Adam Stacoviak
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That moment of discovery is the fun part, right? Like when you like get that, oh man, I had no idea that's what that really meant. You know, like when you kind of get that taste and it sparks this like perpetual curiosity, I would say, cause that's, I mean, mine is not as cool as yours.
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I was writing CSS and my mom was like, and I was doing a blog cause I was far away from home and she was catching up with me and my life via a blog back and Gosh, 2003, I want to say, 2004. And she was like, you are good at this. You should keep doing it. And because my mom said that, I'm like, okay, this is kind of cool. I should probably keep doing this.
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And that's kind of like where my curiosity in software development began was just like learning CSS. But that initial moment is so strong.
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I pulled up the walkway and I'm a couple layers deep while you're talking. And I'm on the walkway for VS Code and I'm like, wow, this is so cool that you can, I mean, you can do it in the web too, but like a lot of people are really, they're happy in VS Code. I'm not unhappy in VS Code. It's not my favorite, but it's certainly a quite usable code editor.
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And I think it's a great platform for a lot of people. Yeah. The fact that you can have another tab next to your code in VS Code and it's Walkway and you're kind of like programming in software what could be future hardware and learning, that's so cool.
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I've personally been intimidated by, I suppose, hardware coding like this or things that do stuff that isn't software because I don't know how, and I suppose everything's find-outable, right? The word find-outable. But I just haven't found out or had the time to find out. So the burden and the hurdles to start in the way that I want to start seem so high.
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This Walkway thing seems so cool that I can, I feel like it might be a bit more accessible now.
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I like the idea that, one, it is software, so you can scale, just like you said, which is a great thing. But at the same time, it's like, well, this isn't real. It's software. But the moment I felt comfortable literally buying or spending my cash on some hardware and some wires and a kit or whatever it might be,
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I can take the thing that I've been playing with, iterating on and get like every other software developer is doing. And I'm learning the software development skills. But now once I've kind of gotten to the point where I've got my really good version that I want to really make in the real world, I can translate that to, it seems like at least translate that to real world.
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Now I've written the software for it. Now all I have to do is just pair it up with real hardware versus this, this software version.
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That's so cool. That's dope.
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So you're often compared to GitHub Copilot. I got to imagine that you have a hot take. What's your hot take on GitHub Copilot?
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Well, I'm wondering maybe if it wasn't a Fiona moment. My friends who are big fans of a very awesome TV show called Silicon Valley will know what I'm talking about. Because in this episode, spoiler for those who haven't watched it yet, she asks for help. She is a robot. She needed help. I'm wondering maybe if your robot needed help. It might have.
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Launch your app in five minutes. Too easy. Once again, fly.io. I'm curious about the possibilities of embedded systems. Jared, maybe your question regarding the chasm is, if I begin, how far is that dip, so to speak? How far is it from beginner to potentially professional? How big is this embedded world? Is it an underserved world? Is there a lot of opportunity? Is there one place to go to learn?
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Is it all in university or college? How do you get to be And if you do become a pro or someone who's professional, earning their money and career via this route, is it big? Is it expansive? Is it growing?
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Yeah. I'm sad about that.
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There you go.
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Programming non-computers, open source resources for Embedded, mentoring in the world of Embedded, self-driving cars, Embedded systems like GoPro, Traeger smokers, and even that musical birthday card you have. According to Alicia, Embedded is going everywhere. A massive thank you to our friends and our partners over at fly.io.
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Yeah. As an outsider who I'm not sure I would ever even venture into the world of what it would take to be on a team that creates autonomous cars. I'm just I'm a fan from afar. Let's just say of the idea.
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I like the idea, but I think it's. This is layman. This is from the outside. It seems perpetually flawed because it's not a closed system. There's so many flaws in the system that you can almost never predict. You can predict a lot of the various ones, but you can't predict...
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all of them ever, and because it's not a closed system that you control, then it seems like you're perpetually going to be flawed. No matter what, there's always going to be something that changes the game, potentially catastrophically, that you can't circumvent.
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that's a that is a catastrophe of course it's a tragedy when one person dies but when this fleet suddenly goes bad i mean the stakes are way higher right yeah i mean i can i've been that human jared that's coming up over a hill with the sun i mean i'm 16 and i can well not even at any age really i mean period as even a good driver i would say a marginally good driver i think i've had
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Uh, the most recent accident I had, which is like the one I didn't cause the deer hit me. And this was like a year ago. Some things can't be avoided. And this deer wasn't like random at nighttime when you would think a deer would be out. It was, uh, nine in the morning in town. Fuck. Like where other cars were at. It wasn't the time when deer should be running necessarily.
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He was looking for your car. Ran right into me. And then the other time was, geez, probably 20 years ago. And it was just wet. And I just didn't stop in time. Like I stopped, but my car, it's the size of the skid because, you know, that's what happens. Yeah.
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And sure, I could have been paying a little bit better attention, but I'm a pretty good driver is the point of the last 45 seconds. That's the point you're trying to get across? I'm a pretty decent driver. Right. But I've been in a scenario where the sun has completely overtaken my vision completely. I do recall in seconds beforehand what was in front of me. And so I went now from literal memory.
