Ali
Appearances
Sea of Lies from Uncover
S31 E7: Club no one wanted to join | The Banned Teacher
Yeah. the interview slash interrogation where it was just my guidance counselor had photocopied all of her notes. and spread them out in duplicate around the table. So everybody sitting at the table had copies of what I had thought was a private session with my guidance counselor, and there was nothing redacted, or it wasn't as though she only shared a relevant portion.
Sea of Lies from Uncover
S31 E7: Club no one wanted to join | The Banned Teacher
So, you know, there was a lot going on. My parents were splitting up. I'd had a lot of issues at the time. And it was just all there on the table for all these... middle-aged men to see and judge and make me feel judged. And I was absolutely, there's no other word for it, but slut-shamed. Yeah. Yeah.
Sea of Lies from Uncover
S31 E7: Club no one wanted to join | The Banned Teacher
That's what you said on a Zoom call when you said to me, It's not our shame. It's his shame. Yeah.
Sea of Lies from Uncover
S31 E7: Club no one wanted to join | The Banned Teacher
He was very, very emotional about this piece called Man and Bean. And he closes his eyes and gets very swept into it and gets teary-eyed when he conducts that. So I know that was his big, big finish that night. Yeah. He was 39. I cannot imagine getting sexually involved with a 17-year-old. Ali was that 17-year-old. I just wanted to get through this year. And I was having trouble attending classes.
Sea of Lies from Uncover
S31 E7: Club no one wanted to join | The Banned Teacher
Other than the one confrontation that I had with him in the hallway when I told him that I had gone to my guidance counselor, I never spoke to him. I didn't speak to him again. None of us had the impression that the administration should have taken greater legal steps. We were all just... horrified that they just moved him to another school.
Sea of Lies from Uncover
S31 E7: Club no one wanted to join | The Banned Teacher
You know, I heard a rumor about the European trip, that he had done something with a girl on the European trip about six years before I was there. It was just gossip.
Sea of Lies from Uncover
S31 E7: Club no one wanted to join | The Banned Teacher
I mean, none of us had any idea what we were dealing with here. I thought it was just me and maybe this other girl, and I just wanted to forget it.
Sea of Lies from Uncover
S31 E7: Club no one wanted to join | The Banned Teacher
You know, he made me feel terrible that he was leaving the school, that he was taking a demotion, that, you know, what was he going to tell his wife?
Sea of Lies from Uncover
S31 E7: Club no one wanted to join | The Banned Teacher
And then we found her. I just think it's amazing. You knew that there had to be. We heard. There had to be a she. It wasn't just, oh, he was transferring, he was deciding. No, no, no.
Sea of Lies from Uncover
S31 E7: Club no one wanted to join | The Banned Teacher
They transferred him.
Sea of Lies from Uncover
S31 E7: Club no one wanted to join | The Banned Teacher
Yeah, they transferred him. They transferred. They demoted him.
Sea of Lies from Uncover
S31 E7: Club no one wanted to join | The Banned Teacher
And then, as you say, I had no idea. A year later? A year later, he's the head of music again?
Sea of Lies from Uncover
S31 E7: Club no one wanted to join | The Banned Teacher
I don't think I was attending rehearsals anymore. I just did what I had to do to get it over with because there was no way for me to not be in the band and participate in the concert without my parents asking why. But I was at the concert, yeah. And then it was just going to be over.
Sea of Lies from Uncover
S31 E7: Club no one wanted to join | The Banned Teacher
How do you feel about this fellowship that now exists?
Sea of Lies from Uncover
S31 E7: Club no one wanted to join | The Banned Teacher
I feel so, first, empowered. Second, supported. And third, angry. And fourth, sad.
Sea of Lies from Uncover
S31 E7: Club no one wanted to join | The Banned Teacher
Or should I start out with what makes you sad?
Sea of Lies from Uncover
S31 E7: Club no one wanted to join | The Banned Teacher
It's a long time to feel bad about something and to feel like you're alone.
Sea of Lies from Uncover
S31 E7: Club no one wanted to join | The Banned Teacher
How do you feel about not being alone anymore? Much better. Much better.
Sea of Lies from Uncover
S31 E7: Club no one wanted to join | The Banned Teacher
It was not a good time. It was not a good time in my life.
Sea of Lies from Uncover
S31 E7: Club no one wanted to join | The Banned Teacher
Yeah. I was 16 when I moved to the school and started in his class. I'm 17 when this happened. Yeah. So you had to go to the school for another two years after that?
Sea of Lies from Uncover
S31 E7: Club no one wanted to join | The Banned Teacher
Yes, I did. Did your parents ever find out?
