AJ Buckley
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I was born in Dublin. Hey. Hey.
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I left Ireland when I was six and went to Vancouver, Canada. I was in Canada until I was 17. Then I booked a movie in Vancouver that brought me down to LA. And then my career just sort of started there. I always wanted to be an actor and stuff since I was five. That was the only thing I ever wanted to do. Yeah, I went down to Los Angeles and went out for an audition when I was there.
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Yeah, 82. This was 2001, 2002. And then I think he had a bit of a dry spell, lived on my car for about a year and a half, because I was too old to play like a cop, too old to play like high school, too young to play copper, like peach fuzz. I just started to shave. And then it kind of went through this really sort of rough spell, got messed up with the wrong people.
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Like everything, Hollywood's like this pretty flower that just like eats you alive and wants to send you home. So then I just figured out, I was like, should I go home and, you know, get a nine to five, which is nothing wrong with nine to five, but like, no, fuck it. I'll just, you know, Canada was the issue. Canada was cool back then. But yeah, and then... The future 51st state. Exactly.
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And then I was, it was probably 2007 when things sort of turned around again. I was at like $32.95 to my name. I still have it. I got the bank receipt from Wells Fargo that day. And I got a call. I booked CSI New York. Because at the time, the CSI New York was the third of the franchise that came out. And then I booked a series regular on that. And then my sort of life changed forever.
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Yeah, with Gary Sinise was the star of that. Nine seasons of that with Gary. I don't know if you guys have ever met Gary or ever had him on the show. He's a rad dude, though. Honestly, he is the greatest. I really mean this. There's not many human beings on this planet that I just... He is the most selfless human being ever. He would do things during CSI New York that there was no cameras there.
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Like he would help Matt to build houses. He would just do things out of his own pocket and just, and it was never cameras. He just, the amount of stuff that he's done to the veteran community and then how the foundation is run, the Gary Sweeney Foundation, and that all the money goes to the people, like you'd actually see in the amount of how, just everything that he's done and what he represents.
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He's sort of the gold standard, I feel, of foundations.
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Remember we opened the cans, right, when I did my opener? Yeah, cans are open.
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Yeah, he was really, he was really, he comes from a military family. And yeah, the Lieutenant Dan role really did that. And he started the Lieutenant Dan band. And then he, I mean, every other weekend he's at a hospital or he's at some event or he's at some things. And so I, when we got sealed to him, I had called him up and was like, Hey, how do I, how do I get really get involved in this?
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Like actually in 2008, he sent me, he, I was like, I want to go. Overseas, so he sent me 2008. I went over to Iraq. And, dude, it was crazy. I had no fucking clue what. You went in 2008? Right when you guys were doing the push to Afghanistan. Yeah, that was still too early. I stayed at Camp Liberty at Saddam's palace there. Yeah.
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I think the three-star general was like General Jacoby, I think his name was.
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Yeah. No shit. And, uh, but it was, it was crazy. Like I went there to, we pull up, we flew into Kuwait and then we took a C-17 to Delta FOB and I'll never forget this, like flying in and they, the guy didn't like, we all had like a person that was with us. Um,
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like uh team guy or whatever like this is your your buddy like and i was like oh wide-eyed and this guy's like oh fuck i got this idiot that's so wild dude you're going into a cop like this is surge iraq this is not that's what's more wild to me i'm like oh man no clue And the guy's like, he's like, you like, you like, are you scared of planes flying or anything? I'm like, no, I'm good.
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I'm fired up. This is great. He's like, okay. He's like, just get ready. He's going to get weird. I'm like, why? And just as he said that, it did that like strategic dive down to land. Below radar. Map of the earth. I was like, oh my gosh. I thought I was fucking dying. I didn't know what was going on. There's like flares going.
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So we went and stayed. We flew into Dunn's Fob and then we Blackhawked to Camp Liberty. And we stayed there. We were there for 15 days. And then we would go out each day to different fobs and hang for a day or two at the fob. Some days there would be a sandstorm and we'd have to stay. But it was awesome. It was a really cool thing. One of the days going over Sodder City, this is a true story.
