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Alex Karp

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All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Palantir CEO Alex Karp: Why the West is Destroying Itself, Data Empire, Skeptics, How to Win

which means the LLMs have an ability to do a taxonomy on your business but without touching the business, that you control where they're deployed, that they don't have access to your data, that you have immutable logs, and that you can measure the output against high fidelity data sets that can be viewed in any way permissible, and that the permissions are enforced.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Palantir CEO Alex Karp: Why the West is Destroying Itself, Data Empire, Skeptics, How to Win

So, hardest product in the world to abuse.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Palantir CEO Alex Karp: Why the West is Destroying Itself, Data Empire, Skeptics, How to Win

I'm telling you, we've never done anything like this.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Palantir CEO Alex Karp: Why the West is Destroying Itself, Data Empire, Skeptics, How to Win

Please verify, do not trust me.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Palantir CEO Alex Karp: Why the West is Destroying Itself, Data Empire, Skeptics, How to Win

Certainly do not trust the people.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Palantir CEO Alex Karp: Why the West is Destroying Itself, Data Empire, Skeptics, How to Win

By the way, as a rule, and the one thing I would say critical on the outside, do not trust anyone who's never built anything.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Palantir CEO Alex Karp: Why the West is Destroying Itself, Data Empire, Skeptics, How to Win

It's so easy to have all these opinions.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Palantir CEO Alex Karp: Why the West is Destroying Itself, Data Empire, Skeptics, How to Win

You have all these fucking opinions about how the world works, how data works, how businesses work, how we got off the ground.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Palantir CEO Alex Karp: Why the West is Destroying Itself, Data Empire, Skeptics, How to Win

I'm a conspiracy, somehow they gave it to me, but not you, even though like I'd be the least likely person to get, to sue the US government twice.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Palantir CEO Alex Karp: Why the West is Destroying Itself, Data Empire, Skeptics, How to Win

We had to hire the most important engineers in the world and be laughed and shat upon by the whole world for 20 years before anyone took it seriously because we were a conspiracy.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Palantir CEO Alex Karp: Why the West is Destroying Itself, Data Empire, Skeptics, How to Win

And so probably the people protesting me just have heard that they should protest me, but if you ask why could they have an argument or why should you like me, love me in some cases,

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Palantir CEO Alex Karp: Why the West is Destroying Itself, Data Empire, Skeptics, How to Win

And you know why people believe it?

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Palantir CEO Alex Karp: Why the West is Destroying Itself, Data Empire, Skeptics, How to Win

Because they've never had a job, they've never built anything.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Palantir CEO Alex Karp: Why the West is Destroying Itself, Data Empire, Skeptics, How to Win

And anyone who has, no, that's just not the way the world works.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Palantir CEO Alex Karp: Why the West is Destroying Itself, Data Empire, Skeptics, How to Win

For me to succeed, just like for you to succeed, you're going to have to be 10x better than anyone else in the room or you will fail.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Palantir CEO Alex Karp: Why the West is Destroying Itself, Data Empire, Skeptics, How to Win

And that's true for me.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Palantir CEO Alex Karp: Why the West is Destroying Itself, Data Empire, Skeptics, How to Win

That's true for you.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Palantir CEO Alex Karp: Why the West is Destroying Itself, Data Empire, Skeptics, How to Win

That's true for every American.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Palantir CEO Alex Karp: Why the West is Destroying Itself, Data Empire, Skeptics, How to Win

It's always been true.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Palantir CEO Alex Karp: Why the West is Destroying Itself, Data Empire, Skeptics, How to Win

Sorry, sorry, I got to get to this.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Palantir CEO Alex Karp: Why the West is Destroying Itself, Data Empire, Skeptics, How to Win

And anyone who tells you, anyone, anyone, anyone who tells you that's not true is you are the mark.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Palantir CEO Alex Karp: Why the West is Destroying Itself, Data Empire, Skeptics, How to Win

You are the mark.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Palantir CEO Alex Karp: Why the West is Destroying Itself, Data Empire, Skeptics, How to Win

If you're being taught, and that's what I would tell the protesters or the college, you're the mark.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Palantir CEO Alex Karp: Why the West is Destroying Itself, Data Empire, Skeptics, How to Win

They're telling you, I'm succeeding because I just got it handed to me, and somehow it's unfair.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Palantir CEO Alex Karp: Why the West is Destroying Itself, Data Empire, Skeptics, How to Win

No, no one handed anything to anyone at Palantir.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Palantir CEO Alex Karp: Why the West is Destroying Itself, Data Empire, Skeptics, How to Win

PG is still the best product on the market.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Palantir CEO Alex Karp: Why the West is Destroying Itself, Data Empire, Skeptics, How to Win

No one even tries to compete it.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Palantir CEO Alex Karp: Why the West is Destroying Itself, Data Empire, Skeptics, How to Win

Foundry, go ahead, go try to build it.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Palantir CEO Alex Karp: Why the West is Destroying Itself, Data Empire, Skeptics, How to Win

Try to organize a team of people as good as Palantirians.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Palantir CEO Alex Karp: Why the West is Destroying Itself, Data Empire, Skeptics, How to Win

Go ahead, try.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Palantir CEO Alex Karp: Why the West is Destroying Itself, Data Empire, Skeptics, How to Win

Try, try to do it for 20 years.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Palantir CEO Alex Karp: Why the West is Destroying Itself, Data Empire, Skeptics, How to Win

Try to build a reasoning database.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Palantir CEO Alex Karp: Why the West is Destroying Itself, Data Empire, Skeptics, How to Win

Sorry, one second.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Palantir CEO Alex Karp: Why the West is Destroying Itself, Data Empire, Skeptics, How to Win

All I want to say is I'm glad you're on our side.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Palantir CEO Alex Karp: Why the West is Destroying Itself, Data Empire, Skeptics, How to Win

My lord.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Palantir CEO Alex Karp: Why the West is Destroying Itself, Data Empire, Skeptics, How to Win

Nicotine pouch?

