AJ Gentile
Appearances
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2327 - AJ Gentile
Okay. Want some coffee? Yeah, let's have some coffee. I'm off booze right now.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2327 - AJ Gentile
Right. So when we talk about ancient advanced civilizations, we're not talking about more advanced than us. We just mean advanced.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2327 - AJ Gentile
That's the perfect way to say it. You know, it's a shame that he's marginalized, but I like that Netflix is stuck by him and he's going to keep bumping those out.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2327 - AJ Gentile
And why aren't we allowed to ask? Why aren't we allowed to investigate it? Yeah. Remember when Ancient Apocalypse Season 1 came out, there was a British newspaper that said Graham Hancock is the most dangerous man in the world. Yeah.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2327 - AJ Gentile
No, not forever. Cheers. I just needed a break. It was becoming a little bit like a habit.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2327 - AJ Gentile
It would only take – A hundred years for Manhattan to be covered by vegetation. A thousand years, the skyscrapers would crumble. Ten thousand years, it'd all be washed away.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2327 - AJ Gentile
Right. And that makes a lot of sense to me, that it's just part of a cycle. Yeah. The doomsday clock, it's kind of a real thing. You just get to a level of technology where you just are too dangerous for your own good. We're not sophisticated enough for nuclear weapons. We're not smart enough to have those. No.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2327 - AJ Gentile
But then why did they allow just the United States to detonate 60-something bombs?
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2327 - AJ Gentile
And in some tests, you can see stuff in the sky in the films. I think you can see something at Castle Bravo. Could be wrong, but there are some tests where you can see stuff in the sky. Like, what was that for a few frames? Like, they were keeping an eye on. I hope they are.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2327 - AJ Gentile
Of course. It's not necessary. I'm funnier because I know what I'm talking about. Yes. And I'm not embarrassed the next day.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2327 - AJ Gentile
I'm allowed to go back at the first of the month. Okay. You need to quit vices once in a while, if anything, just to prove that you can.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2327 - AJ Gentile
We had a podcasting studio in L.A. on Sunset. We were doing pretty well, hosting a lot of shows, guys you knew, like when COVID hit, Kill Tony came and worked out of our studio, Jeremiah, Metzger, all the guys. Didn't make any money, but it was a cool setup. But then they locked down the city, impossibly. And we didn't really know what to do. Then they set fire to the city somehow.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2327 - AJ Gentile
That's my favorite. Because no booze for me doesn't mean no gummies. Oh, okay. So a half a gummy and a Bigfoot episode, I'm having a great time.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2327 - AJ Gentile
Native American legends say exactly that, that it's this creature that lives between worlds.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2327 - AJ Gentile
And the same with giants as well. They have the legends of the red-haired giants that were chased west. I'm glad we're getting to that.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2327 - AJ Gentile
The Smithsonian? Oh, that was – yeah, that was G.E. Kincaid in the Smithsonian cover-up.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2327 - AJ Gentile
You cannot fly over. Right. And you can't fly under the rim. Yet when you go to those bad places, suddenly a white plane flies over under the rim. Black helicopters show up. I showed on my episode. I show the black helicopters showing up like they do show.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2327 - AJ Gentile
So the story is – it shows up I believe in like the Phoenix Gazette. It's 1903 or so. And the explorer is G.E. Kincaid and he's going down. He's looking for gold deposits or whatever. This is just before Teddy Roosevelt made the Grand Canyon a preserve. He was a naturalist. So he finds these steps that are clearly man-made.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2327 - AJ Gentile
And the wife and I are racing down Hollywood Boulevard being chased by people with bats and boxes of Adidas. And we were like, this is too much. And we just started packing. That's it. We got out. And I didn't know what to do. So I'd been working in showbiz. not super successfully like on the cusp, but I've been a professional host, editor, producer, writer for TV. So I was like, YouTube, easy.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2327 - AJ Gentile
He follows the steps up, and there's a cave, and he goes in there, and he describes hieroglyphics that look Egyptian but are not quite. He finds a statue that he describes as like Buddha-like, not Egyptian, not human, but sort of like Buddha, and all these – Weapons, shields, gold, all sorts of stuff. He keeps going. He finds a deserted city in the caves.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2327 - AJ Gentile
And all these tunnels and caverns go everywhere, and he's trying to map everything. He comes out, and he goes back to town, and he gathers together a group that we're going to go find this stuff again. And people are excited about it. And a couple of weeks go by, and everyone's gathered to go on the expedition. He never shows.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2327 - AJ Gentile
The expedition goes nowhere, and that's really the last we've heard of it.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2327 - AJ Gentile
Nobody asks why. Right. Nobody asks why. It really bothers me about that story in all of these, whether it's disclosure or whatever. I don't hear anyone asking why. Well, they won't let us. Well, who's they? Someone's in charge of stuff that's not the president or Congress.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2327 - AJ Gentile
You know, it's all going to be woo-woo conspiracy stuff or it's real or G.E. Kincaid found something and someone got to him.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2327 - AJ Gentile
Yes, I would think so. So my guess would be treasure and money. That would be my guess. It shows up in the paper. The government goes down. They're like, there's a lot of stuff down here. Let's grab it. Send it to the Smithsonian, who keeps 99% of the stuff under wraps. They have a billion items that nobody can see. And then that's the end of it.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2327 - AJ Gentile
I might be wrong, but I think Jordan was connected to the Smithsonian, at least according to the story.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2327 - AJ Gentile
them debunking this and they gave two links one to the original 1909 article and one to a 2008 update and that's where i was pulling that from i don't trust the smithsonian they're exempt from all kinds of stuff yeah well like you're there's a law passed not too long ago that if you have native american artifacts that are important to that culture especially burial artifacts they must be returned unless you're the smithsonian then you can make you can make a case that you don't have to give it back how do they have so much power
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2327 - AJ Gentile
I don't believe in coincidences. A lot of these stories come from places you just can't go.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2327 - AJ Gentile
I'm a natural. So I started the channel talking about science and weird stuff. And it was the hardest thing I ever did. It was like impossible to do. And I started out like following all the consultants. High energy, smash the like, be a YouTuber, top 10 list. And I did that for a little while. It's like, ah, no one's watching. This feels stupid. And then I just, I said, fuck it.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2327 - AJ Gentile
All the time. Or raft in? Yeah, did they get busted? And busted, yeah. And arrested.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2327 - AJ Gentile
Mm-hmm. You can find online, I wish I knew the names of a team that went up there. That's who found the black helicopters. And I used them in the video. And I credit them so you can find their videos. They're up there for an hour, hour and a half. Trying to find stuff. And what they found up in that forbidden zone is anchored into the ground a giant hook. Right. Or like a loop. Yeah, I saw that.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2327 - AJ Gentile
Like, what would you use that for? And that would be to rappel down. That's the only reason that would be there. There's no explanation for what is this. They also found artifacts from that era, from the early 1900s, artifacts that people were there. So it's possible that they rappelled that. Like, they might have been standing right above that entrance. Right.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2327 - AJ Gentile
And there are reverse angles of that rock face that look a little weird. It could be pareidolia.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2327 - AJ Gentile
Pareidolia is the mind's ability to see objects in random noise. It's something we evolved to see predators in the forest. That's why if you see a cloud that looks like an Abraham Lincoln, it's not Abraham Lincoln. It's pareidolia. But debunkers will always fall on pareidolia. So like the real believers, they hate that word.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2327 - AJ Gentile
I don't have a contract, all right? So this is already dangerous for me sitting here. But I got your back. If I go. Yeah. Because even if they drag you out, questions have to be posed. Right. Why couldn't I go there? What did he do wrong? Well, he violated this area.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2327 - AJ Gentile
Yes. It's incredible. You couldn't paint a better picture. But as you get closer to that edge, you can feel your amygdala going, oh, back up. Yeah. Like it's seriously dangerous. Yeah. Yeah.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2327 - AJ Gentile
We want to believe. That's why it's so fun. And I don't believe in most of the stuff I talk about. But when I approach a story, I try to find as much evidence as I can to support it. And I also want to find the other side. So that what we're left with is... Some truth. And not all stories can be fully debunked. And I've had my mind flipped a couple of times.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2327 - AJ Gentile
You know, Crop Circles, Hollow Moon, some really crazy shit have flipped me around.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2327 - AJ Gentile
Let me just talk about the shit I want to talk about. So I think the first good one was Operation High Jump. Admiral Byrd goes down to Antarctica with an armed fleet supposedly looking for Nazi UFOs, and it's a six-month mission, and in a few days they have to turn back, and it's crazy stuff. So I did that story, and I think I got 50,000 views. I don't think I saw that one. It's an old one.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2327 - AJ Gentile