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Mm-hmm. with confidence of my next driving maneuvers straight. Right. And around the bend a little bit kind of, kind of because I was going from my memory before my site was taken away. And the case of the cameras, you know, the thing freaking out, I don't know what happened there.
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Maybe it was like a literal panic mode, but you know, like in my own body, I had a panic version, but I just didn't crash. There was no Adam BSD or BSOD. There was a, it was just a, you know, continued driving. It was safe. Yeah.
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Can we go back to my idea of this closed system? Is that even a possibility? To your point, Jared, can we create a closed system?
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Right. Some sort of guardrail, parameters, boundaries, something that says this is where you should be. And if you're not here, then you can no longer operate or something changes to no longer be the danger possibility, so to speak.
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Well, as we're knee deep in this conversation, I was just thinking, you know, one of the most Probably globally known, most people have bought one at least one point in their life or want one. An embeddable system is like a GoPro, for example. That dude who founded that company was just surfing. He was like, man, I would love to film this. And he went away and did his thing and now GoPro exists.
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And I'm just thinking like, wow, this must be a proving ground for not just innovation, but potential future founders. This seems like a good place to go and not so much get rich, but change the world in dramatic ways. I think GoPro has changed the world in dramatic ways. It's given you, let's just say, a camera view, obviously, of something dangerous. But then you have that GoPro effect.
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Like, oh, that doesn't look that steep until you get there. And you're like, that's pretty steep. You know, like that's this embeddable system world seems like if you want to go and invent something that this is a place to go and invent something because it's real. It's physical.
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Does this exist in the world? Can you do that? Can you go buy that product right now?
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Well, then you just invented something.
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What the other animal do?
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I see. So there's like a,
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Yeah. Maybe for, like, brothers, you know, they're in different rooms. Like, good night, brother, kind of thing. Not a walkie-talkie. It's more like, I'm betting mine, you're betting yours.
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Because it's a two-person system. Yeah, it's a peer-to-peer with two peers.
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Yeah. That's cool.
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I just like, I think I'm liking this idea more than what we're talking about. I mean, I've always liked this idea, but this idea of software paired with hardware that creates these newer experiences that isn't software only, like an iPhone or a computer screen or a browser software, which is like, maybe that's the kind of software I'm thinking of.
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But then I'm also thinking like, not just that GoPro, but I use, so if you didn't know this, Alicia, I'm a, I like to barbecue. And so I own a Trigger. A trigger is a smoker, but it's basically a computer. It's an embedded system, right? Somebody wrote software to have sensors that says, how many pellets should I push through to maintain this temperature? What temperature is it in the ambient?
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What temperature is it at the burner? This thing that I just push the button, turn the dial, set it to 275 and wait an hour or two, that's a computer, an embedded system that somebody invented. Because they were like, well, doing it with the old wood method was too cumbersome. It wasn't ubiquitous enough because too many people didn't want to tend a fire.
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And so now triggers exist as a smoker to give way more people access to push button oven light control of a barbecue system. Exactly. That's crazy. I never really thought about this trigger as this embedded system until this conversation. Obviously it is, but I never thought about the fact that I could have made that.
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If the things were more accessible. And I think that's a lot of this conversation, like how accessible is this technology to, to people, to, to lay folks like Jared and I, or we're seasoned in software development, but not in embedded systems necessarily. Yeah.
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What was their approach to ask you about having embedded? What does that mean? What's the backstory? Yeah.
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I know exactly how it works. I'll tell you. So there's a hopper. Yeah. Right. And in the hopper, you fill it up. It uses gravity to, as you know, drops the pellets. Yeah. As the pellets fall down, it falls into this space that there's an auger and the auger just turns. And so it slowly just moves the pellets along the system. And so, um,
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you fine tune the temperature within the firebox based on the speed of the auger. So if you slow down the auger, no pellets feed it. If you speed it up, it speeds it faster. And you probably have some, maybe an algorithm or machine learning of like, how the speed of the auger versus temperature control, and you're obviously maintaining temperature, but it's just literally a turning mechanism.
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It's not even smart aside from knowing speed and temperature and how speed affects temperature. And the hopper is just the pellets are falling based upon gravity. So gravity did the work there. Thank you. No pusher necessary. And there is a sensor inside the hopper that will tell me if it's low, but I'm smart enough to know how much I put in there. I know when it's low.
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And my cooks are never that long where I need to literally monitor my ever. I've never had to know if it's low. I think it's just a gimmick, really. In terms of time, on the timer, I mean, Trigger does have an iPhone app and an Android app that controls it, and you can set time and stuff like that, and you can tell it to turn off, but that's a rich person's feature. Not everybody needs that.
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You really just need the ability to maintain a temperature for a sustained amount of time. Any barbecue person will tell you all I'm teaching you is time and temperature. I'm not teaching you anything special about cooking food. Just time, how much time do you need, and at what temperature. So that's the recipe for cooking is like, you know, time and temperature.
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And so the trigger just basically does those two things is time and temperature.
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Uh, geez, let's see. Birthday cards.
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Say more. Yes. My family is a fan of singing birthday cards. And my son loves to take them apart later. I'll tell you a story. So my son is curious like this. Like he loves to take things apart and figure out how they work. And so he took apart a birthday card. We got him. And obviously you open it up and it starts to play the song or whatever it's supposed to do.
