The Ramsey Show
Your Debt Should Make You Uncomfortable
Rachel Cruze
Yeah, but so he's more on that first scenario, you would say. He's all for it. Okay. Okay, so Katie, I want to encourage you that this is all good, right? I know you feel overwhelmed, and we're going to walk you through a very clear plan right now. So the first thing I want you to do is you guys together tonight – You can open a bottle of wine if you need, like, just a good sip of something.
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