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Palantir CEO Alex Karp: Why the West is Destroying Itself, Data Empire, Skeptics, How to Win

I don't need it.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Palantir CEO Alex Karp: Why the West is Destroying Itself, Data Empire, Skeptics, How to Win

Try to build ontology and FDEs five, six years before anyone thought it was.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Palantir CEO Alex Karp: Why the West is Destroying Itself, Data Empire, Skeptics, How to Win

Try to raise the capital.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Palantir CEO Alex Karp: Why the West is Destroying Itself, Data Empire, Skeptics, How to Win

Try to be left.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Palantir CEO Alex Karp: Why the West is Destroying Itself, Data Empire, Skeptics, How to Win

But to your questions, no, we are not surveilling US citizens.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Palantir CEO Alex Karp: Why the West is Destroying Itself, Data Empire, Skeptics, How to Win

No, our data is not being used to aggregate and to create imputed weight.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Palantir CEO Alex Karp: Why the West is Destroying Itself, Data Empire, Skeptics, How to Win

Because you could say, do you do it directly?

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Palantir CEO Alex Karp: Why the West is Destroying Itself, Data Empire, Skeptics, How to Win

Do you do it indirectly?

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Palantir CEO Alex Karp: Why the West is Destroying Itself, Data Empire, Skeptics, How to Win

That's a fair question.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Palantir CEO Alex Karp: Why the West is Destroying Itself, Data Empire, Skeptics, How to Win

No.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Palantir CEO Alex Karp: Why the West is Destroying Itself, Data Empire, Skeptics, How to Win

Would I do this?

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Palantir CEO Alex Karp: Why the West is Destroying Itself, Data Empire, Skeptics, How to Win

Don't have to believe me, but I've never done it in 20 years.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Palantir CEO Alex Karp: Why the West is Destroying Itself, Data Empire, Skeptics, How to Win

I've told every single important... I do a lot of constructive engagement internally, like with countries.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Palantir CEO Alex Karp: Why the West is Destroying Itself, Data Empire, Skeptics, How to Win

Because, you know, people know I'm kind of on their side in the West.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Palantir CEO Alex Karp: Why the West is Destroying Itself, Data Empire, Skeptics, How to Win

I've told...

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Palantir CEO Alex Karp: Why the West is Destroying Itself, Data Empire, Skeptics, How to Win

every single major leader that I would not do something, and it's cost, and by the way, it's cost Palantir a lot of money.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Palantir CEO Alex Karp: Why the West is Destroying Itself, Data Empire, Skeptics, How to Win

We never worked with China, we never worked with Russia, we never worked with adversarial, we got laughed out of the same room.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Palantir CEO Alex Karp: Why the West is Destroying Itself, Data Empire, Skeptics, How to Win

Well, actually, they've often characterized what I've said correctly.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Palantir CEO Alex Karp: Why the West is Destroying Itself, Data Empire, Skeptics, How to Win

Oh.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Palantir CEO Alex Karp: Why the West is Destroying Itself, Data Empire, Skeptics, How to Win

So, but okay.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Palantir CEO Alex Karp: Why the West is Destroying Itself, Data Empire, Skeptics, How to Win

Yeah, I simply... Look, the Israel...

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Palantir CEO Alex Karp: Why the West is Destroying Itself, Data Empire, Skeptics, How to Win

Honestly, some of you guys like and love me more than I like myself, which takes a little work.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Palantir CEO Alex Karp: Why the West is Destroying Itself, Data Empire, Skeptics, How to Win

For me, before he gets as big, they're fundamental issues.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Palantir CEO Alex Karp: Why the West is Destroying Itself, Data Empire, Skeptics, How to Win

Does Israel have a claim to the land?

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Palantir CEO Alex Karp: Why the West is Destroying Itself, Data Empire, Skeptics, How to Win

Yes.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Palantir CEO Alex Karp: Why the West is Destroying Itself, Data Empire, Skeptics, How to Win

Does Israel... So again, does Israel have a right to defend itself?

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Palantir CEO Alex Karp: Why the West is Destroying Itself, Data Empire, Skeptics, How to Win

Yes.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Palantir CEO Alex Karp: Why the West is Destroying Itself, Data Empire, Skeptics, How to Win

Has Israel done something America would not have done under the same circumstances?