Correct. So the nodes in the stalks, the node is like a knuckle on your fingers. So those are there for phototropism to bend toward light. So what you're talking about is these things are bent over. They're bent over at right angles. It can only be done with high energy. But also around these crop circles, they're finding… microscopic metallic spheroids around the circles.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2327 - AJ Gentile
And that's not a conspiracy theory. They're finding them. And there are these magnetic fields around the circles. And you can see videos online of people going into these crop circles and their hands start to get red. Things are happening to them. So I went into crop circles thinking it was all guys with boards. But then when you watch people with boards make a crop circle, it's a mess.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2327 - AJ Gentile
They can't do this. And you cannot bend the nodes of reeds and weave them together in a perfect – you can't do it. So that was – as I'm doing the research, I'm like, all right, 99% of them are fake. But there's this 1% that I cannot explain perfectly.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2327 - AJ Gentile
Semi. It's controversial because the guy who released that video, I don't know his name offhand, allegedly went to a visual effects house. Oh, boy. And released it. But they somehow put that thing together in a matter of hours, which is suspicious. So in my episode on it, I said, all right, here's what the skeptics say. But, you know, in the 1990s to do that kind of VFX work because it looks real.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2327 - AJ Gentile
It is. Operation Blackbird was a famous operation in 1990 to try and capture the footage live by a great researcher named Colin Andrews.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2327 - AJ Gentile
He's all in and he got a lot of support for Blackbird and not only did nothing happen, he was totally embarrassed by it. And it was all like streaming live and a lot of people were involved. He's embarrassed. We find out later that while they're like waiting for the circles to happen, just a few miles away, there's a top secret military operation doing whatever they're doing. He doesn't know why.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2327 - AJ Gentile
And then he gets a knock on the door from someone, men in black, whoever it is, that first offers him money to stop his work, then threatens him with whatever, threatens his family. And he doesn't know who this guy is. They go back and look at the tapes, and he sees the guy in the background, like one of the TV crews.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2327 - AJ Gentile
So the theory is some type of intelligence was embedded into Blackbird, made to discredit him, and that was kind of the end of Colin Andrews because he was a legit researcher at that point. Now he's fringe and now he's pseudoscience. But I get into that in the episode. That was something I discovered. I never knew that there was intelligence involved.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2327 - AJ Gentile
I didn't know that there was a military op, which is confirmed.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2327 - AJ Gentile
The believers is that it's a way to message craft or it's a landing site or it's some type of communication.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2327 - AJ Gentile
I don't know. It doesn't make sense to me. If you have the technology, just, you know.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2327 - AJ Gentile
Pick up the phone. There's better ways than just mowing wheat down. But I don't understand.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2327 - AJ Gentile
All right. Admiral Byrd goes down. This is just after the war. Remember, the Nazis were fleeing to South America, so mostly Argentina. So the Nazis had established or tried to establish a base in Antarctica. That's true. It's New Schwabenland. Now, people say they were trying to build a Nazi base and all that stuff. They were really just looking for a whaling station to get oil.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2327 - AJ Gentile
And this is before Lorenz and the Lorenz attractor. I think it's before that, isn't it?
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2327 - AJ Gentile
And it's the Mandelbrot set using Fibonacci numbers and the phi, the golden ratio. And it's accurate. And it's accurate down to inches.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2327 - AJ Gentile
You can't really see it there, but those flattened reeds, they're woven together.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2327 - AJ Gentile
And one of these, I don't know if it's that one in particular, showed up right next to Stonehenge.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2327 - AJ Gentile
The small circles are the ones that are most interesting because how hard is that to do? Right.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2327 - AJ Gentile
So Hitler didn't want to rely on outside sources. So anyway, after the war, they go down there. We still don't really know specifically why. It was supposed to be just to see how our aircraft would operate in cold weather. That was what they said. But this was a fleet that was armed to the teeth, like super armed. The first helicopters were the destroyers. So they go down there.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2327 - AJ Gentile
Yeah, those are the guys that aren't – you can see them doing it live.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2327 - AJ Gentile
Now, people will correct me in the comments, but I believe that middle piece of geometry is a hypercube, isn't it? Isn't that a four-dimensional cube? I don't know. A tesseract?
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2327 - AJ Gentile
That seems like that would take a long time to do. Stonehenge is under constant surveillance, and circles show up overnight. Very weird stuff. There's an interesting conspiracy. I mean, what the fuck, dude?
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2327 - AJ Gentile
Ley lines. Ley lines. That they're happening on these segments of energy that intersect. What is that black and white one, Jamie?
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2327 - AJ Gentile
That's the theory. Have you heard about ley lines? Kind of. It's this alleged grid of energy that circles the earth. And almost like how magnetic fields work. And these energy lines have intersection points. And on these intersection points are things like Stonehenge, Giza. Whoa. It's in snow on a mountain in France. Wow. Where are the tracks in? Whoa.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2327 - AJ Gentile
So the artist angle is a conspiracy angle. There's a man named John Lundberg who was part of a group called CircleMakers.org, which is an art project and also... a sociology experiment. He would make fake crop circles to see how people would react. Years later, Lundberg and some associates created a documentary called Mirage Men, which is an excellent documentary.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2327 - AJ Gentile
It's mostly about Richard Doty and his disinformation campaign on behalf of the Air Force to discredit the UFO community. Drove Paul Benowitz nuts. Bill Moore, who's the guy who essentially brought Roswell out to the public, Bill Moore was taking payments and being fed information from Doty to muddy the waters in the UFO community.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2327 - AJ Gentile
He finally came clean in 89, was booed off the stage at MUFON, and everything just unraveled. So it's all disinfo. They booed him off the stage? Because he finally said, look, I've been working with the government. A lot of the stuff I've been saying, they told me to say, Majestic 12, all this stuff was coming from Doty. And they didn't want to hear it. They didn't want to hear it.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2327 - AJ Gentile
It's supposed to be a multi-month mission, maybe six months. They get down there and in like a matter of weeks, maybe even fewer, they just bail. And no one really knows why. There's a press contingent there. No one knows what's going on. And Admiral Byrd starts giving these weird interviews, and the first one was in Spanish. It might have been either Argentinian or Brazilian newspaper.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2327 - AJ Gentile
Bill Moore. There was no Roswell story before Moore, before his book. And that was Dodie. So the documentary about Dodie was directed and put together by Lundberg and his associates. Lundberg was one of the original circle makers that would make these fake crop circles to see how people would react. I just thought it was an interesting connection.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2327 - AJ Gentile
Really, though? If there were crop circles in my backyard, I would be a little nervous.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2327 - AJ Gentile
Whatever, a mystical energy. It's not a scientific energy. And where the lines intersect is where you see sites like Machu Picchu, Giza, Stonehenge, all these ancient... Besides, there's the ley lines. But ley lines is – it's semi-debunkable because if you connect enough lines, you're going to find patterns. You're going to find geometry.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2327 - AJ Gentile
What do you think it is? I don't know. I think it's beyond us. We're just monkeys trying to guess math. I don't know. Every time we make a guess on this show, someone's laughing. Of course. Someone's like, they think it's a landing site.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2327 - AJ Gentile
It would take people so long. It would never be that accurate. Yeah. With, you know, with ropes and boards. You know, I just don't see it. Right.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2327 - AJ Gentile
You know, it was a hoax, but a great crop circle was the Arecibo response. Do you know that one?
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2327 - AJ Gentile
And he talks about how there could be these craft that attack the United States from the poles and craft that can fly pole to pole. And people are like, what's that? And just sparked this crazy stuff. And you can hear him talking about these things. So High Jump goes down there to look for stuff. We don't really know why they left. Admiral Byrd was talking about these crafts?
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2327 - AJ Gentile
That was a great one. We sent the Arecibo message out. It had all the symbols on it. And it sent it back with like a half an alien face. Right. And it showed where in their solar system they lived, what their DNA was like. Yeah, it was a great one.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2327 - AJ Gentile
I don't know who did it. I don't know if it was Circle Makers. I don't know who it was, but it was a hoax. But it was like a really well thought out one.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2327 - AJ Gentile
Right, and that's a message in that circle. That spiral is a message. Look at that one to the right. There's the Arecibo response down there with the humanoid face. Yeah, that's it.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2327 - AJ Gentile
That's why the worst question is, what do you think it is?
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2327 - AJ Gentile
Yeah. And when you find out something's debunked, how do you feel?
