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It's an official program by a government that has a certain size, rather than, I mentioned the Eurofighter electronic warfare upgrade, that was officially awarded, companies pitched for it, and eventually consortia pitched for it, and eventually consortia won it, which is SAP and us in the end. Those happen regularly, and they tend to be quite large. They run over several years.