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Palantir CEO Alex Karp: Why the West is Destroying Itself, Data Empire, Skeptics, How to Win

I think America would have been a lot more brutal.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Palantir CEO Alex Karp: Why the West is Destroying Itself, Data Empire, Skeptics, How to Win

And again, now, then you get to the humanitarian thing.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Palantir CEO Alex Karp: Why the West is Destroying Itself, Data Empire, Skeptics, How to Win

And I'll say, abstracting from there, I believe progressives in this country are working day and night to hurt poor people in this country.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Palantir CEO Alex Karp: Why the West is Destroying Itself, Data Empire, Skeptics, How to Win

I don't believe they're progressive.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Palantir CEO Alex Karp: Why the West is Destroying Itself, Data Empire, Skeptics, How to Win

And I would say, I do not, I believe through direct and indirect engagement, I'm clearly not in favor of Palestinian innocent people being killed.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Palantir CEO Alex Karp: Why the West is Destroying Itself, Data Empire, Skeptics, How to Win

I am not in favor of that.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Palantir CEO Alex Karp: Why the West is Destroying Itself, Data Empire, Skeptics, How to Win

And I'll tell you, so then the question is,

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Palantir CEO Alex Karp: Why the West is Destroying Itself, Data Empire, Skeptics, How to Win

Are you allowed to fight war?

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Palantir CEO Alex Karp: Why the West is Destroying Itself, Data Empire, Skeptics, How to Win

I think this audience as an example, though, is almost unfair because builders basically learn from watching

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Palantir CEO Alex Karp: Why the West is Destroying Itself, Data Empire, Skeptics, How to Win

And then the other point is, if you want to minimize human life, innocent human life being killed, you're going to have to use software.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Palantir CEO Alex Karp: Why the West is Destroying Itself, Data Empire, Skeptics, How to Win

And this is going to have to be better in the future than it is now.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Palantir CEO Alex Karp: Why the West is Destroying Itself, Data Empire, Skeptics, How to Win

It's true, Israel's ratio of casualty, innocent to non-innocent, is better than anyone else ever had in the history of humanity, and it's going to have to be better in the future.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Palantir CEO Alex Karp: Why the West is Destroying Itself, Data Empire, Skeptics, How to Win

You have to be very careful.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Palantir CEO Alex Karp: Why the West is Destroying Itself, Data Empire, Skeptics, How to Win

I want to avoid, like, I can't go into exact, like, I'm not allowed to say where we're used, where we're not used.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Palantir CEO Alex Karp: Why the West is Destroying Itself, Data Empire, Skeptics, How to Win

But then there's sometimes a trick people do.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Palantir CEO Alex Karp: Why the West is Destroying Itself, Data Empire, Skeptics, How to Win

It's like, oh, I'm not used for this, and I'm not used for that.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Palantir CEO Alex Karp: Why the West is Destroying Itself, Data Empire, Skeptics, How to Win

When, in fact, you know, we are used in Israel.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Palantir CEO Alex Karp: Why the West is Destroying Itself, Data Empire, Skeptics, How to Win

And, like, I would say, as a generalization, where we're used in Israel, most people in this audience would be very supportive of.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Palantir CEO Alex Karp: Why the West is Destroying Itself, Data Empire, Skeptics, How to Win

And it actually has been very precise and deadly.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Palantir CEO Alex Karp: Why the West is Destroying Itself, Data Empire, Skeptics, How to Win

And I support that.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Palantir CEO Alex Karp: Why the West is Destroying Itself, Data Empire, Skeptics, How to Win

I mean, you have to disambiguate America.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Palantir CEO Alex Karp: Why the West is Destroying Itself, Data Empire, Skeptics, How to Win

Like, I walked around your audience.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Palantir CEO Alex Karp: Why the West is Destroying Itself, Data Empire, Skeptics, How to Win

This is not an audience committing suicide.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Palantir CEO Alex Karp: Why the West is Destroying Itself, Data Empire, Skeptics, How to Win

This is an audience fighting to win.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Palantir CEO Alex Karp: Why the West is Destroying Itself, Data Empire, Skeptics, How to Win

And before I get to this question, and the one thing I would tell you guys is you're gonna have to fight to win, because currently I'm one of the few people, other people on stage who speak up.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Palantir CEO Alex Karp: Why the West is Destroying Itself, Data Empire, Skeptics, How to Win

You're gonna have to speak up and explain to people why you have the right to win, or it may be taken from you.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Palantir CEO Alex Karp: Why the West is Destroying Itself, Data Empire, Skeptics, How to Win

And so you're gonna have to, you're gonna have to fight.

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Palantir CEO Alex Karp: Why the West is Destroying Itself, Data Empire, Skeptics, How to Win

And by the way, here I mean, I don't mean left, right here.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Palantir CEO Alex Karp: Why the West is Destroying Itself, Data Empire, Skeptics, How to Win

Both parties need a little bit of kick in the ass here.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Palantir CEO Alex Karp: Why the West is Destroying Itself, Data Empire, Skeptics, How to Win

Like, it's like, it's just, you know, we have a right to win, we need to win, and you have an individual right to fight to win in this country, and it should not be taken away from you.

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Palantir CEO Alex Karp: Why the West is Destroying Itself, Data Empire, Skeptics, How to Win

And it could be if you don't stand up and tell people, no, your idea's ridiculous, and I just, let me explain to you how this works.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Palantir CEO Alex Karp: Why the West is Destroying Itself, Data Empire, Skeptics, How to Win

Then, I mean, the country, for those of you who don't know, I spent half my life, and I wrote this PhD in Germany, and so it's a country, I know France reasonably well, actually.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Palantir CEO Alex Karp: Why the West is Destroying Itself, Data Empire, Skeptics, How to Win

But when I'm talking about Europe, Europe is obviously not Europe.

