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3301.527 - 3324.685 Imran Khan

So that's why I think it's a mistake to underestimate Evan. How did the 200 million Alibaba investment come to be? So Joe was a big fan of Alibaba from day one. Of Snap. So Snap, sorry. A big fan of Snap from day one. And when Evan offered me the job, you know, I went to Joe for his advice that, hey, should I take that job? He said, absolutely, you should take that job. Evan is a great founder.