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2327 - AJ Gentile
And the way that they alternate lights, it looks like there's an intelligence to it.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2327 - AJ Gentile
No. Gino has. What did he say? And I think maybe Jeremiah said he saw the same thing. Gino saw a giant orb of light over the Pacific Ocean, and he watched it for a long time. And I said, where's the photo of it? And he said, I was so in awe, I didn't even think to get out my phone. I was like, man. But that's a common thing.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2327 - AJ Gentile
thing you hear right is you're just so in awe you don't think I gotta right selfie this right you probably if you actually saw something there's a high probability that you'd be so freaked out you'd be just in the moment like what yep and you know Gino's legit he's not he's not a bullshit artist
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2327 - AJ Gentile
Admiral Richard E. Byrd, this famous guy, flew the North Pole like a super badass. He was on paper the commanding officer, but he preferred to just fly his plane and do stuff. So the legend is they get down there. Admiral Byrd takes his plane, starts flying across Antarctica and sees patches of green. He doesn't, can't believe it. And he's on the radio saying, I'm seeing this rolling hills.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2327 - AJ Gentile
And now it doesn't. Now it just looks like blurry water. Yeah, like why does it look different now? Like what's going on? With a gun to my head, all the weird stuff is in the ocean. It's not from another planet. Really? No, I don't know. Who knows? But it makes a lot more sense that the stuff we're seeing, it's the best place to hide is just deep water.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2327 - AJ Gentile
It's hard for me to square how to travel great distances. It's hard for me to square that. I know that we've got the Albuquerque Drive and Warp Drive and all these theoretical things about compressing space-time and all of that. I get it. But it's hard for me to think that that's solvable. But what is interesting is maybe another species evolved alongside of us a long time ago.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2327 - AJ Gentile
And has been here a long time and said, you know what, let's go – this is where we go to avoid cataclysms and geological instability.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2327 - AJ Gentile
So like we would turn off a nuclear reactor. Yeah. Right. So we talk about humans. If this theory is true that they evolved here, there were no humans. Humans are 300,000 years old. It would take whatever species a lot longer than that to evolve to this technological level. We've seen the craft just zip into water with no displacement. Right. Where are they going?
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2327 - AJ Gentile
And there are unnamed whistleblowers, anonymous sources that say there's a base near the Bermuda Triangle. The Navy knows about it. They know not to get close. It moves around a little bit. I'm going to do an episode on it soon because it's just too good not to. Corroborated by another biologist who said he worked with the retrieval team and yes, there's stuff. And what this base does is it –
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2327 - AJ Gentile
It from raw materials creates craft to go on specific missions. So there's always the question, you know, why is there a saucer? Why does it look like a pyramid? Why is it this? It's because they're custom built for a mission. And there's an AI and a species down there. And they say, oh, we're going to go survey Mount Haze in Alaska. Super, super fascinating place.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2327 - AJ Gentile
So we only need a scanning gear, some propulsion, and we just build it. It fits in an orb, send it out, does its thing, comes back, and then it gets broken down to its parts. And then another mission, build it up. It's going to be a triangle. It's going to be this or that. Does its mission, comes back.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2327 - AJ Gentile
To me, that makes good sense, a good way to do that, a good way to conserve resources, not have to go out and get stuff. I like the theory. It's a fun theory. It's a fun theory, yeah.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2327 - AJ Gentile
It would be a good place to hide in plain sight. That's what I would do. And to make things from raw materials, meaning like molecular level stuff, I mean you're totally off grid. We don't need to strip mine. We got everything here.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2327 - AJ Gentile
Sun is shining. He keeps flying. It gets greener and greener. And then he's like, I just saw woolly mammoths, woolly mammoths grazing in the green. And he keeps going and he's on the radio. And then he's talking, I'm seeing all this stuff. The sun is bright. And then radio contact goes out. He's flying and flying. Suddenly he's engulfed in light and he doesn't know where he is.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2327 - AJ Gentile
I think you have to get into interdimensionality then and all. It gets a little wild. But if you're not displacing air or water, that means you're phasing through matter. Right.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2327 - AJ Gentile
Right. Look at how when they do missile tests from subs, how those things are just like, ah, trying to get out of the water. Yeah.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2327 - AJ Gentile
Right. Which means heat signature or mass. Right. Or electromagnetic displacement. Right.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2327 - AJ Gentile
You know, that would be plasma, so that was hot, if that's what it is. But when they go into the water, we see them under the water for a second, and you don't see any refraction. Right. So that kind of screws up the holographic projection theory a little bit because there's no light refraction.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2327 - AJ Gentile
So how did you do that? Yeah. No, I'm asking you how you do that.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2327 - AJ Gentile
Of course, and from the inertia it can be done. Now, if I were doing an episode on Tic Tac or Go Fast or Gimbal, I would be remiss if I didn't include Mick West's analysis of those. And I know you've talked to Mick on and off throughout the years.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2327 - AJ Gentile
He approaches it as it's definitely fake, and I'm going to show you why.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2327 - AJ Gentile
Who are you working for? Everyone thinks we're CIA, by the way. Me and you? Oh, yeah. Reddit is convinced I'm CIA. Oh. Me too? That's why my channel blew up in two and a half years. Because of CIA?
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2327 - AJ Gentile
The green is behind him. He's just flying in light, just trying to get his bearings. And then up beside him, two flying saucers just kind of next to him. Almost like, you know, the F-16 is trying to wave you down. Two flying saucers. And he looks over and they have swastikas on him. And he's like, uh-oh. So he's on the stick and he feels the stick shaking and then the stick just goes dead.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2327 - AJ Gentile
Dude, I remember just watching you in little squares on Ustream, just like the top of your head, and Brian and Duncan. I mean, that's what I... Gino's like, you've got to watch Joe Rogan's show on Ustream. I'm like, what are you talking about? He's a comic. He's like, he's got Graham Hancock on. And I went, oh, I've got to watch that. And that's when I started watching.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2327 - AJ Gentile
Randall Carlson, Robert Shock, John F. West. If I were advising Graham, I would have said, don't do that debate. Don't do it. There's no way to come off. You're not going to convince anybody. And you're just going to come off not looking great. And I've seen his response on his own site. He's even said that was probably a mistake. He wasn't prepared enough.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2327 - AJ Gentile
But you'll never be prepared enough for a professional debunker. You just won't be. They'll have too much. So I would have told him, don't go into the lion's den.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2327 - AJ Gentile
Well, you know, I watched a little of Zaya Wass on here. That's all you need, just a little for that episode. You get it. I couldn't believe he's still doing it. I mean, maybe he was around when they actually built the things.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2327 - AJ Gentile
He didn't mention the capstones, the limestone facing from Tor. He didn't even talk about it.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2327 - AJ Gentile
And then he goes down with the UFOs and they just land into a cavern in the hollow earth. Right. So that's how that happens. And they take Admiral Byrd out and they're tall aliens.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2327 - AJ Gentile
The Aslan stones are from Tor. 1,200 miles away. Yeah. You know, the tour stones are, I don't know, 20, 30 miles away or whatever they were.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2327 - AJ Gentile
Baalbek, they can't – how many tons is that? You need a person standing on it to even see the size of it. You've never seen the Baalbek stone if you're listening. The thing is it's like a skyscraper on its side. Yeah. And it's one solid piece.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
15 feet high, 30, 40 feet long. I mean, they're shown in metric, so I'm confused.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
And allegedly giants built that. Derinkuyu and all the hidden cities underneath Cappadocia and Turkey that they're finding are connected.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
They can bring fresh water from the aquifers. They can bring fresh air and circulate it. They have defensive mechanisms with these giant stones, and nobody knows how they made them?
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
So that would be like flying through an asteroid field like the Leonids or the Perseids or the Taurids. So the remnants of some giant object that is rubble and we just fly through it, which means we fly through it frequently.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
That's over Siberia. And that was an airburst, I believe, because there's no impact crater.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
But it flattened like millions of square miles of trees. And still fucked to this day.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
Yeah. Yeah. There's images of that if you want to look up that. There's actual like film of it. It's crazy. It looks like a bomb went off.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
And NASA says we track most of them. Because in those fields with the proceeds towards, there are big objects. There are Earth killers in there. Oh, yeah. You know, and Apophis is lurking. Apophis is the big one. That's due to fly by in a few years. What's that one? That's a giant asteroid that's—I think it's due to fly by maybe 2030-something. How big is that one? I'll get it wrong.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
I mean, I'm going to say a million things wrong today. I'll hear all about it. But it's a planet killer. Like, it's a civilization ender. And it's going to fly near—like, we're going to be able to see it during the day.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
250 to 300. So we're going to see that. Wow. You don't want to look up and see that?
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
All right, Chick-fil-A, but that was pseudoscience until that father or son went down there and found it. And that wasn't that – I think that was – when I was growing up, the dinosaurs died. That was a conspiracy theory, the asteroid. Right. And they found it, I think, around 1980.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
For thousands of years. Yeah. A positive symbol of life and prosperity. We don't know how they were oriented because I debunked all this. I'm telling you the legend. Right. Because that's kind of my format, right? Right, right, right. I get you excited. We should explain that to people. You get everybody all jazzed up and at the end you kind of. I get so much heat for it. Yeah, it's fun.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
I don't know. It became a saying on the show. I even have a t-shirt. The moon is weird. Gino's my weird topic guy. It's like, what should we talk about? He's like, do hollow moon. So I went into that story thinking, this is the dumbest shit I've ever heard. The moon is hollow. And I'm doing the research. About halfway through, I'm like, hmm, the moon is weird. And then by the end of my research...