Sea of Lies from Uncover
S31 E7: Club no one wanted to join | The Banned Teacher
Yeah. And you were... A sisterhood. A blipsterhood.
Sea of Lies from Uncover
S31 E7: Club no one wanted to join | The Banned Teacher
They're helping reframe something that I didn't even realize needed to be reframed. But when you can't look people in the eye and you can't talk about something without crying, clearly it's not completely processed.
Sea of Lies from Uncover
S31 E7: Club no one wanted to join | The Banned Teacher
But that's okay. That's okay to, you know, these things didn't happen to me.
Sea of Lies from Uncover
S31 E7: Club no one wanted to join | The Banned Teacher
But it's good. It's good. It's good to be asked the questions, and it's good to go through the memories, and it's good to share them because, yeah, it really is a very, very isolating experience.
Sea of Lies from Uncover
S31 E7: Club no one wanted to join | The Banned Teacher
Okay. And you have a book?
Sea of Lies from Uncover
S31 E7: Club no one wanted to join | The Banned Teacher
Three weeks after I reported him. So he would have just found out that he'll be leaving the school and this was going to be his last concert at the school.
Sea of Lies from Uncover
S31 E7: Club no one wanted to join | The Banned Teacher
No, we're not talking left.
Sea of Lies from Uncover
S31 E7: Club no one wanted to join | The Banned Teacher
I had two at mine in one year. You know, my girlfriend and myself.
Sea of Lies from Uncover
S31 E7: Club no one wanted to join | The Banned Teacher
He always called me Jellabate.
Sea of Lies from Uncover
S31 E7: Club no one wanted to join | The Banned Teacher
Did he actually say that?
Sea of Lies from Uncover
S31 E7: Club no one wanted to join | The Banned Teacher
He called me Jellabate all the time. He would say, come here, Jellabate. He'd take me by the hand in the cafeteria, pull me out of the cafeteria into the auditorium and say, come on in here, I'm going to rape you. And I'm. When I met him, 13. What? What did you say to that? Well, it was like a joke. This was the charm.
Sea of Lies from Uncover
S31 E7: Club no one wanted to join | The Banned Teacher
You know, this was the whole, ha ha, he wasn't really going to do that, of course. But then you get in this auditorium that was saved for performances where nobody else was and it was dark and nobody's there.
Sea of Lies from Uncover
S31 E7: Club no one wanted to join | The Banned Teacher
And, you know, he was sitting uncomfortably close and would put his arm around you and he'd have some, I can't even remember what he dragged me in there to talk about because, of course, it was nothing.
Sea of Lies from Uncover
S31 E7: Club no one wanted to join | The Banned Teacher
Hands down my top, hands down my pants, and I'm 14. But he did not rape me.
Sea of Lies from Uncover
S31 E7: Club no one wanted to join | The Banned Teacher
Because there had to be a line because I was jailed.
Sea of Lies from Uncover
S31 E7: Club no one wanted to join | The Banned Teacher
He'll touch you in a way that is a grown man way to touch you. And he knows how to touch you. And he knows how to make your body respond. And then you feel shite. Because why am I having these feelings and why I must want it if blah, blah, blah, you know?
Sea of Lies from Uncover
S31 E7: Club no one wanted to join | The Banned Teacher
But you think it does. But it's also hard to dial back and find your innocence again. Do you know what I mean?
Sea of Lies from Uncover
S31 E7: Club no one wanted to join | The Banned Teacher
She's got talent, this woman.
Sea of Lies from Uncover
S31 E7: Club no one wanted to join | The Banned Teacher
The spoons are not so helpful with noodles. No, but we can use our first before we lick them.
Sea of Lies from Uncover
S31 E7: Club no one wanted to join | The Banned Teacher
There's a vegetarian pad thai and a chicken pad thai. The noodles are vegetarian, and that's a basil chicken. And these noodles are the kulch.
Sea of Lies from Uncover
S31 E7: Club no one wanted to join | The Banned Teacher
But Chiffon knows the punch story too. Had it not been for the punch in the face, I might not have known at that point what had happened, right?
Sea of Lies from Uncover
S31 E7: Club no one wanted to join | The Banned Teacher
Here's a sequence of events. I know what happened on the band trip because I shared a bed with her.
Sea of Lies from Uncover
S31 E7: Club no one wanted to join | The Banned Teacher
Even now, her dad is this tall, handsome, strong guy out of a movie.
Sea of Lies from Uncover
S31 E7: Club no one wanted to join | The Banned Teacher
He did everything he could for his daughter, and I'm like, I love you for that, and I swear I should just write him a note and just pop it in the mailbox. We should tell him how we all feel. And I should just tell him that there were, because he would have known.