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literally pissed my pants like literally pissed my fucking pants in front of a bunch of people i was so scared i'm such and we're going over in the blackhawk and we had like blackhawks and there's some apaches and we're going over and i guess whatever happened they picked up that there's some radar or something was on it and our blackhawk like turns and fucking
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flares start going and i don't know what's happened on but everything went quiet on the comms and these were they were firing dude i pissed myself i was like i thought and i have it i like had like a camcorder like the tours like oh my god and i dropped him i don't want to die i mean fair enough and i've never heard a 50 cal go off before like this is way before seal team so i'd never i didn't know what the hell and then it was crazy when we landed
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The kid that, like, shot the gun, he was like, he watched the show, he was like, can I get a picture with you? Well, he had that Halo-looking mask on him. Yeah, the big one. And this was way before Halo, but it was, like, just, I was just like, oh, shit, yeah, of course.
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And he took it off, and, like, this kid was so, like, he was younger than me, he had some peach fuzz, and I was like, this motherfucker had balls of steel while I was sitting in the back, pissing my pants. So, and then I also got, on my first Blackhawk ride, I went to the right side in the back seat, so that air was like, ah, ah, ah, ah. Just eating the f***ing air. It was pretty painful.
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I thought this will end at some point. And it was like 30 minutes later. It was like hot, hot, hot.
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So we went to the Air Force Base there in Kuwait where they had us staying at. But what I couldn't believe is when we landed, they had us like a convoy, which is not from the show.
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like where we'd have like the lead vehicle then we'd be in the middle and and they just wouldn't stop for anything and I was just like oh my god fucking this is nuts like just just going through all things like see passing camels on the road and they pull this hotel and there's a TGI Friday in a Starbucks I'm like what the fuck
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semi-trailer that you can pull out of a c-130 and it's a fully operational burger king somebody's getting money for that behind the scenes there's there's still every once in a while on a road trip i'll stop and get a whopper the whoppers like everyone's on like a bad road trip you get a whopper whoppers are still they're still they'll you shit your pants after but it's it's worth it just a fucking whopper or the chicken sandwich i'll go for it
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I really wanted to go. I saw what the... I'd seen the Gary Sinise... The Lieutenant Bay, he would throw a concert every year for the entire CBS lot. Actually, the crazy thing is when we filmed CSI New York at CBS Radford, it ended up being the same studio that we filmed SEAL Team at. So like five or six years later. came back at the same stage. We were on stage three for nine seasons.
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I don't think you ever told me that, which is crazy. And then stage 23, we were on that stage for seven seasons. So that studio became like a second home. But Gary Cease would throw a big fucking party for them, and I met a bunch of guys and was hearing their stories. And again, it was very fresh. It was like...
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you know and it was there was how far into like your professional acting career are you at this time when you went over but this is my first real like csi new york changed my life completely like how many years into that oh i'd be so i start i got my first gig on the x-files like season one of the x-files aj's been in a ton of stuff and he looks i can say this he looks
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Dude, did you remember Anna Faris' boyfriend? Oh, shit. Yeah, like, get me the Coke.
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I was a forensic pathologist. But I remember the day when they were testing me out for it. I'm super dyslexic and I have real trouble reading anything. Oh, you'll get along with all of us. Perfect. We can't read. I have to hear fucking everything to memorize it. So the day that they wanted to test me for the show, they had me come because they're going through lab texts.
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I was just there to drive the story. I would show up on page nine. I'm out on page...
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33 34 unless they let me out of the lab which was only three times and every girl i had got murdered so it was a sad case so um but the first word i had to say and it was with gary sinise and i knew that this is my test like it's a fill me down thing and so um and and usually i have like you'd have like a day or two with the lines to memorize it they were just like come down to the set here's your stuff go so i see this big monologue stuff i'm like oh please god this like make my brain work
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So for some reason, I, I, when the, the first word was methoxy disopropyl tryptamine. And that was, the word was like that, which is basically, yeah. I remember every, I remember every day, every single big word on that show. Cause it would haunt me. So, so I get through, I get through this to start doing the scene and I'm flubbing over the stuff and I'm just, I'm totally sweating.
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I keep hitting over like thermals and, all this other stuff and the director calls cut and i think all right they're gonna i'm done and that uh the showrunner uh pambese is like she's like hey she's yelling from behind the mom she's like keep whatever that choice you're doing of playing i'm really nervous it's hysterical keep doing that that we love that i'm like oh my god
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She totally thought I was coming in and doing this, like, this bumbling, mumbling guy. I'm a method actor. That's a bit. I'm so good, I can make myself sweat.
