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S. Korea President, Texas Abortion Lawsuit, Coffee Prices

Sat, 14 Dec 2024

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South Korea's parliament impeached President Yoon Suk Yeol for his attempt to impose martial law on the democracy. Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton sued a New York doctor for prescribing abortion medication to a Dallas-area woman. A drought in Brazil has caused the price of coffee on the futures market to reach a 47-year high.Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoicesNPR Privacy Policy

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2.978 - 5.34 Scott Simon

South Korea's president has been impeached.

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5.88 - 11.965 Ayesha Roscoe

Earlier this month, he tried to impose martial law as he struggled against his political opponents in the government.

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12.185 - 12.985 Scott Simon

I'm Scott Simon.

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13.346 - 24.594 Ayesha Roscoe

And I'm Ayesha Roscoe, and this is Up First from NPR News. Thousands of protesters outside the parliament building cheered when the measure was passed.

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27.955 - 33.62 Scott Simon

The impeachment has significant implications for U.S. foreign policy. We'll have more on that story.

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34 - 39.645 Ayesha Roscoe

Plus, Texas sues a New York doctor for prescribing abortion medication to a Dallas woman.

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40.085 - 43.508 Scott Simon

And coffee prices soar after a bad drought hits Brazil.

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44.009 - 46.791 Ayesha Roscoe

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130.362 - 139.35 Scott Simon

South Korean President Yoon Sung-yeol declared martial law 11 days ago, only to reverse his order hours later in the face of public outrage.

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139.73 - 145.615 Ayesha Roscoe

The political crisis threatened to pull an established democracy back to its days of military rule.

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146.036 - 149.999 Scott Simon

And Bears Anthony Kuhn joined us now from Seoul. Anthony, thanks for being with us.

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150.519 - 151.26 Anthony Kuhn

My pleasure, Scott.

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151.46 - 157.946 Scott Simon

Parliament has tried to impeach Yoon just a week ago. How did the vote go this time? Why was it different?

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158.783 - 169.357 Anthony Kuhn

Well, this time, all lawmakers in South Korea's parliament called the National Assembly voted. The vote ended up 204 to 85. Here's what it sounded like when the vote was announced in the main chamber.

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Go! 204 votes!

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174.464 - 191.885 Anthony Kuhn

Of course, there's a lot of celebrating in the streets as well. Now, Yoon's original rationale for martial law was that opposition politicians who were sympathetic or in league with North Korea were paralyzing the government. But he never really stood that charge up. It never really resonated beyond his base of conservative supporters.

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192.385 - 208.959 Anthony Kuhn

And it became clear that there was no war or breakdown of public order or anything that legally justified martial law. And as his ministers and generals were arrested or questioned, it became clear that Yoon and not his subordinates was the one who was orchestrating martial law.

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210 - 212.502 Scott Simon

Anthony, how does South Korea choose a new president now?

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213.612 - 233.314 Anthony Kuhn

Well, Yoon's official duties have already been suspended, and South Korea's Prime Minister Han Dok-soo will stand in as acting president. Next, South Korea's Constitutional Court will have 180 days to reject or uphold the impeachment. If they uphold it, Yoon will be officially removed from office, and a new election for president will have to be held within 60 days.

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234.861 - 238.804 Scott Simon

Has South Korea's democracy passed a stress test? Is there lasting damage?

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239.384 - 261.419 Anthony Kuhn

It seems that way. One thing that happened was that Yoon tried to hand power over to his ruling party. He said, I'm not going to manage things. They will. But experts said that's an unconstitutional arrangement. So for a while, people were not really sure who was leading South Korea. And so many top generals were suspended from their duties. There was also concern about military vulnerability.

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261.479 - 282.014 Anthony Kuhn

The country technically remains at war with North Korea. I think South Korea's public image has taken somewhat of a beating. This is a country that, with the U.S., co-hosted a summit for democracy, and yet here was its leader trying to use the military to roll back people's civil rights. And, you know, a lot of people are celebrating right now, people who wanted Yoon impeached.

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282.074 - 288.819 Anthony Kuhn

But I think the sense you get from living here is that this has been a very stressful, even traumatic 11 days for South Koreans.

