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'Elbows Up!': Canada MP Charlie Angus Torches Trump Over Threats
Mon, 03 Mar 2025
MeidasTouch host Ben Meiselas interviews Canadian MP Charlie Angus who directs a powerful message to Trump and his regime. Visit MeidasPlus.com for more exclusive MeidasTouch content. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Chapter 1: What are the Canadian reactions to Trump's tariff threats?
I'm joined by Canadian Member of Parliament Charlie Angus. Since we last spoke, Donald Trump says these tariffs are going to happen. Charlie, they're supposed to happen on Tuesday, although now you've got people in the Trump administration saying, well, it's possible that if Canada does this or that, what's going on? What's the vibe in Canada right now, Mr. Angus?
I think right now, after the horrific abuse that Donald Trump and J.D. Vance subjected a genuine war hero, President Zelensky, to in the White House while having some troll from the Russian media there to watch it. Canadians are really sickened in their stomach. I mean, we've been ready for a fight.
We've been knowing that this guy's going to come and try and push us around and we've been getting ready for it. But we saw that. We saw that at the same time that Pete Navarro, the crackpot economic guru that Donald Trump's been listening to, saying that they were going to redraw our borders. That's an act of war.
So suddenly this fight that we're seeing in Canada is feeling very different right now. And it's feeling like we are going to a different place. And it's really made Canadians much more determined. So the Trump. But tariffs. Yeah, maybe they're coming. Maybe they're not. Maybe he's shouting. You know, this whole thing we've been told he needs to look like he's got a victory.
He's got to win something. It's like it's like those relatives that you have who are like gambling addicts who like basically sold the house and they come back and they want a thousand bucks and they said they won something. Trump is crazy. is selling America's reputation. He's selling their relations. He's selling out thousands of jobs with this economic uncertainty.
And Canadians are just hunkering down. Bring it on, Donald. Whatever you're going to do, you're going to do. We're going to do what we're going to do. And it ain't going to be pretty.
Charlie, paint the picture. If these tariffs were to be implemented, what are you hearing on the ground in terms of factories closing, businesses shutting down? What kind of economic devastation do you anticipate would be inflicted on America? I mean, I know that Canada is prepared, has been preparing. This is part of the national discourse there because of the threats.
In America, I don't think people are taking it as seriously. So what do you think will happen?
Well, this is a really important point because It's going to hurt us. I mean, we're an integrated market. America's number one export market is Canada. And Canada's number one export market is the United States. It makes sense. We're trading nations. So we understand that we're going to be hurt.
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Chapter 2: How do Trump's actions affect the US-Canada economic relationship?
But once you poke us like that, there's a point where go look at the history of when Canadians fight, Canadians win. There was this moment on SNL with Mike Myers where he was wearing the Canada is not for sale shirt. But then he also gave a gesture that Canadians understood what it means to
pointing to his elbow and whispering, elbows up, which I know our Canadian audience saw, and it may have been lost on the American audience. Tell us about that rallying call and what you're hearing in Canada.
Well, Ben, since so many of my working class voters up in Northern Ontario watch you speak, They expect that you understand what elbows up means. So we are just going to go that you guys totally get elbows up. Elbows up refers to Gordie Howe from Floral, Saskatchewan, who's leader of the production line of the Detroit Red Wings. Gordie was the sweetest guy on the planet. But when Gordie...
did Elbows Up, it meant people got black eyes and people lost teeth. So last night, or Saturday night, when Mike Myers is on Saturday Night Live, and he's like, everybody loves him in Canada. There's so many great Canadian actors and comedians and artists who are in the United States. And to us, we get it that they're going to the big leagues, but we always consider them hometown boys.
So when Mike Miles' Elbows Up, that message to Canadians was, don't be polite. Don't hope for the best. You do what you have to do and do it the way Gordy would do it, which means people are going to get black eyes. People are going to lose teeth. And so for the doofus leaders like JD Vance and Pete Navarro and the Trump gang, they're going to be in for a real shock.
Mike sent the message and that's message. I've been hearing it all day. Elbows up, elbows up, elbows up. I've been talking to like capitalist businessmen, uh, who travel the world who tell me never going back, never spending a dime, elbows up. So Mike sent a message on SNL last night.
It was the secret code, but the code has been well received and everybody in Canada feeling really good about Mike Myers right now.
Finally, I want you to send a message right now. You know that the Trump administration and their team are watching this show. They're probably watching it more now, given a lot of the coverage that you've seen out there, that this show is beating the Joe Rogan show. We're also the number one podcast in Canada and America right now. So a lot of people are listening and watching this.
So what is your message to Donald Trump, Charlie Angus?
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