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And I was like, the character's name was Mac, and I'd be like, Mac, Mac, and I was like, so then the writer started to write me mumbling and bumbling through the things as to, we love this, dude, great choice, and I was like, it wasn't until, like, years later, like, I'd done it, I'm like, guys, I would actually shit my pants that day. Yeah. And they're like, what?
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I'm like, no, this is not a character. Like, I'm still, when you give me big words, I'm really terrified. And Gary, the years that I was telling you this story, Gary has this, like, I had such admiration for him for everything he did on stage as Steppenwolf and like, you know, he's in Forrest Gump and Ted Tan. So as an actor, he was just somebody that I really admired. But he had this thing that
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In the scenes, he would just, his character would just stare at you and just like really just stare. So I was like, yeah, just, he looked pissed off all the time. And I'm getting in my own head. I'm like, fuck, I hate, Gary fucking hates me. So I'm thinking this in my head while I'm doing the scene and then it's just making it worse.
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And I'd always be like, see, I'm like, Gary, like, I'd say I have his way and stuff. And I told him later, I'm like, dude, I was, he's like, what? He's like, you were, I'm like, I thought he was like, no, man, he's like, I was just, I was just in the scene looking at you. He was like, and in my mind, I'm thinking this character, Adam's an idiot, you know, but I know you're not a real idiot, AJ.
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I'm like, oh, thanks. Just your character. Let me say, AJ, you really sold it. I mean, really sold it. But it was, yeah, it was, but that show was, yeah, a massive game changer.
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I was in my bathtub coming up out of my bathtub. Oh yeah, he's like doing breathing exercises in his tub.
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Well, crazy thing, so I started watching a bunch of different shows, and I watched the selection, which that he did with, what was it, History Channel or whatever? Was it History? It was like what that Fox show is.
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It was like what that Fox show is now, what is it called? Special Forces. Special Forces. So it was the Special Forces one. But theirs was like the first one. So I was watching it. It was like me and my wife were like, oh, this Tyler guy. So I literally, when I first met him, oh, you're Tyler Gray.
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I was like, what? So I was already fanboying. And then we, I just like, I wanted to, because I didn't grow up shooting guns, really. I shot like a handgun. You already said you're from Canada. It was out there. Well, we had UK first. So then I was with you on the ship that we were out there shooting when the first night I shot the 249.
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I looked around, she wasn't there, and then I felt like a dipshit.
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Where in Ireland is she from?
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Dude, if you ever get a chance to go to Ireland, I highly recommend it. She's from the white part of Ireland. You guys should go do a podcast there.
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you should definitely go to ireland though it is you will get like get to the countryside and and just rent a car and do the coast it'll be by far one of the best trips you ever had really yeah you guys should go do a fucking podcast there how long is the drive for the coast around you could do it from here to ireland i think you could do it in Like, are you stopping or not stopping?
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No stopping. You could do the entire coast and it'd be a good trip, like 10 days and stop, like a bed and breakfast and have a day or two here. Like, but awesome. Like just, like the village, you go to these tiny little villages and...
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it's right out of a storybook but you just like the irish people are so welcome they just open the door like as soon as you meet them they'll like invite you to like you can stay at their house like they'll give the shirt off the back here there's a guinness yeah like guinness is a whole you'll learn the true proper way to pour a pint of guinness and the guinness here and the guinness there tastes a hundred percent different like my mother used to pour the doctors used to prescribe guinness
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for the kids. I love this country. If they were lower in iron, the doctor would say, I'll just pour some Guinness in his porridge.
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I believe so. Trout, introduce yourself.
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That is awesome. I still want to know why that helps you if you're low in iron. Well, the doctors, the Guinness would be delivered when the milkman would come around and they would drop off Guinness and milk. The Guinness man? Mom's banging the Guinness man. I look a lot like the Guinness man. But, yeah, they would pour Guinness on our oatmeal.
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And then, like, I always remember, like, when we were sick. Never had that before. When we were sick, we would have, like, hot water, whiskey, and sugar. And they'd wrap us up in a blanket. Kind of like a hot toddy. Hot toddy. But we'd be, like, four years old in, like.
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Literally wrap a hot towel around their head and give them alcohol.
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He's so docile. But next time you have a Guinness and you pour it, the proper time to drink it, you get like a quarter, right? And you hold the pint glass. And when you first pour it, you'll hit it. It'll have like a toonk, toonk, toonk sound to it. And when it's ready to drink, it'll go tink, tink, tink. Everything just sort of settles in it.