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Palantir CEO Alex Karp: Why the West is Destroying Itself, Data Empire, Skeptics, How to Win

You have East and West Europe, and Eastern European countries are very, very different than Western European countries.

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Palantir CEO Alex Karp: Why the West is Destroying Itself, Data Empire, Skeptics, How to Win

Denmark's very different, and the Nordics are very different.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Palantir CEO Alex Karp: Why the West is Destroying Itself, Data Empire, Skeptics, How to Win

Like highly, highly talented people basically put a discount rate on everything anyone says and measure accomplishment based on outperformance against that discount rate.

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Palantir CEO Alex Karp: Why the West is Destroying Itself, Data Empire, Skeptics, How to Win

But generally, when people in this country are in general talking about committing suicide, they're really thinking in their mind's eye, Germany.

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Palantir CEO Alex Karp: Why the West is Destroying Itself, Data Empire, Skeptics, How to Win

It's like you have a country with arguably had pre-software AI, the best industrial base in the world, the best schools in the world.

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Palantir CEO Alex Karp: Why the West is Destroying Itself, Data Empire, Skeptics, How to Win

They have vocational schools.

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Palantir CEO Alex Karp: Why the West is Destroying Itself, Data Empire, Skeptics, How to Win

Germany, they never neglected their working class.

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Palantir CEO Alex Karp: Why the West is Destroying Itself, Data Empire, Skeptics, How to Win

You have two different kinds of vocational schools in Germany.

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Palantir CEO Alex Karp: Why the West is Destroying Itself, Data Empire, Skeptics, How to Win

You have for lower level and high level vocational training in Germany.

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Palantir CEO Alex Karp: Why the West is Destroying Itself, Data Empire, Skeptics, How to Win

puts you on the factory floor doing important things, and you earn a real salary with real benefits your whole life and have rights.

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Palantir CEO Alex Karp: Why the West is Destroying Itself, Data Empire, Skeptics, How to Win

It has best healthcare, best life, and for those of you who embrace a lascivious lifestyle, by far the best.

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Palantir CEO Alex Karp: Why the West is Destroying Itself, Data Empire, Skeptics, How to Win

Think about it.

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Palantir CEO Alex Karp: Why the West is Destroying Itself, Data Empire, Skeptics, How to Win

And so, really, and the highest level of data protection, highest level of integrity, best position to win, and okay, suddenly you got the energy, they basically blew up the energy market,

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Palantir CEO Alex Karp: Why the West is Destroying Itself, Data Empire, Skeptics, How to Win

They blew up immigration, and they blew up essentially their tech scene.

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Palantir CEO Alex Karp: Why the West is Destroying Itself, Data Empire, Skeptics, How to Win

And now it's very hard to ask and answer the question, what is the future?

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Palantir CEO Alex Karp: Why the West is Destroying Itself, Data Empire, Skeptics, How to Win

And as a kind of sideline diagnostic, and Peter and I, who they should be calling every day on Speed Dale, they spend every day talking about us.

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Palantir CEO Alex Karp: Why the West is Destroying Itself, Data Empire, Skeptics, How to Win

For those of you who are German, you'll know every single day, three times a day, is Peter's Darth Vader, and I'm Lord Sith.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Palantir CEO Alex Karp: Why the West is Destroying Itself, Data Empire, Skeptics, How to Win

And meanwhile, they should be calling us.

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Palantir CEO Alex Karp: Why the West is Destroying Itself, Data Empire, Skeptics, How to Win

The way you commit suicide in the West is you stop believing that your particular culture has something superior in it.

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Palantir CEO Alex Karp: Why the West is Destroying Itself, Data Empire, Skeptics, How to Win

Like, yes, Germany screwed up a lot of stuff in World War II, but to believe that there's nothing special, unique, and uniquely valuable about German culture is insanity.

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Palantir CEO Alex Karp: Why the West is Destroying Itself, Data Empire, Skeptics, How to Win

It's like complete insanity.

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Palantir CEO Alex Karp: Why the West is Destroying Itself, Data Empire, Skeptics, How to Win

And there's nothing wrong with saying you're proud to be German.

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Palantir CEO Alex Karp: Why the West is Destroying Itself, Data Empire, Skeptics, How to Win

Like in German, you're literally far right of center if you're like, yeah, .

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Palantir CEO Alex Karp: Why the West is Destroying Itself, Data Empire, Skeptics, How to Win

That will put you like, I'm proud to be German.

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Palantir CEO Alex Karp: Why the West is Destroying Itself, Data Empire, Skeptics, How to Win

And you'll find if you're managing

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Palantir CEO Alex Karp: Why the West is Destroying Itself, Data Empire, Skeptics, How to Win

Even at Palantir, one of the crazy things about Palantir is how German we are.

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We take everything to every question to the nth degree and then recatenate the thing before we make a decision.

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future builders, anyone who's Palantir in shape, that de facto you get street cred by outperforming against expectations where expectations are kind of multiplied against a high discount rate.

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The jump off place here is for very different and very non-connected reasons, they all decided there was nothing special about their culture.

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And again, France would be an even better example because they have a much better narrative.