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Well, he decided to take it out of the back of the package, discover the sensor, and discover this thing and this mechanism, and he decided to pull the wires out and put them in different places. He made this birthday card do things it wasn't intended to do for us. It was just meant to be open, do the thing, and it's a closed system in that regard.
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But he found out you can pull the sensor out or whatever the mechanism is and rewire it, and he made it do something different. He's like, dad, look at this. I'm like, what is that? He's like, it was my birthday card. You know, that's kind of cool. Okay.
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Oh, my gosh. Nothing. Well, then. That's great. So I don't know his name. I'm going to Google real fast. Crunch Labs, the fellow that runs this, this is a very massive YouTube channel. But it's not a YouTuber, like a, I don't even know how to describe it.
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Oh, yeah. It's the coolest stuff ever. This guy used to work at NASA, and he is all in STEM and all kids-focused, but he has his subscription box that you can get to build different stuff. And as you're describing this – how do I pronounce this? Chibitronics, I'm thinking like, wow, here's more kids that entertain and educate these. Yeah, Mark Rober. Thank you, Jared.
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Yeah, everybody loves this guy. Yeah, I love Mark Rober. He's the coolest. I mean, he is – I don't even know how he does what he does. He's amazing. And it's like he's living his purpose for sure. But my son loves Crunch Labs, is so entertained by all this stuff, has become smarter because of Mark Rober.
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I mean, like educational, curiosity, STEM, embedded systems, I'm sure, electronics, Rube Goldberg things, et cetera. Like just all this cool stuff. So I thought you might know Crunch Labs. Yeah.
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How do I get the crossbow? That's great. And these kits, they come on this, like, frequently. So I was thinking, what made me think about Crunch Labs was the monetary accessibility of the chibitronics and, you know, And building these things that no one else seems to be doing to... I mean, at some point, you got to want more people in your field, right?
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You're probably lonely to some degree in your field. You want more folks who have the same drive and curiosity as you do. And the only way you get there is by inviting them in.
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So they also have Embedded.
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There's two Embedded podcasts out there.
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Love it. Where's this going? You know, like this kind of thing. Showing off is kind of cool, right? I'm looking at this one here on Instructables in the circus section because it lets you see things like crafting and cooking and living. So there's more than just simply this embedded world there. It's a sleep cycle lamp. And I'm seeing like this lamp with lights.
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a common shade, probably a similar, or sorry, a very small board beneath it that's powering this thing and probably basing it on time as doing different sleep cycles, colors, tones, et cetera. But I'm thinking like, man, where could this world go where you have infinitely accessible Lego-like things?
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Not so much Lego itself, but how you can take this part, pair it with that part, and make a product or create something new or invent something new. Like where... Where can this go? Where's the future going for this?
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No, no, no. More like, more like you, where do you think, I mean, given your knowledge of embedded systems and where you've seen it go, what's next for, I suppose, this world of them from the simple hobby project to underwater things with sensors looking at dirt moving around. You know what I mean? Like it's such a chasm, but like, where's, where's this going? It's a big question. I'm sure.
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Well, that's a sad dichotomy.
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Yeah. I would stop at one. I was interested in that first one. Yeah. It sounded cool to me. You know, what's interesting, I think, what I think embedded is, is this idea of creating, I would say more so in the last, I don't know, maybe since the pie, the raspberry pie came out, like this idea of like, I can do things myself. I can take this small thing,
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So embrace it, right? You know, you've lamented your fight against IoT, but just embrace it, basically.
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For instance. Yes. I take it your dishwasher requires you to use an application or something, Jared? No, that was just a for instance. I'm sure somebody's does. Yeah. Well, I have LG washer and dryers, and I can tell you when my washer is done and when my dryer is done. And I can tell it to start drying something right now if it's on. So that one safety, security and safety, maybe the similar S's.
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is that I can't control it from afar or remotely if it's not on currently. I can't power it on and power it off. I can only instruct it if it's been previously human-touched, like recently kind of thing.
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Apparently I did.
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So the one thing I would say about that that I've appreciated, because I try to be not the person who only complains. I try to be the person who appreciates pretty much any scenario. I do my best. I'm always the greatest at it. Is that it's a different interface to a simple interface that doesn't make any sense.
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that is just a single board computer and I can learn to program or I can add servos. I can add, I can 3d print now because those are more ubiquitous and I can start to make my own thing in the world. And the system I put on there is not necessarily connected to the internet or the rest of the world, but it might be through wifi or whatever. Is that, is that kind of what you mean by embedded?
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And so the iOS application actually makes a bit more sense to use its advanced features like... Uh, like the dry clean version, there's a dry clean setting on the dryer. For example, it hooks to the water and it can humidify the air kind of thing. It can do some cool stuff. That feature is not easily accessible in the, on the device itself.
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I mean, you can, it's just harder to like map your brain to like, okay, push button go. Whereas the iOS app is a bit more easier to use. I think of it like a different interface to this thing. The notification is, I turn that off in most cases. Like I actually don't have it on unless I'm washing clothes personally. And when I say that, I'm like, I don't usually wash our clothes.
