Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez

So we are going to ask you what, you know, kind of tea you want, as opposed to calling it like it is, which I think sometimes is seen as a little more gauche.

I mean, there are rules and structures and orders in the Democratic Party. One that we know very well is seniority. And they, you know, it's like, it's a seniority rule type of system. And it is true. My run was, it was a challenging of an entire system. It wasn't just about me or about Like any, again, I think Jerry's great, but it wasn't just about two individuals.

I mean, there are rules and structures and orders in the Democratic Party. One that we know very well is seniority. And they, you know, it's like, it's a seniority rule type of system. And it is true. My run was, it was a challenging of an entire system. It wasn't just about me or about Like any, again, I think Jerry's great, but it wasn't just about two individuals.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah. You know, but it was about challenging a system and a system and a way of making decisions in the party. And the problem with that is that when you challenge the way that Democrats, when you ask Democrats sometimes to challenge the way that they've been operating for decades, I mean, it's existential in some ways. Like if we don't make decisions like this, What could we possibly do?

Yeah. You know, but it was about challenging a system and a system and a way of making decisions in the party. And the problem with that is that when you challenge the way that Democrats, when you ask Democrats sometimes to challenge the way that they've been operating for decades, I mean, it's existential in some ways. Like if we don't make decisions like this, What could we possibly do?

What would result?

What would result?

Yeah. And not only that, but the other thing that makes it dangerous is that it makes us remarkably predictable. It makes the Democratic Party highly predictable in the decisions it's going to make, in the people that we're going to select, in the type of people we advance in the way that we make decisions.

Yeah. And not only that, but the other thing that makes it dangerous is that it makes us remarkably predictable. It makes the Democratic Party highly predictable in the decisions it's going to make, in the people that we're going to select, in the type of people we advance in the way that we make decisions.

And when we are highly predictable to the opposition, they will be one, two, four steps ahead. They know what Democrats are going to do.

And when we are highly predictable to the opposition, they will be one, two, four steps ahead. They know what Democrats are going to do.

I think both. I think they know what we're going to do politically. They know how we position ourselves, even within internal squabbles, you know, when There's a progressive or whatever you may want to say about it. They kind of can map us out. And because of that, they're able to operate around that. They'll say, oh, yeah, they're going to do that or they're not going to do that.

I think both. I think they know what we're going to do politically. They know how we position ourselves, even within internal squabbles, you know, when There's a progressive or whatever you may want to say about it. They kind of can map us out. And because of that, they're able to operate around that. They'll say, oh, yeah, they're going to do that or they're not going to do that.

There was never any question about who or who wouldn't show up to the inauguration, for example. Or how they would be received, I think. And they know that. And so they're able to, you know, to your point, Trump is able to run roughshod through these things because he knows, he has a lot of the party's number in terms of how they're going to operate.

There was never any question about who or who wouldn't show up to the inauguration, for example. Or how they would be received, I think. And they know that. And so they're able to, you know, to your point, Trump is able to run roughshod through these things because he knows, he has a lot of the party's number in terms of how they're going to operate.

And I think that sometimes making certain calculated but unpredictable choices is a way that we can put ourselves, give ourselves the upper hand.

And I think that sometimes making certain calculated but unpredictable choices is a way that we can put ourselves, give ourselves the upper hand.

Exactly.