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They actually had a resistance.

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It wasn't as big as people say, but it existed.

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France, you know, the crazy thing about LLMs is it should have been built in, I mean, the whole center of gravity should be in France.

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Like, the two best math cultures in the world are Russia and France.

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And like, we hire ad nauseum from France.

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So, but France, they gave up on two things, and France actually might even be the better example.

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If you, in France, for those of you who aren't French, France is religiously focused on meritocracy.

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So they have this one school you have to get into, it's all about math, and the reasons about math is the socialists in France decided that having like verbal, high verbal IQ was a class-based thing.

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And so,

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They're religiously into meritocracy, and the whole definition of it is mathematical aptitude.

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France is complicated, you have far right, far left in between.

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Somehow, and in other countries, it's very hard to articulate in France why you think French culture is better than any other culture in Europe, from a French perspective.

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And then, for example, concretely, if you want to build a product,

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If you build it in France, it should be absolutely mathematical and aesthetic.

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If you build it in Germany, it's going to have to be conceptual and manufacturing-based.

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You're going to have a different tech scene, a different way of organizing it.

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And then last not least, and this is the thing we have to fight for the most, they become anti-meritocratic.

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So if you're in Germany or France and you're the best of the best of the best, you're going to wait 30 years before you have a real job.

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Why?

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Well, there's again, the people out there protesting or the people, the faculty members at Berkeley have taught them to protest.

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A lot of strays for Berkeley.

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Well, we can pick on Stanford.

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But they equate morally losing in the real world with winning immorally.

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So I think what you'd find in this audience is two things converging.

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And it seems like a crazy way to think because in the end everyone loses.

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I mean, there are many, many different schools of Christianity, and so like even in this case, like Lutheran Christianity and Catholic French Christianity are basically not correlated.

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One,

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They're both Christian.

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What's special about America was Calvinism.

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Like we are the most Calvinist culture in the world, and actually the protesters are anti-Calvinism.

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What does Calvinism mean?

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The journey of Palantir is completely counterintuitive, especially technical experts.

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Calvinism celebrates success.

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De facto, almost everybody in America that is, whether you're Jewish, Muslim, Christian, the underlying backdrop of America is this Calvinist view.

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And the anti-Calvinist cultures of Europe, Lutheranism, other kinds of cultures, they do equate, like, you know, behind every great success is a great crime, is a famous Voltairian classic.

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And we don't have this in this country.

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If this slips, you basically end up in a situation where everybody who is succeeding or is perceived to be in a group that is disproportionately succeeding ends up on the firing wall.

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And what does that happen to the whole society?

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Are we seeing that with anti-Semitism?

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One of the more interesting facts about France is between 61 and 91, their GDP grew faster than America's.

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So this is a very special culture.

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Now, the anti-Semitism, well, I don't particularly, like, I actually think it should be disambiguated.

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The FTE thing was viewed as like you weren't going to get a multiple.

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I actually, like, someone liking or not liking a Jewish person or being skeptical of Jews, that's irrelevant.

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Somebody who has Jewish derangement syndrome that wants to burn down the whole society to get rid of the obvious fact that Jews do well in their meritocratic situation, that's a problem for everybody, not just for Jews.

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And it should be very much focused, like,

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In private, I'm very critical of these advocacy groups and I'm constantly hanging up on them.

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Of course I'm not going to give you any fucking money.

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This is the most ridiculous bullshit ever.

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You're like, what the fuck?

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I was viewed as like this magical wizard who could get the smartest people in the world to work on something that was de facto stupid.

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It's like the best culture in the world.

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The thing that becomes dangerous is when you have derangement syndrome.

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And the derangement syndrome comes from, yeah, if you're a classic, the classic liberal inputs

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have to be really, really fair, as fair as we can make them, and outputs are never gonna be fair.

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Well, you know, it's funny.

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Like, obviously, Palantir and I are wildly skeptical of the CCP.

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But, you know, I think I'm the highest-ranked Tai Chi practitioner in corporate life in the world.

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And it's like... You're like, sorry, say that again.

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You're like S-level Tai Chi, like...

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Well, you know, like that video, that was very high level internal martial arts.

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I'm not at that level, but I mean, among my corporate peers, it's like, yeah, I have the equivalent in VO2 max terms of like a 72 or something like that.

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And in Tai Chi, the way...

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the kind of part of the culture that I admire works like in Tai Chi is you put pressure on all parts of the system to expose the weak part of the system internally of your adversary.

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We were a quote-unquote terrible at public relations and we stood up for the US government even when it was really, really unpopular.

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And that is just the way Chinese, like at least Tai Chi martial arts works.

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I mean, they're not useful for fighting, but it is very useful for thinking, Tai Chi, or as useful for fighting as it, you know.

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And if you want to engage the way...

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The way an engagement with China works is you make your, or in Tai Chi terms, you wanna engage with China, you better make sure the internal dynamics of this country are very strong.

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It's magically the external dynamics over there will shift.

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Yeah, obviously.

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But again, I'll tell you what.

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So they're obviously... I'm in full agreement.

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No, but my version always of this is it's their job to stabilize us.

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It's our job to be stable.

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And it's like when you're... Most people here are running successful businesses.

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It's actually well said.

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It's our job to be stable.

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The Tai Chi version of you're not going to have to enter the fight if you're strong.