Sea of Lies from Uncover
S31 E7: Club no one wanted to join | The Banned Teacher
It's like now I'm a member of a really bad club. But I'm so glad I came because it's healing. I just get angry that what brought us together was him.
Sea of Lies from Uncover
S31 E7: Club no one wanted to join | The Banned Teacher
But look how fantastic we are and we would never have met if it weren't for this awful situation.
Sea of Lies from Uncover
S31 E7: Club no one wanted to join | The Banned Teacher
Just this feeling of anger that he was able to do this to so many people.
Sea of Lies from Uncover
S31 E7: Club no one wanted to join | The Banned Teacher
Now I'm a member of a really bad club, and I just get angry that what brought us together was him.
Sea of Lies from Uncover
S31 E7: Club no one wanted to join | The Banned Teacher
I'm back in Toronto. It's a hot July afternoon. Beyond this front door and the two dogs and a cat is a group of women I've come to know very well, but mostly from a distance. This is not very nice wrapping, but that's for you. I wish you hadn't eaten. We have so much food.
Sea of Lies from Uncover
S31 E7: Club no one wanted to join | The Banned Teacher
I did. I had something. Can I get you something to drink?
Sea of Lies from Uncover
S31 E7: Club no one wanted to join | The Banned Teacher
So when did you get into town? Last night. She came to my house last night?
Sea of Lies from Uncover
S31 E7: Club no one wanted to join | The Banned Teacher
It is a cassette tape from 1987.
Sea of Lies from Uncover
S31 E7: Club no one wanted to join | The Banned Teacher
Julie, can I read you something I read to them before? I had a conversation with him when we were at the Fine Arts Museum on the Montreal band trip and we were having a disagreement about something.
Sea of Lies from Uncover
S31 E7: Club no one wanted to join | The Banned Teacher
And, um, He said to me, you know, it wouldn't take much for me to lose control. Sometimes it's hard for me to remember that I'm 39 years old and your teacher. There are a lot of attractive and sexy girls in the band, and you and your roommates are among them.
Sea of Lies from Uncover
S31 E7: Club no one wanted to join | The Banned Teacher
Yeah, and I'd forgotten some things, but of course, as soon as you read it, you're just like, oh my God, I remember. I remember...
Sea of Lies from Uncover
S31 E7: Club no one wanted to join | The Banned Teacher
I had one friend who apparently came and retrieved me from his room.
Sea of Lies from Uncover
S31 E7: Club no one wanted to join | The Banned Teacher
We were staying four people to a room. So all the people I was staying with that night knew what happened. And, I mean, all my friends in the band knew. They knew what happened.
Sea of Lies from Uncover
S31 E7: Club no one wanted to join | The Banned Teacher
I just felt like I was so sick the next morning. I mean, I was obviously extremely hungover, but I mean, I was sick. from an emotional perspective. And he came onto the bus and, well, the last thing he said to me the night before, before I left his room was that, I hope you still remember this tomorrow. Because he knew I was so inebriated.
Sea of Lies from Uncover
S31 E7: Club no one wanted to join | The Banned Teacher
And the next morning on the bus, he came and he chucked me under the chin and he's like, And how are you doing today? And I felt physically ill. I couldn't even look at him. And I turned into the window of the bus. And I just spent the whole bus ride home curled into the window. And when I went back to school, I went to see the guidance counselor.
Sea of Lies from Uncover
S31 E7: Club no one wanted to join | The Banned Teacher
And my specific words were, what could I tell you that you wouldn't be able to keep confidential? And she said, unless you're going to hurt yourself or someone else. There's nothing you could tell me that I would have to tell anybody else. It'll be between you and me. And so I told her everything. And she wouldn't let me go back to class. She kept me in her office for the whole afternoon.
Sea of Lies from Uncover
S31 E7: Club no one wanted to join | The Banned Teacher
And I told her everything about the trip. I told her about the drinking. I told her about him losing his temper. I told her everything.
Sea of Lies from Uncover
S31 E7: Club no one wanted to join | The Banned Teacher
And then the next day, I think... I can't quite remember. She pulled me out of class. She said, yeah, I didn't realize this, but I'm going to have to report this. And you're going to have to meet with the principal and the superintendent. And we're going to have to talk to Doug Walker. And then she said, or you can do it. And so I had to go and tell him that I had told him.
Sea of Lies from Uncover
S31 E7: Club no one wanted to join | The Banned Teacher
June 2nd, 1987, and it was our final day. band concert at the Markham Theatre.