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And one of the things I'll teach you is when you're over in Ireland, when everybody's pint glass is about here, order the round. Because you don't buy ever a drink for yourself. You buy for the table you're at. It's just very rude. If you have cigarettes, you throw them in the middle of the table. It's just a very community-based thing.
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And so if you see sitting down at a table, you buy a round for everyone. But don't order it down here because a proper pint of Guinness takes like – five or so minutes for it to settle before it's a thing. So if you order a big thing, you don't want to break stride. So if you're the idiot at the table that doesn't know and it's your round and you miss a thing, then everybody's waiting.
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And then you're that guy. So you sort of gauge it halfway through. Everyone's there and comes around. If you have 10 pints of Guinness, you're full. But there's less calories in a Guinness than there is in a Coors Light. What?
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I remember taking my cousin to we're in Mexico came to visit and in Ireland when you asked him how like how's it how's it if it's a good time you say how's the crack so how's the crack so you would say how's the crack so if you're out on a night we were right crack I crack like the cracks very different question yeah so we're in Mexico and
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my cousin kept saying to people downtown san antonio they asked the same question how's the crack how's the crack and people that like people are looking like what and i'm like dude you can't say that man we're gonna throw them and so of course you have a few pints of me hey how you going how's crack and then like everyone would turn to you like it's like a it's a weird segway it's like everyone's having like tequila and something my cousin would be randomly like how's the crack and everyone would stop and be like what the is this going about like
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Yeah, what's going on? What's cracking? What's shaking? Yeah, so what's cracking? But when someone says it late night at a club or walking up to someone, how's the crack? You say it to anyone. He would say it to everybody.
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There was a bunch of Irish people. This is a random conversation.
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I got Mexican gingers. Oh, actually, well, Canelo. There you go.
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Did you see that? There was a headline I saw yesterday where, uh, Zelinsky was saying that he, they've only received 78 million of the hundred. Oh, sorry. 78 billion of the 178 billion that we've said he did. They don't know where they never received. Oh yeah.
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Yeah. Like Mexicans are pissed. Yeah. With Trudeau and candidates changed like so, so much. I used to love going back to Vancouver and working there, doing all this stuff. But like, even just like, Just to see... Vancouver, just for reference, Vancouver's fucking wild.
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It's the most expensive city in the world. It used to be so beautiful. People cannot get into the market. Young people cannot buy houses. The rent is... Everything about it is... When you go film there,
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Uh, and just to go get like, you always know, cause you have your, have your per diem what they give you when you show up to, to film and you'll go, oh, go, go stock up the fridge and you will go to like a regular, like they have a Safeway up there. You'll go to a regular Safeway, which is like a, uh, yeah, just a big pack of cigarettes. Yeah.
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Oh, for a hundred bucks Canadian, you will get maybe five items tops like, and it is not good. Like beer markup is like you're paying almost triple. Yeah.
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Imagine having to pay in CAD. And the sad thing is like Canadians are awesome. They're great people. They love their sport. They love their hockey. They're very patriotic people. But it's been really sad just to see what bad management can do in there and just how – There's no way that they can get out of the position that they're in.
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I'm like, never mind. I have confidence. The trucker thing was crazy. Those guys, the Canadians are awesome. They are awesome. And that whole thing, what they ended up doing to the truckers afterward, they were freezing their bank accounts and stuff. That was just such overreach. I mean, Trudeau is on tape saying, when somebody asks, what's one of your favorite countries? And he says, China.
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He says that on an interview. You're like, what? Why would anybody...
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Yeah, I mean, we left five years ago, four and a half, five years ago. And just to see what, like, and it... California and that whole Los Angeles, it's such great memories for me because it gave me the start of my career. I remember I have so many moments in my life that were life-changing moments as a young man in that area.
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And then just when you go back, even when we're filming, when I flew back the last couple of seasons, and just to see, because you get an Airbnb or whatever it is, and you would just... There was so many years when I was living out of my car, I didn't feel like... Unsafe. Unsafe. You feel unsafe at all times.
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We had a guy in a tent. I remember Max and I were in a tent. He's just pounding his bishop. Good shit. In his tent, and our toilet door's open. I'm calling him from now on out. He's literally, he's fucking, we open the toilet door. Usually it's the other way around. And he's in a blue tent on the other side of the gate, and he's just sitting there.
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And I'm like, I'm like, Max, is that guy like a fan of yours or something? He's on some drugs, and he's just fucking, blah, blah, blah. I mean, Max is a good looking guy. He's a good looking dude. I get it.