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289.386 - 295.368 Scott Simon

And how does it affect the U.S.-South Korean relationship and shared policy goals?

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296.269 - 316.436 Anthony Kuhn

Well, publicly, at least, the U.S. said it was relieved that Yoon's declaration of martial law was lifted. But I think privately, Biden administration officials have got to be absolutely exasperated that Yoon shot himself in the foot because Yoon was instrumental in forging a three-way coalition of the U.S., Japan, and South Korea to help deter North Korea from

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316.696 - 335.582 Anthony Kuhn

support Ukraine, enforce export controls on China, all these policy goals. Then again, think about this. Yoon is likely to be replaced by a liberal North Korea-friendly administration. And if the Trump administration and North Korean leader Kim Jong-un want to do the diplomatic dance again, South Korea could help broker some diplomacy.

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336.262 - 338.923 Scott Simon

NPR's Anthony Kuhn, thanks so much for being with us.

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339.783 - 340.443 Anthony Kuhn

Thank you, Scott.

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349.995 - 359.918 Ayesha Roscoe

Since Roe v. Wade was overturned two years ago, out-of-state doctors have been prescribing abortion medication to patients in states with strict abortion laws.

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360.298 - 377.223 Scott Simon

A new lawsuit by Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton challenges that practice, as well as the SHIELD laws that blue states pass to protect their doctors. NPR's Alyssa Nadworny covers reproductive rights and joins us now. Thanks for being with us. Good morning. What does the lawsuit say?

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378.314 - 397.309 Alyssa Nadworny

So the lawsuit accuses a New York doctor of violating Texas law by providing the two drugs used in an abortion to a pregnant patient living in the state. And the suit says this 20-year-old woman who received the pills ended up in a hospital with complications. There aren't any criminal charges involved. It's a civil suit.

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397.729 - 420.822 Alyssa Nadworny

But it seeks up to $250,000 and aims to stop the doctor from continuing to provide abortion medications to patients in Texas. In a statement, Ken Paxton, the Texas AG, said, quote, in Texas, we treasure the health and lives of the mothers and babies. And this is why out-of-state doctors may not illegally and dangerously prescribe abortion-inducing drugs to Texas residents.

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421.802 - 427.124 Scott Simon

The patient in question received pills under a shield law. Tell us more about that shield law.

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428.001 - 442.834 Alyssa Nadworny

So at least eight Democrat-controlled states have enacted these shield laws, like the one in New York. They give abortion providers some protection from criminal prosecution, civil claims, extradition, things like that. But the laws have yet to be tested, so...

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443.715 - 457.502 Alyssa Nadworny

This case essentially pits a state with a near total abortion ban against a state with laws that not just protect abortion rights, but specifically protect doctors in the state from prescribing pills to people in other states through telehealth.

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458.103 - 469.389 Alyssa Nadworny

So Texas is essentially trying to test what the state of New York is going to do with respect to defending the actions of this doctor who was providing legal care in the state of New York.

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469.989 - 472.03 Scott Simon

And Alyssa, what is New York's position?

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472.452 - 489.016 Alyssa Nadworny

Well, the New York Attorney General released a statement saying that New York will, quote, protect our providers from unjust attempts to punish them for doing their job. The governor of New York, Kathy Hochul, who signed the state's shield law, said in a statement she will do everything in her power to enforce the laws of New York State.

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490.016 - 498.918 Alyssa Nadworny

David Cohen, a law professor at Drexel University who helped craft that New York law, talked to me yesterday. Here's his take on the legal wrangling between the states.

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499.284 - 513.111 David Cohen

The courts of Texas are going to try and force the doctor in New York to participate in the lawsuit. And they don't have jurisdiction over her. So they have to get the New York courts to try and cooperate. And the New York courts are not going to cooperate.

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513.471 - 518.073 Alyssa Nadworny

And yet, despite that, anti-abortion groups are already celebrating the legal challenge.

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518.554 - 520.875 Scott Simon

And Alyssa, what do we know about the doctor in this case?