Sea of Lies from Uncover
S31 E7: Club no one wanted to join | The Banned Teacher
Then I started skipping school, and my guidance counselor came and picked me up from my friend's house and dragged me back to school and then forced me to speak with the superintendent. And, yeah, it was all just really distressing.
Sea of Lies from Uncover
S31 E7: Club no one wanted to join | The Banned Teacher
Humiliating. It was humiliating. It was humiliating over and over and over and over. It was humiliating on the trip and after the trip and the next year.
Sea of Lies from Uncover
S31 E7: Club no one wanted to join | The Banned Teacher
Yeah, it's just shameful.
Sea of Lies from Uncover
S31 E7: Club no one wanted to join | The Banned Teacher
But did you suggest to them maybe you should go to the police and they said something? Like, how did that... Oh, my God.
Sea of Lies from Uncover
S31 E7: Club no one wanted to join | The Banned Teacher
The police never, never came into it. It never crossed my mind there was a legal component to this ever. Because I just thought I was beyond... I was a few days after my 17th birthday. So I thought, well, I'm far beyond the
Sea of Lies from Uncover
S31 E7: Club no one wanted to join | The Banned Teacher
age of consent and I just I never occurred to me that the police could be involved so when she said I have to report it I just knew she was talking about the principal and I was worried I was worried about not being able to finish the year I was worried about them my main concern was I'm telling my parents and I said please don't tell my parents and they made me sign something some sort of release so that they wouldn't tell my parents
Sea of Lies from Uncover
S31 E7: Club no one wanted to join | The Banned Teacher
Yeah, there's a couple of songs here that I think really meant something to Doug Walker, and that's why he included them. I know the RAF March Past would be connected to his history with the Royals.
Sea of Lies from Uncover
S31 E7: Club no one wanted to join | The Banned Teacher
And how did Doug treat you after you had to go and tell him that you had told the administrators?
Sea of Lies from Uncover
S31 E7: Club no one wanted to join | The Banned Teacher
Well, I started off by saying, I mean, I hadn't been to his class, and I said, listen, I'm so upset about what happened. I can't be in the band anymore. And he goes, I know. He interrupted me, and he said something like, I know, I know. I'm so upset by it, too. I'm so upset by it. I'm going to leave the school.
Sea of Lies from Uncover
S31 E7: Club no one wanted to join | The Banned Teacher
And I said, well, I've already spoken to my guidance counselor and she's told Mr. Nicky Fork. And he said, you what? Mr. Nicky Fork was the school principal. Ali says Walker was upset. And he goes, what am I going to tell my wife? And his eyes filled with tears and he started crying. We were in the hallway outside the music room. And I don't remember anything. much more of the conversation.
Sea of Lies from Uncover
S31 E7: Club no one wanted to join | The Banned Teacher
I was shaking, and I can't remember why. Like, for some reason, I had to be the one to tell him. Or they did give me a choice. But, yeah, he was just really upset and then very cold.
Sea of Lies from Uncover
S31 E9: If they were boys | The Banned Teacher
I decided to try my hand at composing something that represented finding light and hope and love after a period of great darkness, which I think could apply to a lot of different situations.
The Viall Files
E900 - Debating w/ Heather McDonald, LIB w/ Sara, Temptation Island w/ Mark Walberg, Bachelor WTA, & RHOBH
No, I love Leah.
The Viall Files
E900 - Debating w/ Heather McDonald, LIB w/ Sara, Temptation Island w/ Mark Walberg, Bachelor WTA, & RHOBH
Leah's point about Carolina.
The Viall Files
E900 - Debating w/ Heather McDonald, LIB w/ Sara, Temptation Island w/ Mark Walberg, Bachelor WTA, & RHOBH
It makes sense for Netflix more than Peacock to me.
The Viall Files
E900 - Debating w/ Heather McDonald, LIB w/ Sara, Temptation Island w/ Mark Walberg, Bachelor WTA, & RHOBH
He should make them pay for sessions. He's really therapizing.
The Viall Files
E900 - Debating w/ Heather McDonald, LIB w/ Sara, Temptation Island w/ Mark Walberg, Bachelor WTA, & RHOBH
I think since Linktree happened, the need for a business card has kind of become irrelevant.
The Viall Files
E900 - Debating w/ Heather McDonald, LIB w/ Sara, Temptation Island w/ Mark Walberg, Bachelor WTA, & RHOBH
Linktree, you know when you're on someone's Instagram profile, it's like link and buy. You hit it, you get everything you need.
The Viall Files
E900 - Debating w/ Heather McDonald, LIB w/ Sara, Temptation Island w/ Mark Walberg, Bachelor WTA, & RHOBH
Yeah. It's the thing that binds everyone together.
