
Nick, when you're reading Cosmopolitan Magazine in the mornings and you're going to the horoscope section, read for Aquarius.
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E915 – Going Deeper with Ally Lewber
Yeah, because horoscope is Greek for hour marker. So it's all about the rising sign, not the sun. You can still read for the sun and your moon sign because those are still like really big placements in our chart. But for timing, which is like why people usually look at horoscopes, like what can I expect this month? Read for your rising sign. All right. Yep.
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That's crazy. That's crazy. Yeah, that's your daughter. Literally. And she's a Libra rising.
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And River is a Libra rising Aquarius sun. So you guys are switched.
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That just means you guys are going to get each other on like a really deeper level. Have a really strong connection, like always. Sorry, Natalie. I know. Wait, let's see. Okay, wait, but also. Wait, let's see if there's anything that connects Natalie to her daughter.
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I am looking, though. No, take your time. Actually, take all the time you need. But wait, before we do leave, Nick, I did want to tell you, though, this is cool.
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E915 – Going Deeper with Ally Lewber
mercury is the planet of communication and storytelling speaking you have it at 28 degrees in the ninth house the ninth house is where we see publishing sharing your wisdom with the world like the ninth house is the student and the teacher and that's where we see authors that's where we see like motivational speakers or people who just have a strong voice in society so like you have mercury conjunct your sun and saturn basically you just have a lot of energy in your ninth house
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So it makes sense with like your career path and being like opinionated and having a powerful voice, writing a book. Cause you would have never have made it as an accountant.
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I was going to say, but you would be good at it. Cause Aquarius is the smartest sign.
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Libra and the ninth too is just like, it's very well, it wants to travel and like learn about like deeper life stuff. The ninth house is always just like a big question mark. Like what is the meaning of life? And it's Libra. So it has that relationship theme because Libra is the sign of relationships.
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Yeah, it is the sign of the scales balancing. It's the idea that we're meant to balance ourself, like our soul with another. So it's a balance between the two. With Libra, I think two is better than one. It really loves partnership. And is that partner like a Virgo? And the partner is a Virgo.
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He has Jupiter in Virgo, which means that when you guys met, it probably did feel like almost like you guys have met before. In another lifetime. It was just a like very magnetic attraction and it's in the eighth house. So like the sexual chemistry, it was like, yeah, you guys were just like, oh my God, I'm obsessed with you. Can concur. Can concur. Okay. Okay, great. This is fun.
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Also, sorry to add to that because I feel, I get asked this a lot and I just want to say that you can have both too. Like, like I wouldn't even say astrology is like my faith. I believe in a higher power. I'm very spiritual, but this is, again, it's like, I use it as a map. I use it as a tool. Like you can still have faith.
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Like, it's also for listeners that do know astrology. I just have to let you know that Nick has a stellium in the ninth house. So literally everything you're saying is...
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is so on par with your chart the ninth house is the house of religion belief systems faith questioning it all because you're like you're very aware that there's more out there but you're like you're just on a journey to understand it like not that you need to know everything but you're just curious like that's the ninth house and you have four planets there so that just means there's a lot of energy in that area of life for you okay all right tell me about my wife
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Okay. She's like, doomsday. Absolutely not. No, I am obsessed with Natalie's chart. So you're a Virgo. I am. Which I love. I love Virgos. I love Virgo women.
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So the fifth house, this house here real quick, this is the house of children. And you have your moon there. And I just want to let you know, because like the moon, it's the most important planet. It's how we mother. It's how we nurture. It's how we feel safe.
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Honestly, it was just such an upsetting night. My friend was also there. And it was all of us just really fighting and yelling at each other. I wasn't hurt. I do know that. I don't know who called the cops, but I know they obviously showed up and then they like assess the situation themselves. I did not press charges. I was not hurt.
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E915 – Going Deeper with Ally Lewber
it's how we regulate our emotions so like wherever the moon lives in our birth chart like that is an area that we have to nurture it's like the most important area and you have it in your fifth house of children which means quite literally also like not everybody who has this placement needs to be a mother but that was probably always like a really strong desire for you and the moon is a wave so like there's always highs and lows right it controls the ocean next prime
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And also just the moon experiences all range of emotions. Wherever we all have the moon somewhere and we – you can look at a chart and be like, okay, that's an area that is going to be emotional because that's the moon. So because you have the moon in the fifth house, it's going to feel the highest of highs and the lowest of lows.
