Mike Lazaro in Podcasts

That's what we do on this show. We talk about what's real. That's what it is to be an entrepreneur, a business person, and today. So, you know, I went right to the source. Cass and Mike Lazaro, they are authors of Shoveling Shit. They're entrepreneurs. A few brands you've heard of. You know, we'll let them name drop. What's up, guys?

My guests today are Cass and Mike Lazaro, serial entrepreneurs, early investors in Liquid Death and Scopely, and authors of the brutally honest new book, Shoveling Shit, a love story about the entrepreneur's messy path to success. They have built and sold multiple companies, including Buddy Media, which they sold to Salesforce, for a whopping $745 million. They've worked alongside Gary Vaynerchuk.

every relationship we have and in a candid laugh out loud sometimes gut-wrenching conversation i sat down with cass and mike lazaro partners in business in life and in parenting their new book shoveling doesn't shy away from the mess it embraces it because real connection doesn't come from perfect conversations It comes from staying present in the hard ones.