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Oh, yeah. It was never like that.
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Oh, yeah. But you see what happened in San Francisco? Like, have you guys been to San Francisco before?
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I shot a series up in San Francisco, and it was... Terrifying it like it looked like Like I did like it just looked like an old video game that you play in these these you're like in the arm You gotta get
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I think there's an actual app. Oh, I know. Legit. I think there's an actual app that they have where people have actually shit, and you can put... Yeah, you can track. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like the same. It's a real thing. A tracker or something like that. And it's literally, like, it's glowing. It's just one big pile of, like, dots where people have...
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Dude, we had a bunch of friends that lost, like,
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Not even run. Just walk out.
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Well, they would go in, and they would just find a house that somebody wasn't in, and they would just take it, and the people would come back, and they couldn't get them out of the house. They would just move in, and there was nothing they could do to get them out of the house. I was like, what? Damn it, now I need...
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It's crazy. We lived across in Redondo Beach, right across from the Redondo Beach Police Department. And because of the show, the cops had recognized us.
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It was literally right there. It was right there. And so I became good buddies with a lot of cops. And there was this law that was passed. It was like no bail, no jail. So they were arresting Hold the fuck. You don't have to post. No bail usually means jail. So if you can't have bail, you're out? No, you basically go in. They take you down to the thing.
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They catch a guy getting arrested. They bring him down to the thing. They take his picture, let him out, and four hours later, the same cop is picking up the same dude again, break it into another house. You arrest him like four times a night.
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That's insanity.
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I'm very angry, but I'm more confused than angry. The cops would say, we're so frustrated because we're literally picking up the same person. And when they're taking the picture, they're flipping off the camera.
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I know Rocco. Yeah, Rocco. His book is amazing.
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Oh, I love Rocky. He's in Texas, yeah, isn't he?
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Oh, dude. You know how most, like, government people, like, FBI or whatever, they don't. that you always downplay, like, oh, it's not that bad or whatever. This dude, point blank, was like, it's so bad right now. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was like, oh, when somebody says it.
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Great, great, great guy. A great shooter, too. Great guy.
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That's a good impersonation.
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They said they could go over anything.
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We were in Australia and New Zealand. We were trying to connect and get stuff. It was a nightmare. It was horrible. Yeah, it was a nightmare.
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Am I wrong? No, it was a crazy cat.
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I'm like, that's so cool. I remember when I met my wife. Oh, dude. Please tell this story. It's the best story ever. I was listening because I, like, knew she was going to be the one. I was like, listen, it's probably him. Probably going to hear a lot of things. I think people are coming up and saying stuff. And I'm like, various different stories happened.
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And I go, I just want you to know, all of them are true. She was like, everything? Are you going to tell that story? Well, yeah. Then she goes, there was this one girl. Somebody was saying, it was like, Yeah, one time AJ came out at a party with just a hat on, his hammer, and was walking around. And she looks at me, I go, that's true, babe, I did that.
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And she was like, well, that sounds like my husband.
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We got the hat on the hammer story. This story defines aging. So I just wanted to, well, the hat on the hammer, I just wanted to see if I could carry a Stetson and walk into a room, and I accomplished the mission.
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Yeah, it was one of those ones they put on monkeys.
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But no, when I was in Vegas... I hadn't really slept the night before and I was going to go with my buddy. What's that? That's gambling.
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And so we went right to the, I was wearing a suit from the night before because we had some other dinner thing that we went to. It wasn't really that I'd wear suits a lot, but I just had been wearing it. And I was like, fuck it. We're going over to this. It was at Wet Club. Wet Republic. Wet Republic. So I was like, fuck it. I was with my buddy. I'm like, let's just go to the actual pool.
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I'm like, let's not go back to the room. It was at another hotel. I'm like, I'll just buy shorts there. So we stopped by a store, grabbed some short stuff, show up to the thing. The party's going. And as I walk in, I see this.
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smoke show in the hot tub in a yellow bikini and I'm like oh my god that girl is so hot and I am in that zone of like zero fucks you're a machine you're like in the zone my eyes are bloodshot but I just saw her and I was like talking to her so the waitress was going by I grabbed like two Coronas I jumped in the hot tub fully dressed in my suit like shoes everything got in beside her and she turns around she's like what the fuck she's like why are you wearing a suit in the hot tub I'm like why are you wearing a bikini and I
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And I handed her a beer and I ended up marrying her. And then we were together pretty much ever since. That was my entrance. And truthfully, if I had not done that, I don't think I'd had the balls to go up or catch her attention. She was like, okay, all right. So that's how I met my wife. I haven't told my kids that story. I've told them a very different story, but one day they'll hear that.