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There is no fight.

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The famous martial arts thing is if you're in a fight, you're not a martial artist.

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And then there are a lot of people in the audience who agree with that, but I think as importantly, look at the results, look at the fruits we bore, look at the people we have on our side, and then you get to the other side.

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This is the same thing in business.

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When you get to the point where you're competing with someone, you've really fucked something up.

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If you look at the Palantir version,

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Yeah, do FDEs, do ontology, do ontology, orchestrate them at scale, grow 93%.

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People don't want, or work with the US government.

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People are like, that's kind of hard and really unfun.

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I obviously agree with that.

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I think honestly the problem is they even think they can get away with this.

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One of the more interesting things is when you read people who are against America taking out these narco-terrorists, it's always something like we've got to use a reified meaning, overly

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deterministic form of law to the point where America has to die.

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Back to your question.

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Yeah, due process for Al-Qaeda makes no sense.

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Well, it's like the interesting thing here, actually, with a point of agreement is if you allow, okay, just take like an obvious example of like fraud, human rights watch.

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Okay, so they'll take a standard, they'll move the standard, and then the downstream consequences of it is that we've got to disappear and die, right?

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But then even worse than that, they're actually paving the way for a fascism because Americans and no one else are going to tolerate that level of dysfunction.

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These fuckers are killing 50, 100,000 of our people.

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The fact that they think they can get away with this is a real problem.

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And again, it would be easy just to dismiss the other side as, I don't know, stupid, they don't know what's going on.

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And the fact that somebody's going to say, again, you have the European version, it's like if you allow, you have to protect the data and find the terrorists because otherwise you get a form of fascism.

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You get it on the left because we have terror attacks and fentanyl across our street and you get it on the classic far, far right.

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The modern progressive movement is clearly not progressive.

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Progressive is defined by the working class do better tomorrow than they did today and know it.

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To do that, you need things that you can do at scale now.

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Vocational training on AI-based systems.

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making our laborers more valuable, obviously closing the border so that you don't reduce the amount that you pay people and also eviscerate legal protections.

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Let's just take the intellectually rigorous version of why you would be against what we're doing.

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This is not progressive.

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It's not progressive, by the way, to have so little competence or willing to use force that we get overrun by drugs.

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Who do those drugs go to?

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Disproportionately poor people of color.

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It's not progressive to have crime rates.

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You know, to be a civil war zone, to be a war zone, you have to have five deaths per 100,000.

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That's like half our cities.

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How's that progressive?

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What you mean, you care about poor people so much?

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You're just going to let them kill each other?

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All right, can you put your shift gears here?

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I've never been in Neocon.

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Like, this is the thing.

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It's like, I've never been in Neocon.

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I actually don't think that's the pro-Western.

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The pro-Western superiority thing is we do what we do really well.

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As usual, I've been cautioned to be a little modest about our bombastic numbers.

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Why are we trying to make people us?

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I've never understood this.

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By the way,

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So, the neocon thing, the pro-migration people and the pro-occupation people abroad, it's the same philosophy.

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There's a misconception that

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I don't actually think migration is working in the West because people don't want to change.

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I don't think, like, and why are we teaching the Arab Middle East how to live better?

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The countries that, I won't go into names, that seem to love and revere me and Palantir, they're doing really well.

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Like, they have a way of living their life, it works really well, it largely involves

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different ways of living than we would.

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There's no First Amendment, there's really not a Fourth Amendment, and I'm not that interested in that.

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And by the way, I think that destabilizes everyone.

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AI and tech is going to exclude everyone who's not in this room.

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So I completely, I am against, I am very in favor of using force where it's needed, but force where it's needed and doing occupation are completely different things.

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And you will see across the world, people who wanna convince

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like, I don't know, convince Afghani villagers to be pro-feminist will also explain to you that the people that end up coming here are gonna be pro-Western in their values three generations out.

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It's completely ridiculous.

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And so a lot of people who are protesting, actually what they're protesting is there's no way to get in this room.

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And in fact, the way aptitude and the way the implementation of things has worked, they're just wrong.

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And because they've assumed that, they then go into what I would call super-aggressive, non-working philosophical or empirical models, where they assume the losers are noble.

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But actually what they're really assuming is they can't win.

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And then you get to more subtle things.

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I do think there's an issue with our lead institutions that have taken the best and brightest and most valuable things you could teach someone and have turned it into some kind of Stalinistic bullshit that is anti-correlated with everything that works in the West, which is like individual accomplishment.

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And if you had to say, what is the central thing we do in America better than anyone else?

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It's like allowing people to express their individual artistry in a way where you fucking win.

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Like with no apologies.

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And then because they think they're on the loser side of this, they assume morality can't be against them.

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And then they are trained to believe that and to understand it.

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Of course, if you're a professor at Berkeley teaching about Heidegger, you think losing is good because you lost.

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That's, of course, the whole reason you think that.

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You think that because you are the noble loser.

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But again, where it gets super, super dangerous and where I do think we have to do a better job is you can't just assume there's no truth in what they believe, which is like we have not done an even adequate job of helping people at the bottom.

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Oh, so I'm getting... Now you can get to... No, well, first of all, I get yelled out about... You know what I get yelled at most about is actually enforcing the border.

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That's number one.

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Our southern border.

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Our southern border.

