522. Warlords of the West: A Clash of Ice and Fire (Part 3)

1459.329 - 1477.201 Dominic Sandbrook

Can I just stop you right there? So a lot of listeners may find that really interesting because that obviously undermines the idea that this is a sort of titanic clash of civilizations and that people are consciously engaged in a clash of civilizations. Because here you have an alliance between Christian and, in inverted commas, Muslim and a marriage alliance along with that.