The Joe Rogan Experience
#2259 - Thomas Campbell
Thomas Campbell
Asleep but wide awake. You know, asleep and awake at the same time. So your body goes to sleep, but your mind remains awake. And you are no longer co-located with your body. You're somewhere else. So that's the state. Whatever you is. Whatever you is, right. Now, he coined the word out of body. Before that, it was called astral projection and a couple of other terms.
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