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20Product: How to Design and Build Products in a World of Agents | Why AI Will Kill Many SaaS Products | What Products Will Thrive and Die in a World of 100M Developers with Matt Biilmann, Co-Founder and CEO @ Netlify
Fri, 14 Mar 2025
Matt Biilmann is the Co-Founder and CEO @ Netlify. Under his leadership, Netlify has become one of the fastest-growing platforms for modern web development. Matt recently introduced agent experience (AX), a new way of thinking about how software is built and experienced in the AI era. Matt is also known for coining Jamstack, a concept that redefined how developers build for the web. In Today’s Episode We Discuss: 03:43 How Does the Design Process Change When Designing For Agents 06:27 How Does the Product Building Process Change When Building for Agents 12:52 Will AI Kill SaaS Tools 16:12 If Prototyping Becomes Phase 1: Does Figma Survive? 17:35 Is Chat the Best Interface for a World of AI 21:52 Why AI Services Will Be One of the Biggest Economies 27:24 Open vs. Closed Platforms in an Agent-First World 31:09 Specialization of Large Language Models 35:13 Shifting Labor Costs to Agent Spend 36:28 The Future of Stripe and What Happens with 100M Developers in the World 38:39 Quickfire Round: Insights and Predictions
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