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
I was convinced that clearly the moon is a hollow spaceship that was brought here from another part of the galaxy. And it's here and the lizard people are absorbing our soul energy. That's the only explanation for it. Probably not true, but man, the moon is very weird.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
Right. It's like a 400 to 1 race. It's exact. It's nuts. But you could debunk that by saying the moon is getting further and further away. Right. But why is it perfect? I mean, we have not found a planet in this solar system or anywhere else that has a giant moon right next to it. Quarter the size of the Earth. We haven't found it. Yeah. We're the only one with it.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
And there are ancient legends that talk about a moonless sky and when the moon arrived and when it arrived, it caused a great flood.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
Ancient Indian texts will have it, but also native legends will have it about a moonless sky, and then the moon arrives. When do they think the moon arrived? It's hard to tell. I always go to Younger Dryas, but who really knows? The earth was apparently just covered in this haze, just very wet, very hazy, maybe like Venus or something like that.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
Then the moon arrives, and all that water from the atmosphere drops down to earth, and The tidal forces are crazy. There's a huge flood and everything just settles. And then the moon is here. And the moon is now like the guardian of the planet, which it really is. We couldn't really survive without it. Because it stabilizes our atmosphere, right? Stabilizes us. Stabilizes our orbit.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
Our orbit and our spin and our axis. When there's a major earthquake, the earth changes speed. Like measurably if there's a big earthquake. And if there's a lot of those, that could throw you off the axis, but the moon steps in like a bouncer and it settles things back down.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
And I watch the numbers. Like as soon as I say, but is it true? Like everyone's done. Nobody wants to know the truth. They want to know fun. And then I'll get the hate mail. You ruined it for me. So what is the truth? The truth is a lot of that comes from Admiral Byrd's diary, which was discovered years later, which was not his diary. Oh. Right. Horseshit. Horseshit.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
I don't think they care about us. Really? No, I don't think so. How come? Again, we're in very speculative territory because nobody knows. Right. But I would think it would just be for resources. Hey, this place has a lot of stable water.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
It's a Lucian show who wrote the three body problem and all those dark forest theory says that. If you attain a certain level of technology, the best thing you can do is just be quiet because the universe is a dark forest and the first person to stick his head out dies because you don't want a competitor in your region.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
So as soon as a culture gets close to some technology that could make that they're on a path to threaten you, you got to take them out. You got to halt their technology. And three-body problem is kind of based on that. That's what they do in the books. And that seems to make a little more sense to me than sort of this altruistic, hey, let's help them, the Star Trek approach.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
Let's make first contact and all of that. I like – human nature is a tricky thing. We're very selfish. You and I might want to see those people and help them along, but there's a lot of people that would not want a competitor in the neighborhood.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
And there's circumstantial evidence that that's true. If you look at Bell Labs and all the crazy discoveries after Roswell, like we're using cathode ray tubes and suddenly transistors are made and silicon semiconductors and wireless transmission. And Bell Labs is all these leaps forward. Fiber optics. Fiber optics. Laser technology came out of Bell as well.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
And the retrieval experts say that fiber optics and lasers for sure is reverse engineered technology. And it kind of makes a lot of sense because it seemed to have come out of nowhere. Suddenly Bell Labs has it. My question is where is the stuff? We've got World War II. We go into Korea in 1950. And at the time – Russia had the MiG-15 was basically on par with us.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
I think we had the F-86 at the time, and MiG might have even been better. So that would have been a great time for some advanced tech. But America did catch up and exceed the Soviets about 51, 52 during Korea and then has been superior ever since. But you would think that after 47, with the Soviets there, let's get some of this anti-gravitic stuff going.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
You would show clips all the time and it would drive Gino nuts. And then finally it got named. Reggie Watts was here. And he's like, you ever hear of the Y-Files? You guys are talking about moon landing shit. And you're like, what's that? And I don't know, a week or two later, Gina gets a text. Are you the Y-Files? He didn't tell me the name of it.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
And he flew the North Pole, not the South Pole. But here's the interesting thing. He was in a single-man aircraft that only had so much fuel. He was, which can only fly for a little bit, he was out of radio contact for three hours. Nobody knows where he went. What was his take on it? We don't really know.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
It looks like there's a neural interface maybe. You know, you hear a lot of the scientists, their frustration, like, if I could just talk to these guys.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
You know, I'm picking up an EM field from this. The metallurgist would be helpful here telling me what's going on. You know, I keep coming across spinning mercury all the time. Spinning mercury. The spinning mercury engine has been – part of the lore since ancient India has the Vimanas, you know, those craft. If you look at the ancient texts, it may have been in the Mahabharata.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
But they allude to this liquid metal. And then you fast forward to the Nazis building the bell, the D-Glock. That was a mercury engine. And then we fast forward a little further. Mark McCandlish and the ARV vehicle, the flux liner, that's a spinning mercury engine. So spinning mercury keeps popping up. And spinning mercury would cause some type of field.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
What that would be, I'm not a scientist or physicist, I'm not sure, but it would certainly throw off a bunch of ions that could maybe be harnessed or used for something.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
And that's the frustration about disclosure is how far could we be by now? Right. Had there been disclosure in 47 or whatever.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
Well, if you look at what Doty did in the 70s and 80s with Paul Benowitz, when Benowitz discovered this advanced technology on Kirtland Air Force Base— He called the base and said, hey, I think there's UFOs. So they send Doty out. He was Air Force Intelligence, OSI. They send him out to Benowitz, and he's like, Paul, I think it might be UFOs. It is aliens.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
It's like he did that interview as soon as they got back and then something must have happened because he got real quiet. But he would go on TV and he would talk. But the pole-to-pole thing was he was just warning that the poles are a vulnerable space. Like we need to keep an eye on the North Pole because if there's a base on North or South Pole, you can attack from there.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
And Paul gets a little bit wacky, and he starts intercepting signals from outer space, and they're sending him messages. But it turned out it's really the NSA rented a house across the street. Wow. Paul is committed at some point. And then Doty over the years changes his story and says, no, a lot of it is actually true.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
But Doty has also – he said as recently as 2019, Hal Puthoff tried to recruit him for a disinformation campaign with ATEM.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
Just to keep guys like you and me fascinated and trying to figure stuff out while they can just operate their advanced technology in peace. Like, let them think it's aliens and UFOs. That's fine. What a dirty thing to do to us.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
In the 50s, they were very public about anti-gravity. It was in the papers. You know, the G engine. They were talking about it. And then suddenly, quiet.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
Yep. So that was AC Gravity, if you guys want to look that up. She used to give talks and all of that. She was funded by DOD for $400,000, so we know that for sure. And then she just goes dark. She goes dark for 11 years, shows up, I think, in 2013. She's back. 2014, she gets hit by a car. Why is it so fun? I don't know.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
I don't think enough people are interested in it, to be honest.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
Yes, that's true. They're angry about independent media.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
Which is crazy. It's bonkers. We can't live in that society.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
They lost already. They just don't know it yet, but they lost.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
They lost a long time ago. I'm going to put out an episode about how dragons are real, and when I get to the debunk, I'm going to say, nothing, they're real, peace out.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
This is like the DEWs. The U.S. has always been fascinated. Direct energy weapons. That's where the HAARP conspiracies come from and all of that. And if you don't know what HAARP is, that's the High Altitude Aroral Research Project. This array of antennas in Alaska that's built by the U.S. government to study the ionosphere. But for some reason it costs hundreds of millions of dollars.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
And it would make total sense. I mean, SRI would be another good example of that, right, where Hal was in the 70s, Project Stargate and all of that.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
We're never going to see the list. Stop asking me. You're not going to see the list. Why not? Because everybody, all your heroes are on it, and they're on it a lot. It's never coming out.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
I'm skeptical about a lot of the whistleblowers, especially the ones that come out of Air Force intelligence and all that.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
Even when I'm talking to them, I'm like, hmm. Well, I mean I have – I kind of have that needle of skepticism and it starts with do you have a background in intelligence? Yes. Military intelligence. Air Force intelligence. Are you still on the payroll? Did you get your information cleared from the Pentagon?
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
And it all goes, did you release some photos that were fake?
