Gretchen Carlson in Podcasts
personGretchen Carlson's lawsuit against Roger Ailes was a landmark case in the Me Too movement.
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I love your answer, Gretchen. Let's go back for a second to your media because you grew like in TV, like you climbed the ladder. There's obviously some areas where you needed to reinvent and leap, which is the theme that I look at Leap Academy, right? And there's some... also stages in your life.
where I was telling her these stories, and she said to me, Gretchen, you realize that that was sexual assault, right? And I said, nah, nah, nah, nah. She goes, Gretchen, that was sexual assault. And I myself hadn't called it that, even though I had come forward already a year prior with sexual harassment.
And by the way, those are watching us on YouTube. She is freaking gorgeous, which is kind of annoying, but no, you're amazing. And she's incredibly smart, gritty. Gretchen, first of all, you did have, and I think, again, we all do. I had my share of... whatever, 18, 20 year old in the Air Force was massive sexual harassment that I shut up about because I didn't feel like I should talk about.
And I was so upset about it. And I went up to her desk three times that day and I said, but Mrs. Barencott... I know how to read. And she kept saying, Gretchen, just go back and sit down and you'll be fine. And I ran home from school. I can still feel myself rushing in, yelling for my mom to say I was in the wrong group. And she called the school and the next day it was sorted out.
But maybe at this point, I will take you back in time because I think we need to understand this bold Gretchen that is able to do these things because I don't take it lightly. But let's go back in time. Gretchen, you grew up in a peaceful environment, right? You're already a high achiever. Talk to me a little bit about that.
I will need to prove myself. Why do I need to create trouble? At that point, you have kids, you have a husband, you have parents, you have friends. It takes a toll. And you knew that you're doing something that will definitely make it to the media, right? This is not some thing that will go away. Gretchen, talk to me for a second about the fear of going public.
Gretchen Carlson was one of the first really high publicity cases of the Me Too movement. She then decided to leverage her voice to fight for workers' rights in the workplace by co-founding the nonprofit organization Lift Our Voices. Gretchen, I am so, so, so excited to have you on the show today. I think it's going to be an epic conversation. So thank you. Thank you for having me.
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