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The Joe Rogan Experience

#2257 - Bryan Callen

9617.176 - 9638.133 Joe Rogan

I think you pay psychologically no matter what. 100% when you're not telling the truth. Right. And the people that don't, those are the people that are the most delusional and the most disconnected because they put blinders on as to who they are and what they've done. I mean, you see this when people get caught for horrible crimes. Yes. Like Bernie Madoff type people.

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