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E915 – Going Deeper with Ally Lewber
So I just want like even like the experience that you just had, just trusting like you have river. There's still like so –
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so much nurturing that you're meant to do in this lifetime like you are a mother like that's just I don't know so I just wanted you to know that because there's absolutely if you are like if you guys are going to try again to the moon in the fifth house is like that's a special spot for you yay children okay also you're just going to be a great mom in general like even with river and your friends you know yeah um okay but then you're a Virgo son and you have your son in the second house the second house is the house of work hard play hard
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Like we like nice things in the second house. This is where we like eat the fine food, drink the fine wine, travel, luxury, good taste. Yes. This is where purses live literally. And it's in Virgo. So like also earth sign, love the green, like earth energy, especially Virgo. It's just very timeless, classic, uh, head on your shoulders, like loyal and just like hardworking.
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but play like that's the thing with the second house is it really and so the sun is where we shine so i'm glad that you like also just by the way you have leo mercury leo mercury is like i'm performing i'm on broadway okay like you are a star natalie literally you are a star you have venus also in leo and you have mars and leo and it's all in your first house of being seen in this lifetime so like
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i don't know i just what does that mean you're meant to be like a movie star oh listen i've been saying since i met her she's the real star in this literally yeah like yeah and my chart is here to prove it i think you were always definitely even like being in la i always call like leo like the new york city sign like it's pulling you out into the world um but leo's they just want to make people happy they enjoy performing they enjoy art there was a
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And moving like forward from that night, I definitely now look back and I see things from a different perspective, you know, where like obviously that night I was just so upset about the lying and the drinking. And like, you know, in my head, I was like, well, we're already done because you've betrayed my trust, you know.
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No, like literally when I pulled up your chart, cause I honestly was expecting you to have some Leo somewhere, but like, it's you. I was like, okay. Yeah. Like you are, you are really here to shine in this lifetime. Like that's your rising sign. So she's a Leo rising. So like everywhere you go, it's as if you think of you as like you're the sun because Leo's ruled by the sun. Literally.
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And you just make people feel happy and warm and like they want to be in the sun. Haters. I'm not a raging bitch.
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She is magnetic. No, like, the first time even meeting you. Like, it makes sense. Because I just remember being like, oh, my God, like, you're so beautiful. And, like, just easy to talk to. And also, like, being in the sun and just, like, being in warmth is important to you, too. Yes, I do love the tan. What else is fun? Okay, you have Jupiter and Pisces in your eighth house.
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that's very intuitive jupiter is the planet of expansion and opportunities but like wherever jupiter is in our birth chart that's where we have like natural gifts and talents and the eighth house is i call it the haunted house because like that's where we go into that like most people don't want to go into the haunted house but like if you have a placement in the eighth it's like you want to go in or you're going in regardless so you might might as well enjoy it it's where we do see like some clairvoyancy psychic abilities very spiritual
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also uh therapy and like healing so being able to just even do stuff like this right and like talk deeper and have like deeper connections you're going deep in this lifetime but always trust your intuition wow yeah yeah what else can you tell us about our daughter future he's like that's enough about natalie
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wrap that up and wrap it up i'm just kidding oh i was gonna say too but jupiter in the eighth the eighth house i call it the haunted house because there is like it can feel unfair that's where we can see things like abusive relationships trauma death like i have a lot of planets in the eighth house too and like i lost my dad when i was younger the eighth house is where we kind of have to experience like the shit end of the stick sometimes but we grow from it and like that way so much trauma yeah
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And by the way, no, that's such a good, cause like, For people watching, if they're like, oh, I have Jupiter in the eighth house or like, is my parent going to die? It's like, no, I've seen plenty of people with eighth house placements that have not experienced that.
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Yeah, that's kind of the fun debate of astrology where it's like we can sit there. And that's why also every astrologer has a different take. And I believe in positive thinking, right? And like putting good energy out into the world. So like I always try to view everything as like the first thing I said, oh my God, you have Jupiter in the eighth. Like you're really intuitive.
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And he also knew that I already had told him before, like, hey, if you drink again, that's a non-negotiable for me for this relationship.
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But then it's like, OK, I remember what we were just talking about. And I'm like, let's be real, though. The eighth house comes with a bit of cobwebs. That's why it's the haunted house. It's like it's a little dark. But Jupiter naturally is such a positive planet that it's like whatever you go through is going to benefit your life in some way later on, whether that's like
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You're able to help other people or whatever. And also, like, even from your own childhood, like, whenever we see you have the sun in the second house conjunct the north node, our purpose point. It's like you were always very independent and almost had to parent yourself and, like, be your own strength. Yeah. And again, with the moon in the fifth house, right? Because, like, now...