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So again, I'll go through all three.

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I get yelled at about, first of all, for decades I got yelled at.

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So there are legitimate issues to go over, but I just want, for those of you who don't know the history, I've been yelled at for 20 years and protested primarily for supporting special operations

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in America, and you just gotta imagine that.

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I'm being protested for bringing soldiers home alive and killing our enemies.

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And these are people who serve our country and have been largely screwed by both parties.

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Like both parties have totally screwed them.

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And so I've been yelled, so that's what I got yelled at.

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And then I got yelled at about that every single day.

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Then I got yelled at under Biden, under Obama, Biden, and especially, obviously, if Trump's doing it, you're definitely getting yelled at for enforcing the border.

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Now, I want to say, I don't understand how in the world of AI you cannot be for somewhat of a constrained border.

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Because we can make it work for every single person who's actually American.

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And we can make laborers more valuable.

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We need extra labor that's either completely the most talented in the world, like many people in this room, or who are bringing skills.

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Also, we have enough transparency.

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You can't say you don't know who's in your country.

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It's complete BS.

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It's completely anti-correlated, by the way, with being progressive.

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I grew up in the most progressive family ever, and every Friday night at Shabbat, there was a lecture on how the Republicans are screwing our country by undermining the worker and bringing in cheap labor.

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So OK, so I got yelled at about that.

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And then I fought about that, actually mostly, and then commercially got yelled at about how could you have these FDEs?

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It's going to blow up your multiple.

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Now everybody wants to be an FDE.

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But OK, so now I'm getting yelled at primarily about ICE.

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What's going on?

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How's it going on?

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Is the treatment just?

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The one thing I would say, and we can go through each one of these individual things.

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The obvious fact is, if you care about not being surveilled illegally,

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if you care about the treatment of people who come into the country illegally but deserve adequate treatment, if you care about lives in Gaza, in Ukraine, and all over the world where Palantir is used, you're going to want the best software in the world because it's the only way you can reduce and more precisely target the people and justify the way.

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And actually, the only way where you can say this person did this and they deserve to go.

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And so, you know,

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And each one of these things has to be steel manned and then... Let's do that for the second one, the border.

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I didn't say we could easily do it, and I'm not calling BS on that.

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I'm actually saying it's a very, very hard problem, but in the world of AI and software, you can't say it can't be done.

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It could be very easily done if you eviscerate our civil liberties.

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Yeah, that's not being done.

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I could grow your revenue at 400%, but I'll lose money in perpetuity.

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It's not a business.

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I just got to interrupt you.

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80, 90% of people believing it and it happening are completely just non-connected.

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I think you're jumping over a lot of things.

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It happened.

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What's interesting about political parties in America is that they're anti-correlated with what they claim.

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Democrats claim to be progressive like me.

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Having a border is not progressive.

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President Trump is conservative.

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Having a border is progressive.

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And unfortunately, until we change our polity, the people actually get a say on the border.

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By the way, the single best example of this is in Europe.

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So how do you explain the complete dysfunction in Europe?

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How are you?

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You know, most Europeans, Germans, there are many Germans in the audience.

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Hello.

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How many of you guys are happy with the immigration situation you have in Germany?

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Doing well.

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Thanks for coming out.

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None.

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How many will talk about it publicly?

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How many will do anything?

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And then you get to these issues.

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The polity will frame the issue so that there is no solution.

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By the way, thank all of you guys.

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The only solution is to accept a solution no one wants.

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And that's what we had.

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And it's not, and part of the problem, the reason the border is such an interesting thing is, the reason you get an open border is politicians do not want to address the real problems of the society, which would mean the workers of today have more value tomorrow than they have today.

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Because they have no earthly clue how to do that, they're like, we'll just open the border, and we'll get free labor, and if you're on the left, we'll get people who'll vote for us.

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Great crowd.

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And the reason, the way in which if you kind of steel man your questions,

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Gaza-Ukraine border, you have to raise the moral standard.

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So it's not, again, the way you led this is like if we just put up a camera.

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Yes, you can stop terrorism or you can have civil liberties.

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It's a little bit like you can have growth without revenue or you can have revenue without growth.

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You have the best people.

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If you want to solve the problem, you have to increase civil liberties and stop people from being in your country illegally.

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And the reason it doesn't happen is because there's slippage in the execution, which is absolutely purposeful.

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And we don't want this country to be what Europe is now.

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And I lived in Europe most of my life.

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My grandmother, if German law made any sense, would be German, and I would have a German passport.

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If we don't want that, you have to close the border, you have to make sure that people who have a right to be here get to stay, people who don't have a right to stay get treated fairly.

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By the way, both sides have to step up.

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It's not enough to say, I'm against the border or whatever, but I have no solution for what's going to happen for people, which is unfortunately what my party... What's your solution for, just your personal solution, for what to do with 30 million people who are here illegally?

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Well, first of all, I mean, my personal solution would be you divide the pie.

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Everybody who's criminal, criminal adjacent, or has anything to do with crime is going to leave.

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And I'm going to make it so that they self-deport because I'm going to come tomorrow in a way you don't like it.

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Hopefully enough.

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That's number one.

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And there's 90% consensus.

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No, you have a lot of... It's easy to agree on.

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But the paradigm is like it's easy because, again, you're like... In any case, these things are much, much harder than they look.