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
Then you go Bob Lazar. He has none of that stuff. Did the government target you? Did they try to discredit you? Have you been ostracized? When Lazar came out, I think it was to George Knapp, he didn't say his name. He didn't have any books. The first book I think was with him and Jeremy in 2019. So Lazar to me is the most credible book. of the whistleblowers. Right.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
But Jeremy and George just had a whistleblower a couple of weeks ago who's pretty credible. He's a young guy. He's clearly nervous. And he has some very interesting information about what is an immaculate constellation. Which guy is this? I don't remember his name. It's very new. Is that the bald guy? No. No. The bald guy, I think, is Air Force intelligence. This is a kid whose career is ruined.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
And he's maybe in his 20s. And you can see he's clearly nervous.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
His claim is that he was going through some files. You know, he's got top secret clearance and he found the Immaculate Constellation project, basically a PowerPoint presentation. And his job was just to sort these files. And he's looking through it and suddenly it's like, whoa, this is about recovery and alien craft.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
And he did the right thing and went to his superiors and said, you know, there's a leakage. I saw information I maybe wasn't supposed to. I'm just letting you know. And his superiors were like, eh, forget about it. And he's like, and that was it. It's just no reprimand, no nothing. I just went back to work. But he was too fascinated by the document, so he kept pursuing it and pursuing it.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
And now he talks about it. I don't know his name, but if you track down, you know, Jeremy and George, you'll find it easily. That's the kid.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
And when you look at it, you're like, where'd the money go? It's like a building's a box and there's a bunch of antennas. Where I'm getting at is this is an array that can ionize parts of the atmosphere. So I did an episode on Project Bluebeam, which is a conspiracy about how the United Nations or the shadow government will create these holograms in the sky.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
Right, like the drone scare. Remember that? That was very manufactured, and the press was all over it. We don't know where the drones are. They're all flying over the military bases, all that stuff.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
I know what it was. I've seen the NOTAM reports. Do you know what a NOTAM is?
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
That's a notice to airmen, so pilots, private pilots, get warning of no-fly zones. And... Usually you'll see a lot of swaths carved out like Air Force Ones flying through. But for some reason, these NOTAM reports have all these little circles all around that you can't fly through where the drones were. And I've seen that. And when did the drones – they suddenly stopped. When?
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
Right before Inauguration Day. Yeah. And no one talks about the drones anymore.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
So you think they did it as a psyop just to see how people would react? I do. And remember, I know nothing. Right. But that is my opinion is that it was a psyop. And that most of this is.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
But if that was the reason to get us ready, it backfired because it freaked people out. People were very nervous about it. So our military installations are vulnerable. People were very frightened.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
And Wright-Patterson is like ground zero for all of it, Project Blue Book. Roswell went there. The second crash.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
The second crash was some miles north and west of there. And you'll hear Doty talk about it. And that's where other pilots were recovered. I think a total of five or six. Pilots? The EBEs. The EBEs. And according to Doty and others, one of the EBEs stayed with the government, I think in Los Alamos, for five years until 1952. That was EBA 1 or whatever. He liked strawberry ice cream. Who doesn't?
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
Who doesn't, right? That'd be the first thing I'd do if I went to Planet Serpo is, what's the ice cream like here?
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
Like, what are the odds of that? Well, you know, the theories are, you know, we never see alien shit or whatever. But there's always a rebuttal is that, you know, they have a metabolism that absorbs nutrients and their waste is recycled and all of that stuff.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
And that will force one world government. We can get into it if you want to. But I kind of debunk it saying holograms need a substrate. You know, you need clouds. Glass is really what you need. But then the technology has gotten to the point where you can ionize atmosphere and create things in the atmosphere. So something like HAARP conceivably could create something up there. Something visual.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
And why are the eyes so big and black? Because you're evolved underground. Yeah.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
I think there was one retrieval story that had that. Like, one of the black eyes was half open that they thought it might have been something. Like a little shield? Like a shield. Like, that's a legit recovery story. I can't remember it offhand.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
You know, it's an interesting point that you brought up about Neanderthals is—and a lot of people don't know that just about 50,000 years ago— Neanderthals had basically an empire over all of Europe. For hundreds of thousands of years. For hundreds of thousands of years. And then suddenly, boom, they're defeated by frail, weak, hairless humans out of caves.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
And it's attributed to we figured out a bow and arrow. We could harass from a distance projectile weapons. And that's how we defeated this vast empire of Neanderthals who were not stupid. You know, who were— Bigger brains than ours. Bigger brains than ours. They had art, culture, music. They trained in warfare. They had organized warfare.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
I mean, can you imagine staring down the barrel of a division of organized Neanderthals coming at you? Right. Like, essentially super athletes. Yes. With chimpanzee-like strength. Right. And speed. Yeah. And intelligence. And we came out of the caves and defeated them.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
And we know that we have some of their DNA in us. And when you hear, oh, we interbred with them, that's not precisely how it went down most likely. It's most likely the women were carried away. That's how the interbreeding happened. Yikes. Uh-huh. Yikes.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
But you could still overwhelm a few archers with just – we would just throw bodies at it. Now, warfare has been fought like that for humans forever.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
But don't Neanderthal brains, even though they were larger, had fewer convolutions? Oh, really? Do we know that? That's part of my research, which, you know, most of it's bullshit. But that's what I read. You know, large brain, but not as powerful.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
Something visual. And I've heard people say that, you know, the UAPs, UFOs may not be real. They could just be holograms for some reason.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
Just the fact that you can produce music tells me so much about your brain. And they produced music? They produced music and art. How do we know that? We found relics and artifacts of it. Of musical instruments? Instruments and cave writing and all that stuff. They used needles and thread to make clothing. Really? Mm-hmm. Wow. Yeah, very strange that we beat them.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
Neanderthal flute. Some sort of flute. Whoa, a bone flute.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
It's like with the anti-gravity. Why can't we cooperate with the Chinese? Yeah, nope. Well, we know how to do that.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
Yeah. Yeah, and there's even the different branches, like Cro-Magnon is not really from our branch. Really? Yeah, we branch from a different branch.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
So they disappeared around the same time as the Antilles 50,000 years ago.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
Well, I mean, 99% of species that ever existed are gone.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
I don't know how many dinosaur complete fossils we have. Like a T-Rex, I don't even think we have a complete one yet. But one or two billion T-Rexes lived and died on the planet. We have a couple of skeletons.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
Very little. And it's very difficult to even dig there. I mean, what's happening in Turkey is a shame with Gobekli Tepe, you know, just paving over it and planting orchards on top of it.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
I like him and I know him pretty well. He's great. The Turkish government, I think, has banned him and is trying to get him in trouble here, trying to get him sanctioned. Sanctioned? How do you sanction a guy off YouTube? For what? Look, when CNN was going after you and they were trying to get Spotify to cancel you...
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
creators like me who go against kind of mainstream were very nervous because like if youtube just pulled my show i'm kind of right um so it's like if they could take down joe we're done yeah but they you know spotify with a lot of respect hung fast yeah we've talked about that like if i wasn't on spotify and i was only on youtube at the time i might have been because they were taking people down for actual real truthful information
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
Still no apologies. No. But it was a risky time to be non-politically correct before it was safe to.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
I mean, we knew that all of this, it was just intuitive. Mm-hmm.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
Well, because you're just vibrating air molecules. So in Project Blue Beam, the energy comes from a satellite array. So can satellites do that yet? If it can, they won't tell us.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
And they had awards through their careers, highly revered and respected.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
Yes. And when it was very early on, I forget even what paper – I had released an op-ed in some paper criticizing a lot of this and lockdowns. Like my dojo was closed down. It was – Trying to fight with masks on. So I was angry. And then within weeks of that, it suddenly became politicized. And I was like, now I'm fucked. Now it's a political issue. How is this a political issue? Right. But it was.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
It was politicized. And I don't know why. I don't know why. I don't know why it was all shut down.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
It definitely worked. Where my wife was working, it was a mandatory vaccine situation, but it... She was working remotely, so didn't really have to get it. But I can see that the narrative was starting to catch with her. And I'm like, honey, hold fast. This is a story. It was a left-wing company, and they're just following the narrative. They don't just hold fast and don't get that shot.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
Here's the good news is the irony of COVID is the forces that were forcing us to be locked down and stay home gave rise to independent creators and journalists and independent thinkers and folks like you. And because of their forcing the lockdowns, they destroyed their own industry. And there's no going back. I mean, I haven't watched MSNBC or Fox News in years.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
And that's, you know, that's Bluebeam is supposed to get rid of religion because what will happen, according to the legend, is the hollow rooms will manifest as whatever deity is dominant in the area, whether it's Jesus or Buddha, whomever.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
And you turn it on, it's like, oh, this is just, I hear the same stuff from the left and the right. I just hear the same stuff. I get my news from YouTube, from all different sources, and that's what I want. And they destroyed their own industry.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
General Butler, yeah, the business plot general. Yeah. Yeah, he was a very, very honest guy.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
Yeah, if you guys don't know, the business plot is worth looking into. They tried to recruit him to overthrow the government. Yeah. Yeah. Because he had all the troops at his disposal.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
atheists will see different things and people will just freak out nationalism will go away atheists will see different things like why because according to the legend the the array or with the technology wouldn't will manipulate your mind again harp has been accused of this because you can manipulate someone's mind with electromagnetic frequencies and the right frequencies
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
Well, let's connect – let's go back to Butler for a quick second. You've got Tesla who gets funded by JP Morgan to create wireless technology, but Tesla gets a little ambitious and says – I'm going to do wireless communication, but I'm going to take your $150,000. I'm going to do wireless energy. We'll do free energy around the world. And Morgan's like, how do you put a meter on that?