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Yeah, I look at the aspects. So communication is honestly really key for both of you guys. You have, where is next? Mercury. Yeah. I wish I did your guys' synastry chart or composite chart. We can do that though another time.
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You can be hard on yourself with the work that you do. Bit of perfectionist. You have Saturn in the 10th house, which means delays also within the working world. But Saturn is the planet of mastery. So trust that good things within your career, it takes time. Even literally like what you just said with like, that's not what they're going to be calling you.
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And months from now is very funny because Saturn in the 10th, you're hard on yourself, but that's because you care and you want things to be good. You have the opposite. You have Mars in your 10th house. So yours is like you're speeding through. It's like, I've got a lot to say. I'm just going to go. And it's a little more.
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There's more energy there where yours is more like... Anyway, that's for career though.
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Aquarius rising and the Libra, you're very air. So Libra and Aquarius are both air signs. So that the definition is literally aloof. And airhead. And yeah, it's like, we're kind of like up in the clouds.
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and we're thinking about a million different things guys I'm up in the clouds it's like you're like eating dinner someone's asking you about your day and you're like do you think that like aliens are real and like what is really real someone could be talking to me and they think I'm there and I'm like I'm in outer space right now
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like yes he's in the clouds yep you know i'm out at lunch for sure that's yeah so that's air energy and you have a lot of that and then you have virgo right so like in general virgos are the organized like perfection ones so that is probably that that difference there are libra and virgos compatible so with compatibility okay this is going to be a take i don't really believe in that
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i think okay well that's not true i believe though that we're all compatible um not in the sense that like obviously you're attracted to who you're attracted to but like that speaks for itself that kind of goes back to with like we don't need to use astrology for everything but it sounds like almost there's so much information we could get from these charts that there's probably with every couple points of compatibility and points of incompatibility and how any couple chooses to
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So like you guys found each other. Now we look at the chart and we can see, okay, what can we work on? And like, what's great. You guys are both building really an empire together. You both have really lovely 10th house placements and like star power. So like your career is really important. But I've seen charts of people who got divorced that had beautiful compatibility.
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And then I've seen charts of people that are still together with like, not by textbook, like the best compatibility. So it really just depends on how willing you are to work on yourself.
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honestly, like not physically, but verbal, manic, like just really, really loud and like intense and just like sporadic behavior where it's like, you don't really know what this person is capable of or going to do. It's not necessarily like
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Honestly, she's kind of like going to parent you guys eventually. She has Saturn in the sixth house. It is in Pisces. She's very hardworking. Not yet, obviously. But like one day she will be. I feel like she's going to carry on your guys' legacy, to be honest.
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Well, luckily for you, she has her son in the fifth house, which again, the sun is where we shine. And the fifth house is the house of entertainment, movies, music, sports. It's like the entertainment house. So I was going to say, but like, that's just where my head goes first, right? It's like movies, but like she could very well be an athlete. Yeah.
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Or have a bit of a, she's performing in some aspect. She's going to do something that she enjoys. She's not going to do probably like accounting. Like she's going to be more in like the arts and like entertainment. Also, she's a Libra rising. So they're usually just drawn to like literally poetry, beautiful things. She's going to have such good taste. No. That she gets for you.
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That's your second house placement. There we go. Something.
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No, yeah, she does. Yeah. You have the second house. Is it your moon? No, sun. So, yeah. And yeah, your son is in the second house. So like that's where you shine. You're proud of. I mean, your guys' home is so beautiful. I remember like when I first met you and you would like post and I'd be like, what? How did you do that? Remember, I lime washed because of you. Oh, yeah.
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I was obsessed. So that was from you. That sun in the second house. It's like she shines there. So people get inspo from you. And your daughter has her moon in the second house.
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Totally. So that is, I think I told you guys, yeah, I was like already, I was honestly dreading last December, like the previous January. Like I knew the December for James and I was going to be super telling and wild and really test our relationship.
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So then when everything fell apart as sad as I, like I was heartbroken, but the other part of me, and this is why I love astrology is it does remind me like, okay, one, this is just weather, like it'll pass. Like we always go through eclipse season and like there's always crazy astrology happening and then there's always beautiful astrology happening. Like it's just weather. It'll pass.