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So I'm that person who gets to just sit back and enjoy life for the most part. You better not be complaining. Until I have no more underwear and then I'm like, oh my gosh, I have to wash my own clothes now. And you're checking the status at all times. That's right. Notifications on. Thank you.
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Yeah, so that's how I look at it. It's like, I wouldn't have paid for that feature. I think I did because I bought it, obviously. I didn't buy it because of that feature. And I'd say that it's a nice to have, not a need to have, but it is nice to actually have because I've used some of the advanced features via the iOS app.
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And it's just a different way to interface with the device that's actually better and easier.
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Adam is washing his clothes again. Get him.
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Yeah. Listen, hey, listen, you probably should wash your clothes. It's been about two months since your dryer's drying anything. Yeah. Clearly you're out of underwear at this point. I've checked your Walmart checklist for your underwear or wherever you buy your underwear. I don't buy my underwear from Walmart, but I just said that. TMI, dude. Just so you know.
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Like this kind of world where you have standalone devices that are not really tethered via wire to the network, so to speak, like how do you define embedded?
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Please don't? Is that right?
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Very cool. Any conferences or like IRL places? I know you mentioned several digital ones, which we've definitely collected and we'll put in the show notes. But is there anywhere that's like common? Like is there an embedded conf or something like that where it's, you know, international or accessible to folks? Like the one you can't miss kind of an event? Yeah, like you must go there.
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If you're really getting into it, you must go to this conference kind of thing.
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Embedded things.
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For sure. I know IRL is important to folks. We can obviously shell out lots of digital locations to hang, but IRL can't beat that, right? Real humans, real people, real fun.
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I think so.
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Maybe not. Maybe not. To each their own, as they say. I'm kind of an indoor cat. We'll have to get some sensors for that and maybe a motor to judge it.
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Yeah. You got my interest. Go.
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Yeah, for sure.
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Well, Lisa, thank you for your curiosity, too. I know that sometimes you're going alone, right? Sometimes you're just in the dark, but now you're not. Obviously, your book's solid with your business. You've written books. You've come on this podcast, and you're doing cool stuff. So thank you for sharing all that with us. Appreciate it.
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Well, thank you. Well, the world of embedded software is going everywhere. Treggers, GoPros, birthday cards, smart rocks. I mean, the possibilities seem to be literally endless. And so maybe this is for you. Maybe this is your new field. Maybe this is your invitation into the world of embedded. And on that note, there's a ton of links in the show notes. So make sure you go check those out.
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Wookiee, Crunch Labs.com. chibitronics so much to explore and i think you should do it so there's your push and if you haven't yet make sure you check out alicia's podcast embedded.fm i'm a listener and you should check it out of course a big thank you to our friends and our sponsors for this episode today augment code check them out augmentcode.com
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Have you been tempted to build any sort of systems for your pets or your animals to know where they're at or to warm them up in their beds kind of thing? Have you ever done anything like that, like personal projects for your... Not for the pets.
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I'm inspired by this. I mean, I feel like we should quit podcasting, Jordan. Just build some smart rocks, man.
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I'm still entertained by that desire from you. You wanted to put a sensor in your freezer. Remember that?
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And I think you ended up doing that. Did you end up doing that?
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No. I forgot about it.
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That's a good explanation of it. I was thinking a very simple one from my recent Christmas holiday. We got my oldest son some e-drums. So he has a drum kit. As you can imagine, an eight-year-old going on nine, banging on some drums is cool. But it's also, as a parent, not always the appropriate time to bang on drums. And we want to encourage the obvious curiosity that is drumming.
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However, we also think that e-kits are cool because they're less loud, and they're cool because they have this controller. It's not a computer, but it is a computing device because it has MIDI controllers and all these different sounds for drums. So you can choose the metal kit or the e-rock kit. So it's got all these different drum kits in there.
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It's taking the sensing input from the microphone on the e-drum into the controller, into your headphones or your amplifier or to your tracking device. And it's turning that into MIDI control sound.
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I didn't think about that being, you know, like, I guess I did, but you know, I didn't think about until this moment that that's kind of like not a computer, but also kind of a computer that somebody wrote software for. Exactly. And maybe, maybe I could even write my own software for it.
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If there was a way to, is that part of what you do is embedded is like you start to find ways to add to the non-computer computer.
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What's up, friends? Welcome back. This is The Change Log. Yes, we feature the hackers, the leaders, and those building embedded systems. Today, we're joined by Alicia White. She runs the awesome podcast Embedded.fm. She's also an embedded software developer. She joins us to discuss...
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For sure.
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It's just a matter of getting the AI to be a better assistant. And in particular, I want help on the thinking part, not necessarily the coding part. Can you speak to the thinking problem versus the coding problem and the potential false dichotomy there?
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That was really good. That was very good. Thank you very much. Now, Matt, now that Oasis is getting back together, are you going to join them?
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I was going to say, we always know which one wins in the end. That's a British thing.
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I totally agree that current security tools are super broken. There's really two ways that they're broken. The first, they send too many alerts. The second, they send not enough alerts. What I mean by that is they send too many alerts. They send false positives. They inflate the severity. They say that it's a critical security issue when it's actually a low security issue.