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
Tesla's like, what do you mean? Propel mankind forward. Morgan pulls his funding, tells everyone in the investment class, this guy's a kook, and if you invest with him, you don't do business with me. A few years later, Wardenclyffe Tower gets torn down. Tesla dies in poverty. And where are those 20 boxes? Yeah. And why was the government so quick to respond to that crime scene?
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
Yeah, they showed up at that guy's house quick. They gathered up all that information. I wonder what they got from that. Uncle John Trump there was in charge of that. Yeah, right. What did they get in those boxes?
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
That's what Trump would look like if he didn't do the comb-over. Wasn't he working at a Wright-Patterson as well?
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
Dun, dun, dun. So Nixon exposes UFOs to a civilian, and then it does not go well for Richard Nixon after that.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
So they could just tell you to see something. So like that specific? That specific. Allegedly. Now, I debunk a lot of it because the story originally came from a Canadian journalist named Serge Manasse, fascinating figure. He comes out with this theory that's bonkers. And then the Canadian government takes his kids away because they're homeschooled. He gets harassed by authorities.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
I'm more on the hmm side. I think he's the most credible whistleblower because he – Didn't profit from it. Didn't profit. And they – I mean they prosecuted him for running a prostitution ring.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
How soon after that raid was – 115 is now called Moscovium. How soon after that raid was 115 synthesized? I think it was synthesized in Russia.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
I don't know. Are they working to stabilize it? You know, I don't know what's going on behind the scenes, man. Why would they raid Bob Lazar? That's that spectrum of believability again. Here's a guy who's being attacked and tormented.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
I mean, I just had my first IRS audit. I don't know how you're doing. Oh, what'd you do? I didn't do anything.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
Most problematic for me are probably the CIA ones. The one I did that ended with the Agent Orange kind of expose was kind of a dangerous one. It was the dark history of DARPA. and all the bad stuff that DARPA's done since its founding. It's done some horrible, horrible, horrible stuff. And that was an episode I was afraid to release. There's been a couple of those.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
MKUltra I was kind of afraid to release, because I name names. A scary one was... how Lyme disease might have been a lab leak. Yeah, that's a weird one. Bobby Kennedy fully believes that. Eric Traub was like the chief Nazi biowarfare specialist that was brought here, Operation Paperclip.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
some ticks got out so it's you know when you look at Lyme Connecticut as ground zero and it just spreads from there and there was no Lyme disease before that's a scary one to release yeah but whenever I get into Operation Paperclip I always hammer home these are Nazis you know Wernher von Braun is not a hero he's a hero but he's not a hero you know a lot of these guys these are all evil dudes and most of the Operation Paperclip is just bringing over intelligence assets they don't like talking about that
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
He gets hauled off to jail for spreading disinformation, dies of a heart attack the next day. So then, of course, that's just like that lights the fuse. What what did he find? So and he talked very publicly about all of this. So that's supposedly how it happens is they manipulate our minds. They show us what we want to see. And then it's not like we won't resist authority. We'll beg for it.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
It's the 1,200 scientists that we learn about. It's not the 6,000 intelligence agents that just lived here until the 70s and 80s. Right.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
And SS Nazi. So the V-1 rocket program killed 3,000 people in London, but killed 30,000 Jewish slaves building the rocket. You know, 10 times more people died building the thing. Yeah. And if you didn't work hard enough in the rocket factory, they would just hang you from the rafters. But Von Braun said he didn't know anything about it. And all of his team said, we didn't know anything about it.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
Well, every time I bring up someone who's from there, I just remind everybody, these are Nazis, these are liars, these are bad dudes. That doesn't mean they didn't do amazing things for America because you could do both. Yeah, that's what's weird. The V-1 rocket eventually becomes Saturn V, which takes us to the moon, allegedly. Allegedly. Allegedly.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
Yes, and I talk to Bart from time to time. Boy, he's all in. All in. For decades. Eventually I'm going to do a conversation podcast, and he'll be one of the first guys I have on.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
I need to look at it. Oh, yeah. Yeah. He still emails me and I'm like, Bart, I'll have you on. I'm just I'm still building the studio.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
He might be. I debunk a lot of his claims, which one? Not all of them, you know, like the parallel shadows and and. how a shadow on the moon should be completely black, but that's not really true, and shadows... Well, things are reflective, and the surface is reflective.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
They don't work that way. Shadows disappear to the horizon. Right. There are no parallel shadows.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
It looks like it's on a string. It looks so fake. The camera tracks it nicely.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
We'll just beg to take our freedom, take our rights, keep us safe.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
And then... Well, let's go back and look at the original films and maybe we'll learn something. Oh, they don't have them anymore. Gone. They're gone.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
Oh, okay. The episode I did on the moon, which is a fun one, I even have a NASA scientist saying we don't know how to redo the technology. We just lost it. Didn't write anything down or nothing. And then there's the reality of the Van Allen radiation belts. That's true. That could be explained scientifically. Can it?
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
The radiation is high particles, high voltage, all that, but they're spread wide apart, so you just got to go really fast through them. Right, but it took hours to get through it. It did. It did, but they still were moving fast.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
Right. And now, thanks to that, we've got the South Atlantic anomaly, where there's just no protection anymore. We appreciate all that.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
There's only one way to know. Detonate it. And something like Bikini Atoll, which I think was Castle Bravo, was like three times more powerful than they thought. You know, it's like we're going for 10 kilotons, but we got 30? Dude, you got to carry the one. Be careful. Just be careful. Carry the one. I don't even know why we messed with it.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
That money's not enough. But gun to the head. Gun to the head. Gun to the head. We went to the moon without people. That's what I would go with. But let me preface by saying, my head, I'm like a bobblehead. I go back and forth, and I can be convinced one way or the other. It's a very complicated issue.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
Yeah. Weird. It's a good episode. I get into all of that. I cover Bart. Buzz Aldrin knows how to throw a shot. Kind of.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
There's no – I don't know why. If we could 3D print anything, why don't we send a 3D printer up into orbit and then every time Elon launches a Starlink, just bring some substrate, bring some wire and just deliver it there. Every time – because you're going to do 10,000 of them. Just bring some wire, bring some wire, bring some aluminum. Yeah. and we can just build the stuff in orbit.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
We don't have to worry about escaping gravity. Just build stuff up, 3D print stuff in orbit.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
It fills up the whole window, and they even say in that film... We've got the camera right up against the window. No one can get in between it. But then someone walks in between the camera and the thing. Someone walks by, and then you see what looks like a piece of plastic go whoosh, and then everything opens up.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
And we don't even have a direct feed because they broadcast the feed on a wall and then pointed a TV camera at the wall. Yeah. And that's what we see.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
Because the networks were like, hey, can we get the live feed? NASA's like, ah, you don't need that.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
As soon as the Chinese start mining helium-2 or whatever, we'll get there.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
In my episode on the face on Mars, I show exactly how NASA copy and pasted cloud formations. You literally see it's the same cloud formations. And then you see the Mars photos. They copy and pasted chunks on Mars. They did that. Like, I didn't make that up. What do you mean by that? They copy and pasted chunks on Mars? You've got this Martian rock face.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
