For months, questions have been swirling about the economy. And last week, we finally got some answers when all kinds of economic data was released. Some of those numbers seemed to say that the economy is headed toward a downward slump, but WSJ’s Jeanne Whalen explains that the picture may not be as dark as it seems at first glance. Jessica Mendoza hosts. Further Listening: -Trump 2.0: Where Is The Economy Headed? -A Tariff Loophole Just Closed. What That Means for Online Shopping Sign up for WSJ’s free What’s News newsletter . Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Chapter 1: What are the recent economic changes in the U.S.?
New data coming out just as we come on the air shows that the U.S. economy shrank for the first time in three years. GDP down 0.3 percent.
Contraction. We haven't seen that since 2022.
Last week, a lot of economic data came out, and the headlines seemed to highlight a bunch of declining numbers.
Chapter 2: Is the U.S. economy heading towards a recession?
The fact that we have a decrease in growth, that is never good. How people feel about the future of the economy and their finances, lowest level since 2011. Wall Street is now looking at this and thinking, are we heading for that recession that many...
Chapter 3: Why does Jeanne Whalen see the economy differently?
But our colleague Jean Whalen, who covers the economy, sees those numbers a little differently.
Despite all of these shocks happening to the economy with tariffs, with Doge and the government cuts, the underlying economy has remained fairly strong.
And if you had to summarize what's happening with the U.S. economy right now in one word, what would that word be?
I have two words.
Two words is good. Holding steady. Holding steady. Why? Why is that?
There were a couple of data reports last week that showed that the economy is holding in and is more stable than many thought.
Welcome to The Journal, our show about money, business, and power. I'm Jessica Mendoza. It's Tuesday, May 6th. Coming up on the show, what exactly is going on with the U.S. economy?
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Chapter 4: How does GDP reflect the health of the U.S. economy?
So the GDP, that means gross domestic product. And what that is simply is that's the value of everything that we produce in the United States. The value of all goods that we produce, like apples and sneakers and furniture. And it's the value of all services that we produce here. Haircuts, manicures, legal advice.
GDP also includes things like consumer spending and exports. At its most basic level, the GDP reflects the health of the economy. So let's talk about that GDP report. We got the latest GDP report last week. What did this say about the economy?
So the GDP report actually on its face looked not great. It showed that the economy shrank by 0.3 percent in the first quarter. Actually, though, the shrinkage was a little bit of an accounting trick.
Jean says that to understand that shrinkage, we need to look at how the GDP is calculated when it comes to imports.
What GDP is, it's the value of everything we produce in the country, goods and services. It's apples and sneakers and haircuts and manicures. So we look at how much consumers spend, we look at how much businesses spend, and we look at how much the government spends on goods and services. And then we also add in to that total everything that foreigners spend on stuff that we export.
And then we get that big number. And from that big number, we subtract. all of the stuff that we import into the country. And so that's how we calculate the value of everything that the U.S. is producing each quarter. So when imports really surge, when they go up a lot, we're subtracting a lot, a big number from that total number. And
We, this past quarter, imported way more than we normally would because of this fear about tariffs. So after Trump won the election last fall, a lot of companies started immediately bringing in a lot more goods because he had talked during the campaign about tariffs. He was going to start using more tariffs.
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Chapter 5: Why did the U.S. see a surge in imports recently?
Right. That was a big story for a while. People just like stockpiling stuff as much as they could. Exactly.
We had a huge surge in imports because a lot of businesses were trying to import a lot of stuff before the tariffs hit.
And so does that mean that the data kind of looks worse than it actually is?
I think that that is how economists would interpret this past quarter.
In other words, if you take away the bump in panic buying imports, the GDP right now would likely look different. So it sounds like the GDP in this moment is heavily reflecting imports, which has to do with tariffs. How much of what we're seeing now is because of Trump's policies?
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Chapter 6: How do Trump's policies influence the current economy?
So some of what we're seeing right now reflects Trump's actions and some of it doesn't. So the GDP report, for example, covers January, February, March. Trump took office at the end of January. So part of the GDP report was during Biden's term, obviously. And it takes time for a president's actions to make a mark on the economy.
Thank you.
and in what's on our store shelves. So we're not really seeing that yet.
So would it be fair to call it a transition economy, like a Biden-Trump transition economy at the moment?
I think that's right. Yeah, sure. I mean, you know, if we're going to say this is Trump's GDP report, we'd want to look at a quarter when he was in office for all three months, right? But yes, I think it's fair to look at this as a transition period.
President Trump has said that any economic slowdown is worth the sacrifice, that it would be short-term pain for long-term gain. The two other key metrics that everyone is looking for at this time period are inflation and jobs. The most up-to-date inflation data comes out next week, but we do know what's going on with unemployment.
There had been a lot of bracing for a bad job report this time around because I think economists thought, well, we've had several weeks, more than a month of some of these tariffs now, and some businesses might be really cutting back a lot on hiring. But in fact, we saw that there were more jobs added last month than many economists thought.
And overall, businesses have also so far been pretty reluctant to cut workers. They're not hiring at the same furious pace that they were several years ago after the pandemic, but they're not really laying people off. partly because we've had this labor shortage because they're worried about being able to find people again if they need them in the future.
And so the overall picture looks actually still pretty good.
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