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521.536 - 538.253 Alyssa Nadworny

So the New York doctor is one of the founders of an organization called Abortion Coalition for Telemedicine. They help pass shield laws and offer support for providers doing telehealth abortions. In a statement, they said that the Texas Attorney General was, quote, "...prioritizing his anti-abortion agenda over the health and well-being of women."

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538.914 - 554.588 Alyssa Nadworny

Now, Scott, it's worth noting that telehealth has made it much easier for people to access abortion medication. Like even after the Supreme Court stopped decision, which struck down Roe v. Wade, the number of abortions in the U.S. has gone up about a fifth or now via telehealth.

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554.728 - 562.675 Alyssa Nadworny

And then you break that down further, medication sent by shield law providers now accounts for as many as 12,000 prescriptions a month.

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563.775 - 568.831 Scott Simon

And how could this case potentially affect women in getting access to abortion medications?

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569.721 - 587.809 Alyssa Nadworny

Well, you know, long-term worry for abortion rights supporters is that this case ends up in federal court and it has the possibility of making it harder for women in states with bans to get abortion pills by mail. But for now, nothing changes. I talked to Angel Foster about this. She runs the Massachusetts Medication Abortion Access Project. They call it the MAP, to be more discreet.

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588.23 - 596.173 Alyssa Nadworny

They operate under Massachusetts shield law. They have four OBGYNs that prescribe abortion medication to people no matter which state they live in.

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596.193 - 604.589 Angel Foster

We knew it was coming. Obviously, it's disappointing, and it's a little scary, and it's not unexpected.

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605.089 - 620.112 Alyssa Nadworny

She says the only impact to her organization is that they're going to talk to their lawyers more. Just yesterday, they mailed about 150 pills to people all across the country. The largest number went to Texas. And they predict they'll end up sending about 3,000 pills to people, mainly in states with bans, this month alone.

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620.652 - 622.493 Scott Simon

And, Piers, Alyssa Nedworny, thanks so much.

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622.953 - 623.213 Alyssa Nadworny

You bet.

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633.004 - 638.909 Ayesha Roscoe

Did you know coffee is the second most popular beverage in the U.S. after water?

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639.689 - 645.114 Scott Simon

To some of us, the only form of water I drink is in coffee, as a matter of fact, Aisha.

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646.435 - 674.749 Ayesha Roscoe

And for me, I just drink a lot of Coca-Cola. But I am thinking of all the millions of coffee drinkers out there because this week coffee prices on the futures market hit their highest level in nearly half a century. We invited NPR's Alina Selyuk here to explain what's going on. Welcome to the podcast. Hello, hello. Can you guess what I brought? Did you bring some coffee to keep you going?

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676.94 - 677.641 Alina Selyukh

Brought my latte.

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680.203 - 684.967 Ayesha Roscoe

Okay, you brought your latte. What is happening with coffee prices?

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685.228 - 705.463 Alina Selyukh

Yes, coffee prices have soared. And it all started with problems with harvests, first in Vietnam and then in Brazil. These are the two top growers of the most common types of coffee beans. And the culprit was abnormal weather, which many in the industry attribute to climate change. I talked to some longtime importers of green coffee, that's raw beans.

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705.703 - 726.154 Alina Selyukh

One of them is John Cassette from Royal Coffee in California. And he says, first you had Vietnam with a serious drought, followed by heavier rains than usual. And that drove up prices for the bean that grows there. And already had people scrambling to switch to the bean that grows in Brazil. And then Brazil had one of the worst droughts on record. Here's Cassette.

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726.474 - 738.08 John Cassette

Once they start harvesting the coffee, it's kind of nice to have dry weather when you're harvesting. But as soon as it's done, you want it to start raining, you know, get the soil moisture up and initiate flowering. And it just didn't happen. It really freaked people out.

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738.38 - 760.057 Alina Selyukh

Eventually it did rain, but farmers later said a lot of the damage was irreversible. And so the price of the most common coffee, that's called Arabica, jumped 70 percent this year. The price of the other type of coffee called Robusta at one point doubled in price. Both cost more than they ever did. Arabica and Robusta. How different are these?

