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The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch

20VC: Kleiner Perkins' Mamoon Hamid on Investing Lessons from Leading Rounds in Figma, Slack and Rippling | Lessons Building a Generational Defining Firm with Kleiner Perkins | AI: Where Value Accrues, Startups vs Incumbents & Scaling Laws

2067.648 - 2083.842 Harry Stebbings

You mentioned Envision, you mentioned Sketch. Envision was bigger than Sketch for quite a while, actually. Both Sketch and Envision were way bigger than Figma for a while. And a lot of investors were like, this market's competitive. Do you like competitive markets and say, yes, it's competitive because that's where there's enterprise value?

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