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a safe feeling but that's again like that's just why with that relationship like looking back now like just the eggshell like walking on eggshells in that relationship because you never know what's gonna trigger him that was like the hardest part Which now that I'm like out of that relationship, I'm like, oh, this is what it's like to have like a normal.
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It was meant to be. I believe that our bird chart is all about like getting in alignment with your higher good and like where you're meant to be and it's all lessons. So that like mindset helps me a lot. And then with me personally, like I know I have Saturn in the first house.
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So I do have to work on setting boundaries for myself and not, you know, and this is something like for future Allie to consider is like slow down and like pay attention to red flags and set boundaries for yourself. Yeah. So to be a little bit more like trusting my own schedule and timing of things.
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keep things positive or put a positive spin on things has clouded your judgment in the past probably yeah but i honestly like then maybe this is wrong but i it's fine it's i'm like i'm like i'm fine with it because at the end of the day Thank you.
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Yeah, I think that I don't know if I like felt scared to the point where I felt like he was like I was unsafe. Yeah. But to the point where I'm like, this isn't, I don't know. I feel like sometimes, like in the moment at least, I thought that I could like regulate him or control him or like help calm him down.
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Thank you for watching. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
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So I felt like I kind of took on that role of like, it's okay, like calm down, like everything will be all right. And that's not healthy, I don't think. You shouldn't have to like regulate someone, right?
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I thought there'd maybe be someone else next to me. Yeah. Yeah.
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yeah that was really difficult in the beginning I mean heck even now where you know this was just back in December and obviously I got out of that relationship but it's not like I just left and it was easy it wasn't and I felt really guilty like oh well now he's going to AA and like he does have alcoholism so like do I need to be there for him and support him like
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He definitely, he's not a podcast person. Yeah. I don't think it would have happened to be honest.
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No, but like at that moment, I didn't know that. I felt really bad and guilty. I'm really grateful for like my mom and just my support system in LA because I don't know if I would have been strong enough to leave and to stay away. Honestly, like I...
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i don't know if i would have been or not so like i feel like that's another point too is just like and if you're ever in like a relationship like that or something like in a weird way i'm kind of grateful almost that it was so public because it allowed it was like out there and then my friends and family were able to really like you know it's like you had strangers kind of holding you accountable to like not yeah which sounds crazy had there been episodes or events in the past with james
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Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah, there were... Yeah, like, there were a few. I mean, and I think I get, like, even, you know, sometimes my friends would witness him just acting kind of, you know, a little manic, I would say. I don't know if that's, like, the right word to use. I'm not, like...
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putting a disorder on him or anything but just that behavior where it's just unpredictable you're like okay where is this coming from and like how do we stop it immediately um yeah so there were moments like that and yeah like looking back And that's kind of why, too, like he knew how I felt about him drinking because like that's usually what would kind of spark that behavior.
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So he knew like I wouldn't put up with him drinking again.
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Totally. Totally. Yep. And then even, I mean, he's a DJ, right? So like he's traveling on the weekends. I'm not always there. And then he's at these events and DJing and drinking. And then he would like always go back to the hotel and we would like FaceTime and chat. And he would be like, I could just tell sometimes. He'd be like, you drink. And then he'd be like, no, I didn't.
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You always think that I'm drunk when it was you. You're drinking. Kind of like gaslighting in a way.
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Yeah. But I also never actually thought he was drinking. I would like he was really good at like, yeah, like I'd be like, oh, of course you're not drunk. I'm so sorry. Like, that's so fucked up of me to think that. So then like looking back and after all of this, I'd be like, OK, Halloween, when we went to Sir, were you drinking? He's like, yeah.
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It's like, OK, it's like I was going back to these dates and kind of asking. And I'm not even mad at him for that. It sucks. Like, you know what I mean? It's he wishes that we were still together. He wishes I'm sure that he didn't do all of that. You know what I mean? It's like I don't blame him. I'm not mad at him. It's just the way that it has to be now.
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I want to say, like, it's so hard because James has been in my ear, not now, but, you know, for our relationship, obviously. And I've heard a lot from the rest of the cast. Mutually, that was just a very toxic relationship on both parties. So I don't really want to say anything.
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anything but I will say that and I have to say this but also like it's true but like I always will believe women and I do feel kind of guilty or bad and I I shouldn't I'm not going to take that on myself but you know sometimes it is like oh like they were right. Or like, oh, these people saying all these things about James's behavior.