#2245 - Rod Blagojevich

709.585 - 728.475 Rod Blagojevich

To some extent, that's part of it, of course. But there's other dynamics that also it's just a little bit easier to kind of test the mood of the other person if you have a third party who both people like or respect. In this particular case, it was a labor boss. by the name of Tom Balanoff, he came up to me election night in November 2008. That was the election you voted for Obama.