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They tell you about vulnerabilities and developer dependencies that are never going to run in production. There's all these reasons why they're just wasting your time with this noise. And on the other hand, they're not alerting you about things that actually matter.
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So if you look at like the news and you look at kind of the attacks that are affecting companies and that are affecting developers today, there are things like malicious dependencies, typosquat attacks, hijacked dependencies, risky dependencies that have like hidden behavior in them that will open up popups to random sites or steal certain data from your system.
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Things that you do see in the news quite frequently, right? And we see them literally, we see a hundred attacks per week at Socket that we're detecting right now. They're an NPM, PyPy, Maven, and the Go ecosystems, which are the four we support today.
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The current tools, they send you too many alerts, all this low importance stuff, but then they don't even alert you about all the attacks that actually matter. And so that's what we're doing at Socket. We're sending you the right alerts, the alerts that actually matter so you get, when you are alerted, you actually believe it. and you take it seriously because it's real, you know?
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That's what we're trying to do. And that's what I think we're doing really well. That's why we have over 6,000 organizations that have added Socket into their GitHub. It's a two-click installation. It's literally super easy. You go to the GitHub marketplace, you search Socket, you click install, and you click all repos. Boom, your entire company is protected. And it doesn't block developers.
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It doesn't prevent you from shipping code. Initially, it's all just kind of in a worn mode. So it's really easy to get started. No source code access. We don't read your source. We just need a list of dependencies that you're using. So it's a really light and easy installation. Very, very developer-friendly tool.
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Hey guys, you got any babies? To be clear, they're not real babies.
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Not real babies. Let's not keep acting like they are. Most of us already knew that, Jared.
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This guy's ripped. Quick, let's get it.
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Yeah, I think it's a discovery thing. I mean, invent and discover. He did say invent. Oh, okay.
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He's fine. Love it. Congratulations. I will concede that it's more plausible for the train to have broken the sound barrier than it would be to invent a new color. However, I thought I had some prior knowledge to the Shinkansen, which is the most famous bullet train. Oh. And I knew it's max speed because my son was such a fan of trains when he was, you know, growing up, like three, four, five.
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Still is a fan. But we actually like studied trains.
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high speed trains for a while they're just like just for fun you know yeah at like a four-year-old level not like a academic level and none of them had broken the sound barrier no none of them did and they were all like the 400 range so 700 and something is is quite faster than 400 obviously and like imagine a train like here's the thing with this speed train that you got to think about is like you have to consider so much further in the distance the dangers of
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that are there right if you've got passengers on these trains that's the whole point of them they're passenger trains and you go from here to there really really fast it's like the time to break or the time to stop is so much distance that you have to have like the proper real way to have this distance and stuff as i just thought it was like less likely i thought well you know find a color pick color plus you won't hear it coming you know that's right
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But you'll hear it a little bit later than it would arrive. Delayed, yeah. I was going to say delayed. They can't hear themselves. Could you hear yourself going too fast? If you're going faster than sound, could you hear yourself?
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Man, they're all terrible. They're all terrible.
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Two of those are true, by the way. Two of those are true. I'm thinking the last one's not true.
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Yeah. I don't know why.
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Adam looks doubly mad. I'm just angry about most things, you know.
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I'm bringing one close to home, really, that goes back to Matt's world in a way. I've got three headlines. Two that are true and then one that's false. That's interesting. Why have you done that? Just so you're aware. Which order should I read them in? Should I read the true ones first or the false one first?
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If you read the false one first, I'm sure to get it. This is the false one, just so you know. U.S. nuclear arsenal relied on 8-inch floppy disks until 2019. Oh. Number two, scientists used slime molds to help design Tokyo's rail system. Number three, Raspberry Pi is due to announce an SBC-style GPU to compete with NVIDIA.
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Totally free for you to try out for you and your team. Use the code CHANGELOG. Go to sentry.io. Again, sentry.io.
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Yes, scientists used slime molds to help design Tokyo's rail system.
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I won't tell you this, but I'll give you the details later. You're going to love this. I got more context.
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Okay. Cause you just said you have an article on it. No, I didn't say on that one. I was another one.
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I was thinking about something different. I was contextually somewhere else, you know? Okay. What was the first one again? Gosh, which, okay, yes. U.S., United States, U.S. nuclear arsenal. You know where the United States is too, right, Jared? Do you know where it's at? The U.S.? Okay. Matt, do you know where it's at? Yeah, but I thought you were just saying us because you're from there.
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Yeah, just us. Us, okay. Us nuclear arsenal relied on the United States.
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Here we go. Oh, it's like AI.
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Us, Nuclear Arsenal, relied on 8-inch floppy disks until 2019. 8-inch floppy disks. Those are the big ones.
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There we go. Oh, okay. For the viewing audience. Jason, displace this and we'll see. This is a visual audio audience only. I'm sorry.
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I'm screen sharing with our friends here, Jared and Matt, as you know, my friends, our friends. Hello. And on the left, you have the eight inch. In the middle, you have the five and a quarter, I believe, is it? Five and a quarter, yeah. I was saying it five inch. It's got the quarter in there. Yeah. And then the three and a half down at the very far right.
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And I think you're correct, Matt, saying that that one is more of a plastic hard. I think you said plastic card.
