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I’m a Sociopath: Patric Gagne’s Story

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Patrick, is the apathy, so is this feeling that you called apathy when you were little, but now you call tranquility or this feeling, is it a feeling? Is it an absence of feeling is my first question. And then the follow-up to that is this. One of the things we're always talking about on this pod is this quote that's like, the problem is the picture in your head of how it's supposed to be, okay?

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