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How old are your kids? I've got twin boys that are six, turn seven next month. Yeah, that's a little young for that. My daughter's 11, so yes. They get the Disney version right now.
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Nice, I see what you're doing. I have a funny story with Tyler. Oh, God. So when you go do the show, after it gets picked up after... So you shoot a pilot, you don't know if it's going to get picked up. So you go away for like a month.
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Yeah, it's super rare. And we knew that we had like a good shot, but you didn't know. There was all sorts of things. And it was like, it was all this thing like, does the audience want to... There was three other shows, military shows that were coming out that year. So... We finally get picked up. We head to Radio City Music Hall where they do the announcement.
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Back then, it was called the Upfronts. And all of the fucking press show up there. All the press from around the world. And the studio has a day where they introduce the cast to the world. Huge announcement. This is stuff you dream about as an actor. When I was on CSI New York, I was number eight on the call sheet. So I never got to go on the trips. It was basically one, two, three, and four.
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that would go or it'd be one and two. So this is my very first, you know, 25 years in the industry at the time or 22 years in the industry. I was part of this and I was like, oh, this is like, and I remember even like reading, I was like, it got emotional. Like, this is like, wow, this is finally happening. Get to Radio Music Studio.
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And I remember Les Moonves, who was the president of CBS at the time, walked by. He's like, AJ, good to have you back. I was like, dude, you remember my name? I'm like, holy shit. This moment is like, couldn't get better. So they have us there an hour early for a tech rehearsal just to walk through. So the cameras catch us, all that.
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Tell us how it's going to go because it's live and all the people are there. So I'm like, this is great. You have my publicist with me. high-fiving and like Dave Boreanaz goes out and Dave Boreanaz, blah, blah, blah. The guy from Bones? Yeah, he's the leader of the show.
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And they said when you walk out, you hit this mark, audience and press, it's like the photo line, there's a thousand pictures, all the camera crews sort of wave to them and then there's the audience of all the press. And you turn around and there's like a 15-foot screen with like action shots of you from the show.
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So Radio City Music Hall, the Beatles have played there, Led Zeppelin, everybody. So I walk out and this is rehearsal and I do the thing and they're saying there's going to be pictures here. Now turn, look at yourself up there and I look up and I'm like, hold on a second. I'm like, ma'am, just so you know, that's not me. That's Tyler Gray. And they're like, who? Same shit.
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There's a two-minute action reel. Not one of them is me. It's all him. And I'm like, none of those are me. And it says, A.J. Buckley. AJ Buckley. It's all him. Every single photo.
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Here's the best part. So my parents are like, we have to fix this. They're like, okay, we'll try to do it. And they come back, we don't have enough time, but we just have to be able to fix it. I'm like, so I'm going to go out on my biggest moment of care, and it's fucking Tyler Gray. It says over, and they're like, sorry, it's nothing. So I literally introduced the world.
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And they're like, there's this video of literally, I walk up, AJ Buckley. And it's like, Tyler, dee, dee, dee, dee, dee, dee, dee, dee, dee. That was it. That was like, I called him a lot. He's like, you motherfucker. I was like, what? He's like, what? Yeah, that's great. There's been many times where people have asked me. Yeah, yeah.
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Me and Cody. We are actually born in the same year.
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Oh, racehorse gum. Yeah.
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Yeah. Yeah. That's awesome. Was it your first run?
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Yeah, it's good. That's the sign in there. Let's go. Let's go Brandon.
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Wow.
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Wow, that would be awesome.
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Okay.
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Who's their interim guy? They just sit down.
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The first time I learned about the ATF, I did a show called Narcos. He just dropped out.
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Season one of Narcos. He played Pablo. So did I. But when we first got the script and we were cast, that was the story of how the ATF was formed. Their interrogation, their investigation of Pablo and And then one of the guys that Boyd Holbrook played, that was like their first big mission where they're flying over and getting- The reconnaissance stuff. The reconnaissance sort of stuff.