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760.497 - 781.026 Alina Selyukh

Yeah, so they have different flavor based on where they grow. What I have here in my cup is Arabica. It is the most common. Brazil is the biggest grower. And this coffee grows at higher altitudes. It has a softer, sweeter taste. And that's what you find often in your roast coffee, your ground coffee. Robusta grows at lower elevation. Vietnam is the biggest grower.

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781.166 - 785.528 Alina Selyukh

And this bean has a harsher, more bitter taste. It's used a lot for instant coffee.

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786.188 - 796.073 Ayesha Roscoe

OK, I think my mom drinks something like that. But back to the prices. Was it just the irreversible damage to harvest that drove up the cost?

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796.413 - 814.303 Alina Selyukh

You know, coffee markets are complicated, like all commodities. Many of the traders actually need the physical coffee, the bags of beans. But many traders are just financial speculators. They're trying to game the price change, you know, buy cheaper, sell higher. And everyone bets on how much they think beans will cost in the future.

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814.383 - 836.821 Alina Selyukh

And so when people think those beans won't grow or there won't be enough, those who need those beans scramble, speculators go nuts, and it all only spirals the price further, which is what's happened. And it doesn't help that this week one of the world's biggest coffee traders made a forecast that Arabica—coffee like I have here— could see supply decline by nearly a quarter in the next cycle.

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837.261 - 852.051 Ayesha Roscoe

OK, so now we've been talking about record prices on the futures market, but I don't buy coffee at the futures market, right? You buy it at the grocery store or at Starbucks. So how is this going to translate?

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852.911 - 871.47 Alina Selyukh

So I'm sorry to say those prices have already been rising. If you shop at the supermarket, brands like Nescafe, Maxwell House, Folgers, Dunkin', they've all had waves of price increases. They've cited higher cost of the green raw coffee. At your local coffee shop, it really depends. Depends on how they source their products.

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871.55 - 894.285 Alina Selyukh

But yes, likely they're feeling the pressure to raise prices and they're just trying to assess how to do that without scaring away shoppers. But fact of the matter is, as a world, we are drinking more and more and more coffee. So demand has not waned so far. People so far have been willing to pay those higher prices for their coffee habit. The markets will probably eventually calm down.

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894.485 - 906.475 Alina Selyukh

Importers I talked to pointed out historically adjusted for inflation. We've actually been paying pretty low prices for a pound of coffee. So maybe it's the days of cheap coffee that are over.

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906.915 - 918.144 Ayesha Roscoe

That's probably bad news for coffee drinkers, but we got to give it to you straight. No cream and sugar here. That's NPR's Alina Selyuk. Thank you so much. Thank you.

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923.314 - 928.077 Scott Simon

And that's it first for Saturday, December 14th, 2024. I'm Scott Simon.

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928.477 - 929.697 Ayesha Roscoe

And I'm Aisha Roscoe.

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930.158 - 935.3 Scott Simon

Our producer is Martin Patience, with help from Danny Hensel, Andrew Craig, Chris Thomas, and Gabe O'Connor.

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935.661 - 937.461 Ayesha Roscoe

Our director is Michael Radcliffe.

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937.662 - 941.884 Scott Simon

Our editors are Catherine Laidlaw, Emily Kopp, Shannon Rhodes, and Matthew Sherman.

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942.432 - 950.956 Ayesha Roscoe

Jay Ciz is our technical director with engineering support from Zach Coleman, David Greenberg, and author Holiday Laurent.

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951.296 - 956.558 Scott Simon

Evie Stone is our senior supervising editor. Sarah Lucy Oliver is our executive producer.

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956.939 - 961.981 Ayesha Roscoe

And Jim Cain is our deputy managing editor. He also did a lot of editing this week.

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962.481 - 967.444 Scott Simon

Really? I wondered what he was doing. Tomorrow on the Sunday Story from Up First.

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967.904 - 981.397 Ayesha Roscoe

The celebrated African-American poet Nikki Giovanni passed away this week at the age of 81. We remember her and her work. with a conversation between her and NPR host Rachel Martin earlier this year.

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