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What was your third one again? Raspberry Pi soon to announce SBC style GPU to compete with NVIDIA. Now what's an SBC style GPU? Single board computer. Okay. A single what computer? Yeah, you know, the SBC is like super cool because like you have this tiny little thing and it's a single board computer.
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I mean, I can speculate some if you'd like. I think what I would say is, like, it's probably going to pair up with, like, the Raspberry Pi type thing, because the Raspberry Pi doesn't, it has GPU in it, but it's, like, not super amazing, you know? It does some stuff. You can do a media center on it, but not, you probably can't transcode 4K very well, or at least multiple streams.
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So I think those things have become popular, and so my guess, if this is true, of course, is that this SBC-style GPU will pair up with a Pi to give you more GPU in this fanatic way of doing smaller computers, basically. Versus, let's just say, the most recent, the RTX 50 or whatever, like 5090 or whatever they just released. That thing is huge. It's got three fans in it. Like, who wants that?
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You want a GPU that's smaller, SBC style.
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I'm not trying to overly sell this or anything, but I'm just saying, you know, like, this could be a truth. Oh, yeah, it could be. Yeah, exactly.
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That's what you're choosing as the lie?
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The well, to go back to our our initiative here, we were told by our new friend here. Hello. Obscure tech headlines. These are clearly obscure tech headlines. And so I scoured the Internet.
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Well, it doesn't matter when it came. No, they did this until 2019. It doesn't mean that they the news is new.
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Okay, thank you.
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It's a mini song. Is there more? No, no, no.
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I like this. Are you a fan of Mario Kart? Oh, no, sorry, not Mario Kart. Mario Party. Yeah, yeah.
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Yeah, interstitials. You didn't say please, though.
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I'll save that for later.
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I actually want it. I want that to be true.
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And when you use our link, you are supporting our show because, hey, Notion loves us and I love Notion too. Notion.com slash changelog. Here's the thing. This is cool, right? This other truth one, the slime mold, okay? What is the slime mold deal?
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Okay, so they put bits of food to represent Tokyo's various population centers on a map, and then they let a slime mold, which is supposed to be smart, right? Like it's genius, basically, which naturally seeks the most effective paths between food sources grow. And so this thing determined the network that could be a very plausible, very efficient path. What?
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So they used slime molds to help design Tokyo's rail system. This is true.
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That's amazing. I think at a headline level, you'd think that they used the slime mold to mold the train track kind of thing.
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I understand that. And then obviously us nuclear artists will rely on floppy disks until 2019. This is a recent headline.
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And the details behind this is that the Air Force finally modernized systems that ran on ancient hardware around 2019, but not before plenty of raised eyebrows in the tech circles. Why?
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And then, you know, honestly, I just was like. I like Raspberry Pis. They're cool. NVIDIA and GPUs are all the rage. And I just heard a headline, basically, if you're a CPU maker, you're getting into GPU making. If you're a GPU maker, you're getting into CPU making. NVIDIA has CPUs coming out, and Intel has GPUs coming out. So they're flip-flopping, right?
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So what's the other thing out there that's maybe going to do this? Raspberry Pi. And an SBC-style GPU that attaches to these other smaller things would be totally cool.
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We should totally be doing this. Like, let's get rid of these aged floppy disks that we were thinking about. Yeah. And let's do these SBC-style GPUs.
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What's the N plus on the floppy disks do you think they had? N plus? Yeah, like how many in reserve do you think they had to have to ensure the US arsenal, the US nuclear arsenal was safe? Yeah. How many floppy disks?
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Let's get it. Let's get 100 behind this and plus 100, you know.
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yeah we got the one in the drive we're safe and we got 99 others sitting over there waiting just in case i wonder what's on the disc then like a code you think or like a gpc like a like a key like a gpg key or something like that gotta be isn't it not gonna be like source code for the missiles or something let's yeah let's speculate this system what could it actually do
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yeah if it ran on this hardware like is it running is the program is like a usb uh version of a of a software that runs on the usb but instead it runs on the floppy well you used to boot off of a floppy so maybe it's actually like the boots into memory right it boots into memory and then runs off the memory all right so this floppy gets put in the program is accessible it boots into memory boom goes the uh us arsenal yeah nuclear arsenal yeah probably that
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This is making me think of a museum. Is there a place in the world where there's like a technology museum that isn't somebody's random basement or somewhere? Absolutely. There is. There is.
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We haven't been to San Francisco together, I would say, in about eight years. It feels like. At least six.
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I didn't know I'd been to Mountain View. Was that when we were out to see user testing, maybe? Yeah, that might be right. My brain was a little scattered. We were doing something brand new with high stakes. What, weed?
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Higher always, as you know. He likes high stakes.
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Well, they weren't really full-on lies. They were more like directions that I didn't flesh out. So I was thinking... They're more like directions that I was fleshing out.
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I was thinking drones, like a Pico drone. Like make your own drone from a Pi. Like a Pico drone. Yeah. I want that. And then I was thinking like something solar because I was like, well, you know, these things are so small. You want them to be in obscure places. Yeah. Like what if I wanted a switch, like a WRT switch that's running open source stuff that's not like power accessible?