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But going over there and meeting some of the original players in Colombia, because we filmed in- Medellin. We filmed all over, but we were in- Medellin? The other one. Cali? Bogota. Bogota, Bogota. Which I don't know if you guys have ever been to Bogota before. It is, I can't sleep there. It's like at the altitude every time I lay down. It was like.
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By a lot. Awesome, awesome place. But the guy.
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Yeah, true.
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Oh, that's worse.
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But yeah, it was crazy how like what. But the whole time of that agency and what they sort of went through and what they were up against with Pablo and the trade. Are you talking about ATF or DEA? The ATF.
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Yeah, ATF was involved.
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I think it was like from what, what I was, and I could be shitting the bed on this, but from what I was, this is like one of the first big missions of, of that entire team. But to see the people on the ground and what happened there and like the, just the technology from where.
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they were then to what everybody has now like with those planes that would go over and dude surveillance as a whole took off during that time that was when we learned yeah they were flying over with these planes and just sort of picking up and listening to people based on the sound of their voice yeah which is fucking crazy dude i'll tell you i'll tell you a columbia pablo story so um
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No. Dude, like, that's not a conspiracy theory.
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What did his wife say? She said, I want them to see what they've done to Jack. She wouldn't take off her dress. I remember seeing him. I'm like, why would she say something like that? Who's what they've done? Who are they? What they? And then you got LBJ and the governor. Because she wouldn't take the blood off. She wore the dress, everything on her. Fucking good on her.
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Even the governor. It was in Dallas, right? Yeah, Dallas. Do they have it all marked out still? Can you see where?
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Yeah. And how different is the bolt action back then to like a bolt action? There's something else.
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I would just say AJ Buckley. And Instagram is probably the best way. And then our new Two Fake Seals is a Two fake seals.
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our house in South Carolina, and my neighbors, they kept calling. The chain balloons over here? Oh, the surveillance. Literally over his house. You could see it from the backyard. So my neighbors were calling.
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But the neighbors kept calling me going, like, AJ, what do we do? What's going to happen? I'm like, dude, I don't know, man. I'm an actor. I don't know. Thank you. I think people just assume because I play Sonny Quinn and I'm a Texan on the show that I have all the answers. And people generally in our neighborhood will still call me or in general like, what's going to happen?
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I'm like, I don't know. Dude, I sit in the trailer. I wear makeup. I have a stunt double. I'll drink a latte. Like, I'm not the...
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you actually taking me out into the real world and because you're you know been a survivalist reading books in this and prepping and stuff since you were like 10 years old i'm like and we'll just go across and you fucking teach me how to do all this shit and we'll stop off and talk to preppers and you know uh you learn just learn shit along the way and and then ty was like we should call it two fake seals i'm like yeah and then we googled such a good and then uh and then we we um
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We ended up working with Ford and Total Off-Road, and they're building the big... We actually pick up the Big Richard in Baton Rouge.
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Yeah, so we go pick it up, drive the truck, the Tremor, to Total Off-Road in South Carolina. They're going to do a big build on it, and it'll be a mobile podcast. And we'll be driving around, so we'll come through here again with... And we're going to have like the...
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a toy trailer that will pull it and that'll be the studio that'll be the studio and the little richard and then it'll have the it's it the bill that they're doing on the some of the stuff that they're really it's crazy yeah it's pretty so it's going to be cool and then each at the end of each season we'll raffle off the big richard that'll be richard big richard 2.0 um so and really like the whole overland community and stuff i really love grid over like something yeah so we just we basically want to freaking do that we love
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100,000 rounds.
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I was like, Todd, when we were just discussing ideas of the show, I'm like, well, what were we doing? He's like, no one's going to go out to the woods, so I'm going to teach you how to survive in the city. I'm like, well, what do we do? He goes, we're taking over a fucking Walmart. That Walmart is going to be ours.
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Take away the doom and gloom from it and really play into the comedy of it. If they're laughing, they're listening. Have fun with it. Not make it so serious. That's the show. Have fun. Take the piss out of me while I make a complete ass of myself and do that. Even today where we're like, talking about how fun it's going to be just to like go do that.
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And then sort of through the POV of me learning the stuff on the way, we'll be have that sort of as the viewer will be through my eyes, learning how to, fucking survive in the real world. That's a great idea. That's a fun idea. Yeah, we're psyched. Yeah, really, really, really excited to do it.
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And honestly, thank you so much for having us, man, because you guys are legends in this space, so it's really awesome to get to meet y'all and be here with you. We're legends.
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Clock? No. No, for the sake, for the sake.