The Viall Files
E900 - Debating w/ Heather McDonald, LIB w/ Sara, Temptation Island w/ Mark Walberg, Bachelor WTA, & RHOBH
Yeah, but it's, so it's the Ghost Adventures wife was arrested for allegedly hiring a hitman to kill him instead of just getting a divorce.
The Viall Files
E900 - Debating w/ Heather McDonald, LIB w/ Sara, Temptation Island w/ Mark Walberg, Bachelor WTA, & RHOBH
Yeah, you know exactly what's going on. I think it's a great concept because you know exactly what's happening while you're there. It's not like you're going to wait. Or do you? I mean, they show enough. I guess you know what they show, but they're showing the crazy stuff, right?
The Viall Files
E900 - Debating w/ Heather McDonald, LIB w/ Sara, Temptation Island w/ Mark Walberg, Bachelor WTA, & RHOBH
No, Taylor's the girl. Tyler's the guy.
The Viall Files
E900 - Debating w/ Heather McDonald, LIB w/ Sara, Temptation Island w/ Mark Walberg, Bachelor WTA, & RHOBH
Which one is Logan?
The Viall Files
E900 - Debating w/ Heather McDonald, LIB w/ Sara, Temptation Island w/ Mark Walberg, Bachelor WTA, & RHOBH
I don't know how you guys feel, but I personally hope that everyone is, like, nice to the tempters and temptresses. I'm like, they're just there.
The Viall Files
E900 - Debating w/ Heather McDonald, LIB w/ Sara, Temptation Island w/ Mark Walberg, Bachelor WTA, & RHOBH
Don't feel guilty. I just couldn't agree more. I do have one question that I wish we would have asked Mark, which is why are all the guys wearing those necklaces?
The Viall Files
E900 - Debating w/ Heather McDonald, LIB w/ Sara, Temptation Island w/ Mark Walberg, Bachelor WTA, & RHOBH
Oh, but why don't the girls have them? Because they're like attached to their bra strap.
The Viall Files
E900 - Debating w/ Heather McDonald, LIB w/ Sara, Temptation Island w/ Mark Walberg, Bachelor WTA, & RHOBH
Never mind. Sorry, I don't understand TV production. Obviously, I'm dumb. Let's continue.
The Viall Files
E900 - Debating w/ Heather McDonald, LIB w/ Sara, Temptation Island w/ Mark Walberg, Bachelor WTA, & RHOBH
I mean, obviously the hitman wasn't that good.
The Viall Files
E900 - Debating w/ Heather McDonald, LIB w/ Sara, Temptation Island w/ Mark Walberg, Bachelor WTA, & RHOBH
Wow. Well, Zach Bryan has a girlfriend.
The Viall Files
E900 - Debating w/ Heather McDonald, LIB w/ Sara, Temptation Island w/ Mark Walberg, Bachelor WTA, & RHOBH
Hannah Duncan. He posted a picture on Tuesday with an Australian model on a beach looking at the waves as the sun rose.
The Viall Files
E900 - Debating w/ Heather McDonald, LIB w/ Sara, Temptation Island w/ Mark Walberg, Bachelor WTA, & RHOBH
He did because the caption said, nothing like a 6 a.m. half marathon. A-E-H-H question mark at Hannah Duncan.
The Viall Files
E900 - Debating w/ Heather McDonald, LIB w/ Sara, Temptation Island w/ Mark Walberg, Bachelor WTA, & RHOBH
Maybe.
The Viall Files
E900 - Debating w/ Heather McDonald, LIB w/ Sara, Temptation Island w/ Mark Walberg, Bachelor WTA, & RHOBH
Do you often just walk on a beach and meet a beautiful young Australian model? That's never happened to me. But I'm also not Zach Ryan.
The Viall Files
E900 - Debating w/ Heather McDonald, LIB w/ Sara, Temptation Island w/ Mark Walberg, Bachelor WTA, & RHOBH
i don't know but i've been a i've been a sarah girl since the beginning she was always my favorite so i'm glad she's getting offline and doing her thing well we'll see it doesn't sound like she's very offline right now but i hope she starts getting offline uh well that'll
The Viall Files
E900 - Debating w/ Heather McDonald, LIB w/ Sara, Temptation Island w/ Mark Walberg, Bachelor WTA, & RHOBH
Maybe she doesn't know about it. Come on.
The Viall Files
E900 - Debating w/ Heather McDonald, LIB w/ Sara, Temptation Island w/ Mark Walberg, Bachelor WTA, & RHOBH
It could be a thing of he's like, you know, people are going to speculate anyway. It might as well just come from like one of the people within the relationship.