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I have a battery maybe or like a power pack. What if it was solar powered, you know? So I was thinking like something solar, that direction. Yeah. That's about it.
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Then I was thinking, well, GPU, that's in the headlines now. It's CES recent, so there you go.
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Well, if it's small though, like let's say if it's sub five watts, which is what it would probably be, like probably sub two watts. It's just a Switch and maybe Wi-Fi. How much service area do you need for that? Probably not much. I mean, the size of a Pi probably? Pie solar. Could you imagine this pie solar? Raspberry Pi, if you're not listening to this podcast for ideas. Should be.
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Yeah, you should be. Yeah, I mean, here we go.
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I mean, it might slice some people on the way. Well, there's some really small drones out there. So back, I want to say about six... About six or so years ago, maybe seven years ago, I got into like the early days of drones, right? They were expensive. They still kind of are expensive now. But there was these really small ones you could buy on Amazon. And they're like tiny, like little toy things.
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So I think that'd be kind of cool to build a drone from a pie. But you probably can do that already. You know? All you need is a case and a compute. And then I suppose servos and stuff like that to do the motors.
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Yeah. Yeah. One fan, go up, I see ya. What's next? Is this show just based on truths and lies? Is there more? Well, we finished, haven't we? Yeah, I won. Is this a show? Jared, you won that, didn't you?
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Yeah, if you win. What can we give as a prize? Well, I tell you what, Jared, you can master this episode. How about that? Oh. There you go. That's nice. That'd be fun. I can do that.
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We should reach out to Loopback, though, and Rogue Amoeba to see if they want to sponsor the show. They should. We should have an episode that's just white noise until the check clears.
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Yeah. This show brought to you by Rogue Amoeba.
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I'll tell you what.
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I do think it'd be kind of cool to augment whatever's being done. And, like, if you were speaking, now you're not Matt. Now you're Snoop Dogg, like you said.
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That'd actually be kind of funny.
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Good marketing because you could probably use it. You know, like an unintended consequence.
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How about this idea? Okay. Okay. We just add a flag to people's column. You know, like, I'm interviewing Matt. Matt is AI-assisted. Cool. Yeah. That's it. Right.
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So good. Where'd you get that? Well, this free trial of Rogamiba software called Loopback. Just go get it. It's free. That'd be cool. That's good marketing. More ideas for these people. Holy moly.
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Yeah. I'm actually quite cool with being AI-assisted. I'm not cool with just AI. If you're interviewing an AI, come on.
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That's the best circus in the world.
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So I'm at this, tell me if you know this URL. Okay. GitHub.com. I do. Yep.
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Slash. Oh, hold on. Strichter.
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Nearly. Does that ring a bell to you, Matt? Stretcher. Stretcher.
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What do you think is at stretcher.com, spelled this funny way, S-T-R-E-T-C-H-R.com? What do you think is there?
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Yeah, that's why I was confused. I was like, what do these folks have to do with Testify for Go? Because it's a stretching company. Like you go there and you get stretched. What's that? So I was thinking like, Matt, what is going on? with your software. What did you write this for to be stretched?
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Oh, you're describing what your idea was, not this stretching idea they've got.
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It is. That's how I found it. It's on the GitHub organization. I'm going to go and change that right now. I would definitely change that because that's confusing. I don't think anybody cares. I guess actually three times as many other folks who download or install any packages or whatever you call them in their Go programs and software care.
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But they're not on your org looking at what URL goes back to the source for Stretcher.
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you know, I would do this though. I would first email these folks at the new stretcher and I will let them know that you've been promoting their stuff for a few years now and that there's royalties to be paid.
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okay yeah yeah i'll let them know that first prior to do and take a screenshot and share that with them and then say i've since stopped but you owe me back pay maybe i could take that payment in stretches so they could just come and just yeah that's right i'm willing to i'm willing to barter i could i could use a stretch yeah a body stretch can i close the loop on piccadillos please do have you guys ever seen the movie goodwill hunting
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How would you spell that in your version of it, Jared?
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It's not very popular to say that, you know. Well, let me... If AI or the LLM, this chat, is the evolution of what we had, which compares well to Google, have you had an issue with people Googling things? No, you have not. It's actually expected.
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Now, did they get awards too, or what happened there? Did you even mention them? Who? Who? Mention who.
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I was hoping to, like, you know, put the footage up and stuff. That'd be nice. Well, we could make that. Let's do it right now.
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This is good. You could sing it. I would have improvised it anyway. Matt... Here is your award for being great in open source.
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Speaking of medals, Jared, were you referencing like I was Scary Movie 2? At which point? When you said take my strong hand.
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I still got my hand. He still has his. It's there.
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Take my strong hand.
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Yeah. People largely, I'm talking like a massive population, strongly, emphatically believe That he said, take my strong hand. Who? In the movie. I'd have to show you the clip. I don't know the person's name. But he actually said what? Take my little hand. Why the hell think he said strong then? Exactly. Mandela effect, bro. But why? I don't know why Mandela effect happens. It just does. Huh.
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Yeah, a lot of people believe. I mean, there's a lot of people who like... I believe it. I remember that. You just told us he said that like five minutes ago. I know, but he didn't. The truth is that he said, take my little hand. Huh? You take my little hand.
