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We work very closely with them. They're shareholders in Helsing as well, really close friends. Others, I think it can fluctuate. I don't mean this in jest. I think we all genuinely need to work together. I think we all have bigger fish to fry. And defense primes will always have a role. We don't think that they will disappear. In fact, actually, I think they will grow if we do things right.