Cydonia is where the face was and the alleged city. What about that square? And the square's crazy. The square? But that's a recent one that we've been seeing. Yep. That one's nuts. Cydonia was one of the original landing places. And they changed it at the last minute. Why? Land there and go to the face. Let's see.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
Because if you don't know the story about the face on Mars, the first image is it does look like a face, and then suddenly the images got blurrier, and then it was just kind of a plateau. It was, you know, pareidolia. It wasn't really a face.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
Well, then land there. Drive, you know, Sojourner over there, whatever.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
We should. I mean, they're finally admitting that Mars used to have an atmosphere and oceans, giant oceans.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
Remember they sent Joe McMoneagle to remote view back on Mars. Oh, what did he say? He said he saw giant tall beings there in a very advanced society. And Joe McMoneagle was part of the Project Stargate remote viewer. So he goes into his thing and he's drawing the aliens and the cities and all of that. But he didn't know where he was looking. They wouldn't tell you at first. And then he's done.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
He comes out of his transfer, whatever, opens the envelope and it says Mars with coordinates 1 million B.C. or something. He said he saw stuff. And Stargate, again, Ingo Swann saw all kinds of stuff on the far side of the moon, which I don't hear covered a lot with Ingo. But he remote viewed the moon because he always wanted to do more stuff. He's like, I don't want to look at a bridge.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
I want to go to the moon. And he said he saw... Structures on the far side of the moon that sound a lot like Carl Wolf disclosed in 2001. What did he disclose? Carl Wolf, Air Force airman. He's basically a technician. Think of a Xerox repairman. He has to fix some imaging equipment for NASA slash DOD. It's images from the moon surveyor. So he goes in. It's a dark room. The guy's working there.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
The guy's like, Carl, look at this. It's pictures of the dark side of the moon. He sees domes, towers, roads, all kinds of stuff. He can't believe it. And Carl goes home, and he told his wife, I can't wait to see this on the news. This is crazy what we found. Like, this is civilization on the moon. And it just goes away. And Carl Wolf said he saw that. Remote viewing. No, photographs.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
He saw photographs. He saw photographs of it. He saw photographs. Who took the photographs? It was the Moon Surveyor satellite that takes pictures all the time. It's like we have images. We have stuff around the moon. I don't know why there's no webcam. I don't know why we can't just tap into the image. Throw a satellite up there. They're there. Just send a signal back.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
I read that they just got like 5G working in space. Send us a signal. Put a webcam on the ISS. Let us tune in. So, Carl Wolf saw that stuff. Ingo Swann saw the same things, but he saw actual beings there, and he said they were able to sense his consciousness, and he, like, snapped out of it. He said, aliens are on the far side of the moon, and they are not our friends.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
It's a very interesting story. Ingo Swann, very interesting cat. So, what took these photographs? Oh, the Moon Surveyor, Lunar Surveyor, satellite. None of that stuff's ever been released? Oh, they released a lot of images from the far side, but they released what they release. That's why we know there's fewer impacts on the far side, because we've seen those images.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
But there's no images of these domes or whatever? No, no. I've seen some that maybe are faked. that look pretty compelling. I forget what episode I had to show them in, but when I found them, it was mind-blowing. And I can't find them again for some reason. I wanted them for another episode, and I can't find the photos, which is always suspicious to me.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
It's like suddenly the thing is blurry off of Malibu. You just can't find the stuff. But... My gut tells me something's going on up there. Someone's aware of it. I'm dying to know what it is.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
I think I've definitely heard that. I don't know if is that connected to the Brookings report, if I'm getting that correct. Which one's that? I forget when it would even come out. Here's all the CYAs. I'm an expert on nothing. I don't know anything. I tell stories. Me too. Okay. How can you talk about Planet Serpo if you've never been? Look, I just like this. I just all do respect.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
I believe we have at least one rock from Mars that just landed here. I think we have one of those. So for maybe a giant impact or something through some of Mars over here.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
So maybe send your DNA or whatever to the third rock. Or Anunnaki. Or Anunnaki.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
Yeah, they show up everywhere. That's the ultimate one. That is the big one. Anunnaki is the big one.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
Because it shows up everywhere. It shows up in the Bible. It shows up in the Mahabharata. It shows up in ancient Chinese literature. It shows up everywhere. Not always called the Anunnaki, but the Anunnaki, and then they have their servile species that
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
could be the nephilim could be the giants and then they take take these primitive humans give them just enough intelligence to mine you know to mine the gold it's part of the lore yeah it's a good one oh it's the best one it's the best one because
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
Right. And this is how many thousands of years before Copernicus, right? Yeah. Didn't even know. Something I don't think doesn't get enough attention is when these ancient cultures are obsessed with equinoxes. Right. A lot of people think equinox is when day and night are the same, but that's not what that is.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
There he is. I mean, the GOAT. The GOAT. Dad was an overnight cop, so always overnight radio. So it was always Dr. Demento. Yes. You remember him? And Art Bell. So I kind of grew up with the weird stories. And it just got in the Twilight Zone. We watched as kids. It was, like, required watching from Dad. The old black and whites, the classics. So that was always in there. So I'll skip 20 years.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
When day and night are the same, it's called equilux, and it's different for everybody on Earth, depending on where you are. And equinox is when the sun is over the center of the Earth's equator. Well, how did you know there was an equator? So Stonehenge is aligned to the equinoxes. How did you know there was an equator?
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
And how was the pyramid, the sizes are directly divisible to a number like 43,200 that could be factored in to calculate the circumference of the earth? So you can calculate the equinox. How did they do that? Okay.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
But mirrors them 30,000 years ago because of precession. Right. So I'm in the camp that the Egyptians found the pyramids, not built them. But I'm glad Zahi's not here.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
The power plant? Power plant. Yeah. Is that what you think? Yeah. You know, it's one of my favorite episodes because I, you know, you can either watch my stupid thing with the fish or the better thing is to just buy Chris's books and read the science. Oh. Don't be a sheep. The next one is going to have taxes.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
That's going to go on forever. Forever. You've never been. I've never been. I hope he's okay. Douglas Murray's a lot of fun. Oh, he's great. Yeah, so I'm not an expert at anything. So I don't know when Brookings was, but it was the same thing. It was a recommendation from the government that, look.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
What I'm trying to do is take weird topics, complex topics, break them down, make them accessible to everybody, have a good time, get you thinking on your own. If I get things wrong, that's okay. As long as you go out and just get interested in stuff. That's what I'm trying to do. Have fun and get you interested. Have you been looking at all under the structures underneath the pyramid? Yes.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
I'm skeptical of that research because if you look at the imaging, I don't see the coils or any of that stuff. I don't see it. They also said they found the tomb of Nefertiti. No, the tomb of Osiris. It just looked like splotches on radar. And they also haven't released any of that information to the scientific community. Nothing's peer-reviewed.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
But when it first hit the news, I was like, that supports the power plant theory, the coils and all that. But I have a feeling that their research will be debunked. Hope I'm wrong. Really?
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
I mean, if you look at the Kufu pyramids, perfect. And then you look at the pyramids that were built later that we know were Egyptian built, and it's like the Timu version. It's like you're not even – it's like a mess. It's just a pile of rocks where the Great Pyramid is precise. And there's no reasons for these different chambers and the chemical residue. Why?