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This is interview process only though, right? You're thinking interview process only? Okay, so if we go past the interview, I'm totally cool with, I want to know what your potential is and what resources you can leverage. So I think of like two things, resourcefulness and resilience, right? Those are the double R's right there. That's the quintessential pair, let's just say. Oh.
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It's a lot of people. Yeah, it's a very popular, unpopular film. I mean, it's a scary movie, too.
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Why? So why does everybody else believe that?
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Mandela effect because it's kind of like what he should have said if George Lucas was a slightly better writer I love that compression though right like you don't have to explain anything besides Mandela effect that's just it that's right that's the the beauty of memes and compression
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Yeah. So to my knowledge, this is what I know about it. The Mandela effect came about because there was a large, again, a large population of people who emphatically believed that he had passed away years before he did not pass away. So he passed away much later, truthfully, but people believed he had died many, many years before that.
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And there's a lot of people and they're like, I remember seeing the headline, I remember seeing the news reports, et cetera, et cetera. Meanwhile, he did not. And so this birthed this, I suppose the name to the phenomenon that seems to have happened throughout history where you, a large population misremembers or has memory of an alternate dimension.
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oh right now if you go back to the oh right like that was just a totally normal thing to say what's the thing i'm trying to remember what uh the somebody else would be a scientist here would know what i'm talking about it's the there's a place over in your area matt in in the european region i suppose where they have like this yeah cern this collider yeah yeah tell me what's the call again
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The CERN Particle Accelerator. CERN Particle Accelerator. There you go. I like the way he says it. So they believe that when this began to happen, it started to create fractures in timelines and alternate realities. Now, I don't know how plausible this is, but it's crazy as all get out there, right? Like you're smashing particles together and you're rippling time and space and whatever.
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And Mandela Effect, there you go. They should have called it the Jimmy Carter Effect, you know, because I thought he was dead a long time ago. Me too. Yeah.
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That's why tomorrow I'm not celebrating. I'm saying, you know, like everybody's going to mourn. I'm like, listen, the guy had a good life. He died twice.
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Text him right now. Yeah. And then while you do that, sing.
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Right. And you have the refrigerator door open, and as soon as you close it, ah, jump scare.
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I knew what you did last summer. I knew it. I know what I knew. You saw Freddy.
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Oh, no. There's no memory. There's no memory.
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It's actually triple. Reading, writing, arithmetic. It's good, isn't it? Why is he not singing? We keep prompting him to sing, but he won't do it.
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Well, before the show, I'm here with Jasmine Cassis from Sentry. Jasmine, I know that session replay is one of those features that just once you use it, it becomes the way. How widely adopted is session replay for Sentry?
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Tell them now to stop listening a minute ago.
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We can edit that.
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Wait, did you see then, who was it? There was a comedian that told this story about this film. Did Matt just take his joke and act as if it was his own? No, no, no. But it reminds me of it because they said it was Nate Bregazzi. And we love him because he's a very tasteful comedian. He doesn't have to cuss or tell anything egregious at all.
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He said it was more plausible to the listening and watching audience that his wife didn't want to talk to him than him being dead. Yeah. That was a version of his punchline. It was more plausible that this woman was ignoring him for a year, the whole film basically, ignoring him completely, than for him to be dead.
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Great job, Matt. I actually think now that you've done that white noise, I think they stole that from you. Yeah, I think they ganked your white noise, bro. You should get some licenses from them. Yeah. Bye, friends.
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I'm going to close the loop too for you. Yeah. So Socrates, you were correct. Yes. It says the philosopher most famously known for being against writing things down is Socrates.
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I got it. Through his student Plato's writings, Socrates expressed concerns that writing weakens memory and can lead to a false appearance of knowledge rather than true understanding.
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And it goes on to say that he believed that writing was not an effective means of communicating knowledge. He was saying that from a place of privilege, though.
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Come on. Yeah, right. Some of us plebs have to write our own things down. It was about being face-to-face, it seems. As to him, face-to-face communication was the only way one person could transmit knowledge to another. It seems a little one-sided. Now, see, here's the thing, though, is that world was so much different. Oh, yeah.
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The amount of things you could know about was so finite compared to now. When did he live? I don't even know. Forever ago.
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I mean, come on. That's right.
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It changes it into something that sounds... I have to interrupt this amazing story due to not paying for software. Loopback has introduced some noise because we needed to use loopback to combine your piano and your microphone into a single one. Yeah, there's a loopback going on. And because you haven't paid for it, which I'm cool with, they are not. That's the problem.
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You can use it, but it will destroy your work.
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A few minutes later. There you go. We are now back from the noisiness of Loopback and Destructiveware. So you were saying, Matt, what were you saying?
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So I know one of the things that developers waste so much time on is reproducing some sort of user interface error or some sort of user flow error. And now there is session replay. To me, it really does seem like the killer feature for Sentry.
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My version of this is not the same.
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Planes have done it, not cars. 770 approximately. Yeah, I take that back. I don't think a car has ever done that. 1, 2, 3, 9 kilometers per hour. That's cool. Quite fast.
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Man, I'm still just thinking about these trains breaking the sound barrier.
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I think that's the lie one. You think the train one's a lie? Yeah, I think the train one's a lie.