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Trump's Justice Department, Disappearing DEI, Flu Peaks Again

Fri, 07 Feb 2025

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The Justice Department is moving to implement President Trump's agenda for the agency, some large companies in the US are deleting or softening DEI language from their investor disclosures and influenza is peaking twice this winter.Want more comprehensive analysis of the most important news of the day, plus a little fun? Subscribe to the Up First newsletter.Today's episode of Up First was edited by Anna Yukhananov, Rafael Nam, Scott Hensley, Janaya Williams, Alice Woelfle and Ben Adler. It was produced by Ziad Buchh, Nia Dumas and Christopher Thomas. We get engineering support from Patrick Murray, our technical director is Zac Coleman. And our Executive Producer is Kelley Dickens.Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoicesNPR Privacy Policy

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Chapter 1: Who is Pam Bondi and what changes is she making at the Justice Department?

3.407 - 14.037 Michelle Martin

Pam Bondi was sworn in this week as U.S. Attorney General. One of her early memos has workers at the Justice Department worried about the possibility of mass firings. Will those who investigated the president be singled out?

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14.318 - 26.089 A. Martinez

I'm Michelle Martin, that's A. Martinez, and this is Up First from NPR News. Under political pressure, some big companies have quietly ended their diversity, equity and inclusion programs.

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26.369 - 32.974 Unidentified Speaker (Brief Interjection)

We have seen companies start to decide that the reward is not necessarily outweighed by the risk anymore.

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33.554 - 43.001 Michelle Martin

Is this the end of corporate DEI? Plus, it is respiratory virus season and the flu is peaking for a second time. But there's better news on the horizon about COVID.

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43.201 - 47.184 Caitlin Rivers

This is the smallest winter wave we've had since the pandemic began.

47.464 - 49.586 Michelle Martin

Stay with us. We've got all the news you need to start your day.

55.376 - 75.323 Unidentified Speaker (Brief Interjection)

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76.098 - 96.045 Scott Simon

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97.085 - 102.268 Michelle Martin

This week, the Senate voted to confirm Pam Bondi as President Trump's new attorney general.

Chapter 2: What are the implications of companies removing DEI language from reports?

Chapter 3: How is the flu season impacting public health this winter?

43.201 - 47.184 Caitlin Rivers

This is the smallest winter wave we've had since the pandemic began.

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47.464 - 49.586 Michelle Martin

Stay with us. We've got all the news you need to start your day.

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55.376 - 75.323 Unidentified Speaker (Brief Interjection)

There's no place like the garden, and this season, Garden Variety wants to help you flourish. Each week, the Heartland's top horticulturists, insect experts, foresters, and others drop by with fresh tips about everything you want to grow or grow better. Dig in to Garden Variety from Iowa Public Radio, part of the NPR Network.

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76.098 - 96.045 Scott Simon

Should you throw out your black plastic cooking utensils? Can we decode whale language? And how do you stop procrastinating? I'm Maiken Scott. Every week, The Pulse digs into health and science issues that matter to you and your life. Listen to The Pulse podcast from WHYY, part of the NPR Network.

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97.085 - 102.268 Michelle Martin

This week, the Senate voted to confirm Pam Bondi as President Trump's new attorney general.

102.508 - 117.415 A. Martinez

Bondi takes over at the Justice Department as the Trump administration makes aggressive moves to take over the federal bureaucracy. Over the past few weeks, the new administration has already pushed out senior career officials at the department and at the FBI, setting off fears about mass firings.

118.055 - 130.063 Michelle Martin

NPR Justice Correspondent Ryan Lucas has been following this. Ryan, let's start with the new Attorney General Pam Bondi, sworn in this week in the Oval Office by Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas. So now that she's on the job, what has she done?

130.884 - 149.189 Ryan Lucas

Well, one of the first things that she did was sign a whole bunch of memos, more than a dozen of them, that aim to advance the president's agenda and the department's role in it. These things address a whole range of topics. Bondi revived the federal death penalty. She set up an October 7th task force to focus on the threat posed by Hamas.

149.71 - 170.138 Ryan Lucas

Other memos address immigration enforcement, the drug cartels. This sort of thing reflects the shift in priorities that we often see out of the Justice Department with the change in administration. Saying that, though, there's one memo in particular that really stood out, and it raises questions about whether the department under Bondi aims to go after the people who investigated Trump.

Chapter 4: Why are companies like Google changing their DEI practices?

442.846 - 447.448 Michelle Martin

Yeah, but not every company that's making these changes is a federal contractor. I mean, so what else is happening here?

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448.14 - 468.432 Maria Aspin

So Trump's executive orders are definitely adding to the pressure, but corporate America was already facing a lot of pressure from critics of DEI who say that it is itself discriminatory. The bigger picture here is just that big companies are pretty risk-averse. I talked about this with Becky Baker, who's an employment lawyer with Finson & Elkins.

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469.132 - 476.357 Maria Aspin

She says that DEI was a really popular buzzword in corporate America five years ago, but now it's kind of politically toxic.

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476.957 - 485.006 Unidentified Speaker (Brief Interjection)

We have seen companies start to decide that the reward in doing so is not necessarily outweighed by the risk anymore.

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485.867 - 491.013 Maria Aspin

So she's not surprised by the changes all of these companies are making, and she's expecting us to see a lot more.

Chapter 5: What is the reaction to Trump's executive orders on DEI programs?

491.033 - 493.056 Michelle Martin

So is this the end of DEI?

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494.264 - 511.729 Maria Aspin

Yes and no. There are still some companies that are standing by their promises to pursue diversity, equity, and inclusion, and they're still talking about it using those words. For example, Costco said in its most recent annual report that promoting DEI is part of taking care of its employees.

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512.589 - 525.013 Maria Aspin

And meanwhile, some of the people doing this work tell me that they hope that most companies are going to continue making their workplaces more inclusive for all employees. even if they're not using words and phrases like DEI.

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525.033 - 528.075 Michelle Martin

All right. That's MPR's Maria Aspin. Thanks a lot, Maria.

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528.555 - 528.955 Maria Aspin

Thank you.

537.139 - 543.522 Michelle Martin

Lots of people are feeling pretty crummy these days as the winter stew of respiratory viruses simmers.

543.973 - 549.138 A. Martinez

But there are a couple of unusual trends driving all the coughing, sneezing and fevers this year.

549.158 - 555.003 Michelle Martin

NPR health correspondent Rob Stein joins us now to explain. So, Rob, what's happening out there with all these viruses?

556.184 - 569.976 Rob Stein

Well, this is kind of a good news, bad news story. Let's start with the good news. This winter's COVID surge looks like the mildest since the virus first emerged. Here's Caitlin Rivers. She's an epidemiologist at Johns Hopkins.

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