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
And why are there copper rods going down into the aquifer, which is exactly the technology Tesla was using at Wardenclyffe Tower, the same exact technology. Why? You know, there's hydrochloric acid. We have evidence of that. And we've got the zinc sulfide, and it creates hydrogen atoms that go up the gallery.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
And then there's an opening that's exactly the right wavelength for hydrogen to flow through. And it resonates at 440 hertz, and it makes an F-sharp chord. And it's tuned inside the king's chamber to exactly that chord. Or, you know, maybe it's just a place for a dead guy. You know, why use rose quartz, which is so highly – you know, rose granite is so dense with quartz. It's very rare.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
But it creates a lot of piezoelectricity when you apply pressure to it. And hydrogen could do that if you pumped it through the king's chamber.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
He didn't even mention the limestone from tour. Didn't even touch on it. What's the significance of that? It's a great insulator of electricity. It's also mined from very far away. We know it was definitely there. Herodotus talked about the limestone pyramids that could be seen from the mountains of Arabia. So Herodotus, they were still there.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
We know that the limestone facing was there because a lot of it was looted after a couple of earthquakes. They built bridges out of it. You can go touch it. It's there. But he didn't talk about it. But if the pyramid power plant theory is true, then you use limestone as an insulator. Inside, you've got the granite, which creates this piece of electricity.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
And then you've got this other limestone in between that kind of keeps everything modulated.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
That's the big problem I have. So if Tesla wanted to project this energy into the ionosphere... And then everyone could tap into it with some type of receiver, like a radio. But there's no evidence I can find of them powering anything.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
So we can make the argument that maybe if the capstone were gold, this energy could resonate through the center of the pyramid, come up through the golden capstone, and then go straight into the ionosphere. And we know that the pyramid will resonate at certain frequencies and amplify it. That's been tested at about 200 meters is the ideal wavelength.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
But the only other theory is the obelisks at some point were these receivers. But there's no evidence that they powered anything.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
Well, that puts us in a pickle, I think, is let's say it's real. I want to know too, but I don't want the Chinese to know, and I definitely don't want Iran to know.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
Yeah. That's convenient. That's convenient. Yeah. To not believe in carbon dating. And what about rock dating? That is a thing with certain types of rock. Limestone, not so much, but something like igneous rock, you can get a pretty good idea.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
I like the acoustic levitation theory is an interesting one where they use sound vibration to lift heavy objects. We see that occurring throughout history as part of lore. But even in the 1930s, a British, maybe he was an archaeologist, naturalist, went to see Buddhist monks. And using instruments, he watched them levitate heavy objects. And there's film of it. This is all the legend.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
And when he went back to the UK, they seized the film. But they were using instruments and chanting to levitate these rocks up a cliff face to build whatever they were building.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
Oh, yeah, that's Edward Lee Scanlon. I found, it's hard to find, but I found him using levers and pulleys and stuff to do it. It's still amazing what he did. Yeah, by himself. By himself. He's like 5'1", 190 pounds, and I think that door is tons, and you can push it with your finger, that door in the Coral Castle. It's amazing.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
He did it to impress a lady. You went too far, man. You don't have to do that. You just buy a nice car. Don't do the... She doesn't care.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
The ones that kind of shatter my belief system. Like the hollow moon or the crop circles.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
Right. Well, a few things. One was they deliberately crashed their rocket into the moon. And there was seismology. Seismographs were placed in the moon to check what would happen. And it did reverberate. But mainstream science says it reverberates because it's extremely dry, and that's why sound waves travel like that. That's what they say.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
But other scientists have said it seems to be, if it's not hollow, there are hollow cavities within the moon. And why do they think that? Just the way that the sound travels and just how... There are parts of the moon where the surface dirt is... Let me get this right. Where the surface dirt is older than the dirt underneath. The soil on top is older.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
But wasn't the SDI part of that speech? Is we'll all get along, but we're going to have laser weapons in space just in case we don't. Wasn't that that same speech? It might not have been, but it was about that same time. And that was all smoke and mirrors. Right, the Star Wars thing was fake, right? Couldn't get it to work. It was all fake. So maybe we'll all get along. Boy, that sounds nice.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
So if the collision theory is true, which is the mainstream theory, then the moon was made mostly out of Earth's mantle, which will be less dense is what. It just kind of clipped us.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
Crop circles. Crop circles. Those are the fun ones. The government conspiracy ones are interesting to me. But a lot of times they make me angry. So it's not really fun, but I think it's important. But the CIA stuff, MKUltra. MKUltra and Agent Orange, that stuff really makes me angry. Yeah.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
You know, the DARPA episode, I end up kind of losing my temper and crying a little at the end, which I didn't mean to do. And it was just in the course of the research, just that's what happens. Things start to unfold. I just wanted to see DARPA's history. And as I'm learning about it, it's like, oh, these guys did some bad, bad stuff.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
And then when you get to Vietnam and, you know, you got the chemical company, Dow Chemical and DuPont and all this, creating Agent Blue, Agent Purple, Agent Orange. And, I mean, more American soldiers got sick than actually got killed in the conflict. You know, I dedicated the episode to my father-in-law who had all kinds of injuries from Agent Orange.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
The government denied any responsibility for years. They finally agreed to a settlement. In 1981, he applied for his benefits, and the government made do. They kept their word. He got his settlement 40 years later.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
Right. So your country needs you, and you answer the call. And then when you need your country, take a number.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
That was the one to get us into Cuba. Yeah. That was probably... The beginning of the end for Kennedy because I believe Kennedy put a stop on Northwoods. And Bay of Pigs wouldn't allow air support. Right. He got screwed on that. And the Bay of Pigs, that was the end. That was where Kennedy says we need to start again. We've got to dismantle this and start again.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
I can't rely on my intelligence community. And he talked to Eisenhower a lot. And Eisenhower gave him advice and said, watch out for the CIA. Keep an eye on them. Because remember when Eisenhower left, he gave that famous farewell address where he said, beware of the military industrial complex. You make war profitable, you're going to have more war. Because America was never like that before.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
But, you know, Iran produces brilliant people, so intelligent, great engineers, doctors, all of that. But the government is bananas. Yeah. So, I mean, you don't want to have brilliant scientists working like that. I mean, we had brilliant scientists working for dictators in the past and it was not awesome.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
We had a defensive military, not an aggressive military forever. Right. Profit is where the devil does his best work. That's right.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
My stepsister just retired from Grumman. She worked in top secret programs. She won't tell the family what she did. Dun, dun, dun. She wants to live. Good.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
Whoopsies. He fell out of a hotel window. The Frank Olson murder is taught by Israeli intelligence as the perfect murder.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
Frank Olson was part of MPK Ultra and was starting to have second doubts about it. So they sent him to a psychiatrist who he didn't know was actually – worked for Sidney Gottlieb and was into programming and he was freaking out. And he's up in a hotel room with someone else from MK and he falls out the window. But if you look at the window where he fell, it's like, you know, two feet by two feet.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
You can't just jump out the window. So he was found on the sidewalk by the doorman. That's Frank Olson worth looking up.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
That's right, and it took a lot of... Not file a claim. Right. Right, and it was, be quiet. We'll give you the money, but be quiet about it.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
You know, the NBA Ultra, the testimonies from the women is really heartbreaking to watch them. You know, the sexual abuse that they endured for years at that, you know, whatever that was, that lodge on the water near D.C. And just tortured and crazy stuff. Operation Midnight Caller, you know that one? Which one's that? That's happened in San Francisco where they...
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
And it was – I think it was Nixon who banned it in 72. It might have even been 69 before he came in. They kept doing it anyway. Same with bioweapons. They were ordered by executive order to get rid of their bioweapons and it was found out years later. They were just stockpiling them. They still had them. And you know they still do. Yeah.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
Yes. Yeah. You know, I don't want to say I'm— Because they're dangerous. They are. Bigfoot's not dangerous. No, Bigfoot's not going to hurt me. Bigfoot's a fun one. He's fun. UFOs are fun ones. Different dimensions. Fun stuff. Yeah. It's hard for me because I consider myself a patriot, very pro-military, pro-law enforcement, but also anti-war and pro-criminal justice reform.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
I'm very politically confused. Yeah, me too. You know, I just like fairness and transparency, that sort of thing.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
I do like to think that, and this journey has shown me that it's mostly not. You know, it's really mostly not, but it's a government made of men, and men are flawed and selfish, and men will hurt each other.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
And this collateral damage is just part of it. Yeah. So we give them a settlement to stay quiet, but this is for national security.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
Great or good. What other ones have freaked you out? And it's hard to say off the top of my head. MKUltra is a tough one. I have covered Northwoods and some of those. Operation Gladio was a crazy one. That was when the CIA was killing civilians after World War II. I'm going to do an episode on Alan Dulles, the Dulles brothers, their connection to the Nazis and all of that.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
what were they doing they were killing people for what reason so we had to fight communism communism communism so um they trained a secret army a civilian army in italy to bomb civilians and then blame it on the communists the communists at that time were the most popular party in italy you know post-war because they just went through fascism right with mussolini so you just
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
It always swings too far the other way. So we swing way the other way. Communism, very popular, can't have that. So civilians were killed in bombings by the CIA-trained guerrilla army. And they were trained by a Nazi general who was tight with Alan Dulles. And this was planned during the war.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
You know, while American GIs were being killed fighting the Nazis, they were already planning this next phase. But civilians died in massacres and they blamed it on communists and it was denied and eventually it came out. It was called Operation Gladio. Gladius is the sword of the Roman soldier.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
Bomb. Car bomb. Car bomb was a big one. I think it was in Milan, but there was a few. And they were just blaming the communists just to stop communism. Because it was a huge, Italy was a lot of turmoil. I think it was called like the years of lead or like the decades of lead, something like that. Because people were just getting killed all the time.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
I don't know how many constitutions Italy's had since World War II, but it's probably over two dozen at this point. You know, it's a chaotic place.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
It's my people, too. We're goofy. What about the Richard structure? You know, people ask me about that. The eye of the Sahara. I usually I usually say, you know what? Go to Corsetti. Go to Bright Insight.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
Well, we know for a fact it was deluged. It just doesn't line up with Atlantis. I mean, Carlson has shown us how the surface of Africa was just altered by the flood. So it all lines up, but there's all these leaps that we have to make. I enjoy making them. But on my show, I try to let people know, look, I connected some dots here. I had to fill in some gaps with a little bit of creative license.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
But if you're interested, go pursue it. Go learn more. I want that to be Atlantis.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
Right, and he learned it from an Egyptian priest who learned it from someone else. So the story goes back beyond Plato, if you believe Plato, which you can, you can believe Plato.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
So what, you know, with Homer's Iliad, what did they think he was writing about? A fictional place? I mean, that was this... I think I said 900 years.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
It would be nice. Hal Puthoff has been connected to a lot of disinformation campaigns. I love the guy and his work, but he has been connected to disinformation campaigns with known disinformation.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
They all have a flood myth. Gilgamesh and Noah's Ark, they're very similar stories. And there are other cultures that have a Noah's Ark story. Yeah.
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#2327 - AJ Gentile
So when people argue for Bimini being Atlantis, it's like they didn't know what any of that was, but they knew what North Africa was.