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1857.448 - 1887.435 Shervin Pishevar

So what went wrong was we had the wrong venture capitalists on the board. And that was unfortunately, in my opinion, I was Bill Gurley at Benchmark. And, you know, I haven't told many of these stories. I've kind of waited until we found out exactly all the things that happened. But basically, Gurley was pressuring Travis and Uber to go public as soon as possible, pushing for that incessantly.