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As an example, how do you do that without eviscerating our civil liberties?

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How do we make sure the criminals, how do you know someone's criminal?

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What standard of practice do you use to define if someone's criminal?

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Are all criminals the same?

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Because de facto, if you go broad brush the way you basically are, it's like, yes, but being in the country illegally is a felon.

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killing someone or potentially kill someone of a different kind.

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How do you deal with the people that are around them?

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How do you deal with law enforcement people, databases that are not made public to you?

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How do you deal with imputed data?

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How do you deal with data, how do you do, do you do predictive?

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That's the thing.

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Yeah, so first of all, I just want to, like, Palantir, like, there's a technical version, which I'm going to give you, but we had a Democratic administration come to us and basically ask us to do a Muslim database.

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Now, you would think, given the way I'm kind of besmirched as like some kind of, I don't know, it's like a Jewish conspiracy, that would be the first thing, according to them, I would do.

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We've never done anything like this.

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I've never done anything like this.

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To actually understand the answer, and I love these questions about the skeptics.

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I actually love skeptics.

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I tend to divide the world into, you have Palantir derangement syndrome, which I don't spend a lot of time on and I think they're anti-builder.

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You have Palantir skeptics and you have people who don't like Palantir.

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If you're a Palantir skeptic or you don't like us, I want to engage.

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Any technology that works can be abused.

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We are the single worst technology to use to abuse civil liberties, which is, by the way, the reason why we could never get the NSA or the FBI to actually buy our product.

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Good taste.

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And until recently, like, SIGINT institutions would never buy our product.

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Yeah, you laugh because it's obvious.

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If you want to do data analytics in a way that eviscerates our civil liberties, you don't want ACLs, you don't want branching, you don't want pipelining.

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You don't want logs.

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You don't want serialization and deserialization in your product.

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Good taste.

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If you have serialization and deserialization in your product that's intelligible, you are basically creating a product that's going to be really, really hard to abuse.

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And the logs are immutable in Palantir.

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And by the way, the single most civil liberties heavy place in the world is hating on us every day.

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And you know what they're buying every day?

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Palantir.

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It's called Europe.

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Sorry, I want to get to this because this is important.

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Because I get basically attacked by skeptics and anti-Palantir people that deserve... And by the way, do not...

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Well, there is an issue of taste and I think actually, you know, like, you always have to kind of try to steel man the other side.

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This is a lesson for you.

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Do not believe anything I'm saying.

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And if you're online watching, I don't know, Nick Fuentes, Call Me the Jewish Conspiracy, do yourself a favor and say, yeah, that could be really interesting.

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Spend 20 minutes looking at the product.

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20 minutes looking at the product and say, is this not the hardest product to abuse in the world?

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Is it not built to be?

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And by the way, and then I'll get to direct answers of your questions.

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And by the way, that's made me very rich, because the civil liberties protections we built into PGE are the same things that we use to orchestrate large language models, the same way we orchestrate internally, and the same things you will need to make any enterprise in the world work, because every enterprise in the world, public or private, needs deserialization, ACLs, branching, some kind of scaffolding to make the LLMs work,

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What I don't like about what's going on is I just view this as, well, let's watch the Democratic Party commit suicide. And like I've been a Democrat most of my life, I would still, I kind of view myself as outside it, but I don't like watching the Democrats just commit suicide.

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What I don't like about what's going on is I just view this as, well, let's watch the Democratic Party commit suicide. And like I've been a Democrat most of my life, I would still, I kind of view myself as outside it, but I don't like watching the Democrats just commit suicide.

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What Did Zelensky Know? When Did He Know It? (Ep. 2426)

What I don't like about what's going on is I just view this as, well, let's watch the Democratic Party commit suicide. And like I've been a Democrat most of my life, I would still, I kind of view myself as outside it, but I don't like watching the Democrats just commit suicide.

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And what I see is most of the country doesn't really, at this point, given the fraud, waste, and abuse we know is there, 90% of the country is like, get rid of that fraud, waste, and abuse. And I just view this as yet another example of

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And what I see is most of the country doesn't really, at this point, given the fraud, waste, and abuse we know is there, 90% of the country is like, get rid of that fraud, waste, and abuse. And I just view this as yet another example of

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What Did Zelensky Know? When Did He Know It? (Ep. 2426)

And what I see is most of the country doesn't really, at this point, given the fraud, waste, and abuse we know is there, 90% of the country is like, get rid of that fraud, waste, and abuse. And I just view this as yet another example of

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What Did Zelensky Know? When Did He Know It? (Ep. 2426)

the progressive left boxing themselves in into a suicide dance now if you what what the progressive left should be doing is saying okay elon you're clearly the most qualified person in the world to do something like this we want to dialogue with you about how you're doing what are you doing

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What Did Zelensky Know? When Did He Know It? (Ep. 2426)

the progressive left boxing themselves in into a suicide dance now if you what what the progressive left should be doing is saying okay elon you're clearly the most qualified person in the world to do something like this we want to dialogue with you about how you're doing what are you doing

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What Did Zelensky Know? When Did He Know It? (Ep. 2426)

the progressive left boxing themselves in into a suicide dance now if you what what the progressive left should be doing is saying okay elon you're clearly the most qualified person in the world to do something like this we want to dialogue with you about how you're doing what are you doing